Fjord in Costco Magazine

2006-07-02 Thread fjords
This message is from: fjords [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just received my Costco magazine today and on the inside back page is a
picture of a Fjord at the Little Bit Therapeutic Riding Center in
Woodinville, WA!  How exciting!

In checking their web site they have 3 Fjords among their therapeutic
horses.

http://www.littlebit.org/

Taffy Mercer
In 103* Kennewick, WA where it's to be 105* tomorrow!


Re[2]: Genetic Diversity - Another Issue.

2006-07-02 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 At 07:05 PM 7/1/2006, you wrote:

  This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Ruthie--

  Saturday, July 1, 2006, you wrote:

   I've been considerably encouraged since Steve made that
   recommendation for a world class cross-referencing DNA databank. We
   would love to see that initiated! I can't think of anything more
   worthwhile that could be done for the Fjord breed.

    Actually, I never recommended anything as comprehensive as a DNA
    databank.

Actually since we have only been DNA typing for about 10 years now it
wouldn't go back very far anyway.

  Simply a pedigree database going back as far as possible,
    ideally at least to Njaal 166.

Our current database does go back to Njal N-166  and a bit farther.  Take
a look at

HAKON JARL N-645



http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=2766

There are a lot of horses missing for sure though.  When the database was
put together they only put horses in that were in pedigrees of horses
that were registered.  I added a lot of them a few years ago to get some
of the more well known lines back as far as Njal.

Mike

  With such data, much more accurate
    calculations could be made to determine Coefficient of Inbreeding.

   --
  Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper  Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM,
  USA
   There is no secret so close as that between a rider and his horse.
     --Robert Smith Surtees(1803-1864)

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Breed TYPE

2006-07-02 Thread Jean Ernest

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Here is an excerpt from a discussion on the Equine Studies Institute Forum 
on type. While it is discussing the Spanish horse, I think  it describes 
what we are thinking of when we talk about TYPE For the Fjord horse also:

***
Kim, the WHOLE HORSE is of ** type. That's the part you're having 
trouble with. You have to let the WHOLE HORSE smack you in the eye and in 
the heart. It isn't his head; it isn't his back or body or legs; it isn't 
even the WHOLE of his bodily build; it is the very smell of him, and the 
way he thinks, the way he typically responds to things, how he solves 
problems, what his approach to life and people is. Also, importantly, the 
way he moves. This is what type is -- it's ALL of these things. Dr. 
Deb Bennett


Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, cloudy with showers, 65 degrees today


Re[3]: Genetic Diversity - Another Issue.

2006-07-02 Thread Steve McIlree
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mike--

Sunday, July 2, 2006, you wrote:

 Our current database does go back to Njal N-166 and a bit farther. 
 Take a look at HAKON JARL N-645

  That's true and really great, but I don't believe the database
  allows tracing every horse currently registered with the NFHR back
  that far. I know that would be a tremendous undertaking, because it
  would require coordinating all registry's studbooks, but that's the
  reason I propose it should be a project undertaken by the FHI.
  Without such a combined pedigree database it is impossible to do
  more than guess about the closeness of any given cross.

 --
Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper  Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA
 Paranoia is just knowing all the facts.  --William S. Burroughs


Re: Re[2]: Genetic Diversity - Another Issue.

2006-07-02 Thread jgayle

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Actually, although I am no expert, there is certainly such a file on 
ancestors of Fjords in either Norway, or Germany.  I base this on their 
interest in their own lineage!!!  Jean Gayle





Author
'The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949
Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press
7403 Blaine Rd
Aberdeen, WA 98520 


Re[3]: Genetic Diversity - Another Issue.

2006-07-02 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At 11:16 AM 7/2/2006, you wrote:

This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mike--

Sunday, July 2, 2006, you wrote:

 Our current database does go back to Njal N-166 and a bit farther.
 Take a look at HAKON JARL N-645

  That's true and really great, but I don't believe the database
  allows tracing every horse currently registered with the NFHR back
  that far.


No it doesn't.  I said that in my first message.   When they 
originally went from paper log books to a database system they only 
put the horses in that were in pedigrees back 5 generations.  None of 
them went back as far as Njal.  I added him and a few other well 
known lines a few years ago.  Wish I had the time to go back  add 
all of the old lines but I just don;\'t.



I know that would be a tremendous undertaking, because it
  would require coordinating all registry's studbooks, but that's the
  reason I propose it should be a project undertaken by the FHI.


The only way I see it ever happening is if all of the world's 
registries were able to upload their own new horses as they are 
foaled.  Even at that it would take a great deal of coordination of 
effort to get it to a usable state.



  Without such a combined pedigree database it is impossible to do
  more than guess about the closeness of any given cross.


Yes you are right there.

Mike



 --
Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper  Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA
 Paranoia is just knowing all the facts.  --William S. Burroughs



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Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director  Registrar
PO Box 685
Webster, NY  14580-0685

Voice 585-872-4114
FAX 585-787-0497

http://www.nfhr.com
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