Re: Diatomaceous Earth
This message is from: jerrell friz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Kate, and others, I first learned about DE 12 or so years ago. The vit./supplement company, Dynamite, uses it in some of their supplements. In fact, I am using it in the house right now. Yesterday, we were invaded my a tiny ant, millions of them. So I sprinkled some of the fine power,[ it looks like talc power] on their runs. Now after about 18 hours, most are gone and a lot of dead ones can be seem. It is safe around pets, but be careful, do not inhale, or get in the eyes. It is like very, small bits of glass. I used to feed it to the horses, and dogs, but did not see where it did any good. Any time I see any kind of an ant on the ground, or going up and down our Oak trees, I just sprinkle some on their run, usually within a day or so, they are gone. There is a very large deposit of it here in N. CA., probably, supplies the world. It's only a 100 miles East of us. I always get a bucket full when I go that way. The highway cuts through the mountain. You can buy it at the pool stores, [very cheap] as it is used in the water filters. It is good for flies on the manure piles also. Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:04 PM Subject: Diatomaceous Earth This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _http://www.perma-guard.com/_ (http://www.perma-guard.com/) PERMA-GUARD is the trade name for a grade and quality of Diatomaceous Earth (DE). Actually, DE is not an earth. It is the fossilized remains of microscopic shells created by one celled plants called DIATOMS. When insects come in contact with DE, their shell is worn through and death is by dehydration. There is no survival and no immunity. My barn owner started using this in the barn and around the trash bins and manure piles - I am amazed at the effectiveness. Does anyone have any experience using this? Kate For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Diatomaceous Earth
This message is from: Linda Bain [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have used DE this year successfully to treat my 6 dogs for scabies after we had a visiting fox. Tried all the usual veterinary treatments which only gave temporary relief. I tried the DE out of desperation to cure my dogs of scabies and after the first treatment, the house and their bedding, they were not bothered again. I would definately recommend it. Linda Bain Sweden On Jul 8, 2007, at 9:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _http://www.perma-guard.com/_ (http://www.perma-guard.com/) PERMA-GUARD is the trade name for a grade and quality of Diatomaceous Earth (DE). Actually, DE is not an earth. It is the fossilized remains of microscopic shells created by one celled plants called DIATOMS. When insects come in contact with DE, their shell is worn through and death is by dehydration. There is no survival and no immunity. My barn owner started using this in the barn and around the trash bins and manure piles - I am amazed at the effectiveness. Does anyone have any experience using this? Kate ** See what's free at http:// www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: diatomaceous earth
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i, too, have used this on manure (before the chickens did such a good job) and in feed to help with worming. i think, however, that if you are going to use it as a food supplement, you need to get the food grade stuff. the garden variety, for use in the pool, etc., is not made for ingestion. laurie ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Diatomaceous Earth
This message is from: Cynthia Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just started feeding DE to my horses and my new boarding horse last week. I bought a 50 lb. bag for around $35. I think it will last for the summer! I mix it in with their beet pulp and there is no palatibility problem. Days here right now are around 75-80 degrees and nights around 40 so flies are just beginning to develop. So far, I've seen more around my house than in the corrals. I'll keep you all posted. I am giving them the recommended daily 5 oz. but splitting it into their am and pm feedings. My question is: should I just give them one 5 oz. feeding or continue to split it or do I need to be giving them two 5 oz. feedings a day?(the last is not my preference) I will contact the web site Mike gave us and ask this question also. (Thanks, Mike!). = Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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This message is from: Cynthia Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am afraid to use the wasps because all my facilities are open and we have almost a constant wind that will just blow the tiny insects away. This year, for the first time, I am going to try diatomaceous earth. I can buy it in 50 lbs. bags. I will just add it to their beet pulp. Below are instructions for using it from CD-L member, Satin. You buy FOOD grade and not the agricultural stuff. Feed 5 oz a day (I guesstimate by using a Strongid C2X measuring cup, full and rounded, in each feeding) and you feed it wet to keep them from breathing it. If anyone has any other ideas about using it or quantity to feed, I would be glad to hear them. BTW, Tank and I leave next Thursday for the AZ CDE. I think we are as ready as possible. We have been doing some good dressage work lately and he trotted for me for 38 minutes witout undue stress on Wednesday(we are doing the limited division). My only concern is Tank's lack of forwardness without constant encouragement. I am using sports pyschology on him and call him Champ all the time. = Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com
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This message is from: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Diatomaceous earth has been discussed to death on the CD-L (carriage driving list), and if you go to the CD-L web page, you can find the archives. As I recall it came down to there being good DE and bad DE, and you need to buy the former. Seems to me bad DE was what you would buy from a pool supply. Anyway, there's lots there to read for anyone interested.
