Re: Gjest

[spiekath]

This message is from: spiek...@isu.edu

- Original Message -
From: John & Eunice Bosomworth 
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: Gjest
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com, fjordiss...@yahoogroups.com

Sorry, I did not cut and paste so the last message was long. 

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Re: Gjest

[spiekath]

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- Original Message -
From: John & Eunice Bosomworth 
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: Gjest
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com, fjordiss...@yahoogroups.com

I think maybe you have misinterpreted the comments by Carol.   If not, the
tone is not appropriate for the list, even if Carol is not on it.   Sorry, I
do not intend to be confrontational, but this is a public forum and some
civility should reign.  If I have misinterpreted your comments, you have my
sincere apology.  Anyone who knows the Rivoirs, whether they are friend or
not, knows the regard with which that horse was held and the care which was
given any horse in their care.  Most of us wait too late to put a loved animal
down. 

> This message is from: "John & Eunice Bosomworth"
> 
> Carol:  << healthy ... he wasn't sick or
> injured or in any obvious pain.  He was declining,
> though.  >>>
> I'm sure glad that Carol won't be looking after me in my
> "declining" years.
>
> Carol:  <<>>
> By "putting Gjest down" seems a rather drastic way to accomplish this.
>
> ~Eunice
> Deere Country Fjords in Ont.
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Re: Gjest

[John & Eunice Bosomworth]

This message is from: "John & Eunice Bosomworth" 

Carol:  <>>

I'm sure glad that Carol won't be looking after me in my "declining" years.

Carol:  <<>>
By "putting Gjest down" seems a rather drastic way to accomplish this.

~Eunice
Deere Country Fjords in Ont.

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RE: Two mares for sale in CT

[Vanessa N. Weber]

This message is from: "Vanessa N. Weber" 

That's very funny! It's 13' 3. Sorry folks! ;-)

Vanessa

-Original Message-
From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com
[mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of ruth bushnell
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:50 PM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Re: Two mares for sale in CT

This message is from: "ruth bushnell" 

> The second is Los Trigos Zipper, (2003, King Gjestar X Mira).>
>
> Born in Santa Fe, this 3' 3" mare has lovely ground manners, loads, clips,
> stands and has had some riding training.
>
>Vanessa

EITHER this mare's size is a typo, or she is my dream come true? 
=)

Ruthie, nw mt US 

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Re: Two mares for sale in CT

[jernest]

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I'll bet she meant "13h 3".  Otherwise she is 9h-3" !  A real Fjord pony!

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where golden leaves are at their peak...65 degrees.  
A
record warm September!
>> Born in Santa Fe, this 3' 3" mare has lovely ground manners, loads, clips,
>> stands and has had some riding training.
>>
>>Vanessa
>
> EITHER this mare's size is a typo, or she is my dream come true?

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Fjords photos

[Tonja Acker-Richards]

This message is from: Tonja Acker-Richards 

I think ponies are obsessively preoccupied with grass.  I had a late  
breaking ideasparklers. If someone stood behind a cameraguy with  
them lit the horses would have to atleast pick heads up briefly to  
investigate. Hope your son enjoys his senior pictures.


Tonja Acker-Richards
Pond House Farm

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Re: Gjest

[JadeBear]

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My heart, too goes, out to Carole and Arthur at the loss of their great 
stallion and friend.  Among others, I was lucky enough to meet Gjest during one 
of those wonderful BDF driving holidays and he was a teriffic schooling 
horse as well as a breed champion.  I know Gjest is in a place now where he's 
young and strong again and can run across the fields with Tessa all day and 
never get tired.  
Meanwhile, many of us owe and Carole and Arthur a big thanks for giving 
him such a good and productive life on this side of the Atlantic.  Because 
they did, the beautiful Malcom Locke was born and moved to Ohio where he 
sired Brynjar 430-B (my Braveheart pony) who has brought so much fun and love 
to my barn for the last 10 years.  Braveheart is my 
halter/western/English/carriage/CDE/bareback/treasured companion pony...in 
other words, the horse of 
my dreams and will be with me for as long as we both last.  Thanks, 
Carole.
And thanks, Gjest.
 
Kay Van Natta

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RIP Gjest

[Bella Cavallo Farm]

This message is from: "Bella Cavallo Farm" 


I read with sadness the post by Carol Rivoire and Gjest.  I want to express
my sympathy to the Rivoires during this difficult time and share in their
loss.  We had the pleasure of visiting with Gjest over the past yrs many
times and he truly was a class act.  What an excellent specimen of the
breed!  We own a beautiful 20 yr old mare sired by Gjest by the name of
Gjesther and as well we are proud owners of BDF Yukon also a Gjest son and
our resident stallion...he is sure to follow in his fathers footsteps as a
class act.

