Re: speaking of trailering
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debby I wonder if they tied their heads up which would stress the neck muscles and could cause shaking? Weird? Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
spray
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am having my barn, house, roof and some out buildings pressure washed with a mold killer that they say converts to nothing in three or four hours. Anyone have any experience with these sprays? I never use weed killers etc on the place because of the animals. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: grazing muzzles
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Krist luckily I have a thin pasture that I can put the two easy keepers on if necessary. However when they suddenly blow up and emergency measures must be employed to keep found off then I use a muzzle. It is a wire basket type. I had to bend it as it was too round and rubbed her nose. At first there was bewilderment and frustration as she tried to graze. She soon learned to get a few blades and as she could be with the others it soon became routine. Get a strong one as you do not want the wires breaking. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
tractors and Fjords
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gunnar has absolutely no fear of my friends Kabota (big) when it is time to grade the feeding area and muck area. He chews on the tractor when Dan is working it, hangs onto a piece of the back while it is moving etc. After we get over laughing and trying to get him to move away, I halter him and put him in the barn. No wonder he is not sure he likes me. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Swollen Legs update
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] So sorry to hear the rather negative report on your boy. Good things do happen and I am sure you will find people here who have had similar problems. My thoughts are with you during this very stressful time. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Swollen Legs
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joe do you have possum around the place? Also West Nile? Hope your Vet gets there soon. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Overdue mare (again!)
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sherry are you asking who I am or what? I mentioned about my mare bringing on milk on demand. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Overdue mare (again!)
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michele the horse market is dead everywhere. No offers on my warm blood mare altho I have reduced the price to about zero!! My two horses dam would not bag up until the foal hit the ground and could bring in her milk even though she was not in foal or with a foal on demand!! Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: A new stallion
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoa Nancy you are populating the horse world. How wonderful to hear of your son coming home, what a relief!!! Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Differences between Fjords and Haflingers
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lois you make a good point about the cleanliness (or bathroom habits) of fjords. Probably not true of all but it is here. When my warmbloods are in the upper barn, rarely locked in stalls, I have poop detail as they poop all through the stalls and aisle. When I tire of this I shift them to the large field with run in and bring Gunnar up to the barn. What a nice vacation. He never messes in the barn, rarely locked in, and it stays so clean. Like a nice vacation. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #94
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very funny Rhonda but understandable. The birds have maxed out here from the quantity of hair available. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: good collar, bad hair...
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eileen I have always cut a narrow bridle path with my fjordies. Just start the are back a bit. I am more concerned with Gunnar's fluff that is alongside the mane seemingly from letting it grow all winter. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Gail's Video Problem- possibly a remedy
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark it is just plugged into the wall. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Gail's Video Problem- possibly a remedy
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark I have one of Radio Shacks receivers, transmitters out in my barn and down in my arena. Altho it is supposed to be a three way it only works as a two way. One thing re noise is I note that if my porch light, backyard light, radio or TV is on there is background noise. Once they are off there is clear reception. My electric fencer also causes a repetitious clicking. Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
fur
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finally had a dry enough day, between showers, anyway, when Gunnar was half dry. I had let his mane grow out all winter and trimmed it back to a fuzzy line with hopes it will learn to stand up again. The clippers could not cut through his thick stubble. Curried and curried until he became restless and my arm gave out. Let him loose and he stood there watching me rake up his leavings. The fur and mane weighed in at just ten pounds. And there is more to go. He was obviously pleased with it all and actually allowed a pet. He is going to soften one of these days. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Hearld
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reena I received my Herald last week and they usually come here first, I believe. Mike can tell you better. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Fjord names
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to the library (or call) and get the wonderful book Kristin Lavransdatter by Sigrid Unset. It has many many Norwegian names. and is great reading also. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Waverly Fjords
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] What wonderful news about the auction fjords and what great work in getting the info out and all arrangements covered. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re:
