Re: Spring Greetings Everyone!

[Conerstonefjords]

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Hi,
I haven't written in along time as I have been  teaching full-time this 
year w/ responsibilities for three programs!  As  our weather keeps improving 
and looking more like the spring days we dream so  for I am reminded of my 
fjord friends.  This will be a quieter year for us  as I have two foals due 
soon 
and no showing planned for this season.  I  will be finishing my masters 
program this summer so most of my time will be  spent caring for foals and 
studying. 
 Boy, Lisa's driving weekend sounds so  fun..I envy all of you going!  I will 
be helping with the raffle for the  Libby show and with the shirts for the 
Moses Lake show but not bringing horses  this year.  I look forward to seeing 
many of you at this year's events in  the west.  If any one person or farm have 
an item they would like to donate  to the Libby show's raffle..let me know.  
We are happy to let folks know  who has donated an item and will include a tag 
or farm card on it if  desired.  I'd better get working on a foal name list 
soon, hoping for  fillies but will find names for colts as well:)  Mostly, I 
pray for safe  foaling and healthy mares and foals.   I am excited about the 
news 
we  will hear from the Jensens after they return home from Denmark.
 Take care,
 Kathleen Rollins
Deer Park, WA



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Re: Grabb line

[jgayle]

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Linda, I just finished trimming and using the shedding comb on Gunnar. 
After a scare about his condition during our very hard winter, he has come 
back and looks pretty handsome!  I guess I have become accustomed to the 
drafty bit.  I just wish he was a friendlier little beastie.  Jean Gayle







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Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949
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Grabb line

[Linda Taylor]

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My lovely Sigrid, by Nils out of Stina, grandaughter of the magnificient
Grabb, is a compact, drafty mare with a most beautiful head.  She is a rare
Red Dun.  I love the drafty Fjordhorse.  She may be short and stocky, but she
is  really smokes in Cones and the Marathon at CDE's.  I think folks are
surprised by her performance.  She is the light of my life.   Linda
Lewis-Taylor in No. Cal.

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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #93

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In a message dated 4/22/07 8:12:59 PM, 
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> Spend a personal moment with your planet, your Earth, your home..
> 
> Feel something?
> 
> Then DO something!
> 

i try. i keep my impact to a minimum, try not to generate a lot of trash, 
don't buy things with a lot of packaging

and i drive   hybrid car. very low emissions, very high miles per 
gallon.almost 60 in the summer...

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Re: Another great You-tube videop

[Lois Berenyi]

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I thought the bull must have had dressage training as well.  My concern was 
for the horse.  We saw a bullfight in Spain where the horses wore heavy 
leather padding.  In this Portuguese video I thought the risk to the horse 
was greater than the risk to the bull.


Lois Berenyi
- Original Message - 
From: "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Another great You-tube videop



This message is from: "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I apologize for posting that, but  I had read about Portuguese Equestrian 
Bullfighting, where the bull is NOT killed, but the bull fight goes on for 
10 minutes, with 6 darts  in the bull.  Now I know that is too much and I 
do not approve of any animal torture, but if you want to read about it:


THE ART OF THE
PORTUGUESE EQUESTRIAN BULLFIGHTS
http://mundo-taurino.org/horses.html
(Here is part of this article:)
Modern Equestrian Bullfighting in Portugal
In her book, Cavaliers of Portugal, Huldine Beamish writes: "the 
mentioning
of the word bullfighting would probably elicit some negative reactions 
from

an English speaking readership, however when preceded by the word
Portuguese, it conjures images of one of the most exquisite forms of
equestrian display, which would interest anyone involved with horses, but
specially those of us interested in the Iberian horse."

The mounted bullfight begins with a regal display of cavaliers dressed in
XVII century outfits and mounted on equally magnificently harnessed
stallions. After a complex exhibitions of haute icole, which demonstrates
the superb training of the horse, a single cavalier remains in the ring to
face the bull alone.

In Portugal, the objective of the bullfight is not to kill the bull but
rather to demonstrate the training and schooling of the horse. The 
bullfight
consist of placing a series of long and short darts on the muscular part 
of
the bull, just behind the neck. The darts irritate the bull and make it 
more
aggressive. The performance is relatively short, ten minutes or so, in 
which

an average of six darts are placed, but it must be performed under strict
"codes of honor." The bull should be given the advantage when charging, 
that

is, it must initiate the charge before the cavalier makes his move. In
addition, the approach and encounter of bull and cavalier must be face to
face to the last possible moment, in which the horse, to escape the impact
of the bull must literally wrap itself around the bull in some fascinating
displays of agility.