 

The Fjord breed has suffered a great loss.

RIP Gjest

 

Sheila Kyte and Ron Reginato, Bella Cavallo Farm

Albert Bridge, Nova Scotia

Canada

 

 

 

Ron Reginato and Sheila Kyte and Family
Bella Cavallo Farm
Quality Norwegian Fjord  Horses in Beautiful Cape Breton
  www.bellacavallofarm.com

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Re: Carol and postings to the list

[Kathleen Prince]

This message is from: Kathleen Prince 

I don't post much but I would like to say that when I got my fjord  
mare a year and a half ago, Carol was the first to extend her hand  
and offer advice to me. She was more than gracious and helped to  
assure me things would be fine w/me and my girl. I find it so strange  
that the person who wrote the book on the breed isn't on this list -  
I never knew there had been any disagreements. But, if rules were  
broken such as advertising then it seems more people should be banned  
from the list.

She certainly wasn't obligated to tell anyone of their decision to  
euthanize Gjest. That is the most heartwrenching decision an animal  
loving person can make and I am grieving with them. How wonderful his  
legacy will live on but their hearts will always be broken.
--
Kathleen Prince
kathl...@pookiebros.com

Pookie Bros. Pet Sitting
Professional Pet Care In Your Home!
http://www.pookiebros.com



On Sep 17, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Debby wrote:

> This message is from: "Debby" 
>
> Hi Steve,
> I'm sure your sympathy extended to Carol is sincere about the loss  
> of Gjest.
> It does bother me that its included in the further comments about  
> why she left
> and then stating that she has to make a public statement and  
> specifically what
> she has to say, and I think you mentioned that twice.

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Re: Two mares for sale in CT

[ruth bushnell]

This message is from: "ruth bushnell" 


The second is Los Trigos Zipper, (2003, King Gjestar X Mira).>

Born in Santa Fe, this 3' 3" mare has lovely ground manners, loads, clips,
stands and has had some riding training.

Vanessa


EITHER this mare's size is a typo, or she is my dream come true? 
=)


Ruthie, nw mt US 


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Carol and postings to the list

[Debby]

This message is from: "Debby" 

Hi Steve,
I'm sure your sympathy extended to Carol is sincere about the loss of Gjest.
It does bother me that its included in the further comments about why she left
and then stating that she has to make a public statement and specifically what
she has to say, and I think you mentioned that twice.   While I'm not sure
that she'd rejoin the list, even if all she had to do was resubscribe,
obviously there are hurt feelings between the two of you...but isn't this
something that one might describe as a  being the "bigger" person, to extend
the hand of forgiveness and move forward.  The really bad thing about
computers and emails, once you click that "send" button, there isn't any
taking it back.  Its out there.  I've done it, I'm sure most of us have.  I'd
sent something to one person, thinking I was forwarding it to another person,
bashing the person I'd sent it to.  Knew it the minute I clicked the send
button.  Who hasn't done that, raise your hands.  I know its not an excuse,
but, I always go back to the "I'm only human and humans make mistakes".  I
tell that to my ponys all of the time.
I miss Carol on the list.  I miss the list being active.  It doesn't seem so
active anymore.  I've seen  posts to the list about fjords for sale and tack
for sale.  I know you'd made the other link to put "for sale" items, I guess I
don't understand why there had to be the other link.  Are many using it?  or
visiting it?
Anyway, I know its your list, it just seems a bit harsh to me.
Debby in Tx

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RE: Two mares for sale in CT phone/cell info.

[Vanessa N. Weber]

This message is from: "Vanessa N. Weber" 

My cell number is 860 961 9993. My email address is kenjock...@cshore.com.

Vanessa

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[mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Vanessa N. Weber
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:12 PM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Two mares for sale in CT

This message is from: "Vanessa N. Weber" 

I have two mares for sale. 

 

The first is Stella V, (1999, Lynild I x SF Greta). 

 

This 14 hand mare is fun to ride. She came to us from Nova Scotia as a 6
year old and was used as a school horse at an eventing oriented barn. Stella
enjoys jumping and could be used for trail riding, lower level eventing and
hunter pacing. She can be a bit marish at times around other horses, but is
otherwise a safe horse who likes people. My then, 10 year old daughter, rode
her and liked her. I would like $5,000 for her but would consider lower
offers to the right home.

 

The second is Los Trigos Zipper, (2003, King Gjestar X Mira).

 

Born in Santa Fe, this 3' 3" mare has lovely ground manners, loads, clips,
stands and has had some riding training.

