Re: Horses chewing wood
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, Jean, no flowers and green grass yet: not till MAY1 But I can dream of all the lovely dandelions, and fireweed and green stuff. But they ate the aspen bark in the winter and tend to chew more on the 'Poplarchunks in the winter also . Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still winter, but sunny and bright. Jean, has the snow left Alaska or are you describing the summer tree eating and misc. flowers etc. ? Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw _ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE. http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: horses chewing wood
This message is from: Lauren Sellars [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our herd has many polar or cotton wood trees in their pen and at certain times of the year ie. early spring if we drop a tree they will debark it in no time. They don't bother with them in the summer. An old Indian herb book I have says it is a good dewornmer. Interesting craving Lauren Beth Pulsifer wrote: This message is from: Beth Pulsifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone else had a problem with illness from their fjords eating trees or wood Robin in Florida We've had several different breeds of horses and they've all chewed wood at one time or another. Out in pasture they chew bark off trees... in their paddocks they chewed the fence. Sometimes it can be maddening but I guess it goes along with having horses. I now have the Fjord mare and I am finding she chews wood less than the arab or mini. She would rather back up to the fence and have a good tail or butt rub!! ( has broken a couple of boards in the process!) Our barn is 20 years old and the stalls have very few chew marks. If the horses have to be in for any length of time we throw a chunk of poplar in each stall and they love chewing on it. Keeps them busy! My husband cuts down a few poplar trees each year and cuts them up.. We have them stacked behind the barn. If they are in their paddocks we usually have chucks of poplar out there too. Seems to work for us and they've never been sick from it... but I do believe where there are horses there will be chewing no matter what. Beth in Maine where we've had around two feet of snow and it's cold and windy. Finally winter has arrived!!:) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw __ NOD32 2066 (20070216) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #42
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The cheapest and safest and best thing I have found for wood chewing is a bar of Irish Spring soap. Works great. Susie The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
raffles/donations
This message is from: Dave and Patti Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda Forward made a good point about how perhaps all the money donated could go towards the vet bill on the colt, verses half going to the vet and half to the winner. I know when I give money to an organization I just hate it when they send me mailings after mailings after mailings. It's like all my money went to the US Postal Service! Linda bought a nice gelding from Anne and Slyvester Weyker, as a pasture pet. He was injured early in his life and can't be use much, but is a super nice gelding. He is by my stallion, so of course, he's got an A+ dispostion. Anyway, Linda is typical of fjord owners, she couldn't just have one, so she found another super gelding, named Ernie. He is on my farm, sold on consignment and is going to TX in April. She is gonna have a great time learning how to ride with Ernie and just enjoying TWO Fjords in her pasture! Hear we finally may see above freezing next week, here in east Central Wisconsin. Really love the winter, but love snow more then the cold and it's been just t cold for tooo long! Horses are starting to shed, love it!!! SPRING SOON :-)) On another note, anyone have a nice pair of ROMAL REINS that they would like to sell Patti Jo Walter www.franciscreekfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Catherine's Loss
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Catherine- My heart just aches thinking of the trauma you've endured. The loss of such an old friend is horrible enough, but to deal with the unbelievable situation with the colt is too much to comprehend. You trauma reminds me too much of what I went through in 2003. My gelding Patrick needing surgery for colic and dealing with the fear and cost was traumatic. Then, within 2 weeks my wonderful mare Annie suddenly died. It seemed all to surreal. My prayers are with you! God bless you for saving that little guy! Pat McCurdy Cato, NY Proud mother of Patrick, Frolic, and Willie The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: horses chewing wood
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did a quick search and came up with a few sites that address cribbing. Two of the main reasons listed were pellets and sweet grains, confinement boredom, also mineral deficiencies, and even the condition Pica. Reference excerpts here below. Ruthie, nw mt US Occasionally old horses cannot chew their feed well due to problems of the mouth, such as excessively worn or missing teeth. These animals may require ground food or a complete pelleted feed. Complete pelleted rations for normal healthy horses can be fed, but horses often become severe wood chewers, cribbers, or weavers as a result. The reason is simple. They can eat the pellets very quickly and are bored for something to do. Pellets also do not have enough bulk to keep a horse feeling full, so they feel constantly hungry. http://ohioline.osu.edu/b762/b762_3.html There are several oral stereotypies in captive horses; wood chewing and cribbing are the most common. Diet can modify them. Wood chewing decreases when hay rather than pellets is fed (Willard et al., 1977). Cribbing occurs most frequently subsequent to eating grain - the sweeter the feed the more the horse cribs. Increasing the amount of hay or decreasing or eliminating sweet feed will reduce cribbing (Kusunose, 1992; Gillham et al., 1994). Providing ad libitum access to hay is the best way to avoid the development of cribbing and wood chewing in stalled horses http://www.awionline.org/pubs/cq02/Cq-horse.html Pica in horses: http://www.usask.ca/wcvm/herdmed/applied-ethology/behaviourproblems/pica.html The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: the colic surgery expenses for the colt
