Re: Foot and mouth disease
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi linda, Merek Ive had lots of folks ask me if Im worried my horse will get it and have to be put down I guess its very easy for infomation to get mixed up and if you dont know much about farms etc friends at work asked what cloven hoofed meant! but as my trusty mountain bike Pinky is getting disinfected when I go to the farm my shetlands live at I figure my bike is just as likely to be a carrier as my horse or indeed my boots! still we have stopped going out and are confined to the farm ! fiona Yorkshire ,England [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Merek, I don't know who your friend in the UK is but it would appear to be an illinformed, raving lunatic! There is no culling of horses as they are not affected by the disease, only animals with a cleft hoove, as for horses carrying the virus this is also untrue. The virus is airborne and can be on clothes, cars etc. Does your friend propose that they get the army in to eradicate all possible sources of infection? Any by the way, this issue has nothing to do with the Army. It is handled by the Department of Agriculture. Honestly!!!??? Linda, Scotland
Re: Foot and mouth disease
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Merek well of course Im no expert but Im keeping an eye on the British Horse Society web site for updates re Horses and MAFF (ministry of Agriculture Fisheries and Food) for the rest and the army are not killing every animal in sight , The MAFF are only at those farms that have tested positive and then they test all animals with in a 5 or 10 mile exclusion zone according to the MAFF site only cloven hoof animals suffer from it (sheep, pigs, goats and cattle)and in wild amimals(the type we have ) Deer , which apparently are very susceptible to it and can die from it. Hedgehogs , rats and very strangely the list said Elephants! They are not putting horses down but people have been asked not to ride out, hunting has stopped racing every thing their is a national ban on the moving of all live stock, as a big problem is this very infectious virus can be spread by lorry tires , our shoes, horses shoes , cats , dogs ,even my bike tires The National Trust have closed all there Deer parks, as have the big parks in london, this evening they closed Dartmoor national park as it has a big deer population and is not so far from one of the farms that has been found to have FMD unfortunately that farm in Devon is a big exporter in Europe, so many places in Europe are also taking precautions if your place is found to have it the MAFF will put down every animal that can get FMD and the owner will get compensation later, its so infectious its the only way to stop it you can find out more at www.maff.gov.uk or The British Horse Society at www.bhs.org.uk (look under latest news) Fiona in Yorkshire, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, question here. Friend in the UK says that if foot-and-mouth is found in an area or on a facility, the Army kills ALL animals on the scene, even if it would be a fancy English riding stable. Horses and all get the chop. Given that they are not susceptible, but can only carry it physically, meaning they could be quarantined or disinfected, this seems unreasonable. Of course, in the UK, they don't own guns and could not offer resistance to the soldiers, as we could here under such circumstances. Anyone know for sure what the practice is here and in the UK to deal with such a situation. I could see a major uprising if a stable owner was told his whole herd was to be killed over a disease they can't even get. Comments? Merek
Re: Fjord history of types
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] About the book Anneli has mentioned, I ordered the book via Inter-Library Loans scheme Its certainly an interesting book,(even though I couldn't read it) it's full of pictures of interest photos and drawings and certainly worth a look at if you can get hold of a copy I have the ISBN etc if you want to have a go at ordering it 8252127592 Happy Trails Fiona Yorkshire, England. Anneli Sundkvist wrote: There is a wonderful book about this business in Norwegian, with many old photos and drawings of fjords: Rogan, B., 1986. Det gamle skysstellet. Reseliv i Noreg frå mellomalderen i førre hundreåret. Oslo. I belive that somebody on this list (Fiona?) ordered this book on interlibrary loan, so perhaps she can inform other list-members if it's worth ordering or buying it even though you don't read Scandinavian languages. The book is still in print, and I've seen it in the shop of Norsk Folkelivsmuseum in Oslo.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #253
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello jane I see you are in the uk , where do you hail from and do you have a fjord fiona in yorkshire Jane Jones wrote: This message is from: Jane Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have experience from the waistcoats? (And what are they called in English:o) I think you mean Body Protectors In the UK they come in three ratings aprox recommended uses: Racing - Eventing - Team chasing X-country - Show jumping Pleasure riding the lower the protection the more comfortable supposedly I have top protection one but don't were it all the time depends on what I am doing Always were my crash helmet though!! Jane Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tamaris.org.uk
Re: Wanted Fjords in England....
