Locked Stifle

[Fitzmm1]

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Hello,
We've found out that a 2 year old filly that we have just purchased has a 
locked stifle. Our vet has recommended that we increase her exercise and  hope 
that she will outgrow the problem. Does anyone have experience with this or 
have 
any suggestions?
Thanks

Re: biological kidnapping

[Pat Holland]

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  I'm starting to wonder if it's a
> plot of Pat's to keep Ole longer.  :-)

Oh shoot  - she found me out. I purposively gave Patti Viral Meningitis just
so I can keep Ole.

I guess this is a warning to any of you, if you send me a horse and I start
to talk highly of him/her - do not eat the chocolates I send you.
.(sounds like a Stephen King book.)

RE: collapsable carts?

[Karen McCarthy]

This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Bellcrowns come in a few models that you can disassemble. Good for CDE's
and more x country type of driving. Wheels, shafts and body all come
apart.

I saw 2 Stolzfus (Mill Run)  road carts last weekend at a Traditional Day
of Driving show in Calif. that have removable and adjustable wooden
shafts. Very pretty. Nice for pleasure showing/driving.

Hope this helps!

Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, 
Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees 



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Fjords in QH country

[Lisa Sherrodd]

This message is from: Lisa Sherrodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I wanted to share a funny thing that happened to me
yesterday. I live in heavy quarter horse country, and
when I decided to not have arabs any more I was
heavily pushed into getting a QH. Imagine the suprise
of my neighbors when I came home with the Fjords!!

Anyway, I have started ground driving Fancy in harness
and have been having a ball. She is so smart and so
good! She is giving to the bit nicely, executes great
turns and can even back up in the harness. I haven't
worked with a young horse in harness for about 10
years so we are taking it slow. I don't own a cart
anymore, but hope to sometime down the road.

Anyway I finished working with Fancy and was standing
in the pasture with her when my old crusty rancher
neighbor came over. After giving me a hard time about
the mane style, he then told me that he didn't think
she was very "cowy". I busted out laughing and told
him that was a good thing as I didn't see any cows in
my pasture!

I also wanted to know if anyone knew of a source for
tack in scandinavian colors? That is something I would
like to investigate.

Thanks,
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Engar offspring

[Janne]

This message is from: "Janne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Since we have had a great discussion about types like Engar and Ole, I thought
I'd post an Engar offspring for sale.

MF Solum, a brown dun colt was born July 9th, 2004, which happened to be our
10th anniversary, hence the name Solum, named after the church in Telemark,
Norway,  where we got married.  Ohhh, sooo sentimental!!

Anyway, Solum is by Engar and out of Renate.  Both pedigrees can be seen at
www.nfhr.com pedigree search.  He is a superb mover and full of pride and
play.  And he is of the type of fjord that Bauers bred proudfully!!  Foals are
exposed to all things here on the Myrdal farm from kids, cattle, dogs to
combines and traffic.  He will be weaned late fall, early winter.  email
privately for photos and more info.

Thanks.

Janne in finally sunny ND.

RE: introducing horses

[Gail Russell]

This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

We usually do our first "turn-out-together" session at meal times.  With
separate piles of hay in a fairly large place, with no open stalls or
paddocks in which one horse can become trapped.  Most of the time they
eat first and ask questions later! 

RE: boarding stables in Phoenix, Arizona

[Gail Russell]

This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have forwarded this to my accountant.  She is an Arab show world
person, but may have some ideas.  I did board a horse in Queen Creek
(pretty far outside town) once, but am not sure it is still open.  Not
really a barnmore like a backyard thing.  Will let you know if I
hear back from her about it.

Gail

RE: collapsable carts?

[jerrell friz]

This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

e  Does anyone know of a cart that comes apart 
---
Try Pacific, Bill Schull, makes a good one. 
Hope this helps,
Jerry Friz, Ca.

boarding stables in Phoenix, Arizona

[Debby Stai]

This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My daughter who has just relocated to the Phoenix, Arizona area, is having a
hard time finding a boarding facility to accomodate our fjord, without having
to spend 500. a month.  Anyone know of a great facility?  She'd mostly looked
at dressage barns but is open to a barn that is well kept and the horses well
taken care of.  Thanks for your help.
Debby

Re: Engar/Fjord body width

[Warren Stockwell]

This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I was surprised to hear that any Fjord could be ridden in a medium tree
> saddle
>
>
> Hi Amy:
>
> I think the thing here is that there are SO many different saddle makers
out
> there, and so many different types of saddles and trees, that what might
be
> considered a "medium" width tree for one manufacturer, might be a wide, or
extra
> wide for another. Individual perception is another part of the equation -
> what I may refer to as a medium tree, might be what you'd call a wide
tree.


