Re: Nibblenets

2008-10-16 Thread Genie Dethloff

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Someone posted a message about the Busy Snacker/Busy Buffet hay bag. 
I was going to buy one of those but then saw this posting.  I am 
trying to decide which to buy.


The Nibblenet has a soiid back and sides an a wider opening so it 
seems easier to fill and no waste on the back, but the Busy  Buffet 
is made of the 2" mesh front and back so it seems harder for a horse 
to chew through as the mesh is sturdier than the fabric.  The Busy 
Snacker has 1.5" holes while the Busy Buffet has the same 2" holes as 
the Nibblenet;  I like the 2" mesh as it is better for feeding meals 
not just snacks.  The Nibblenet can come with a Textilene mesh 
permeable fabric so water drains through it.  The Nibblenet has four 
rings for attaching the top and bottom while the Busy Buffet has only 
one ring on top.


Does anyone recommend one over the other for use outside unprotected 
in a pipe corral?



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I just put out our first "Nibblenet" that comes from
this company (I bought mine on eBay for a fixed



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Genie Dethloff and Pjoska
Killingworth, Connecticut

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RE: Guard Donkey's

2008-10-16 Thread Cherrie Nolden
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Just don't let the donkey have access to the chicken feed. They are easy
keepers like Fjords and all that grain doesn't do them good. You would need
something like a durable calf feeder, on a smaller scale of course, to exclude
the donkey while allowing the hens access to the food. We keep guard dogs with
our chickens and ducks (mixed breeds including komodor, akbash, pyrenees,
maremma, st.bernard, anatolian). Coyotes, snakes, hawks and owls would have
decimated our flock by now without those dogs. The dogs can eat the chicken
feed without a problem. Also, electrified poultry netting keeps the dogs with
the chickens (if you happen to have a wandering breed), and allows for easy
rotation of the hen's pasture. We bought ours from Premier1 Fencing, but
Kencove and others sell similar fences.
 
Cherrie
Kansas, where Shome Didrik just came back from the trainer. She loves the
cute, but clinically ADHD, Fjord!

--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Jeanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OH NO!  All this talk about donkeys is doing nothing for my argument against
getting one.

We have an awful fox problem, and my flock of chickens are who suffer
because of the fox.  

Jeanne
- Berthoud, CO

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hoof supplement

2008-10-16 Thread brass-ring-farm
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Just wondering who has had luck with what brand of hoof supplement? There
is an amazing array out there! 

My farrier yesterday suggested I put the Fjord mare on a supplement,
something that has the most biotin for the cheapest price he said. She is
the one who recently had an abscess, and though that is over, I would
like to toughen her feet if possible. When she is being ridden she takes
shoes and pads on the front and she is OK, but I have pulled her shoes
now since I had knee surgery in July and she is not toughening up on her
own. We have so many rocks here. I know it will take a year to see
improvement.

Thanks,
Valerie
Columbia, CT

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RE: Guard Donkeys

2008-10-16 Thread Karen Keith
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I, too, had a donkey.  She was from feral stock, but born on a farm.  I
brought her home at 1-1/2 years old and she walked off the trailer in charge
of the world.  I was amazed that a youngster of any species could have so much
self-assurance in a new environment.  I wasn't looking for a guard animal, but
she took up the job on her own.

Initially, she chased my two dogs, and they quickly learned not to go in the
pasture with her.  But she eventually accepted my dogs as part of our herd and
didn't bother going after them or even alerting when they were in the area.
There were even a couple of times over the five years I had the donk where I
saw a situation where the dog was trapped, and she didn't take advantage of
the situation.  Of course, I was sending her "Do not stomp my dog" thoughts.

However, she continued her vigilance with strange dogs.  I have a border
collie of my own, but I was keeping a friend's border collie for a weekend.  I
was really surpised to see the donk react and go after this visiting collie
when he wandered under the pasture fence, not near us but well down the fence
line.  Donk took off after him and sent him out of the pasture.  I was
surprised because I would have thought one black and white BC looked pretty
much like another to a donk.  No.

Donk also used to run the fence line with the neighbor's black lab.  The lab
thought the donkey was playing with him.  Labs think everyone loves them.  The
donk had her head down and ears pinned and looked for all the world like she
wanted to kill.  It was a dog-proof fence, but had the lab ever gotten in with
donk, it wouldn't have been pretty.

The donkey was a wonderful companion for my two Fjords, as well.  When I took
one off property for shows or other fun, the one left behind always had a
friend.  When I took both Fjords away for some function, donkey was fine on
her own, but always welcomed the horse trailer back with a big hee-haw.

And, Jeanne, donkeys are very efficient with their food -- they don't eat much
-- so don't let that stop you from adding a longears to your herd!  With their
usually dun colored coats, they mix very nicely with Fjords.

Cheers!

Karen, now in Northern Virginia
Rutilus Porta Farm
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RE: Guard Donkey's

2008-10-16 Thread Jeanne
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OH NO!  All this talk about donkeys is doing nothing for my argument against
getting one.

I love the little "lawn donkeys", the miniature donkeys.  For years I've
fought against my better judgment, about getting one.  What would I need, or
do with another mouth to feed?  But, have you ever seen a baby miniature
donkey?!  I think they hold a close second to baby fjords.  

We have an awful fox problem, and my flock of chickens are who suffer
because of the fox.  Our one fjord pony used to keep them away, but she also
chased our dog, so now she knows it's not okay to chase the dog, and I'm
afraid the fox, too.

After reading everybody's stories about how the donkey's protect those they
live with... hm it's got me thinking, maybe there's my justification
to getting one!

I loved Theresa's story about her jenny.

Jeanne
 - Berthoud, CO, where all the ponies are putting on their fuzzy winter
coats.  

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Guard Donkey's

2008-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I just wanted to let you know we purchased a jenny donkey just over a
year ago to stay with our 60 head of beef cows, we were having a lot of
trouble with coyote. I did a lot of research before buying one and talked
to a lot of people, the one thing to make sure is that the donkey has been
raised with whatever kind of livestock you want them to protect. Otherwise
you will have problems with them either not staying with the stock or
chasing them. 
Our donkey has been great, we have not lost a calf since we put here with
the herd. She is very protective, she stays with any cow that is down
having a calf. She also stays with the calves when the mothers go off
grazing. We had a cow have a set of twins this spring and she rejected the
second one, the donkey stayed with the calf and let us know, she needed
assistance, she is very loud when she wants something! We did have a little
trouble convincing her we could take the calf, she followed us all the way
to the barn.
I don't think gender makes much difference as some friends of ours have a
jack and they are just as happy with him. Good Luck,
Just so this is fjord related I do have 14 of them and I am sure it would
be way out of character for them to protect livestock!  
If you would like more information please feel free to email me
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Theresa in Wisconsin 

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