Road Trip to Oregon
This message is from: cynthia vallecillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We, my husband Cesar and myself, recently returned from an awesome road trip to Oregon where we got to spent some quality time with three wonderful Fjord people and I thought I would share a little bit of our trip with the list. Our first stop was at Hestehaven in Days Creek which is located in the Southwestern part of Oregon where we renewed our acquaintance with Catherine Lassesen and Amy Evers. The last time we had seen either one of them was at the 2001 Fjord Show in Turlock, CA. You would think after all those years it would take a little time to warm up to each other, not so, we were immediately given BIG HUGS and made to feel right at home, literally! You see we stayed at Catherine and Rune's (Catherine's husband) bed and breakfast, which is in their house. I just have to say, if you are ever in southern Oregon and need a place to rest you head, fill you tummy, enjoy good conversation and stellar hospitality and be surrounded by Fjords in a "Legend of the Fall" setting this is the place!!! Our next stop was Karen McCarthy's Great Basin Fjords in Madras which is located in central Oregon. We have known Karen since we got Mik, our Fjord gelding, back in 2000 and she has been a great friend over the years. She has always been someone who I have been able to go to for advise and help with Mik (she trained him to drive). So imagine my delight when I was able to give her a hand for a change! Karen attended the Oregon Gold Horse Show in Redmond and I was her groom for two days. On Saturday she brought three Fjords; two youngsters, Oriana and Tor, and one of her mares, Imilie. We did halter classes with all three and Karen rode Imilie in some English classes and on Sunday Karen drove Imilie. OH MY GOODNESS, if anyone ever says to you that Fjords are slow and lack energy you just send them to watch Imilie That little mare is the energizer bunny in disguise, she has the most beautiful extended trot it gave me goose bumps to watch!!! We had a wonderful time in Oregon and I just have to say that FJORD PEOPLE ROCK! Cindy Vallecillo Hayward, CA Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Question regarding stallion influence on foals
This message is from: "Marge or Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello list In my animal husbandry classes, "a few years ago", it seemed that there was always a lot of emphasis on whether the male gender possessed "Paternal" or "Maternal" traits. In the horse world, that being that the makeup of the foal was more likely to be influenced by the mare or the stallion. It seems there is very little mentioned about that in the breeding industry now days. I would like to see some discussion on this "theory" or "fact". On another subject that was discussed at length on the list. Regarding "getting rid of moles". I trap them using a trap called the "black box" and made by the Victor company. I trapped 68 last year. I even had to trap for the neighbors because I "ran out on moles". I was just reminded of the subject when I saw a news report on TV that a professional mole trapper in Washington State was arrested for trapping moles. Seems that it is illegal in the state of Washington to use a leg hold or body squeeze type trap to catch fur bearing animals??? OH MY. Bet it takes a lot of moleskins to make a coat!!! Our Son and Daughter-in-law just informed me that they plan to sell their 2 yr. old filly, a 3 yr. old filly and a 4 yr. old gelding. From good stock, Registered and ready for training. They are too busy to do justice to the training of these nice young Fjords and will probably make some one a good deal on all three. Located in beautiful but getting overcrowded (north Idaho). Email me privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wishing all a Fjord Fun summer. Dennis Johnson, usually a lurker. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #116
This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Yasmine, I have ridden a fjord in a 32" Stubben which used to be Stubben's widest tree. Now they will make their saddles in a 34" tree but you probably have to order it. I considered ordering one for my new fjord but went with an Albion. For dressage, I like the older Stubben models, Romanus, Columbo, Tristen, Scandica and several other's based on the same tree with basically the same flaps position but different leathers, etc. I recently spoke to the Stubben reps at Equine Affaire and they said they will make the older models in the 34" tree. They will also put which ever knee rolls you like in any of the saddles. I would rather get an old saddle of good quality rather than a new one with cheap leather and construction. I was very dissatisfied with the Ascot made for draft horses, which is a very inexpensive saddle. You could consider a Wintec synthetic. Duett saddles are also made for wide horses and are on the low end for cost. Black Country makes saddles with upside down "U" shaped trees instead of upside down "V" shaped trees which are great for round backed horses. Frank Baines and Prestige also fit fjord backs well. I just finished saddle shopping and bought the bottom of the line Albion K2 dressage saddle which fits very round backed horses (and large butt women!). Good places to look for a used quality saddle that send the saddles out on trial and know wide horses are: Trumbull Mountain tack in Vermont: www.trumbullmtn.com M & M Tack in North Carolina: www.mmtackshop Pelham Saddlery in New Hampshire: www.pelham-saddlery.com >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Hello dear Fjord owners, > >I am new to this group so let me introduce myself. I am homesteading >in Central Yukon, Canada and I am the proud owner of 2 Fjord horses, >Abby a little mare with high spirits and the very new addition >Stormy a 4 year old gelding, a real beauty, tall, very athletic and >soft tempered. Besides riding my Fjord horses, I guide backpacking >and canoeing tours in the summer, dog sled tours in the winter (my >horses best friends are 35 huskies) work part time and grow a