This is a really good point!! I had a experience buying a " wide" tree AP
saddle and I gotta tell ya when I got it home and measured it was more
narrow than my Full QH western! and it by no means fit anything on my farm.
The thing that really bugged me was that the seller wouldn't take it back
and said that all manufactures label their saddles different. After doing
some research into English saddles I found this to be true. So you really
need to know your saddle makers before you go buying. I admit I don't know
much about English gear so my lack of knowledge got me ( I guess) what I
deserved. Now that my daughter and horse have chosen to go hunt seat I guess
I better brush up.

By the way are Kimber wick bits legal in shows? Here I am lost again : (( I
guess I will be starting over I AM TO OLD FOR THIS!!

Roberta

RE: NFHR Evaluations etc.

[Linda Lottie]

This message is from: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"The breed tends to attract many new owners
who have no, or very little equine experience.

Of course, people must begin somewhere, and I hope breeders and sellers
take the time to educate a new owner with information, books, lessons,
etc..   I see the "no experience" issue being a possible problem when a
new owner, new to horses, gets into "breeding" without knowledge of the
breed history, experience in diciplines, etc. ..  not to
mention the often talked about "ground manners" and general handling of
fjords.  

When I bought my first fjord I was so fortunate..the owners wanted to
help me as much as I needed.  Then, a wonderful fjord owner offered to
teach me to drive.   Today I feel confident and safe driving my good ole'
boy...

JMHO   Linda in MN

>From: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To:
fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >To: "fjordlist"
 >Subject: NFHR Evaluations etc. >Date:
Wed, 1 Sep 2004 07:29:48 -0700 > >This message is from: "Ursula & Brian
Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >  Dear list from Brian Jensen;
> Thankyou Beth for your overview of what we as trainees
went >through on behalf of the Fjord Horse to become Evaluators.
>  As part of the original committee that wrote the
program >some 12 years ago I can remember wanting 3 Evaluators at each
Evaluation >much like the Europeans in European FHI countries. It was,
and still is not >financially feasible here in North America because of
distance and time >constraints. The Program itself is not like the
European Programs. Firstly >it is voluntary as not all American members
want or believe in Evaluations. >Secondly, the owner/breeders of Fjords
in North America have a shorter time >window with the Fjord experience.
The breed tends to attract many new owners >who have no, or very little
equine experience. >   The Performance part of the Evaluation
addresses that by >providing steps in Riding/Driving/Draft whereby owners
can come at a basic >level---have a try---go home and practice more for
the next >level. For those of you who were around with Fjords 12-15 years
ago there >has been a tremendous improvement in all the disciplines of
Performance over >that period of time. >   The other portion
of the Evaluation Program is the Education >component called
Pre-Evaluation Clinics held around the country each year >usually before
the summer season. At these clinics the presenters use >handouts,
overheads, videos, and real Fjords to watch and Evaluate. The >Education
provided by the Evaluators at the venue in talking about the >individual
Fjords and providing feedback on the scoresheets is an invaluable >tool
in improving your breeding program or your Performance. >  I
think someone on the list mentioned the possibility of >Evaluators having
barn blindness. If that were the case the person should >not be an
Evaluator. However, at times there are some owner/breeders who >have not
looked at their stock from an objective critical eye point of view. >They
have been very upset with the scores received. I think the Evaluators >to
date have handled these situations in an ethical-fair and respectful
>manner. The Evaluation Committee has been working on a Draft of Ethics
for >NFHR Evaluators to update and improve the original Evaluator Ethics
>guidelines. Its my opinion on seeing this draft that it is possibly the
>tightest and most stringent set of ethics  ever compiled.
>  Having these Digest discussions in an open/honest and
>respectful way is one more way of addressing the concerns/false
>assumptions/fears that members may have. I do believe the NFHR BOD, and
the >Evaluation Committee are open to questions or new ideas about this
program. >The Program will always be a Work In Progress so I see it only
getting >better over the coming years. >Brian Jensen >Ursula & Brian
Jensen >Trinity Fjords >Box 1032 >Lumby BC, V0E 2G0 >Canada 250-547-6303
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/



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tree less saddles

[janet]

This message is from: "janet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

For those riding fjords in treeless saddles how do they compare to
saddles with a tree when it comes to mounting?  I would think that without a
tree the saddle would slip easier.  experiences?