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betsy if you have an email address for this request,I could maybe help them, I know a few people but they are not on line. fiona Yorkshire, England. Betsy Bauer wrote: This message is from: Betsy Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List, I was contacted by a person who is shopping for a fjord in England Are any folks from England on our List? Do any of you have fjords for sale...? Please contact me if you do thanks Betsy www.fjordpony.com
lost list
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello list Sue Glenister from Sussex, England who was on the list but changed her email address recently and can't seem to get back on too the list She told me she added her new address into the list wed site but it just gets returned! any ideas that I can pass on to her Her new address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks fiona
book
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anneli I just got the Book via inter- Library loans that you told us about that had a picture of on old side saddle in it Its got some other lovely pictures and drawings of fjords and carriages. pity I can not read it. Ive passed on some copies to David Stewart of FHRS as unfortunately the book came as reference only to the library thanks for letting us know the ISBN etc. Happy Fjording FionaYorkshire England.
Re: Gypsy ponies
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes ,Debi Ive seen the US web sites on Gypsy vanners the price tags are amazing the gypsy coloured ponies are the same horses, they are a type much loved by the gypsy people, that's how they got the name. As for origin I shall check on that ,but Im sure it will be British native pony breeds crossed with Draft breeds such as Clydesdales and Shires my friend has a Dales cross shire and it a good Driving type but its not coloured but our local gypsy's always admire her. I'll see what else I can find out about them for you Happy Fjording Fiona Yorkshire ,England. whfjords wrote: This message is from: whfjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is from Debi Williams in Erie Pa. Dar Fiona, The fair you speak of sounds like a wonderful sight. In the USA, there is a breed(?) htat has recently appeared called the Gypsy Vanner. There are only a handful and they are very very expensive. Would you believe $20,000.00 for a embryo for transfer. $30,000.00 for a foal before it's born. Are these a specific breed there or is this just something someone started to get a bunch of money here??? There are web sites for these horses here in the USA. the ones I've seen only on the web and in pictures are quite nice. But I cna find no history of thisa breed until someone in Florids decided to impot them and start his own registry. Just wondering. Thought I'd ask someone who would really know. We have 7 Fjords and 1 Appie. Courious, Debi - Original Message - From: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 9:38 AM Subject: Re: Appleby fair This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Im sure you will enjoy your visit to Appleby Fair its quite a sight! In recent years they have tried to improve the image of the fair, after a few terrible avoidable accidents ,which certainly put the gathering in a very poor light. Gypsy ways might not be to everyone's liking but its certainly a spectacle They have those ponies flying around up and down the streets (its very dangerous) In spring gypsy ponies appearing all over ,its a kind of gathering up ready for foaling, spring sales and fairs. they almost appear over night ,tethered by the road or in fields ,we have some fields near us with 20 or more coloured gypsy ponies in them Of the ponies I see near to me many are kept very well and are in fine health ,well shod and fed but unfortunately not all are, But you dont have to be a gypsy to neglect your horse Happy Fjording Fiona Yorkshire , England. Dave McWethy wrote: This message is from: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know if I have mentioned here that I am going to the Appleby New Fair in England in June. This is an annual gathering of the Gypsies in England, and a big horse fair which has happened since 1750. Prior to going, I have been doing a lot of reading, and some surfing to see what is on the Web. Check outhttp://www.saintes-maries-camargue.enprovence.com/gitan.htm It sure looks like that poor horse is pulling an awful lot of weight.
showing
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] over here we have quite strict dress codes for showing and at some shows you could be stopped by a steward from entering the ring if you are badly turned out. Like Carole said its your choice to go showing. But I don't think you have to have lots of fancy expensive gear unless you intend to show a great deal just be turned out neat and tidy in appropriate clothes (not shorts and T-shirts) I go showing alot and it annoys me if people are in the ring in shorts t shirt etc. when everybody else has made an effort, it also puts your horse down and is not very nice for the judge. plain coloured trousers and shirt and clean boots/shoes look nice ,you don't need to spend lots to look good for the job of showing The info on western turn out is very interesting ,Buller and I are going to our first western show in June so Im looking at what to wear Happy Fjording fiona
Re: Appleby fair
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Im sure you will enjoy your visit to Appleby Fair its quite a sight! In recent years they have tried to improve the image of the fair, after a few terrible avoidable accidents ,which certainly put the gathering in a very poor light. Gypsy ways might not be to everyone's liking but its certainly a spectacle They have those ponies flying around up and down the streets (its very dangerous) In spring gypsy ponies appearing all over ,its a kind of gathering up ready for foaling, spring sales and fairs. they almost appear over night ,tethered by the road or in fields ,we have some fields near us with 20 or more coloured gypsy ponies in them Of the ponies I see near to me many are kept very well and are in fine health ,well shod and fed but unfortunately not all are, But you dont have to be a gypsy to neglect your horse Happy Fjording Fiona Yorkshire , England. Dave McWethy wrote: This message is from: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know if I have mentioned here that I am going to the Appleby New Fair in England in June. This is an annual gathering of the Gypsies in England, and a big horse fair which has happened since 1750. Prior to going, I have been doing a lot of reading, and some surfing to see what is on the Web. Check outhttp://www.saintes-maries-camargue.enprovence.com/gitan.htm It sure looks like that poor horse is pulling an awful lot of weight.
