Re: RE: Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And translated to seconds and/or minutes the STRBRD trotter trots 1.48=108 seconds for the mile or theoretically 1.04 for the K. These are record numbers and it takes a horse time to reach speed so he could probably not do the first K as fast as 1.04, however I just wanted to point out that the STRBRD time is more than a full minute faster than the time Gjest trotted the K. As STRBRD are bigger and trained to race I am comparing apples to oranges or Fjords to Trotters or whatever. Trotters start the race at a trot not a standing start what about the Fjords in Norway ?As this would make a big difference. Again I just wanted to add prespective to the discussion. I know what our watch said at Waldingfield (however the path on the marathon may have had a downward slope and was clocked after a full trot start both of which would have a positive effect on our time I can't remember the terrain almost 2 years later as I had other things on my mind at the time)and since I in no way believe Marnix is the fastest trotter in NA I stand by my belief that Gjest's record can be beaten. This is the last I will add on this subject. If enough people take Carol and Arthur up on their challenge the numbers will speak for themselves. I look forward to news on the first race. Vivian
RE: Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge
This message is from: "Werner, Kristine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Check that - I am sure that the mile is even greater than 1.2 KM. > -Original Message- > From: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 1999 14:22 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge > > This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At 08:15 AM 2/4/99 -0500, you wrote: > >This message is from: "Werner, Kristine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >A mile is a greater distance than a kilometer. 1 Mile equals roughly 2 > >Kilometers. > >If the pacer trots the mile in 1.41, then he/she trots approximately 2 KM > at > >that speed as well - > >the Standardbred needs about 1.48. At least that is how I understood it > :o) > > > > Well that is a close approximation. There are actually 1.2 km per mile. > When they are measuring in hundredths of a minute I think the .2 is pretty > important. > > > > === > > Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry > Mike May, Registrar > Voice 716-872-4114 > FAX 716-787-0497 > > http://www.nfhr.com > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:15 AM 2/4/99 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: "Werner, Kristine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >A mile is a greater distance than a kilometer. 1 Mile equals roughly 2 >Kilometers. >If the pacer trots the mile in 1.41, then he/she trots approximately 2 KM at >that speed as well - >the Standardbred needs about 1.48. At least that is how I understood it :o) > Well that is a close approximation. There are actually 1.2 km per mile. When they are measuring in hundredths of a minute I think the .2 is pretty important. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge
This message is from: "Werner, Kristine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A mile is a greater distance than a kilometer. 1 Mile equals roughly 2 Kilometers. If the pacer trots the mile in 1.41, then he/she trots approximately 2 KM at that speed as well - the Standardbred needs about 1.48. At least that is how I understood it :o) Kristine in Frankfurt > -Original Message- > From: Mike May [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 1999 13:45 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge > > This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At 05:34 PM 2/3/99 -0500, you wrote: > >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Just thought you might be interested: The record for the MILE by a STBRD > pacer > >is 1.41 and for a STBRD trotter is 1.48. > > > So keeping Apples - Apples or km to km's then my calculator shows that the > 1.41 for the MILE is really .846 for the km. And 1.48 = .888 for the km. > >
Re: Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 05:34 PM 2/3/99 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Just thought you might be interested: The record for the MILE by a STBRD pacer >is 1.41 and for a STBRD trotter is 1.48. So keeping Apples - Apples or km to km's then my calculator shows that the 1.41 for the MILE is really .846 for the km. And 1.48 = .888 for the km.
Re: Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't forget a kilometer is approx 5/8th of a mile. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, Wa where another rain and wind storm is about to hit us hard. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Just thought you might be interested: The record for the MILE by a STBRD pacer >is 1.41 and for a STBRD trotter is 1.48.
Re: Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just thought you might be interested: The record for the MILE by a STBRD pacer is 1.41 and for a STBRD trotter is 1.48.
Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay people let's put this in better perspective. Firstly I wrote that Marnix had gone a K in 1.57 not as you posted 1.49, but given the fact that a kilometer is a little over half a mile, A kilometer is .6 of a mile to be exact, and a human being can run the mile in under 4 minutes My post was meant to illustrate that 2.12 wasn't that incredibly fast for a horse. My daughters 11H Welsh pony can trot a K in under 3minutes. It has always been my understanding that the trotting "race" for stallions in Norway was to determine wether or not they could trot the K in under 3 minutes. Maybe I'm wrong about this. I was in no way was implying that Marnix was the fastest trotting Fjord in the world. Personally I couldn't care less as long as we make our times on a Combined Driving marathon. However, yes, Carol you and Arthur could spend alot of money on trophies. I'm sure Gjest was capable and may still be of beating his 2.12 record many times over. Sorry if you misunderstood the intent of my post. Vivian
Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol, Can we assume that the timed 1K was from a standing start? Bill Coli
Re: Re: The North American Gjest Challenge
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol:At Waldingfield in 1997, my first CDE (actually Horse Trial) with Marnix because of his atrocious behaviour and equipment problems as a result we were almost 2 minutes late to the start of the marathon. They started the clock at the time we were supposed to start as they could hear me yelling on the way down the road that we were indeed coming. In order to let him blow off some of his steam and also make up for the lost time on the clock I just let him trot as fast as he wanted to start. Wesley clocked him at 1minute 57seconds for the first Kilometer. Needless to say we made up the time lost since we should have been doing 4:20 per K. Ofcourse this wasn't an oval track we were put to a marathon vehicle of substantial weight on uneven terrain. I'm quite satisfied that there are certainly other Fjords capable of beating 2:12. Although I'm not particularly interested in playing I say let the Games begin. At Advanced you're required to trot the C sec. at 17KPH. Very close to the speed you're talking about and this is after Sections A & C. Vivian Creigh