The placing of darts is usually done one by one, however, it is not 
uncommon
for the cavalier to tie the reigns, hold a banderilla in each hand, and 
with
the aids of his legs and seat, maneuver his horse for the placing of a 
pair
of banderillas. During the intervals of placing darts, the cavaliers 
allows

his horse to be closely chased by the bulls and then demonstrates in an
elegant and relaxed manner, a variety of movements of dressage.

Portuguese bullfighting take place in relatively small rings, requiring 
that

the horse posses a perfect and precise training to avoid the charge of the
bull. Therefore, the success in evading the impact of the bull depends 
more

in skilled movements than in running speed. To cite Sr. Alvaro Domecq D.
again "in Portugal everything seems to have concentrated around the
development of a precise and perfect training . The labor of bullfighting
seems to be given by an equestrian master solely for the display of his
horse. bullfighting on horse back seen in this setting, has become a
marvelous game, a delectable one,. pure art".

**
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Fjord Art Wanted for Book

[Vanessa N. Weber]

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Hi All,
 
William Secord, an expert in animal art, is looking for paintings of horses
that were done before 1950. He is looking for 'portraits', and doesn't want
them of horses doing anything (i.e. driving, jumping, hunting etc).
 
If anyone has any high quality paintings, or portraits of a Fjord, which
might fit this description, you might want to let Bill know. He's doing a
book of horse portraits and would love to have Fjord(s) included.
 
He has done 3 books on dog art so far, and they've been very well received.
He used to be the director of the AKC Dog Museum, and he runs a first class
gallery of dog and horse art in New York City.
 
For more information, feel free to contact me. I'd be happy to look at
anything you might have a photo of, if you would like to run it by me first.
 
Otherwise, contact William Secord directly at: 
 
William Secord Gallery, Inc
52 E 76 Street
New York, NY 10021
phone: 212-249-0075
fax: 212-288-1938
Email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL: www.dogpainting.com 

Best,
 
Vanessa N Weber

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RE: Another great You-tube videop

[kelly MacDonald]

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Agreed, it wouldn't be fun to be that bull, but that was very impressive 
riding.  That horse was so athletic!


To make this Fjord related - today was the first day my Fjord and I 
practiced the cross country training we left off with in the fall.  He LOVES 
cross country jumping and we're entering a horse trial in June.  Any one 
else event their Fjord?


Kelly




From: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
To: 
Subject: RE: Another great You-tube videop
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 10:38:53 -0700

This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I saw a horse bullfighting routine on TV.  (I do not actually remember the
bull being hurt).  In that video the horse was even more athletic, 
literally

winding himself around the bull.  I remember thinking how the horse put our
dressage queens to shame.

I wonder how they get the responsiveness that our dressage horses do not
have.  Possibly via fear of those horns, rather than of spurs?  Possibly
also via the fact that they use horses that are better built to collect,
instead of the warmblood "go-forward-big-trot-foot-flippers?"

Gail

I agree about the bull fighting, I don't like it nor enjoy seeing it but it
is a tradition in Spain..but I was just amaze at the horse.WOW,
OH WOW...is that horse responsive.

I wonder how often though the horse gets the horns from the bull?  I hope
not often...but it sure was something to watch.just amazing.

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Re: when to decide it all has been enough??

[jgayle]

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Griet, Having had to put the love of my horse life down last winter, it is a 
very very hard decision. (made too many times as an animal lover of 82 
years) We have the agony of the decision and the horse has the agony of the 
illness. Which is greater!!! Having to give the word to put down anything 
leaves us with guilt, it is a power play. That is in the mind.  Reality says 
the animal does not know where it is going and it is an end to the horrible 
pain.  So is it our need or theirs?


The little Mini in my field, who belongs to the friend with eighteen,  is 
suffering an agony of itch. She is ruining my fences and beginning to come 
between a friendship of many years and she only knows her own discomfort. (I 
have my Vet coming tomorrow to do something!!!). If I told the Vet to put 
her down, she would not know where she was going.  Do any of us know?


You need to see this as a humane act not a killing! Let her rest and then 
get through your own loss but do not feel guilty as you have stopped her 
pain. Hopefully some of this makes sense.

Jean Gayle







Author
'The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949
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Re: when to decide it all has been enough??

[Jean Ernest]

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That is a very hard thing to decide.  Is he enjoying life?  If not, 
then it is time, but is so hard for the owner to do, so very hard.  I 
feel for you.  But decide if he is suffering and not enjoying life, 
Then it is time.


My sympathies,

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska another beautiful sunny day, will be 65 
today, mosquitoes are out already:  The big bombers that overwinter, 
out in force last night.   18  hours daylight!




like hell when you hear him breath out.
When they are all outside he does not even follow the Fjords anymore, he
just stays alone.

Now my question to you, my rate says to help him and to put him down but my
heart doesn't off course.

When do one decide it has been enough ??? I do know he wont cure from that
but when o when ??