Janet

collapsable carts?

[Linda Lottie]

This message is from: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Listers; Question?  Does anyone know of a cart that comes apart in
such a way to allow it to fit into a trailer? I have a problemmy
first horse trailer had a tack area that could be disassembled so I could
get my cart inside the back of the trailer.  I just realized my new
trailer back tack area is permanent - oh boy...can't get the cart
inside.   So, either I get a different trailer or find a cart that
reduces in width so I can fit it into the trailer.  Help Linda in MN
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Re: Engar/Fjord body width

[FjordAmy]

This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 8/31/2004 11:51:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was surprised to hear that any Fjord could be ridden in a medium tree 
saddle 


Hi Amy:

I think the thing here is that there are SO many different saddle makers out 
there, and so many different types of saddles and trees, that what might be 
considered a "medium" width tree for one manufacturer, might be a wide, or 
extra 
wide for another. Individual perception is another part of the equation - 
what I may refer to as a medium tree, might be what you'd call a wide tree.

When I bought my Keiffer saddle, I ordered what was then their "medium" tree. 
It was the size recommended for Warmbloods or QHs. It fits my Fjords 
wonderfully, just as it did my QH & Paints. My western saddle was custom made 
by my 
dad on a tree with what is called "Modified QH bars" for my Paint stallion. 
This 
tree is not quite as wide as the old "Full QH Bars" saddles, but is wider 
than a standard off-the-rack factory saddle. This also fits our Fjords 
wonderfully. But, we do try to keep our Fjords from getting too over weight as 
well. If 
they were 200 lbs overweight, the saddles might not fit so well. ???

Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: introducing horses

[Don Brackett]

This message is from: Don Brackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Valerie,

It does happen, some horses are just more aggressive than others and 
when two meet they seem to need to fight it out to establish pecking 
order.  Usually after one or two boxing sessions peace rules.  Scary to 
see though and sometimes one will get hurt.  
We got two new horses this past March and kept them separate (adjoining 
pastures so that they could meet over a fence) for a month before 
turning them into a large pasture with the two Fjords.  Our Fjord 
Gelding (who'd always been boss) and one of the new guys took one look 
at each other and turned back to back and just pounded away.   Horrible. 
Lots of bruises and some small cuts, but after that day they are 
peaceful and happy together.  Our Fjord mare and other new gelding are 
more followers than leaders.  Just sniffed at each other and went on to 
the most important job, eating!

Good luck, hope all works out for your herd.

Jane,
Maine where it's gorgeous, sunny and warm.







The next
thing I know there is a huge kicking match. Willow is way overmatched as
she is small and the new one good sized and drafty. Wham Wham! Willow was
getting nailed by some mighty serious 2 fisted kicks. 

NFHR Evaluations etc.

[Ursula & Brian Jensen]