very >large vegetable garden under the midnight sun. And here I am already >looking for help. I need an english saddle for my new Fjord and >since I just bought him my budget is a bit tight. I looked and >looked and studied reviews and the more I read the less I know what >to do. Stormy is not one of the super round horses (like my mare for >instance that is the perfect barrel with legs) and has some withers >but still quite large shoulders. What are you using for riding your >fjords english ?? Are the cheap made in India saddles that are >offered on the web OK as a transition solution? Are some of you >riding with a Stubben (I really like to ride in these saddles but >never questioned myself regarding sizes since I was riding average >sized horses) ? and if so what tree size ? Every and any advice is >welcome ! > >Thanks in advance > >Yasmine > >The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: >http://tinyurl.com/rcepw -- Genie Dethloff Ann Arbor, Michigan The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #117
This message is from: Emily Wigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On May 21, 2007, at 8:30 AM, fjordhorse-digest wrote: Our fjords are great but they do have a jump in them once in a while or something is happening around them. Yep! To me, dead broke means they're aware and obedient, have enough experience and training to know that if they jump a little, they then listen to their rider/handler. No such thing as deadbroke, just really smart, really experienced and know how to handle almost everything that comes their way! So many of us (me included) say "dead broke" and it is a funny phrase. As I hear myself saying to my verry timid students (two particularly, with bad accidents in their past) "Yes, any horse will spook on occasion! They are horses!" If someone wants a truly rock solid 100% not-jumpy ride, they should ride a bicycle! If they want the reasonable, intelligent, knowledgeable partnership with another being, ride a (Fjord) horse! Emily Emily Wigley Fish Bowl Farm Vashon Island, Washington http://www.fishbowlfarm.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 206-463-5473 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #116
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello dear Fjord owners, I am new to this group so let me introduce myself. I am homesteading in Central Yukon, Canada and I am the proud owner of 2 Fjord horses, Abby a little mare with high spirits and the very new addition Stormy a 4 year old gelding, a real beauty, tall, very athletic and soft tempered. Besides riding my Fjord horses, I guide backpacking and canoeing tours in the summer, dog sled tours in the winter (my horses best friends are 35 huskies) work part time and grow a very large vegetable garden under the midnight sun. And here I am already looking for help. I need an english saddle for my new Fjord and since I just bought him my budget is a bit tight. I looked and looked and studied reviews and the more I read the less I know what to do. Stormy is not one of the super round horses (like my mare for instance that is the perfect barrel with legs) and has some withers but still quite large shoulders. What are you using for riding your fjords english ?? Are the cheap made in India saddles that are offered on the web OK as a transition solution? Are some of you riding with a Stubben (I really like to ride in these saddles but never questioned myself regarding sizes since I was riding average sized horses) ? and if so what tree size ? Every and any advice is welcome ! Thanks in advance Yasmine The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #117
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The foal slipped through a corner of the fence area where one of the boards was missing - it's been repaired, and the foal is growing so fast that I don't think she can slip through again. Valuable lesson learned in case I ever decide to go the foal route (although I think you guys are all crazy to do that - way too much stress!!) This is a brand new mother, and only 3 years old herself, so I think they are going to keep her and the baby apart from the others for a while. Kate ** In a message dated 5/21/2007 11:40:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there another pasture where the mare and foal can be kept? Did the foal slip under the fence easily or was something broken? A mare and foal shouln't be kept in a pasture that this can easily happen in especially with other horses nearby. In my experience I would have to say that 4 days is a bit young to have a foal around other horses but then again it all depends on several different things. Is the foal weak or strong? Big or small? First time mother or experienced mother( very important)? How many horses will there be in the pasture besides the dam and foal? ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Trucks
This message is from: Mark McGinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Jane, I pull a goose-neck slant-load four horse trailer with a GMC 2500 HD with the 8.1 liter (496 cc) gas engine and the Allison transmission. This trucks max trailer weight rating is 12,000 lbs. and that is the gross for the trailer as well but I rarely get my trailer over 10,000 pounds total. It pulls great and I usually don't even use the trailer towing mode on the truck. I imagine the diesel will give similar results. A dually will give you more "sway control" due to the added sidewalls on the extra tire but with load range E tires at 80 PSI I don't get sway with the goose-neck hitch - now a bumper pull on the other hand... Mark McGinley Washburn, WI Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:01:09 -0400 From: "Don Brackett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: truck for 4 horse This message is from: "Don Brackett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm sorry! I know this has been discussed for ever and again, but I can't seem to make the archives work! I am buying a 4 horse hawk, slant load. Empty weight 6,300 lbs. Max capacity 12,000lbs. I am also looking at trucks to haul it with. I have as many recommendations as sales people I've talked to!!! Will a 3/4 Chevy 2500HD with the duramax and allison work (GVW is 9,200) or should I go up to the 1 ton dually diesel (GVW 11,400)? These are two specific trucks we've found nearby with decent prices. Sorry to rehash but thank you! Jane in rainy Maine The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Cart Wanted
