Re: auction - reasonable prices for Fjords
This message is from: gcsolita...@aol.com What do you consider OLD? -Original Message- From: Linda Lottie To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 4:21 pm Subject: RE: auction - reasonable prices for Fjords This message is from: Linda Lottie Well, exactly, Beth. No matter what the breed, a well trained horse is not likely to be found at that price unless it is old. Nothing wrong with an old horse.I rather like them, but, age brings it's own issues. Linda Linda Baker Lottie Wild Wind Farm Equestrian Center "Where Hearts and Hooves Come Together" Grantsburg WI No love, no friendship can cross the path of our destiny without leaving some mark on it forever. -Francois Muriac www.heartsandhoovesforever.blogspot.com > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:59:03 -0700 > From: starfiref...@usa.net > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Subject: Re: auction - reasonable prices for Fjords > > This message is from: Starfire Farm > > I'm sorry, but I just can't get by the notion that under $2,000.00 for a > trained Fjord, especially well trained enough to be a reliable horse for > a lesson program, is a reasonable price. > > At a basic minimum, the financial cost (only the financial cost) of > raising a horse is about $1,000.00 per year (plus or minus, depending on > the cost of hay, veterinary services, farrier services, etc. and the > fluctuation of those expenses). Multiply that by at least 3 or 4 years > (depending upon when the owner decides to start the horse under saddle > or in harness). Add the time or finances to have the horse trained, or > the time to train the horse yourself, to the capablity of being a good > lesson horse and you probably have -at the very least- another $1,500.00 > (minimum) to $3,000.00, depending upon the quality of the training. So, > at a minimum for a 4-5 year old horse, you have a financial investment > of at least $5,500.00 for a trained horse. > > Anyone else have thoughts on this? > > A price of less than 50% of that financial cost just doesn't sound > reasonable. Desperate, maybe, but not reasonable. > > Beth > > gcsolita...@aol.com wrote: > > >This message is from: gcsolita...@aol.com > > > >I am looking for a group of solid fjords for a lesson program. I am located in Colorado. Please let me know if anyone has several trained fjords for sale at reasonable prices. Under $2,000. > > > > > > > >Amy Schnelle, > > > >Spirit Lake Farm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Starfire Farm > Beth Beymer and Sandy North > http://www.starfirefarm.com > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: auction - reasonable prices for Fjords
This message is from: gcsolita...@aol.com Eric thank you, my thoughts exactly. Amy Schnelle -Original Message- From: Eric Kozowski To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:16 am Subject: Re: auction - reasonable prices for Fjords This message is from: Eric Kozowski Starfire Farm wrote: > So, at a minimum for a 4-5 year old horse, you have a financial > investment of at least $5,500.00 for a trained horse. > > Anyone else have thoughts on this? I have some thoughts based on what I've seen in the horse market in the last year. Raising horses, especially right now, is not a money making proposition. These is a glut of horses on the market right now and even well trained horses (not necessarily Fjords) can be had for under $2000. At even the big auctions, like Billings, nicely trained horses were going for $500-$2000. Colts were bringing $50-$250. Hermiston was about the same. Horses are luxury items (unless you're a professional cowboy) and people are cutting way back on spending on luxury items. If you are trying to sell horses right now, you have a couple of options: 1) Keep firm to your higher price and be willing to wait quite a while for the right buyer to come along 2) Lower your price Anyone that is breeding horses right now, with the intent to sell them, is completely foolish. Especially if you are going to try and sell an untrained colt. -- Eric Kozowski Joseph, OR "You can see what man made from the seat of an automobile, but the best way to see what god made is from the back of a horse." - Charles M. Russell Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: auction - reasonable prices for Fjords
This message is from: gcsolita...@aol.com I agree with you completely. I have 20 Morgan show horses. the average cost to have a baby trained to the age of three is is $27,000 in the state of colorado with a local trainer, that includes board. However as you stated that does not include farrier services, vet services, breeding fees, or anything else.. However, if we were all to put prices on our horses by the amount of money that we had sunk into them by the age of three we would all own million dollar horses Nothing works that way. A horses value is what you are willing to pay. if one looks at the amount of money that they will drop into their horses over the next year, what is their true worth?. Do you add it to their price? Or do you subtract that price from your bills for the next year? Desperate fine, if you know anyone that is desperate and wants their horse to have an amazing home let me know I have a Morgan Grand National Champion, 15 years old, for sale today for $3,500 he could take you to the world, am I desperate to sell, no I want him to have a great new home where people will enjoy him. Children that want to show. Enjoy the morgan breed, that has out priced itself to those that are less fortunate. Call me crazy! By the way if the horses are started I can finish them.. -Original Message- From: Starfire Farm To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 9:59 am Subject: Re: auction - reasonable prices for Fjords This message is from: Starfire Farm   I'm sorry, but I just can't get by the notion that under $2,000.00 for a trained Fjord, especially well trained enough to be a reliable horse for a lesson program, is a reasonable price.  