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RE: when to decide it all has been enough??

[Gail Russell]

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My general disposition is towards early, rather than late euthanasia.  I
have kept two dogs alive longer than I should have.  In looking back, it was
obvious that they should have been put down earlier, even though I was
saying to myself (and to others) "he still wags his tail and seems to enjoy
life a bit."  

If a horse cannot stay with the herd, he has to be suffering pretty
severely, both physically and mentally (from the separation of a herd animal
that depends on sticking with the herd for his safety)

I have known people who suffered from COPD.  They feel terrible unless the
symptoms can be controlled with inhalers, inactivity, breath control
training and/or oxygen.  In "end stage" COPD people are often given morphine
to control the anxiety and rapid respiration so they do not feel desperately
breathless.  My father died from pneumonia almost 40 years ago when morphine
drips or drops under the tongue were not used.  The struggle for air was a
terrible thing to see.

If you have done things like wet his hay, put him out on pasture 24/7 and
other management techniques, and they have not relieved his symptoms, my
bias would be toward euthanasia.

If you think about it, the summer is only likely to get hotter and,
therefore, more miserable for him. 

Gail


Now, 2 months later we have extreme hot weather for this time of the year
and it seems all is getting worse with him. When he runs a little bit it's
like hell when you hear him breath out.
When they are all outside he does not even follow the Fjords anymore, he
just stays alone. 

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FHI-Notice Of General Assembly 2007---- International Guests

[Ursula & Brian Jensen]

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Greetings from Brian Jensen;
   The BOD of Directors of FHI call all members to the General Assembly
on Weds, May 2nd 2007 at 1900 hours, in Nordfjordheid Hotel, 6770
Nordfjordheid, Norway. The proposed agenda is available on the FHI Website.
The NFHR will be represented by Phil Prichard, and the CFHA will be
represented by Ursula Jensen.
   Phillip Odden FHI BOD alternate, and myself FHI BOD member will be
attending the meeting. Member FHI countries may present proposals for
discussion if presented before April 22/07. The FHI BOD may present
proposals as well. The continued work on the Official Handbook for Fjord
Horse Judges is centered on Section G-- Performance Testing. Beth Beymer,
NFHR, has been working on this committee with other European member
countries.
   The GA shall elect the President and one other board member for 2
years and their substitutes.
   Norges Fjordhestlag in cooperation with FHI invites all International
Guests to a get together party at the Nordfjord Hotel just after the GA of
FHI. There will be a short power-point presentation of the Fjord horse, and
refreshments will be served. Karl Vie has been appointed the International
Guest Services Coordinator. International Guests are invited to drop by the
office of Norges Fjordhestlag at Norsk Fjordhestsenter to pick up a folder
of information, and the Official Catalogue of the Stallions Show.
If you are visiting Norway and the Stallions Shows this year, do not
miss the opportunity to meet and visit with other International Guests.
Brian Jensen---FHI BOD Member 

Ursula and Brian Jensen
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Lumby, B.C. Canada
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when to decide it all has been enough??

[Griet Vandenbroucke]

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Hello everyone from warm and sunny Belgium,


I have a question to you all but first I want to excuse my bad english.

I have 2 Fjords and one shetland pony, the shetland must be around 20 years
old. A few years ago he started to have breathing trouble, I do not know the
exact name but he has a lameness in a muscle that he needs to breath out. It
started all a few years ago and we treated him all the time with Ventipulmin
 It all went relatively well but in summer when it was hot he had more
trouble then in winter. You can hear him breath all over the place when it's
hot.
In februari I called the vet because he had a bad cough, when the vet
arrived he had an astmatique attaque; the vet gave him 2 shots to calm it
down and it helped him well but I got the message it was the last thing he
could do for him.

Now, 2 months later we have extreme hot weather for this time of the year
and it seems all is getting worse with him. When he runs a little bit it's
like hell when you hear him breath out.
When they are all outside he does not even follow the Fjords anymore, he
just stays alone.

Now my question to you, my rate says to help him and to put him down but my
heart doesn't off course.

When do one decide it has been enough ??? I do know he wont cure from that
but when o when ??


sad Fjordy greetings

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RE: Another great You-tube videop

[Gail Russell]

This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I saw a horse bullfighting routine on TV.  (I do not actually remember the
bull being hurt).  In that video the horse was even more athletic, literally
winding himself around the bull.  I remember thinking how the horse put our
dressage queens to shame.  

I wonder how they get the responsiveness that our dressage horses do not
have.  Possibly via fear of those horns, rather than of spurs?  Possibly
also via the fact that they use horses that are better built to collect,
instead of the warmblood "go-forward-big-trot-foot-flippers?"