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon is 2.5 percent more likely to survive that much more positive? Is the vaccine then that much more effective? Jean Whose mathematical genius never developed! Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: bird nest over horse
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janet, I wonder if bird mites can affect a horse ie chicken mites do not cause problems with horses. This was a bird roost not nest, but probably does not make a difference. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Re:
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Jean re the 250%. My brain is showing signs of wear! Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Dryland Distemper
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now I am wondering if my bit Trakehner has pigeon problems. A bird had been nesting over where he liked to stand. I was cleaning bird droppings off his left hip. Sometime later I noticed there was a wavy spot in the hair and heat plus fluid dripping from the about six inch by six area. I showed it to the Vet last winter and he could not make out what it was. Now it is smaller, still a bit warm but not leaking but the hair is still not right. Showed it to the Vet again and asked if it might be from the treatment of the sarcoids. I continue to treat the small area by the sheath left from the sarcoids. He did not think so but did not think it was a problem.. Now I wonder if I should expect eruptions elsewhere?Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: West Nile vaccine reactions?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean I have given a series of three shots to my three @ $19.50 each. First two were in Sept and Oct. Then just had boosters. Absolutely no reactions. Last shot was given with an EPM shot and no reactions. My big horse reacts to the least twinge. But no problems. Your Vets charge a lot. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Waverly Auction, Update
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lynda what is distemper in a horse? Or is someone giving you the run around?Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Prayers for our soldiers
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bless all of you with sons, brothers, husbands, wives, sisters, daughters and mothers and fathers et al. Freedom and justice for all. Hug your fjords tonight. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayne, I have an older two horse, oversized 2300 lb trailer towed by my 3/4 ton 1987 ford truck. I think the sway bars add stability altho the trailer tows quite smoothly on it's own. Just a little less movement with the bars. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Training Question
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nancy I would like to know if the gelding was too close to her and so the rider is at fault for coming up too close to an unknown horse. If that is the case than the mare really is not to blame, the other rider is. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: mosquitoes and bats
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not go with those statistics, ten people in fifty years. There have been two deaths here in Wa. in the past five years. One young girl died two years ago 18 miles from here. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: mosquitoes and bats
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol, my cat would love to have me put that tar paper up as bats are her frustration. I would go for the houses as a cat can not get in if it is placed in a cat proof area. I give my animals rabies shots every year (includes horses) as we do have bats here. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: dogs fjords
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good to hear the story about Pooh and the coyote. Amazing she was so determined to do the job herself. Makes me feel more confident re what might happen here with the coyotes circling about the neighborhood. Wonder how a cougar would fare? Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: foals
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alright, now every one knows I am not a good speller and use spell check. Evidently the computer loves horses and refuses to allow euthanasia to be seen so made it into a musical reference.. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: foals
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was talking to a friend of mine who has a large training arena in Olympia. She says the horse market is deader than any time she can recall. She is in her early fifties. I recall this happening before and many horses being euphonized or mistreated. So when I hear all the births coming I wonder what the world will have to offer the new ones? When this happened before, everyone stopped breeding and then, about eight or ten years later, (maybe longer) there was a shortage of horses!!! My warmblood mare has the best of breeding, but no sale so far. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Norway Fjord Horse Shows
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peg be careful your mare does not pack up on the wheat straw. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: weight measure
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have covered this once before, of course, but I still disagree with using the weight measuring tape on fjords. Their legs are shorter than the bulk of their bodies compared to horses. At least the drafty types. My tape measured my 13.2 Fjord as weighing 1200 pounds. My Vet agrees that he can not be that heavy. Granted you have to push a bit to find a rib through flesh and fur. My 16.2 hand warm blood mare (for sale) is 1300 to 1400 pounds. Has anyone actually weighed their Fjord on a scale? Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Fencing
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have cedar posts every ten feet and some iron capped posts along the way. The fencing is graduated field fence so neighbors dogs etc can not get in. I top this four foot fencing with hot wire and those white caps on the metal posts. The only trouble has been Gunnar sticking his head between boards of the wooden gates and running off with the gate over his neck. These gates open into the yard so he does not go far. Those gates are also now tied shut. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Lions Tigers and Bears!!!! Oh my!