trimming
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meredith I don't know the rules for your part of the world but over here showing Mountain and Moorland breeds the rules are Shown in the natural state, of course that means hours of fussing over manes and tails but making sure it doesn't look like you have! people trim the coronet band etc but you have to just make it look natural cutting whiskers off the face is frowned upon, they are there as you say for a good reason my fjord has actually been kicked out of the ring for having a clipped mane in a MM class . he was allowed back in after I had a word with the judge, who had only seen fjords before in Scotland and they all have long manes up there! Happy Fjording fiona nicholson Yorkshire, England.
Re: SV: New Fjord site - shameful!
x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com X-Loop: Majordomo @ NSTS This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anneli, Yes its a great shame ,this site gives a bad impression of the breed not just in the pictures but also in the poor and misleading text Fjord folk in Britain are very embarrassed and offended by it but not really surprised It shows fjords in a poor light not just here in Britain but also Europe, many of the fjords in Britain are Danish in origin. The fjords in the picture you mentioned are part breds they did this motorbike display for quite a while( it was actually very good) This society runs a part bred register Fiona Nicholson Yorkshire, England Anneli Sundkvist wrote: This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isn't it a bit strange that an official registry and breeding organisation shows what obviously is a cross as a pure-bred in the gallery? If you look under 'Our Fjords at work play' - the very first picture.
hello
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Susan G Hello its nice to hear from you, Elspeth said to say hello also I have kind of been off the list for a while not reading the mail but Im back reading it all now , not that I do much more than lurk I hope who ever is going to Norway this spring,they remember who ordered the weather last year and see if they can do the same for this year? Elspeth and I are going to the show in Holland in August , we have a daily ferry service to Holland from Hull which is just up the road so we thought we would have a few days over there I haven't done much this winter , we've lost our school for a while ,water company dug it up for a major pipe line they will put it back but when they don't know, they need to test the pipe and its not finished yet before they bury it properly But I decided we had to do some work as we are both getting lazy so we are going to the local riding school for western lessons one lesson was good the next Buller didn't want to play (Fjord Head on) but we booked another Happy Fjording Fiona ,Buller ,Billy and Sadie Very wet in Yorkshire today
Re: ragwort
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glad you like the look of Yorkshire , my auntie used to live in an old stone house I always remembered it as cold unless you were close to the fire Oh yes david lives in Aberdeenshire Happy Fjording Fiona Jean Gayle wrote: This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fiona, what a beautiful country side to live in. Hope you never tire of the beauty. Will take more time to see the rest of the site, but Hull and the Wolds are so peaceful and I love the old buildings. Wonder what those old stone houses are like to live in David is near Aberdeen Scotland not Aberdeen Washington USA isn't he? Love your mud magnets description. Mine also seems to be a dark mud object in this rainy country. Must get to dinner. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: ragwort
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] David and Jean I was wondering if it was Gorse ,It does spread very quickly we have quite alot near us and theirs lots up in North Yorkshire on the moors they burn it to get rid but sometimes set the moors on fire as well Thistles are ok except in hay because Buller eats them but they stick in you hands doing the nets Buller and the Shetlands are all fine, coats are coming out abit and this requires them to do even more rolling in mud than usual! Sadie is fully recovered from having a sarcoid removed from her tummy not sure if the vet is ! It must be a lot easier to get out the way with a riding size horse if your patient suddenly starts to play up, but when you have to kneel down ( she's 33) and practically have your head on the floor , its a dangerous place to be Luckily Sadie seems to be mellowing in her old age because my vet says she may be prone to them and they usually appear on tummy JEAN Yes Yorkshire is a nice place , lots to see and do and full of history I live between Hull and Beverley on the wolds. If you want to see I have added the local tourist board site and if you look at either Hull or the Wolds you will see where I live http://www.ytb.org.uk/main_frame.htm You know David lives near Aberdeen and I don't think he hates the English any more , but his ancestors may have had call too Happy Fjording Fiona ,the 3 mud magnets East Yorkshire , England.