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all. My girlfriend is looking to purchase an inexpensive small horse cart .She has a small donkey and she is ready to pull a cart. Cute as can be too. I thought I would throw her wants/needs out there maybe one of you can connect her with a used cart. Her name is Laura. We live in the Riverside area of California. If anyone knows of anything that you feel may work, please contact Laura at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. Jo Wilgus Gavilan Hills, CA ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fjord Babies and Pastures
This message is from: "dfle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've never had a problem. Usually my foals are born in the pasture with all the other mares and the stallion. Last year I had the mares near the house in a lot with some geldings and yearlings. Didn't have any problems then either. I don't know about other horses, but Fjord moms tend to threaten the other horses and everyone seems to respect them. I'm not sure if you mix them in with other horses. If these horses had not been together before, I could see problems then since new horses always have to go through a pecking order. Rosemary Shome Fjords Sent via the WebMail system at cmnt1.c-magic.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: foal that slipped under fence
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: jaimie benoit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:37 am Subject: foal that slipped under fence To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com I keep my mares with foals together in a small herd, but not with any other horses until they are several months old, even though I have all mares in the larger herd. Even with mares that have been together prior to foaling, be very careful about reintroducing them. A friend of mine swears that they go through a hormone surge during the 3 day to one week post partum period and act totally crazy. My older mare will try to steal any one elses baby during that time. After a week, she is the picture of the hippie mom, letting the other mares baby sit. There may be something to that hormone surge. I know I probably overprotect, but I have had friends who have suffered some tragic losses during that early period-especially from attacks by seemingly mellow horses. Once they are a few months old, then they learn valuable lessons by being in a larger herd, and have learned enough from their moms to stay out of the way. In a natural herd, with unlimited room and no corners, their behaviour would be different, but few of us have that amount of land to run our horses on. Kathy in SE Idaho It has been hot all May but tonight it is going to frost and possibly snow. One way to get much needed water. > This message is from: "jaimie benoit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Kate, > > Is there another pasture where the mare and foal can be > kept? Did the foal > slip under the fence easily or was something broken? A > mare and foal > shouln't be kept in a pasture that this can easily happen in > especially with > other horses nearby. > > > away from where mom could get to either one of them. > Does this happen > often? > Is there a particular amount of time that you keep > the babies away from > any > other horses? > > > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Dressage Fjords
This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How nice that Obelisk made such a good representaion of the breed. But then again, he's a Gjest son how could he do otherwise? Schumacher commented that he didn't think of Fjords as forward moving horses. I think most Fjords can develop forward movement, but if their rider isn't "invested" in forward movement, well heck, they aren't going to waste the effort. The amount of effort required is going to vary between individuals, but dressage will improve the movement and training of any horse. A dressage truism is "ride your horse forward and make him straight." Getting forward movement and then contianing it if you want slower gaits will alway result in a nicer going horse than just thinking well this nice horse is just shuffling along and I think that's ok. My dressage-centric 2 cents from Sarah (usually in Jamul but visiting San FRancisco at the moment.) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
PNFPG spring fling ,Prydarson colt for sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know this comes a bit late,but I just wanted to add some positive feedback for the PNFPG spring fling in Moses lake. A "Non Fjord" friend(she owns a Quarterhorse and a Standardbred) came with me and she was very taken with the "Fjord People" friendliness and helpfulness.She felt more welcome than at any other horse event she had ever been to.By the end of the weekend she was almost ready to purchase a Fjord.Way to be guys,that's another good way to promote the breed! On another note,I wanted to spread the word that I have a very handsome Prydarson colt for sale.Lasse will celebrate his first birthday in June and as always I am having a hard time letting my babies go. Lasse is registered with the NFHR(# 06-5259-S)and microchipped. Both his sire Prydarson and dam Mia (GRomar X Moo) are registered in Canada and the US. Lasse is a pure joy to have around.His ground manners are excellent and everything is just s easy with him. He loves to be groomed and bathed,stands still for his mane clipping and feet trimming,leads nicely . His conformation and movement are athletic, balanced and pleasant.He will definitely be on the taller side. This colt has a lot of potential as a stallion or performance gelding. We are asking $US 4500. Please e-mail privately for pictures and more info. We are located in Southern BC. Uli Schnabl,Cornucopia Farm,Chase BC The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: microchip problem
