Re: PNFPG member directory deadline
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Yes you paid at Libby but I will also double check your info. One typo and an e-mail address is ruined. Have you heard from Dan and Solveig since national??? Looking forward to seeing the vaulting demo. Sylvia This message is from: Peggy Enge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Pnfpg sec I believe I payed at Libby I hope I'm in the directory Green Pastures 23 Farm Kleve and Peggy Enge 20115 Frank Waters Rd Stanwood Wa 98292 360 652 7924 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let me know if it's any problem Thank you for all your work Peggy Enge We had some family things come up and if we get it ironed out we will come to the meeting The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Fall and winter training
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for the post...I agree 100% --David Connie Your friends with Fjords -- Original message -- From: Norsk Wood Works [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Norsk Wood Works This message is from Phillip Odden in Northwestern Wisconsin. Late this afternoon the temperature was 28 degrees with a stiff wind when I finished my carving for the day and I hitched a green pair of fjords to the wagon for a training drive. The wind blew leaves around the yard and under their feet as they stood to be hitched. Cats and dogs romped beside the wagon, frisky in the cool wind. Out in the pasture the rest of the herd were prancing, kicking up their heals and racing from one fence line to the other energized by the change in weather. The heavy hoof falls of the racing herd were easy to hear on the stiffening ground. As I left the yard, snow flakes filled the air briefly then subsided. The young pair listened to my voice and responded to the lines. We had an uneventful drive with plenty transitions up and down from walk trot whoa and stand. After three or four miles of pulling the bumpy hay wagon with five to six hundred pounds we unhitched and retired. ... ...Here on our farm the fjord horses are family horses and they are show horses. We do lots of things with them. They trust us and we trust them and expect them to take us out and bring us home even if the wind blows and the temperatures drop. That is one of the reasons we have fjord horses. If the fjords I have can't do that, I don't want them. Looking forward to winter fun, Phillip Odden The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fw: PNFPG now 100+ members
This message is from: Ron Sherrie Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ron Sherrie Dayton To: Ron Sherrie Dayton ; ruth bushnell Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:20 AM Subject: Re: PNFPG now 100+ members Howdy, Howdy,Just a short update and details on the fall meeting in Yakima: I just got off the phone with Debby (the host at the museum) She said the regular price of admission is $ 5. but as we are going as a group the cost will be $ 2.50 ea. and $ 1.50 for kids and seniors. When you get to the museum just tell the girl at the desk that you are with the PNFPG. They changed their hours as well, They will be open at 10. am. Also, There is a nice outdoor antique impliment museum at Union Gap, just a short distance from the Motel. They are open from 1 pm to 4 pm. So for those of you that would like to see this, we can head over there for an hour or so and then on to the meeting. Happy Trails Ron - Original Message - From: Ron Sherrie Dayton To: ruth bushnell Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:20 AM Subject: Re: PNFPG now 100+ members I got it too, not sure what he's trying to say. Do you have anything that you'd like me to take to the meeting on Saturday? Sherrie - Original Message - From: ruth bushnell To: Sherrie Dayton Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:31 PM Subject: Fw: PNFPG now 100+ members just received this from Riddle - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aarston, Dagrun ; Bakken, Allison ; Barnes, Tenille Wendy ; Bogan, Bryn ; Bushnell, Ruth ; Charvet, Heather ; Clifner, Jocelyn ; Clumpner, Marg ; Conaway, Dean and Kathy ; Duncan, Janet ; Fulton, Gordon Geri ; Gann, Susan ; Gonzales, Patricia ; Hannah, Marsha Jo ; Hayes-Rice, Sue ; Justad, Odd and Greta ; King, Amanda ; Knee, Cheryl ; Bauer, Betsy ; Gioia, Steve and Cheryl ; Grantham, Sue Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: PNFPG now 100+ members PNFPG passes the100 MEMBER mark ! Congratulations to Julia Northrup, our newest member, from Redmond, Washington and also our 100th member. (Dues still coming in) PNFPG has grown from 43 paid members at this time 3 years ago. Yes, and with growth sometimes there are GROWING PAINS. PNFPG has already grown from one major yearly event (the Libby show) to a second major event (our Moses Lake Spring Fling). Will members again sponsor 3 CDE clinics in 2007? How many trail rides, fun