At a basic minimum, the financial cost (only the financial cost) of raising a horse is about $1,000.00 per year (plus or minus, depending on the cost of hay, veterinary services, farrier services, etc. and the fluctuation of those expenses). Multiply that by at least 3 or 4 years (depending upon when the owner decides to start the horse under saddle or in harness). Add the time or finances to have the horse trained, or the time to train the horse yourself, to the capablity of being a good lesson horse and you probably have -at the very least- another $1,500.00 (minimum) to $3,000.00, depending upon the quality of the training. So, at a minimum for a 4-5 year old horse, you have a financial investment of at least $5,500.00 for a trained horse.  Anyone else have thoughts on this?  A price of less than 50% of that financial cost just doesn't sound reasonable. Desperate, maybe, but not reasonable.  Beth  gcsolita...@aol.com wrote:  >This message is from: gcsolita...@aol.com > >I am looking for a group of solid fjords for a lesson program. I am located in Colorado. Please let me know if anyone has several trained fjords for sale at reasonable prices. Under $2,000. > > > >Amy Schnelle, > >Spirit Lake Farm. > > > > > > >  -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com  Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f  Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: auction
This message is from: gcsolita...@aol.com I am looking for a group of solid fjords for a lesson program. I am located in Colorado. Please let me know if anyone has several trained fjords for sale at reasonable prices. Under $2,000. Amy Schnelle, Spirit Lake Farm. -Original Message- From: Kathleen Prince To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 8:18 am Subject: Re: auction This message is from: Kathleen Prince I won my pregnant rescue mare over with Quaker Oats. She had come from Canada to FL and was scared to death. It was a slow process but I think the fact I was there just with her everyday made a huge difference. I would sit outside her pasture gate, with her just on the other side of it and read aloud to her. We were reading about how to have her baby! Bless you and best of luck to you and the filly. You can see pictures of my fjords on their blog: http:// cassidyapril.com/ -- Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com Pookie Bros. Pet Sitting Professional Pet Care In Your Home! http://www.pookiebros.com On Feb 22, 2009, at 9:32 AM, GBeverly wrote: > This message is from: "GBeverly" > > The fjords that went at the Auction in Pine City all went to very > happy people > who were excited to get fjords. One is going into a handicap riding > program, > we purchased one to go with our older mare for driving, we thought > about > breeding our mare and decided there are enough that need homes out > there > already. We purchased a filly she is very scared but will come up > and let you > stroke her, any suggestions on this beginning period are welcome? > Just because they went cheaper doesn't mean they went to bad homes, > all people > love the Fjord they are out of price range for allot of people, > when we > purchased our first one we sold a camper trailer to buy her,we have > never > regretted it we love the breed. > Garcia and Jackie Beverly > Forest Lake Mn > > > --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Transportation or trailer
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rosemary, I have a personal hauler that is looking to fill a trailer and is headed that way. What locations exactly are you looking at, and what is reasonable to you. If I have exact locations I would be more than willing to get a quote for you. He is willing to negotiate price somewhat at the moment. Because he is traveling light. Amy Schnelle, Spirit Lake Farm. -Original Message- From: dfle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 7:33 am Subject: Transportation or trailer This message is from: "dfle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have some people trying to find reasonable transportation or a used horse trailer to buy. They live in Texas and buying horses from me in Missouri. Anyone coming or going that direction, or anyone in between that has a used horse trailer for sale. Thanks! Rosemary Fleharty Shome Fjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: west nile in colorado
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fort collins colorado
west nile in colorado
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just to let everyone know. Not to long ago a horse died in our barn, a public facility and the cause was unknown, but there is a great belief that it might have been the first case in colorado of the west nile virsus . No one knows for sure, But everyone should have their horses vacinated.
the dressage issue
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My fjord miss Asa is in training with a dressage trainer in fort Collins and is doing well, my trainer is very happy with her ability to perform movements and her over all ability to be a dressage horse. I know nothing of the event itself except that it is the foundation for all training. Anyway, my trainer found an article about to months ago and had me read it. It was about a fjord that was competing at the prix St. George level. It was very interesting that the article explained that the rider needed to understand the horse and it's ability, that the horses conformation would set the animal on the forehand but that she as the rider had made the fault, and the judge was extremely impressed with the horse. She was given very high scores nothing lower than a six. I have to admit I find the breed to be very interesting. I love Asa very much, and I think that any fjord has the ability to make the marks that they deserve.
questions about anemia
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had my fjord's blood tested recently and it came back that she is anemic. I was curios what you all might suggest, or recommend as far as vitamins go. I have had Morgan's that were anemic before, but if I put them on something like red cell, they became extremely hyper, even if the were usually calm/ fjord like :). If you have any suggestions I would truly appreciate it. Thanks Amy Ebbert
My information
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all, My name is Amy Ebbert. I am 19 years old,and I live in fort collins colorado. i have been riding for 12 now. I have 10 morgans, and 1 fjord that arrived to me on the 13th of this month. She has already become my best friend. I believe that you all made her arrival much shorter than it could have been for suggesting all state horse express. Thank you. :) Amy