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Susan, very interesting re the tigers and lions. I would not feel trusting enough of those fences. Whew!!! I think you will find the inherited trait is there in the average domesticated cat and dog to stalk and attack. Most human hunters also have it!Jean PS only difference I can see is the man does most of the hunting, not the woman. Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Horse Camels and other exotics
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Taffy all I have had experience with is elephants who came to our fairgrounds and were shown in the indoor arena. Most horses took the odors and sounds in stride but the hyper ones, my Charley, spooked at odors and piles, and are they pilesJean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: harness bells
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re bells. Years ago a man came up with the idea of bridle rosettes with a good sized bell on them. Anything new was picked up rapidly and so there were many serious accidents. Not only the horse wearing the rosettes the first time but also horses near by panicked. So be sure your horse hears those bells for awhile before attaching them to the harness. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Sher's carting mini ox picture
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] By now you know an ox is a separate breed of bovine. They were used in Europe extensively up to the second WW. Then mechanization took over and when I was there in May 2002 I did not see one. Sad. They used to lumber over the cobble stone streets and you honked etc to try and get past the slow moving wagons.. Also their hooves would be trimmed at the blacksmiths on a main road and they were placed in an elaborate and strong framework. Not mean critters to my knowledge. But huge. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Sarcoids in sheath?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen when you use the xterra I am sure your Vet told you to apply it three four days in a row? It smarts the second or third day but that means it is working. Charley's sheath was quite swollen and I gave him Banamine as needed. But it is nothing like the shots and seems localized. Yes it is expensive but it goes a long ways despite the tiny bottle. Unless you slaver it on of course. Good luck Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Sarcoids in sheath?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail. the sarcoids on Charley's sheath and inner thigh were external and the xtera has done a great job. Yours sounds more like a (hopefully) fatty tumor or such. I am sure Steve can tell you. We are going to treat Charley one more time and finish the small bottle of xtera. The hardened skin is almost gone and where the skin turned white it is back to a natural color. This stuff really works. Good luck, Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: What is horse brass?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dee Anna, I know that horse brasses do not go by the ear of the horse. Would look kind of strange. My point is that sellers often mix up brasses and rosettes. I quit (hard to imagine) buying brasses because of the repros. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: What is horse brass? Link to Pic here...
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To clear up a point. I have a large collection of horse bridle rosettes and when I said that the horse brass might be a new rosette that came from a recent problem.. Maybe not so recent as the Koreans copied one of our better rosette maker's product very poorly. There is a fellow who sells under the name of Slatesigns and he produces new rosettes which are now going as vintage by other sellers. He also ages them but normally tells that. One of the patterns is of a fjord and altho the glass is poor on my pair I think he is now doing them better. If you contact him directly he sells them about $6 a pair incl shipment. If you buy them on Ebay they are $18 up. He is causing confusion re age of the rosettes for beginners. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: What is horse brass?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sue, do not forget that horse brasses, often confused with rosettes or vice versa, were originally to ward off evils. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: What is horse brass? Link to Pic here...
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher this is a new rosette that goes on the bridle by the ear of the horse. If they did not use the wrong word, horse brass then it is an ornament that goes on the harness of driving horses. The Fjord is a wonderful little horse good for all occasions and is from Norway, in case you are new to the list.. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: EXPOS and VHS Tapes
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catherine, got a kick out of your hug a fjord today and that they would get a sticker for doing it. They will get more than that. Covered with shedding hair. Gunnar is leaving horse angels where ever he rolls. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
address
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda Tekin I have tried to send you an email in answer to your questions but it is returned as improper address?? Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: A little something for Valentine's Day
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very nice Amy. Well done. Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Gwendellin for sale again?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joanna, good question re why horses are not kept in one place. My first horse. anglo Arab was a fancy equitation boy and his owner had need to progress further than he could go. I got him at 12 and he died here at 22. My first fjord Howdy was purchased at two or three by Karen Mc and trained and I bought him at six and he died here at 12 by reason of a stupid Vet. (My best friend is a Vet) Gunnar my second fjord has a history of various owners. The breeder sold him to a lady who had him for five or six years and did not use him. As I understand she gave him to a Therapy school where the owner did not like him and mistreated him. He was rescued by a young lady whose children adored him and spoiled him rotten. There was a divorce and I got him. Both of my warm bloods were foaled here. I am selling my warm blood 12 year old mare as I will be leaving the farm for a retirement home in the next few years. Better to find her a place at 12 than at 14-16. Gunnar will go to friends who have a fjord and have to adjust to another move. My big boy Charley will be pastured near where ever I am. He is 22, That is pretty much a gamut of reasons for horses being passed around. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Fencing - recommendation???