days, breederâs festivals? And the big question is: will PNFPG sponsor one Fall show or two? Will it be at Libby, Moses Lake or both?? The decision will be made November 4 at our Fall business meeting and whatever the answer, PNFPG is growing and moving forward. Members need to ask themselves: Which show location(s) can I participate in as a committee worker, an entrant, a spectator? To which show location(s) will I invite family, friends, potential new members and potential Fjord buyers? Enthusiasm for both shows seems high. It even looks like Dennis Johnson (almost a founding member) will leave Fjord-semi-retirement and again join the Libby show. What are the issues? Moses Lake has covered stalls and arena but Libby has a certain ambiance and a sentimental history. Moses Lake has room for the show to grow. Libby facilities have improved but also shrunk in usable field areas. Moses Lake charges for their arenas but Libby is free. Libby has a well-known asbestos problem but a few think there is an arsenic problem in central Washington. (For those folks I would suggest you never again touch any green treated wood. The green is copper-chromated-ARSENIC.) So, can we afford Moses Lake, Libby or both. Well, somehow PNFPG has always afforded Libby even though it lost money in 2003 and 2005. (2006 show costs have not yet been published) Pessimists project we would lose $3000 at a Moses Lake Show. Well, yes, maybe, if we charge only the $7 per class entry fee we have been charging at Libby. Members need to ask themselves if they save gas and time at a Moses Lake show will they be quite happy to pay $15/class entry fees. Breed shows generally charge $20 and up. $15 fees would have brought in over $3000 more at Libby in 2006. Judge costs will be less. Any judge flying into the Spokane Airport will cost less for car rental, hotel and food at Moses Lake than at Libby, 1-2 days less. So, think it thru members. Vote for 1 or both shows and lets keep growing. See you in Yakima, Nov 4 for the museum tour (11 a.m.) and business meeting (4:30) Warren Riddle, Teddy Bear Fjords, Spokane The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
training/winona/etc
This message is from: Dave and Patti Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guess I'll get my two cents in here, since there is GREAT discussion going on regarding the draft test held outdoors at Winona. About training before hand, our disposition of the breed, conditions to hold a test or show, etc First, I want to say, I think it's great we can all discuss. I hope to my adding to it, will only help, educate and encourage. I live in East Central Wisconsin, 10 miles from the lake. Seems like it is always windy here. I train horses year round. I do a LOT of it outdoors. Before I built the indoor, I even started many horses in WINTER and have been known to work in wind/rain/snow/bad weather. That being said, I would not have been a happy camper had I had to perform in that weather at Winona. ANDI might add, AT HOME MY HORSES DO NOT MIND THE WIND. I can not always be sure of that when we go places. Some horses act VERY different off the farm. I had a white gelding named Silas, gorgeous horse, I rode him EVERYWHERE in all types of weather. I know he would not have handled Winona well at all. AT home, I'm sure we would have been ok, but...he gets up with other Fjords around and he went to a LOT of shows, so please don't assume he needed more show experience, the boy was in a trailer going somewhere probably EVERY week! He was not the same horse at the non Fjord shows. BUT...get him around other Fjords and the boy turned into a handful. :-) EVERY horse is different, Ole he would have been 100% fine out there at Winona, but nothing fazes him. Me, on the other hand, would not have been happy. I personally think we pay enough money to get decent conditions to show our horse to the best of their ability and having to perform outside in those conditions would not have sat well with me, sorry. AND if you would not ask a dressage rider to do a test outside, why would it be ok for a draft person I think i would have had to have stratched had I been signed up. Although who wants to lose all their money??? The ONE thing I learned which I'm REALLY glad I did, and I'm sorry for those that didn't know this but in the future perhaps it will help someone. IF.you are performing a test and it's not going well AT ALLL! Stop, tell them you do not wish to finish the test, leave BEFORE finishing and your score will not go in the record book. You are considered stratched. AT least that is what was told to me. MIKE -OR BETH- if that is not correct please correct. It's all hindsight, the committee had a tough decision to be made,what to do. I do hope in the future and I'm pretty sure it is, lessons will be learned and things will be different. I show in all weather, local here, at hunter/jumper shows, next year, Lord Willing a few eventing competitions, Held