Re: Watch Traditional Presentation - Live Oak CDE Trailer
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com Yes...wellthis proves once again that apparently I may not even be part of the same species as Vivien and everyone else who wants to and actually doesparticipate in these events! Zowie Batman - the only parts I remember from these videos are the ones where the carriages are turning over and people are being dragged after they fall out. I think maybe I will just stick to scooping poo and leave the driving to YOU!! (and also, there are an awful lot of tall brown horses with long necks.) Kate with Joe and Della (short dun horses with perfect little necks) In a message dated 4/8/2009 3:32:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, reinbow...@vermontel.net writes: Made me want to go out and drive a marathon and I hate the marathon! **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fwd: Watch Traditional Presentation - Live Oak CDE Trailer
This message is from: vivian creigh This was just sent to me and I thought some of you might be interested.. There are 2 trailers for Live Oak after one finishes you can click on other trailer in small box at bottom of screeen, just like youtube. Horseflicks filmed every step of every competitor which is so very cool. I just ordered my entire weekend as well as the entire Single Pony Intermediate and Advanced marathons. I asked the woman at Horseflicks when it would air in it's entirety and she said they were still editing and she didn't know. For all of you involved in Combined driving and those of you who have been toying with the idea of trying it if the trailer doesn't hook you the full program surely will. Made me want to go out and drive a marathon and I hate the marathon! Cheers vivian creigh reinbow...@vermontel.net rainbow...@mac.com http://www.rainbowendfjords.com Begin forwarded message: Video: A quick peak at the upcoming Live Delayed Live Oak International CDE! http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid9774581001? bclid=9540538001&bctid=18755663001 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Who Chooses the Hay?
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com Guidelines for nutritional hay values - _http://www.caringforyourhorse.com/haycharts.html_ (http://www.caringforyourhorse.com/haycharts.html) Fescue and timothy are the most available here. After two rounds of colic involving coastal hay and the best pony ever, we avoid it like the plague. He would very much like to have oat or timothy hay, but I think they are happier with a smackeral more of a less nutritious hay. Kate with Joe and Della (who are sure they would like alfalfa the best if I was not such a horrible horse owner bent on depriving them of what the *really, really* want) *** In a message dated 4/8/2009 11:44:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rbc...@yahoo.com writes: coastal which is cheaper but it has a higher risk of colic because of the fineness of it and my vet recommends against it **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Who Chooses the Hay?
This message is from: Robin Churchill It's endophyte-infected fescure pasture that makes mares abort and I think that is if you graze them on it late in pregnancy. I know nothing about fescue hay. Sometimes I have hay that is beautiful and expensive (almost all Florida hay is expensive because it is mostly imported) and mine will kind of turn their noses up at it and something else that doesn't look as good, they will eat, so who knows? People here mostly feed some sort of Timothy, Orchard grass or T&A or O&A. It is sometimes hard to find hay without alfalfa here. Some people here do feed coastal which is cheaper but it has a higher risk of colic because of the fineness of it and my vet recommends against it. Because of that, I am always leery of feeding any hay that seems too fine but sometimes it is hard to tell in the bale so if I get some, I mix it with other coarser stuff and have had no problems. I spent 2 hours this weekend going through every flake of 8 70# compressed orchard grass bales checking for mold after I opened two bales that looked fine but were moldy about 1/4 the way through. Now, mind you I paid about $19 a bale for this stuff. I guess I shouldn't complain since this particular feed store guarantees their hay so they are going to take back and trade out the 3 bad bales for good ones but it was a real pain. It was hot and humid and I was sweaty and covered with little pieces of hay on every inch of bare skin. I had all these piles of good hay and bad hay and we had to separate them and tie them all up. I'm sure it would have been funny to watch but I wasn't amused. You never think of this stuff before you take care of horses yourself. I remember boarding and thinking to myself "why don't the barn staff do this or that?" Now I know why. Robin in Florida where the weather has cooled a bit (temporarily) --- On Wed, 4/8/09, jen frame wrote: > From: jen frame > . > Also, I remember hearing that Fescue is bad for horses--I > think it makes > pregnant mares abort. But I could be totally wrong about > that-- > > Jen in Texas where we feed Coastal Bermuda Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
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This message is from: "Debby" Its always a challenge for me here in northeast Texas, to find good hay. So many more do the roundbales, and those that do square bales might as well roundbale them for the cows. Not that I think cows should get less quality, BUT, some of the roundbales I've seen presented to cows, I would not feed to cows IF I had cows. I always tell them I don't have cows so I have to have bales that my horses will eat. The other thing, once its square baled for horses, the price goes up. It could and most likely is the very same stuff that many roundbale for the cows, but because of the equipment and the having to load the smaller square bales, they charge alot more. Roundbales that I'd seen going for 35. this past year, but the same kind of hay/grass in a square bale, and they are 8. a bale. And they "aint" that good. The other thing that really gets me, buying brown bales. I don't understand them telling me that they are sunbleached, yet you can see that it is brown all the way through. And I stay away from tight heavy bales that have no bounce when they hit the ground. For me, they've usually been baled wet. But I have bought green hay that my guys won't touch, so it must be some additive or fertilizer that was used. I know they don't like the tifton 85 or whatever that is. I've found some timothy over in the Ft. Worth area, comes from Washington state...EXPENSIVE...but the guys love it. Anyone on this list know where I can get 2strand timothy in northeast Texas thanks. Debby Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Who Chooses the Hay?