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/16/2007 3:19:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to suggest to the forum that ALL the donated money goes toward the vet bill for Catherine's colt, not just half. When I donate money for t he colt's expenses, I would rather all my donation go to the vet expenses. I don't need a chance to get something back. * Anyone is more than welcome to designate that their donation is to go 100% to the vet bill, and that is where it will go. However, some people will enter a raffle when they won't just make a donation to a cause that doesn't mean anything to them. we are just trying to cover all bases in order to get as much of the bill paid as possible. Thank you all for being here for this colt and Catherine - Even your thoughts alone mean a lot! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords 260 May Creek Rd Days Creek, OR 97429 541-825-3303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: horses chewing wood
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am in Northern California. When the weather turns wet and cold (well...sorta...it's all relative) my horses immediately develop an appetite for chewing wood. Nothing else has changed. They are in drylots that are big enough to run in, and they always get the same hay. SoI always thought it might be a wintertime instinct to get fiber. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: horses chewing wood
This message is from: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about Joan's horses but my horses don't crib, they eat bark and wood of trees which is different from cribbing. Robin in Florida --- ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did a quick search and came up with a few sites that address cribbing. Two of the main reasons listed were pellets and sweet grains, confinement boredom, also mineral deficiencies, and even the condition Pica. Reference excerpts here below. Ruthie, nw mt US Occasionally old horses cannot chew their feed well due to problems of the mouth, such as excessively worn or missing teeth. These animals may require ground food or a complete pelleted feed. Complete pelleted rations for normal healthy horses can be fed, but horses often become severe wood chewers, cribbers, or weavers as a result. The reason is simple. They can eat the pellets very quickly and are bored for something to do. Pellets also do not have enough bulk to keep a horse feeling full, so they feel constantly hungry. http://ohioline.osu.edu/b762/b762_3.html There are several oral stereotypies in captive horses; wood chewing and cribbing are the most common. Diet can modify them. Wood chewing decreases when hay rather than pellets is fed (Willard et al., 1977). Cribbing occurs most frequently subsequent to eating grain - the sweeter the feed the more the horse cribs. Increasing the amount of hay or decreasing or eliminating sweet feed will reduce cribbing (Kusunose, 1992; Gillham et al., 1994). Providing ad libitum access to hay is the best way to avoid the development of cribbing and wood chewing in stalled horses http://www.awionline.org/pubs/cq02/Cq-horse.html Pica in horses: http://www.usask.ca/wcvm/herdmed/applied-ethology/behaviourproblems/pica.html The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
wood chewing and cribbing
This message is from: Beth Pulsifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] they eat bark and wood of trees which is different from cribbing. I agree... My horses don't crib, in fact I've never had one that did, thank goodness. But most have chewed wood, fences, trees etc. Beth The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Horse Insurance
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Fjord Friends- After my financial devastation in 2003, I insured my horses! I really put a huge stress on my family's finances when my Patrick had surgery for colic at Cornell University, two weeks later my mare Annie went to Cornell with colic and was put down due to her terrible prognosis. The total for both was well over $12,000.00! I was devastated both emotionally and financially. I decided then and there I would never do this to my family again. The company I use is Jarvis Insurance. It costs me $750.00 per year for both my 12 year old gelding, Patrick, and my 6 year old gelding, Willie. I have surgical coverage, illness, and replacement. They won't insure a horse over 16. Therefore, my mare, Frolic, is not covered. However, last year Willie went to Cornell with a digestive colic (long story) and the cost was several thousand, no surgery however. I had a $200.00 deductible... it was fine! What a relief! I will never be without insurance. If you'd like contact info on Jarvis Insurance, just let me know. Pat McCurdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: horses chewing wood