OUTSIDE. BUTthese are shows, not evaluations. The cost is way less, their is no record that is as important as an evaluation, AND we are not being judged against the standard, by which OTHER evaluations also held don't have to put up with conditions like at Winona. Carol R. made an excellent point,it's not an equal playing field by any means. Can we blame it on poor training, sorry don't think it's that easy. Can we blame it on bloodlines. Maybe to some degree, but not totally, can we blame it on the handler being upset, uneasy, unnerved, again perhaps to some degree, but I know some horses here too would not let it get in their way. Ask Pat H. when she rode my Ole or Hostar and she was full of nerves, they were cool as a cucumber. Can we blame it on someone getting a poor score , so they are upset and making more out of it then what it should be. Don't think so. IT WAS JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE BAD CONDITIONS!!! Margaret made an excellent point here as well, Our evaluators are good, some are Excellent and if they are not happy with the conditions, I think that says volumes. Is there much that can be done now?? Maybe the NFHR can allow those to redo the test at a reduced rate??? Only for those getting below a 70. Maybe their is nothing more then just learning from it, one thing NO ONE WILL EVERY FORGET IT. Definate memory maker! One last note, I do wish to get on the band wagon about disposition and breeding. A couple of the mares that were GREAT at the draft test. Janet McNally's mare FCF Gyda(born on my farm, sold to Janet after I started her) rec'd a 91 in intro and 85 in advance tests. Also her filly Helga(3 yr old) who I worked this summer for Janet rec'd an 89 in the intro. Helga had ovly 90 days under harness and saddle. Well saddle maybe last 30 along with the harness work. They were unfazed by it. Janet can't get emails on the digest, so I'll brag for her. Janet has a sheep ranch, she does draft work outside year long. BUTHelga just went home about 1+ month before Winona. Was it just the training, I don't think so and I trained both of them, They have solid minded -thinking-fjord brain bloodlines. Valea's Lee, Grabbson, Anvil's Rorik,
Fjords in Horse Illustrated
This message is from: Curt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I just got a call from a friend of ours that has a subscription to Horse Illustrated. The December issue just arrived and it contains a feature on Fjord Horses. It seems that the interest in Fjords has been increasing. Take care! Curt Pierce Mathias, WV The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: training/winona/etc
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] After rereading Patti Jo's post and Phil Odden's, the distinction between the weather in Winona and everyday weather came to me. This weather was of storm proportions. Think of those films about the hard scrabble lives of folks on the South Dakota plains who are shown hanging onto fence posts in order to get out to the garden to pick the remnants of their garden that was about to be blown away in horizontal winds. It is the kind of weather that only desperate folks would have gone out in, because they know that it would pass shortly. Sure, it was cold much of the weekend, but the winds during the part of the day that the draft tests were being done were awful. Gail I live in East Central Wisconsin, 10 miles from the lake. Seems like it is always windy here. I train horses year round. I do a LOT of it outdoors. Before I built the indoor, I even started many horses in WINTER and have been known to work in wind/rain/snow/bad weather. That being said, I would not have been a happy camper had I had to perform in that weather at Winona The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: video from Winona?
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian and Ursula were offering one for $25. On DVD, I believe. I missed the first offer, and then inquired when they said people had been too long in getting their money in because Brian and Ursula's e-mail seemed to indicate there was a last-chance opportunity to purchase other copies. I never received a response back. (I had posted to the list and privately, both, because I think Brian and Ursula may not read all the correspondence on the list.) SoI had been debating whether to just send them money or not. Someone else e-mailed me and said he had had no response back either. I also think there may be another video in the works as well??? An official one? Clarification would be appreciated. Gail -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mom Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:26 AM To: fjordhorse-digest Subject: video from Winona? This message is from: mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] I heard a rumor that one was/would be available. Details? Sue F. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: video from Winona?