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark, besides the expense of putting up these fences how about the electric bill? Do you know how much it costs to maintain the electricity? I know someone with a fifty acre vs a five acre makes a diff. in figuring extra cost but here we pay very high prices for our electricity. So does electricity go up 5%, 10% etc. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Fw: Driving Clinic
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deb are you writing to me? Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563 - Original Message - From: Deb Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: Re: Driving Clinic This message is from: Deb Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where are you located?? Debi Williams Williams Hill Fjords Waterford, Pa Subject: Driving Clinic
Re: WEST NILE VIRUS VACCINE...
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] We sure need a lot here Karen of the West Nile Vac with the Govt growing mosquitoes in five acres near by. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Rural Life.doc
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phillip I should have read this before I sent a frustrated email to the list. This is a lovely piece. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: AVMA proposal
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lordy Lordy, how stupid we masses must be. If someone on here, a non licensed, non pro, etc, tells me my horse has cankers and not sarcoids and suggests an herbal treatment without seeing the horse am I then so stupid I accept the diagnosis? Isnt that what so many of these innocuous policies and controls suggest I think life has always been a series of people who govern assuming they must control free will. Whoops getting into deep probs here, but just needed to vent against the small number of thinkers who try to control the masses with their own agenda. This is not meant against any one on this list. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Fjord Shirt - Needs a Caption
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ruth, that is one clever woman. Enough sayings to do for many years. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: possums
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Right on re possums. Stupid creatures, who wait too long to play dead while the dogs are tearing them apart. I was up last night helping the dog dispatch one rather than have the neighbors complain about his barking. Every once in awhile the coyotes sweep through and then possums disappear forawhile. Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: A Whisper In The Fog
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whew, Pamela, that takes the breath away and I too wonder. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Fjord fencing
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Second statement re electric fencing. Young foals do not know how to back up and when they hit a hot wire they frantically push forward and can injure themselves severely. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Fjord fencing
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can tell you one thing about fencing. A fjord is an opportunist and if there is any way they can get theirs head through to the grass beyond, you will have a damaged fence. Gunnar stuck his head through my wood small gate and lifted his head with the gate around his neck. Off he went at fifty miles an hour with the dreadful creature around his neck about to get him. When he reached the far fence he had already figured out he just had to lower his head and shake the monster off. After which the imp then spied the open space where the gate used to be and came like a freight train, ducked under the hot wire and immediately started feeding on the lawn. When I left the window and came out the door he sped back under the wire and looked quite innocent. The small gate is now anchored. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: West Nile
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve that was one of the questions asked but an evasive answer ended up with, It might even help etc. I do not have that much faith in the Govy programs!!! This is in a remote area with two small towns and lots of farming country and vacation sites. Fishing and oyster farming. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: rainrot
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Steve, just as I thought re rain rot and scratches. As for hygienic try that in our rainy climate and muddy fields! Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
West Nile
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just learned that 18 miles from here there is some kind of Govt project to raise mosquitoes on a five acre tract. When horse owners and others complained they were told that the project might even lessen West Nile. Of course we are helpless to do anything about it. Maybe when people get to dying the Govt might change its mind?? We have wet lands all around and plenty of mosquitoes as is.Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: rainrot
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are we getting scratches and rain rot mixed together? I did not know rain rot occurred anywhere else but on the back, shoulders and rump. My horses always clear when they shed. My big horse has scratches in the summer time on his white pastern only. I think he picked it up when he stood in mud for a long time during training at a stable. I can control it with diluted Clorox but it never completely goes away.Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: new members