Gail

I agree about the bull fighting, I don't like it nor enjoy seeing it but it 
is a tradition in Spain..but I was just amaze at the horse.WOW, 
OH WOW...is that horse responsive.

I wonder how often though the horse gets the horns from the bull?  I hope 
not often...but it sure was something to watch.just amazing.

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Re: Another great You-tube videop

[Reena Giola]

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oops, I just posted about it being in spain, didn't realize that was 
Portugal.


horse was still amazing!

R
I apologize for posting that, but  I had read about Portuguese Equestrian 
Bullfighting, where the bull is NOT killed, but the bull fight goes on for 
10 minutes, with 6 darts  in the bull.  Now I know that is too much and I 
do not approve of any animal torture, but if you want to read about it:


THE ART OF THE
PORTUGUESE EQUESTRIAN BULLFIGHTS
seems to be given by an equestrian master solely for the display of his
horse. bullfighting on horse back seen in this setting, has become a
marvelous game, a delectable one,. pure art".

**
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Re: Another great You-tube videop

[Reena Giola]

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Ellen

I agree about the bull fighting, I don't like it nor enjoy seeing it but it 
is a tradition in Spain..but I was just amaze at the horse.WOW, 
OH WOW...is that horse responsive.


I wonder how often though the horse gets the horns from the bull?  I hope 
not often...but it sure was something to watch.just amazing.


Reena


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Hi Jean,
The horse is beautiful, but I sure hope we won't see any more "bull
fighting" on the Fjord list. To me it's "Bull slaughtering" and animal 
abuse.

If the Bull "fighter" gets killed or injured you'll hear a very loud "Olé"
from me.
May the Bull always win.
Ellen.

I just watched this great video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSObdP0UoHI
The Lusitano.  Boy, what moves!
AND
he is sort of colored like a Fjord!


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Happy Earth Day

[Nancy Blauers]

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Today is Earth Day.
Does anyone really care?
A flashy sportcar zipped past me as I was driving the other day...it's 
driver, hair dancing wildly back & forth in the cool morning air, glanced my 
way for a brief moment as they snapped a cigarrette butt out an open 
window..

They'll never get it
They'll never care..
Let Global Warming, Endangered Species, Conservation. and well, 
Littering.let it all be someone else's problem.I'm too damn 
busy...let someone else worry about all that stuffdon't inconvenience 
me

.and that's really easy to feel in today's world
We are all so caught up in day to day living...
So caught up in day to day routineso caught up in keeeping our heads 
above water in this harsh and unforgiving world.

But today is EARTH DAY!
For a moment-just a moment... please take a bit of time to reflect on this 
amazing planet on which we live

Stand outside in the soft green grass
Feel the breeze across your face
Hear the lilting calls of the local songbirds...
Look up to the soft light of morning.

Spend a personal moment with your planet, your Earth, your home..

Feel something?

Then DO something! Pick up trash.learn how to conserve our 
resources, be more energy efficient, offer your support to wildlife 
protection and conservation efforts, plant a tree, plant a garden, or plant 
a flower.

Show Earth that you care.not just today... but everyday!!
All of us need to do our part...
All of us need to care...
All of us need to take action
And every gesture, big or small, is a positive step in helping our world be 
a happier, healthier place.

And so my friends.
Celebrate Earth Day
Celebrate Life.


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Happy Earth Day

[Nancy Blauers]

This message is from: "Nancy Blauers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Today is Earth Day.
Does anyone really care?
A flashy sportcar zipped past me as I was driving the other day...it's 
driver, hair dancing wildly back & forth in the cool morning air, glanced my 
way for a brief moment as they snapped a cigarrette butt out an open 
window..

They'll never get it
They'll never care..
Let Global Warming, Endangered Species, Conservation. and well, 
Littering.let it all be someone else's problem.I'm too damn 
busy...let someone else worry about all that stuffdon't inconvenience 
me

.and that's really easy to feel in today's world
We are all so caught up in day to day living...
So caught up in day to day routineso caught up in keeeping our heads 
above water in this harsh and unforgiving world.

But today is EARTH DAY!
For a moment-just a moment... please take a bit of time to reflect on this 
amazing planet on which we live

Stand outside in the soft green grass
Feel the breeze across your face
Hear the lilting calls of the local songbirds...
Look up to the soft light of morning.

Spend a personal moment with your planet, your Earth, your home..

Feel something?

Then DO something! Pick up trash.learn how to conserve our 
resources, be more energy efficient, offer your support to wildlife 
protection and conservation efforts, plant a tree, plant a garden, or plant 
a flower.

Show Earth that you care.not just today... but everyday!!
All of us need to do our part...
All of us need to care...
All of us need to take action
And every gesture, big or small, is a positive step in helping our world be 
a happier, healthier place.

And so my friends.
Celebrate Earth Day
Celebrate Life.


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