This message is from: Carol Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes. Who knows when it will be for sale??? I have it on my Christmas list. mom wrote: This message is from: mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] I heard a rumor that one was/would be available. Details? Sue F. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: video from Winona?
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:25 PM 11/3/2006, you wrote: This message is from: mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] I heard a rumor that one was/would be available. Details? Sue F. I don't have setails yet but there was over 40 hours of video taken during the event. So you might imagine that it is a really BIG editing job - so it will take some time I am guessing. Mike The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: training/winona/etc
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:00 PM 11/3/2006, you wrote: This message is from: Dave and Patti Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] The ONE thing I learned which I'm REALLY glad I did, and I'm sorry for those that didn't know this but in the future perhaps it will help someone. IF.you are performing a test and it's not going well AT ALLL! Stop, tell them you do not wish to finish the test, leave BEFORE finishing and your score will not go in the record book. You are considered stratched. AT least that is what was told to me. MIKE -OR BETH- if that is not correct please correct. That is correct Patti. If you excuse yourself before completing the test the score is not recorded at all. It's all hindsight, the committee had a tough decision to be made,what to do. I do hope in the future and I'm pretty sure it is, lessons will be learned and things will be different. We made the only decision we could make. There wasn't any other options available to us. We would have liked to have 2 days for just the Evaluation but the site would not let us in any sooner than they did. We had to beg them to get in when we did in fact. I show in all weather, local here, at hunter/jumper shows, next year, Lord Willing a few eventing competitions, Held OUTSIDE. BUTthese are shows, not evaluations. The cost is way less, their is no record that is as important as an evaluation, AND we are not being judged against the standard, by which OTHER evaluations also held don't have to put up with conditions like at Winona. Carol R. made an excellent point,it's not an equal playing field by any means. Well I agree the weather was awful. But as to being a level playing field I think all of the draft tests were on a level field. A lot of people wanted us to stop in the middle of them move it inside for the rest of them. Now THAT would have been wrong in my mind. Once you start you have to finish as far as I am concerned. IT WAS JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE BAD CONDITIONS!!! I agree it was really pretty bad. Is there much that can be done now?? Maybe the NFHR can allow those to redo the test at a reduced rate??? Only for those getting below a 70. Maybe their is nothing more then just learning from it, one thing NO ONE WILL EVERY FORGET IT. Definate memory maker! The Evaluation Committee is going to meet make a decision on it. Just so everyone knows though - 50% of the horses doing the test got Blue Ribbons. There were 4 Blues, 2 Reds 2 Yellows. In the Advanced tests there was 1 Blue 1 Yellow Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: video from Winona?
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail, The one from Brian Jensen is from the Libby show. Jean in sunny but cold Fairbanks, Alaska, 10 degrees, no wind. Brian and Ursula were offering one for $25. On DVD, I believe. I missed the first offer, and then inquired when they said people had been too long in getting their money in because Brian and Ursula's e-mail seemed to indicate there was a last-chance opportunity to purchase other copies. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: (Hestehaven.com) Oregon Fjord Club raffle
This message is from: LeVeque Ranch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy, Tried to e-mail you at this address and it came back undeliverable. Just checking on the ticket stubs of the tickes I bought. Don't remember getting them back. Thanks, Lilly LeVeque Cascade, MT - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:18 AM Subject: Re: (Hestehaven.com) Oregon Fjord Club raffle This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Brigid (and anyone else that would like tickets): Just let me know how many you'd like and I'll get them sent off to you! Or, if it's easier you can mail a check with a note saying how many tickets you'd like - 6 for $25, 14 for $50, 30 for $100 - and we'll fill them out for you and mail the stubs to you. The Oregon Fjord Club is raffling this filly to raise funds for 1) Our Expo Fund -to promote Fjords at the Northwest Horse Fair Expo each March, 2) to make another donation to the Fjord Horse Foundation (last year we donated $500) and 3) a local charity (last year it was to a medical fund for a teen who broke her neck in a car accident). The winner will be drawn on December 15, 2006 so there is only a little over a month left to get your tickets in! Please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) for your lucky tickets! Amy OR Fjord Club, Treasurer Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords 260 May Creek Rd Days Creek, OR 97429 541-825-3303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