 

Zipper is a special needs mare. She came to me when my aunt died, as a 2
year old. She has been trained by a professional trainer for some time.
Zipper is incredibly sweet but is not a competitive riding prospect. We
think that she would be a lovely, low key driving prospect if she was
trained. There are very few driving opportunities here in Connecticut. I
would like $2,000 for her but would consider lower offers to the right home.

 

Vanessa N Weber

Kenjockety

546 Stevenstown Rd

Westbrook, CT 06498

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Gjest

[mabogie]

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Carole had told me that she was putting Gjest about a month ago, but it still 
comes as a shock to read it on the list.? Tom and I had the pleasure of 
learning to drive Gjest on one of BDF's fabulous driving vacations.? He was 
terrific.? All the other horses were mares and at least one of them was in 
season during the week we drove.? Gjest was all about the business of driving 
and a perfect gentleman.? We left Nova Scotia with a sourvenir of Gjest; we 
bought a consignment mare and had her bred to?Gjest.? The result is our 
stallion, Ironwood Blitzen, who definitely inherited the good temperatment, 
ability to performa and the versatility of his sire.? Blitzen has gone S1, 
G1?in Evaluations, he has earned his V and E awards, and he actively competes 
in dressage, eventing and driving.? 

?

Gjest does not have a HOF designation, although he?has easily achieved this 
standard many times over.? I don't know if Carol must apply for it or if NFHR 
can provide it for him, but Gjest certainly deserves this recognition.? Gjest 
was an important stallion for North American Fjord Horse breeders.? His passing 
is a loss to all of us.

?

Margaret Bogie

Ironwood Farm

http://www.ironwood-farm.com

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Carol Rivoire and the FjordHorse List

[Steve McIlree]

This message is from: Steve McIlree 

First, let me state that I am much saddened by the passing of a great
Fjord stallion. Gjest has had and will continue to have a major impact
on the Fjord breed in North America. My deepest sympathy goes out to
Carol Rivoire for her loss.

I would like to clear up the idea that Carol is not allowed on the
FjordHorse List. It has been some time since she chose to leave the
List. The problem began after I limited her posting privleges for
repeated violations of standing rules about advertising. Carol then
vehemently complained to the NFHR Board of Directors. Since, as Mike
has stated, the operation of this List has nothing to do with the
Registry, I informed Carol that her posting privileges would be
suspended indefinitely until she sent a message to the List stating
she fully understood that this List was owned and operated as a
private service and had no connection whatsoever with the NFHR. At
that point she chose to unsubscribe from the List. Since then she has
never attempted to resubscribe.

I will state here to that portion of Fjord Horse community represented
on the FjordHorse List that Carol Rivoire is welcome back as a
subscriber any time, so long as she willing to abide by all rules of
the List and will publicly acknowledge that there is no connection
between the List and the NFHR nor any other organization.

Steve McIlree
Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List

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Gjest

[Jill's Computer]

This message is from: "Jill's Computer" 

I spoke with Carol on the day she put Gjest down. Her anguish was  
painful to hear, and her decision was bravely made for the sake of  
the horse. If she were selfish, she would have continued to try to  
keep him alive, even though he had been obviously failing for at  
least three years. They almost lost him last year, but with heroic  
effort pulled him through. Carol loved that horse more than some  
people love their children, and those of you who have written unkind  
things about her care of her horse should be ashamed of yourselves.  
If you think it makes you sad to think about the death of this great  
and generous stallion, just think about how it makes Carol and Arthur  
feel. Many of us have stood in the same place - agonizing over just  
when the balance is right, when the best choice for the animal is to  
let him or her die with dignity and without pain. I am deeply  
grateful to Carol and Arthur for all they have done for the Fjord  
breed and for me personally in allowing me to acquire the most  
wonderful horses I have ever met.


Jill K. in New Jersey with many Fjords well loved by Carol and now by me

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My Gjest Post

[Mike May, Registrar NFHR]

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" 

I recently sent a message from Carol Rivoire about her stallion Gjest.  It 
began like this:

>This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" 
>
>The following was sent to me at my request.  I told Carol I would forward it 
>to the list for her since she is still not allowed on.  Please send any 
>replies to Carol directly - Her email address is:
>
>mailto:beave...@ns.sympatico.ca
>
>Mike


I have received a couple of messages privately now about Carol not being 
allowed on the list.

I just want everyone to be reminded that this list in not the NFHR's or my 
list.  The Fjordhorse list is owned by Steve McIlree & the FjordIssues list is 
owned by Fred Pack.

I am merely a member on both of them as all of you are.

Thanks, and again please send your replies to Carol.

Mike


===

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Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
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Webster, NY  14580-0685

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