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] My horses get rain rot every winter because they get so wet and muddy you can not keep them groomed. I begin as the weather turns warmer to comb and rub the areas as much as the horse will allow until eventually shedding and combing cure the problem. Never had a change in hair color . Sometimes heat is felt in the area and the horse may be quite sensitive so just letting shedding take care of the rot seems to work just fine. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
branding
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gunnar has an old brand, (he is 19) and it disappears in the shaggy winter and is fairly faint in the summer. Says 3 something. It is on his left shoulder above the elbow. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: How much memory?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoa, that is really long term memory Steve. I think we really sell our animals short on many things because they do not speak our language. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
How much memory?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last week a lady and her husband came to look at my Holsteiner mare that is for sale. We walked into the field where Gunnar and the mare were feeding at the far side. Gunnar is very easy to catch, just stands wherever he is and waits for you to halter him. This time as we started into the field he threw up his head, ears stretching up, and let out a squeal and came thundering toward us. I told the couple to stand still as he would not hurt them and it appeared he thought he knew them. As he drew near he circled still squealing and the mare decided it was her turn so she joined him in a great rush which set me back a bit. The visitors must have thought it was always like this. Gunnar circled several times and then stopped and went to grazing and I caught him easily. He paid little attention to the couple and I think he realized they were not who he thought. It was rather sad. I have had him three years now and he had gone through quite a few owners being spoiled and mistreated. I am sure he is waiting for someone, or simply thought he knew someone he obviously cared a great deal for. I wonder if anyone has ever done a study of the memory of the horse? Certainly being mistreated leaves a memory. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: BAILEY
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hooray for you adopting the part Fjord. You must have a big heart and I am sure she will prove herself for you. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: strange question
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patti they are selling everything on Ebay.com. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: dead sand
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think what you are talking about is what we call screenings here and it is the best. Ours is not washed hence the dust may come up about a foot as it is heavy. The horses feel really sure of their footing with it. I do not know your figures of quantity but for my 60 by 100 arena it took eight truck loads.Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Fjord type ?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Jaimie re the thyroid answer. I suppose it could just be the result of their terrific over feeding and then founder if it really is lower. My Howdie who tested low was more the sports type and never over weight. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: question re Fjord colors
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting in the remark about the yellow colored eyes. When I was looking for a fjord to replace my Howdy I met Chance who fell for me immediately but I was turned off by his yellowish eyes. A bit like goat eyes. A perfectly fine friendly gentleman who kept nickering to me like we were old friends. I think I made a mistake there. He was a brown dun.Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Fjord type ?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend who has a foundered fjord (1999) just called to say she was thinking of having his thyroid checked as he is shedding etc. I told her I had heard a fjord's thyroid is lower than most other horses. I had had my first fjord's thyroid checked and as it was low the Vet gave me thyroid for him and after two doses he was hyper. It took him three weeks to get back to normal. Is this a problem in anyone's fjords or is it lower or what? Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: arena footing adding salt to the sand?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Once again after trying different footings over the years I have found none better than screenings which comes from crushed rock. The dust in it comes up about a foot and after seven years and some replacing there is not dust. The horses love it and I have never had a horse slide in it. They leave about an inch imprint when walking in it. I do drag it as needed because my horses like to roll or run about in it. I understand that if left out side it can harden but that has not happened here. I have covered over grass to keep mud from paddock entrances and laid out a pattern for riding in the outside pasture and it is still there after seven years. Some areas build up dirt from manure, leaves etc and I have had the tractor scrape it down a bit and then added more screenings.Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Drafty fjords
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well done Phillip and welcome to the group. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #17
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree about Linda posting one or two notices a month re rescues. It is fjord based, I contributed and would like to help in another pinch. I had already suggested this earlier re once or twice and glad others feel the same. Steve would that be too bad on the list? Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Suggestions Wanted when we Move Our Fjord