Re: Diatomaceous Earth
This message is from: Alison Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] A while ago, Steve McIlree asked me if I would comment on use of DE for fly control, so here goes. DE is basically the skeletons of ancient marine animals (diatoms) which died and were deposited in layers on the floors of ancient oceans. It has many uses. For example, we use food grade DE to filter maple sap as part of our maple sugaring operation. I also will deposit a small ring of DE around seedlings that I set out in our gareden since I have a known problem with cutworms. Because the DE is sharp and abrasive, any soft bodied organisms that try to crawl over it are cut up, and die. Because of this mode of action, DE has been suggested as an organic worm medicine, with the idea being to feed it to your animal, wherein it would chew up any parasite or parasite eggs in their intestine. A long time ago I tried to find studies that would document controlled trials ( i.e., DE fed to some animals but not to others with both sets initially having similar worm loads) to show that this actually was the case (Sorry, but we scientist types are not comfortable with I tried it and it worked anecdotal evidence.) I was able to find only one study which, in my opinion was poorly done, and which did not show efficacy. Perhaps our Vet. list members can tell us if they are aware of any such studies, or could comment on whether ingestion might be valuable or harmful to animals (ruminants or otherwise). I don't know anything on this subject, but wouldn't it also chew up the digestive system?
Diatomaceous Earth
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Approved HjerteBarn From: William M. Coli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Diatomaceous Earth Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:24:14 A while ago, Steve McIlree asked me if I would comment on use of DE for fly control, so here goes. DE is basically the skeletons of ancient marine animals (diatoms) which died and were deposited in layers on the floors of ancient oceans. It has many uses. For example, we use food grade DE to filter maple sap as part of our maple sugaring operation. I also will deposit a small ring of DE around seedlings that I set out in our gareden since I have a known problem with cutworms. Because the DE is sharp and abrasive, any soft bodied organisms that try to crawl over it are cut up, and die. Because of this mode of action, DE has been suggested as an organic worm medicine, with the idea being to feed it to your animal, wherein it would chew up any parasite or parasite eggs in their intestine. A long time ago I tried to find studies that would document controlled trials ( i.e., DE fed to some animals but not to others with both sets initially having similar worm loads) to show that this actually was the case (Sorry, but we scientist types are not comfortable with I tried it and it worked anecdotal evidence.) I was able to find only one study which, in my opinion was poorly done, and which did not show efficacy. Perhaps our Vet. list members can tell us if they are aware of any such studies, or could comment on whether ingestion might be valuable or harmful to animals (ruminants or otherwise). As a potential fly control, it would seem that you'd need to feed an awful lot of it to have enough present in the manure to cut up fly larvae. Another reason I would not suggest it be used on any scale is that it is very non-selective in its action. That is, any DE that comes out the south end of a horse undigested could do serious damage to earthworms which are drawn to manure. Hope this is useful. I am open to hearing from others who have a different perspective (hopefully supported by experimental evidence). --- William M. ColiPhone: 413-545-1051 Extension Educator FAX: 413-545-5858 IPM Program CoordinatorEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dept. Of Entomology UMASS Amherst MA 01003 Lettin' the cat outta the bag's a whole lot easier than puttin' it back in From: The Cowboy's Guide to life, T.B. Bender