This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 Dear list from Brian Jensen;
Thankyou Beth for your overview of what we as trainees went
through on behalf of the Fjord Horse to become Evaluators.
 As part of the original committee that wrote the program
some 12 years ago I can remember wanting 3 Evaluators at each Evaluation
much like the Europeans in European FHI countries. It was, and still is not
financially feasible here in North America because of distance and time
constraints. The Program itself is not like the European Programs. Firstly
it is voluntary as not all American members want or believe in Evaluations.
Secondly, the owner/breeders of Fjords in North America have a shorter time
window with the Fjord experience. The breed tends to attract many new owners
who have no, or very little equine experience.
  The Performance part of the Evaluation addresses that by
providing steps in Riding/Driving/Draft whereby owners can come at a basic
level---have a try---go home and practice more for the next
level. For those of you who were around with Fjords 12-15 years ago there
has been a tremendous improvement in all the disciplines of Performance over
that period of time.
  The other portion of the Evaluation Program is the Education
component called Pre-Evaluation Clinics held around the country each year
usually before the summer season. At these clinics the presenters use
handouts, overheads, videos, and real Fjords to watch and Evaluate. The
Education provided by the Evaluators at the venue in talking about the
individual Fjords and providing feedback on the scoresheets is an invaluable
tool in improving your breeding program or your Performance.
 I think someone on the list mentioned the possibility of
Evaluators having barn blindness. If that were the case the person should
not be an Evaluator. However, at times there are some owner/breeders who
have not looked at their stock from an objective critical eye point of view.
They have been very upset with the scores received. I think the Evaluators
to date have handled these situations in an ethical-fair and respectful
manner. The Evaluation Committee has been working on a Draft of Ethics for
NFHR Evaluators to update and improve the original Evaluator Ethics
guidelines. Its my opinion on seeing this draft that it is possibly the
tightest and most stringent set of ethics  ever compiled.
 Having these Digest discussions in an open/honest and
respectful way is one more way of addressing the concerns/false
assumptions/fears that members may have. I do believe the NFHR BOD, and the
Evaluation Committee are open to questions or new ideas about this program.
The Program will always be a Work In Progress so I see it only getting
better over the coming years.
Brian Jensen
Ursula & Brian Jensen
Trinity Fjords
Box 1032
Lumby BC, V0E 2G0
Canada 250-547-6303
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/

Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #203

[Carol J. Makosky]

This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Rhonda Taylor wrote:


This message is from: Rhonda Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just for Fun - Vandalized Barn  (R.Taylor, Straw Hat Stables)

Watch out for the "too smart for their own good" Fjords. . Winnie lifted the new gate off its hinges, and let herself and Tigger into the barn.  Where they proceded to have a good time - 
 

That is way too funny now, but am sure it was not when you discovered 
it.  I'm just glad they did not get into the grain or anything harmful.  
I've been there done that also.  Lucky for me, when she lifted the gate, 
it sort of just leaned still in place and she did not get out.  Needless 
to say the gate pegs were turned so it cannot just lift off anymore.  On 
a humorous note.  My pigs are now out with Heidi and they follow her 
around like the Pied Piper.  They also love to pick up her hay when she 
is trying to eat and shake and toss it all around.  Lucky for me she 
does not haul off and give them a good kick, but just tolerates it all.  
I would not want to explain a hoof print on a ham to one of our 
customers.  The pigs also run up to her and greet her with a special 
grunt and they touch noses.


--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin

Re: wormers

[CrystalZak]

This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 8/31/04 11:24:33 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Answering Laurie's question.   there sure is,  Called" Herbal Tonic", by
> Dynamite , you can go to  www.dynamiteonline.com  look in horse products..
> I use  it every two months on my dogs, cats, horses.  I have a 22 year old
> Aussie[  yup!  22,],, hard to believe.   Never been vaccinated.
>
>   There are only a few wormers that will kill the tapeworm.  One is
> Equimax,  I use this one when I have to,,I too,, try not to use a product
> with ivermectin in it.  I do NOT use any product by FORT DODGE !!!
>
thanks, jerry. i have to agree on the fort dodge statement. and your dog's
lifespan is awesome. i am not big on vaccinating either (please, don't flame
me).i will check into the products you suggested.

laurie
central minnesota

Re: wormers

[CrystalZak]

This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 8/31/04 11:24:33 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> When his worm load is under control
> that is the time to switch to herbal wormers.  The herbals do a better
> job of discouraging worms as opposed to eradicating them. 
>

thanks, tamara. that seems to make more sense than just filling him up on
chemicals all the time

laurie
central minnesota

RE: Illness

[Linda Lottie]

This message is from: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

{Patti}, hugs & snuzzles to you!    Linda," Lena",
"Hasse", "Sven" in MN [IMAGE]