This message is from: "Teressa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oops. A stupid computer mistake. Sorry list. Teressa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teressa Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:37 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: microchip problem This message is from: "Teressa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Catherine: You must be responding to another Teresa. I took Zoobie and Star up on Thursday. An uneventful trip and they went nose down in the grass as soon as they were turned out - did a few wheelies around the pasture to stretch their legs. I left Friday morning and Zoo was barely interested in me. Stallions around and grass and hay also... Teressa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:01 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: microchip problem This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Teresa, Many of the microchips are AVID and HOME AGAIN. Try these companies. Did you try the number with both a E and e . Several of our chip numbers have letters in the numbers. Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden www.hestehaven.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: foal that slipped under fence
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had an interesting experience with Gunthar. He was a stallion until the age of 8. When he was about 10 he was pastured with a fjord and her foal when the foal was very young. There was no problem with that. However, several years later he was pastured with an Arab mare and her saddlebred cross foal. He acted as though he wanted to kill that foal. I often wondered if it was a breed preference thing. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: microchip problem
This message is from: "Teressa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Catherine: You must be responding to another Teresa. I took Zoobie and Star up on Thursday. An uneventful trip and they went nose down in the grass as soon as they were turned out - did a few wheelies around the pasture to stretch their legs. I left Friday morning and Zoo was barely interested in me. Stallions around and grass and hay also... Teressa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:01 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: microchip problem This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Teresa, Many of the microchips are AVID and HOME AGAIN. Try these companies. Did you try the number with both a E and e . Several of our chip numbers have letters in the numbers. Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden www.hestehaven.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: midwest newsletter
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/21/07 10:40:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > please be advised that items of interest(or not), news, > clinics, photos, reports and whatever important dates you want > mentionedplease get them to me ASAP. With my own busy schedule I > would like to have the material in so I can work on it when I have time > ...send all > inclusions to ME Have everything in by the end of May > if i can piggyback on your wording, i am also looking for same for the midwest club newsletter. laurie with ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
foal that slipped under fence
This message is from: "jaimie benoit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Kate, Is there another pasture where the mare and foal can be kept? Did the foal slip under the fence easily or was something broken? A mare and foal shouln't be kept in a pasture that this can easily happen in especially with other horses nearby. In my experience I would have to say that 4 days is a bit young to have a foal around other horses but then again it all depends on several different things. Is the foal weak or strong? Big or small? First time mother or experienced mother( very important)? How many horses will there be in the pasture besides the dam and foal? Kind regards, Jaimie Benoit- BDF Manager and Head trainer love reading about the foals - congratulations to all the proud parents. I've never been around newborns, and had a question about an incident that happened to some non-Fjords at our barn. We have 4 pastures. Mare and 4-day old filly in one pasture, 3 geldings and 2 mares in the pasture next to them (just for the record, Joe is NOT in that pasture). The baby somehow slipped through the fence into the other pasture, and one of the geldings went after her. Not as violently as he could have, but by the time someone got to him to drive him off, he had chewed her up pretty badly and had her cornered well away from where mom could get to either one of them. Does this happen often? Is there a particular amount of time that you keep the babies away from any other horses? Kate and Joe (who seems to love babies and is very offended when the mama tries to kill him if he walks by and looks at the baby). The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: microchip problem
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Teresa, Many of the microchips are AVID and HOME AGAIN. Try these companies. Did you try the number with both a E and e . Several of our chip numbers have letters in the numbers. Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden www.hestehaven.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
microchip problem
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello list. I have recently acquired a fjord with a microchip number starting with 4135750e2f. I can find no listing in the NFHR (thanks Mike for trying) nor in the Canadian registry or the Dutch. Does anyone out there have a horse with a similar microchip readout and with whom is that horse registered? Thank you for your time. I will give more details on how we acquired this horse and several others at a later time. Teresa F in Missouri. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