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve it is nice having you as a conversant and not an absent!!! Wish I had known about that aspirin idea as my big boy would not drink at the shows and also would not urinate until he was back in his trailer and we made leaky sloshy tracks almost all the way home. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: GELDING FOR SALE
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not think I worded that character email very well. Sometimes a horse is just a horse and we do not go deeper to understand his/her character. Which hopefully represents the Fjord character. If we saw a human in there we might have different expectations. Or relate better? Or think we are a bit crazy??? Need another cup of coffee. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Re THE FJORDHORSE HANDBOOK - Chapter 4 17, CHARACTER
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol, I wonder if instead of Gunnar, Lars, Heidi etc we tried to see a person inside our horses. That might help with character? For instance when I talk to Gunnar I am talking to a horse and assuming that is who is in there. Instead, if we know of a person or character in a book that seems to fit our horse then that becomes a more recognizable character It might add depth to our understanding of a fjords reactions? Example: when I talk to Gunnar I chuckle to myself about how obstinate this horse can be. If I knew him as a person I might handle him better knowing his character inherent and why he got this way. Oh well it is Sunday morning and I think I am still in bed yet.Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Communications Concerning Fjord Rescues
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lynda I am very saddened that you are not allowed to continue with the info of rescuing fjords. To me this is as important as discussions on breed, food etc. I think we should have this info available here. Perhaps limited to so many lines or times but just so that we would know when we needed to help the fjords. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: PMU/Jord?Cleanign Feet
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter I have three horses, two anglo/warmbloods and one drafty fjord. I do not ride anymore and find I spend less time with my horses in the winter months. Honestly the thought of picking up mucky cold feet and leaning against mud covered fur in thirty or forty degree weather turns this 77 year old off. And my aching back does not help either. They are fed and brushed on a strict schedule, wormed and Vet called more often than he thinks necessary! But Their feet are picked only when the farrier is coming, if some friend wants to ride or there is a sign of lameness. Hence some problems with Gunnar, fjord, at times re the deep clefts in his hooves. It has only happened twice in three plus years and is immediately stopped by koppertox treatment. Of course it could be prevented by everyday or so cleaning. But I am not ready to give up my kids for a little (ugh my memory is not working this morning) infection in Gunnars hoof. My warmbloods never have problems as they have fairly flat soles and almost no cleft. Charley the big one has shoes on front due to previous farrier problems but the accumulation of sand and mud seems to help his sole rather than cause problems. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: (no subject)
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheryl, I can understand where you are coming from but I think you are taking this all a bit too personally. Not everyone likes the same thing. Some are adamant some are not about their likes. If someone likes quarter horses and I have never wanted one that does not make me dislike their owners or them. The way I see the discussion about crossbreeding is people's fears the breed might be corrupt. I think anyone can have what they want and you point out a perfect reason for having a cross. A crossbred is a horse and if people really love horses they will love a crossbreed as well. Do not take the remarks as aimed at you. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: The President's message
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoa, I take exception to your remarks about the drafty type being hard to ride and hard to find saddles for. My Gunnar is the drafty type and can be ridden all day at a very comfortable trot. Draft nor fat makes a bad ride. His saddle is my dressage Passier with the wide tree used on my 17 hand Trakehner and 16+ hand Holsteiner. I think your statements are a bit broad. No antagonism meant but you are wrong. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Shoes vs barefoot
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brigid, lots of good ideas re the frog situation. I leave the trimming to my farrier and just use koppertox when needed. I admire your ability to do these things yourself. I always have to pay to have it done. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Shoes vs barefoot
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I never shoe Gunnar who has small rock hard healthy feet. He is on pasture only as he is no longer ridden. Only problem has been deep clefts that get some fungus in really wet seasons. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: How NOT to promote Fjords
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda One remark should not a decision make I have people who tell me to this day they think Fjords are grotesque, worthless etc. I was told that when I knew nothing about them. Why should that change me decision as to what I needed? If the person is an expert I might pay more attention but would still do my homework and get what I wanted. Some people are just too easily swayed. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: 5 PMU Mares
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda, certainly these people who are interested in the mares would pay to adopt them. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: hurrying fjords