>From: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To:
fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >To: "fjord horse"
 >Subject: Illness >Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004
04:59:42 -0500 > >This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Anyone interested, I finally found out what is
wrong with me, viral >menningitist.  Don't panic,it's NOT BACTERIAL
menningitist, but viral.  Viral >usually is not deadly, serious but not
deadly.  Not a fun thing to have.  This >is day 7, the doctor said it
last for 5-7 days, although the internet said >7-10 days.  I REALLY want
the doctor to be right! > >This body has not laid around this much since
I was a baby!!! I HATE IT!!! > >So anyways, I hope I can be around the
living soon!  I have noticed my "good >times" are getting longer between
fever attacks.  The headaches are there most >always. > >Oh, nice words
Ruthie thanks! > >Patti Jo Walter >Francis Creek Fjords >Two Rivers WI



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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #203

[Linda Lottie]

This message is from: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

How funny...but not to come home to:)   I have come out in the
morning to feed and discovered much the same.  If Lena and Sven get into
the alley...the hay is disturbed only.  If Hasse get into the
alley..OMG!  He is one busy guy!!  

Good story:)  Linda in MN

>From: Rhonda Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To:
fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >Subject:
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #203 >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:56:23 -0700
(PDT) > >This message is from: Rhonda Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
>Just for Fun - Vandalized Barn  (R.Taylor, Straw Hat Stables) > >Watch
out for the "too smart for their own good" Fjords. While I was at work on
Saturday, the girls were in the pasture (I thought). The new pasture
fence allows them access to the rear entrance of the barn, where their
stalls are. (The feed room is in the middle, the hay at the far end).
Winnie lifted the new gate off its hinges, and let herself and Tigger
into the barn.  Where they proceded to have a good time - from the looks
of the barn when I got home.  They dumped their water buckets in the
aisle, tried to spring open the latch on the tack room (bent it, but
didn't open), opened the interior gate to the hay storage, pushed over
the stack of bales of new clover hay - took a bite or 2 out of each bale,
dumped the manure cart, took the water hose off the rack and tumbled it
into a heap - then pooped on it, and slurped on each of the white lead
ropes hanging neatly on the rack - so all my white cotton lead ropes are
now GREEN. Luckily, there was no paint anywhere, so they ! >  didn't
>  graffiti the place. >Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
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La Crosse Evaluation Mare class

[Norsk Wood Works]

This message is from: "Norsk Wood Works" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This message is from Phillip Odden

The official NFHR evaluation held near La Crosse Wisconsin is finished and the
official results will be published along with a picture of the animal in the
new record book which will be available late this year. Sharon Makurat and
Wayne Hipsley were the evaluators. I believe there were 30 horses there.

The first group of 16 mares three years of age and older was interesting. Each
animal was evaluated individually by the two judges. The process seemed to
take 15 to 20 minutes for each horse. After each mare was evaluated and the
scores were tabulated all the mares returned to the ring and were circled for
all to see once again. Wayne brought each mare into the center of the ring and
spoke in general terms about the horse pointing out interesting aspects of the
animal's conformation and movement at the walk or trot. The owner was then
awarded the appropriate ribbon and given a copy of the each evaluators score
sheets complete with official written comments and scores.

At one point in the presentation Wayne had three animals in the ring spaced
head to tail. The first was a very large fjord in every way. Her name was
Gamla. Yet she was balanced and was very "typie". She was presented in a fit
condition. Her muscles were toned from use. This horse was unmistakably the
old type, or draft type. She received a strong blue ribbon and certainly
deserved it. This horse had the nicest longest hip I have ever seen on a fjord
and a very nice neck to balance the body. Her head was big but in good
proportion to her body. And she had the kindest, large, dark eye.

  Of the other two mares standing with the large mare one was of medium build
and the other was a lighter built mare. Wayne pointed out that all three had
similar top lines and proportions. They all looked as a fjord should look or
in other words they were good examples of fjord type, though each horse
represented a different segment of fjord body size.

Wayne also gave us a lesson in movement. Pat Holland was showing a light built
fjord that walked very free with long over-steps. Another horse was also asked
to walk out, this fjord with a different body style. It too walked with free
movement but not quite as free as the horse Pat was showing in conformation.

When the performance tests started I was thrilled to see Gamle was entered in
riding, driving and draft tests. The horse and owner did an outstanding job.
It was easy to see that Gamla was trainable and could move well. I am not
certain of exactly which ribbons she won at the introductory and advanced
levels. I know she had both blue and red. The results will be in the record
book.