Re: ragwort
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean That's just how it is here , Im not sure what Scotch bloom is , we probably call it some think else over here We also have problems in some areas with Japanese knot weed and even Rhododendrons which in some areas are growing so well they are killing all the native plants. Happy Fjording Fiona very windy in Yorkshire today Jean Gayle wrote: This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fiona, it used to be in the old days here that Scotch Bloom was a forbidden plant and you could be fined if it was found growing on your property. So for years it was rarely seen. Now evidently it is a favorite as it lines our highways and no one sees to its removal. Funny how things change. Jean
ragwort
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean I had read about the caterpillars in a horse magazine , but we don't have them available over here. my sister who is very interested in Bugs loves ragwort because its the home of the cinnabar moth which is very beautiful but id rather not have ragwort In a summer Britain's motorways , rail sides and road verges are a sea of golden yellow, in the last few years its spread has been quite alarming considering its on the Dangerous plants /weeds act and you can be made to clear your land But nobody wants to admit its their problem , our local council will only clear a road verge that someone's put a complaint in about and leave the rest Even locally to me Ive seen horses grazing in fields that are maybe 70% ragwort theirs no excuse for it our Horse press print information all the time on the danger! The most worrying thing is that its getting into the hay crops etc. and its more palatable to horses when its dried. Creosote is readily available over here but it is horrible stuff and lots of people use the more friendly stuff Happy Fjording Fiona Yorkshire, England.
weeds
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the subject of weeds , the only one we have a real problem with is Ragwort,( I guess you will get this deadly weed also) although we have not got loads a few plants in some fields its so hard to get rid of even most chemicals only knock it back for a while we have stopped it spreading by hand pulling and making sure it never seeds but the plants always comes back bigger and stronger some time ago I read a letter in a horse magazine that suggested creosote painted onto the roots you have left in the ground after hand pulling we tried it this year and it works , its so smelly it keeps animals away and soon disappears , so I can say it works for the odd plant doing more than that it would be a very messy job The weed killers that do kill Ragwort are really strong chemicals mind you the battle against ragwort is never won because even if your fields are ok, if you just have one plant nearby you are in trouble each plant has 1000s of seeds Ragwort is a big problem over here . Happy Fjording fiona Yorkshire, England.
Re: FairHills
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ive only just read this mail but if you are still interested the address for Fenix is still correct as of this months edition of carriage driving magazine and Fenix have a web site at www.fenixcarriages.co.uk or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] fiona Karen McCarthy wrote: This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] while there saw one contestant with a Fenia Competition Rig. Does anyone know who makes or sells these rigs ? Should read :Fenix Available from: Mark Broadbent East Ruckham Cruwys Morchard Tiverton,Devon EX16 8LS UK tel. 0363 866532 Good luck, this address is a couple of years old, gleaned form the British driving magazine 'Carriage Driving' Karen __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Natural manes
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi , List I've been away from the list for a while (computer died) I've now got a new one But Im sorry if I repeat the mail Im replying too ,I haven't figured out how to just repeat a few lines ,so please forgive me (Im hopeless with computers) My Question is for David Stewart How long have you had a registry up in Scotland , I've never come across many Fjords in Scotland only a few of Glen Tanar breeding Happy Fjording Fiona very hot in Yorkshire today Mike May, Registrar NFHR wrote: This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:14 PM 8/27/99 +0100, you wrote: This message is from: David Stewart, Registrar [EMAIL PROTECTED] David, Glad to see you decided to join the Fjord List. for the rest of the group that doesn't know, David is the Registrar of the Fjord Horse Registry of Scotland. The Fjord Horse Registry of Scotland has recently become affiliated with the NFHR. What this means is that if a Fjord is either imported or exported to or from Scotland we would honor each others Registrations pedigree's The FHRS web site will be going on-line soon now. I am sure David will be sharing the URL with us as soon as it is ready. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