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] MJ I agree with your description of your young horse. What scares me is grown adults with about 175 plus astride two year olds or three year olds. Plus they have juvenile minds that can be quite cooperative most of the time but their decision making is no different than our teenagers. My point is that when pressure to learn more difficult or tedious tasks, minds of young horses may not be ready. Some poorly trained adults may also balk until they learn to respond willingly. Happy New Year. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: fjord reputation
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janet, re peoples impressions of fjords. When I first got Gunnar the truck man who delivered him was cussing all the way up my long road as Gunnar tried to eat grass, rip off his pockets and generally bully him. Can just hear his impression of muley fjords. Then when the Vet came (have a different one now) who was an impatient man Gunnar did a beautiful airs above the ground trying to kill him. Gunnar did not think anyone should fool with his private parts even though it was an attempt to clean him. And he had been sedated. So that Vet would certainly have bad things to say about Fjords. Now Gunnar is mannerly, it was there all along but had not been required for awhile before I got him. So I think we all have our thoughts about other breeds based on first impressions or the odd horse. I hate the way quarter horses have their heads hanging to the ground. Friesians scare me with their height and fast ways. Arabs are beautiful but not enough bone for me etc. Hopefully no one really accepts those snap judgments. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Question
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Easy there Jean re old wives tales. I remember when I was in Germany that a German shepherd bitch was ruined if she was accidentally bred to a cur or other breed. I laughed at it and got in big trouble. Those old thoughts were pretty ingrained. At least it kept lines pure!!! Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: UEF Non-Profit and Donation Information
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Lynda for the info, have duly entered it for reference. Appreciate your business like approach to these things. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Crossbreeding against Nature or natural?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those hard headed or as we referred to them years ago and in my Dad's Cavalry as mule headed or Roman nosed were considered stubborn and willful!!! You were supposed to avoid them as riding horses. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Cross-breeding, Rescues, Repeat Messages Acorns Again
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here if you are going to be a not for profit group you are given a registration number. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Suggestion to list and NFHR BOD
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the end purpose of this cross breed study? Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Fjord Gelding Wanted
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda, Just one thought about nervous riders. Many well trained horses know that legs pressing on their barrel means move forward. A nervous rider tends to clamp their legs on their horse to hang on and lock their hands so the bit tells the horse whoa. This is confusing for the horse and they get nervous. Sometimes the only way they can respond to this is up. Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: crossbreeding
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563 - Original Message - From: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 12:29 PM Subject: Re: crossbreeding This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:19 AM 12/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: Cross Breeding happens in virtually every country where Fjords are found. The breed almost disappeared in Norway years ago due to cross breeding but was saved by some farmers that didn't like the temperament of the crosses as well as the purebreds. MIke So then Mike we are actually dealing with cross breeds in our fjords in order to get back to a true Fjord horse??? Jean === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
rescue or not
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe a lot of this talk about different ways to handle unwanted horses brings out the differences in people. Differences all the way from the person who can not let anything go and ends up having to be rescued to the person who does not care for animals and can kill easily. We may try to influence people to do it our way but who is right? Anyway alot of this discussion will hopefully lead to some guidelines in rescues. Merry Christmas to all. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Rescue Horses
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have for sometime set aside a large amount of money to take care of my huge Charley (Trakehner). A near by family will take him and my Fjord Gunnar. They have a fjord. I have my Holsteiner mare for sale now, not an easy thing to do but she is twelve and moving out of the good sale range. I am 77 so these are necessary plans.Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: New Member to Fjord List
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the list Linda, I am sure you will not have any trouble finding a safe sane fjord to ride here. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Fjord Colts Update, Phone Call
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lynda you have done extremely well, as have the others in rescuing these horses. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563