In the performance tests there were the big bodied horses as well as the
lighter styles. I could see no difference in body style equating to
trainability. Some of the heavy horses were not willing to do the tests and
some of the medium horses were not willing and some of the lighter horses were
not willing. There were drafty horses such as Gamla that did well, there were
medium style horses that did well and there were lighter horses that did
well.

I just wanted to say a little more about the Gamla horse because she was so
special. Gamla is Rokida's Gamla bred by Ron and Kit Davis. Ron recently
passed away. There are quite a few of the Rokida horses in my neck of the
woods. Ron and Kit were interested in the draft style fjord and had a very
sucessful breeding program. Gamla is an outstanding example of a quiet
tempered, willing, draft style fjord. She was rewarded high scores at the
evaluation because she deserved them. Gamla is a Norwegian word that means
'Old'.

One more thing about Gamla. Gamla was a rescue horse rescued and shown now by
Karen Klearman.  Her rescue price was next to nothing. With her official NFHR
conformation and performance scores she is worth a whole lot of money.

Illness

[Dave and Patti Walter]

This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Anyone interested, I finally found out what is wrong with me, viral
menningitist.  Don't panic,it's NOT BACTERIAL menningitist, but viral.  Viral
usually is not deadly, serious but not deadly.  Not a fun thing to have.  This
is day 7, the doctor said it last for 5-7 days, although the internet said
7-10 days.  I REALLY want the doctor to be right!

This body has not laid around this much since I was a baby!!! I HATE IT!!!

So anyways, I hope I can be around the living soon!  I have noticed my "good
times" are getting longer between fever attacks.  The headaches are there most
always.

Oh, nice words Ruthie thanks!

Patti Jo Walter
Francis Creek Fjords
Two Rivers WI

Re: my visit to oregon

[shawna smith]

This message is from: "shawna smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Bonnie,
 It was great to meet you and glad you liked the  babies.  I, too, am
thinking the colt will be brown, but will hold off on registering him a little
longer.I'm glad you were able to ride at Silver Falls, it is an awesome
place. I've ridden there quite a bit, as well as camping, with and without the
horses.  Shawna
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  From: Bonnie Lieremann
  To: Fjord digest
  Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:43 PM
  Subject: my visit to oregon


  This message is from: "Bonnie Lieremann"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  Hello!

  I am back from Molalla Oregon and am finally getting all the digests read.
  I meant to mention my visit to Shawna's on this list but she beat me to it.
  Thank you Shawna for your time in showing us your horses.  My 12 year old
  niece has never met my Fjords so I am glad she got to see them.  We loved
your
  two babies!  I think both of them are really nice.  The filly is refined
and
  the colt is bigger boned but both are put together nice.  I would love to
see
  pictures of them in another year or so.  Oh yeah Shawna - I gave it some
  thought and decided the colt will be a brown dun.  Let me know how he turns
  out.
  Oregon is so beautiful - you people are so lucky.  My sister and I went on
a
  trail ride to Silver Creek Falls and it was so beautiful!!  Just amazing
trees

  bonnie in WI -

Re: wormer suggestions

[jerrell friz]

This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi All,
After my last posting about the tape worm cd. It occurred to me that it
might be on line, yup!  I, [not being a computer whiz] was able to get it
in about five minutes on by dial-up, it might be even more up to date than
the year old cd. So, if you want to do your horse a big favor,  take a
look at the Pfizer web, you will have to work your way through it...ohh,  I
don't work for Pfizer, only mentioning it for your equine, what ever it
might be
Regards,
Jerry Friz,  Ca..

Re: wormer suggestions

[Tamara Rousso]

This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You are right Jerry -  I don't know a thing about tape worms.  Good 
thing you put your two cents in.  I was speaking of the other 
varieties.  Thanks for clarifying.


tamara

On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 04:31 PM, jerrell friz wrote:


This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Tamara wrote

  First get his stools

tested to find out what kind of worm load you are up against.

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Hey Tamara,  better check with your vet.  testing for tapeworms  using
stool samples, don't think so,  blood test only.

If you take the time to view the cd-rom that I previously 
mentioned,, I

believe you might have another opinion.

Regards,
Jerry Friz,
Anderson, Ca.