This message is from: "Cherie Mascis" >It may be a different hay, and not fescue that causes abortion. I think it is the molds that the particular hay in question grows that causes the abortions. even if your horses aren't pregnant, mold that causes abortion can't be good for non-pregnant horses either... It is almost impossible to avoid fescue in most pastures in the East and many other places. Most fescue have endophytes, a type of fungus that helps protect the plant, that although good for the fescue can cause horses and some other mammals to abort, have too large a foal, late pregnancies, have thickened placentas that the foals have a hard time getting out of and it can also cause the mare to not produce enough milk. In some animals it increaser their body temp and may affect fertility. Most vets feel it's ok for horses to eat when not pregnant (the biggest problem is the toxin binds to sites that pregnancy hormones use)and most feel that the pregnant mares on fescue are ok until 300 days and then should be taken off fescue pasture and hay until after the foal is born. My mare got straight orchard grass or timothy during the last three months of pregnancy. If you have fescue in your pasture or buy fescue hay, it's better not to let it go to seed. Mow the fescue before it goes to seed and don't buy hay that was cut after going to seed. Cherie Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Who Chooses the Hay?
This message is from: jen frame Kate, I would be inclined to not let the ponies choose, and to buy the hay that you think is healthiest. Just cuz they like it doesn't mean it's good for them. Infact it may mean that it is higher in sugars, and Fjords should have as low a sugar content in their hay as is possible. Also, I remember hearing that Fescue is bad for horses--I think it makes pregnant mares abort. But I could be totally wrong about that-- I suggest doing some research. It may be a different hay, and not fescue that causes abortion. I think it is the molds that the particular hay in question grows that causes the abortions. even if your horses aren't pregnant, mold that causes abortion can't be good for non-pregnant horses either... But PLEASE double check me, I think I could be wrong on the type of hay Jen in Texas where we feed Coastal Bermuda On 4/8/09, katesei...@aol.com wrote: > > This message is from: katesei...@aol.com > > I feed fescue hay. So now it is time to buy some more, and > I am inclined to let the ponies decide on our hay supplier by what they > like. > > What would you go with - the hay that looks better to you, or the hay that > the horses like better? > > Kate Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Who Chooses the Hay?
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com I feed fescue hay. The first batch I bought was not tightly baled (it's a local good ol' boy and his baler is giving him trouble), and it seemed to have a large number of weeds in it (although nothing poisonous). It did not smell delicious and fresh to me, although it did not smell bad, did not seem a rich color. The ponies loved it and there was never a scrap left. One might say they gobbled it up. The second batch I bought looked better to me. Tight heavy bales, no weeds, smells like hay, I can see some batches of leaves in it. But the ponies definitely are not as fond of it. Oh they'll eat it, but not with the same relish. Neither batch was moldy or dusty. So now it is time to buy some more, and I am inclined to let the ponies decide on our hay supplier by what they like. What would you go with - the hay that looks better to you, or the hay that the horses like better? Kate with Della and Joe (who have made it clear that the critical factor is making sure there is always hay of some sort in the barn!!) **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: fjord/mule
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com As always, I am not really qualified to opine on anything other than how to get myself dressed in the morning. But I know one of the things that first drew me to Fjords was how much like mules they are!! Smart, strong willed, good common sense - all of which can be positive or negative depending on the situation. The trainers I know and have worked with have also commented on how alike they are, finding that they are more like mules to work with than they are like regular horses. Kate with Joe and Della (both of whom are smarter and stronger willed than ME!!) *** In a message dated 4/8/2009 2:24:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, spiek...@isu.edu writes: there are more similarities between the mules and the fjords than most fjord owners would like to admit. **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