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How timely the wood discussion has been. Went for a walk with the pony in the woods today and he was gobbling down small trees, branches, etc. My daughter was quite concerned about why he would be eating trees, so now I can chalk it up to typical fjord behavior. Very blustery today, with the horses galloping and leaping wildly about the pasture. Joe had a marvelous spook in the woods (at something unidentifiable) which had him hopping and squealing like a colt. Made me glad my lead rope was (a) 12 feet long so I was well away; and (b) I had a good grip on the lead rope so he did not dash well away!! Kate and Joe The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
wood chewing
This message is from: Jeanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh boy... talk about fjords chewing on wood. My three fjords, I swear, turn into part beavers in the spring (seems like that's the favorite time of year to chew) Why are they like that in just the Spring? Board, cold in spring storms cuz their loosing winter coats, some sort of deficiency? I don't know... but to stop them, we have tried painting wood with chew stop and that doesn't even slow them down a little bit... in fact our one mare, HayLee, even licks the stuff off the paint brush. :-| So, every summer we replace stall parts, chicken coop parts and posts. :-) Jeanne - Berthoud, CO where our snow is beginning to melt and oh the mud now ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beth Pulsifer Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:03 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: wood chewing and cribbing This message is from: Beth Pulsifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] they eat bark and wood of trees which is different from cribbing. I agree... My horses don't crib, in fact I've never had one that did, thank goodness. But most have chewed wood, fences, trees etc. Beth The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
insurance
This message is from: Elizabeth German [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought I'd add a few thoughts about insurance. I have insured my horses for mortality/medical/surgical for about ten years, at least until they are too old to be insured (17 with Markel I think.) Many years I didn't need the insurance but the times I did, which all seemed to be within a few years, (colic surgery on one mare who also had numerous colics and related expenses after the surgery, fairly major medical but not surgical treatment on a mare with a severe laceration across her side through several layers of muscle and tissue, shock wave treatments for a gelding with torn ligaments, gastrogard treatments for another mare who developed ulcers), I was really glad to have it. The premiums seem to change depending on the amount of mortality coverage, the breed of the horse and the primary discipline of the horse. For my fjord with dressage as the primary discipline, I think the premiums have been just over $250 per year. I purchase barely more than the minimum mortality coverage since my primary concern is the medical/surgical. There is a deductible ($150?) per occurrence on the major medical and a cap on the total annual payout ($7,500?) per horse. There is no way I could've paid for all of these extraordinary expenses without the insurance, especially since for no logical reason, all the incidents happened fairly close together. All of the horses who benefited from the insurance are still with me, although all except the gelding are now over 20 years old and can't be insured. Beth German New Mexico The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: wood chewing
This message is from: Warren Stockwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have beavers in my barn! after trying I think every method. I found in a clients barn the answer to my chewing dilemma. They use chicken wire around the uprights wrapped tight and stapled on with no sharp edges. Along the ridges of stall doors and corners strappin for wall board corners. I think that's what it's called. It is the stuff they use to finish corners in houses with the sheet rock. It's thin metal and inexpensive and a quick install. Hasn't stopped them from grabbin at the stall doors and such but I'm not replacing the boards every year either : ) Roberta - Original Message - From: Jeanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: wood chewing This message is from: Jeanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh boy... talk about fjords chewing on wood. My three fjords, I swear, turn into part beavers in the spring (seems like that's the favorite time of year to chew) Why are they like that in just the Spring? Board, cold in spring storms cuz their loosing winter coats, some sort of deficiency? I don't know... but to stop them, we have tried painting wood with chew stop and that doesn't even slow them down a little bit... in fact our one mare, HayLee, even licks the stuff off the paint brush. :-| So, every summer we replace stall parts, chicken coop parts and posts. :-) Jeanne - Berthoud, CO where our snow is beginning to melt and oh the mud now ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beth Pulsifer Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:03 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: wood chewing and cribbing This message is from: Beth Pulsifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] they eat bark and wood of trees which is different from cribbing. I agree... My horses don't crib, in fact I've never had one that did, thank goodness. But most have chewed wood, fences, trees etc. Beth The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
