Re: Fjords and Parelli

1999-10-11 Thread Heyvaert
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I, too, have contemplated starting the seven games with Major, our Fjord, but 
just due to time, have not.  We have a very good friend who is working on 
level ?3 and spent 3 weeks in Co this summer at his place.  I will ask her 
what she recommends for this type of horse -- and use Major as an example 
since she saw him at the last show and knows his temperament.  I'll let you 
know!
Susan



Re: Fjords and Parelli

1999-10-11 Thread TAVINC70
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Hi,
I am currently using the Parelli method, primarily the seven games, with my 
gelding.  At first things didn't seem to phase him and he was indifferent to 
some pressure points, but now he's got the hang of things and it's fun.  I 
just practiced with him consistently each time before I ride we run through 
several of them.  I am a firm believer in the method and it's definitely 
taught me a few things.  Good Luck.

Tracy and NORMAN in Sunny and Cool Indiana.  We have had some really gorgeous 
fall weather:o)



Re: Fjords and Parelli

1999-10-10 Thread Jean Gayle
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Gail, I got a kick out of the broom bit.  I had to sneak around when picking
manure with the pitchfork.  Howdie would come running whenever he saw the
fork to get "itched".  Made a pest of himself.



Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
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Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
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Re: Fjords and Parelli

1999-10-09 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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 Waving the stick
>around her head just makes her look a little askance, but not a flicker of
>concern or understanding that she needs to do anything about it.  Ditto for
>trying to get her to drop her head or lift her feet when you squeeze her
>hock.   


I have one Fjord that Parelli type stuff works with pretty well.  He is
spooky and sensitive - like the hotter blooded breeds.  However my other two
Fjords have a more mule-like personality.  I can *literally* beat my five
month old colt with a push broom - and he *likes it.*  (I guess something
really itches somewhere - sometimes I brush him with a 20" wide push broom -
just for fun. :)  I believe the best approach with the "mule/Fjords is a
combination of Parelli/Lyons/Dorrance/Hunt training - but with positive
reinforcements of food - and "good efforts" marked by a "click."  That way
you don't have to beat them up to get a response - food rewards being *very
important* to them.  

Mugging does not need to be a problem if you stop all outside treats and
train the mugging away. (Mugging will happen - so once you start you have to
be committed to spending "the time it takes" to train it away.) Today I held
an apple in one hand and a lead rope that I wanted touched by a horsey nose
in the other.  Both within reach of the horse.  When he reached for the
apple, I simply backed away (he was confined in a trailer, with head out the
window of the slant load).  When he reached to touch the lead rope, (and did
touch it), he got a click and an apple.  Pretty soon he didn't care at all
about reaching for the apple. 

And yes, get the Parelli video.  Then train the tasks using the clicker and
Parelli's cues.  The clicker list can help you figure it out.  There are
several people doing the Parelli "levels" on the list.  One of the more
impressive success stories was a horse trained to walk thru smoke and
firecrackers for the Sheriff's Search and Rescue.  Apparently the Sheriff
was so impressed they asked how the horse had been trained.   
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Clicker List Web Site : http://clickryder.cjb.net



Re: Fjords and Parelli

1999-10-09 Thread Cheryl Beillard
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Hello all .. I have a question for any of you out there who have introduced
their fjords to the Parelli method of training .. I just came back from my
first day at a level 1 clinic .. absolutely amazing to see a dozen agitated
warmbloods and arabs, etc. change in just a few hours to something
resembling fjords in temperment.   However, when I came home - of course I
decided to try out a little of what I had seen.  Here's the rub (no pun
intended) .. unlike the horses I watched all day who backed away from the
stick and who seemed to respond almost immediately to a very light pressure
anywhere, my 13 yr old mare, who can be headstrong but does not shy at
machinery, cars, grouse, deer, etc -- seems totally indifferent to pressure
on her nose, to move back, or anywhere else .. she just doesn't react.  If
anything, she comes toward me rather than moving away.  Waving the stick
around her head just makes her look a little askance, but not a flicker of
concern or understanding that she needs to do anything about it.  Ditto for
trying to get her to drop her head or lift her feet when you squeeze her
hock.   I know I haven't even begun to start learning how to do this
properly, but when she has no reaction at all, I wonder how agitated I have
to become to get her to pay attention.  She just stands there, patiently
waiting
to see what it is I want .. or else totally indifferent!  I remember someone
on the list recommending the 7 games video so I assume there must be lots of
more responsive fjords .. and it must be me!  Any comments, clues/advice ..?
I'm very sorry I opted not to enroll her in the clinic as I would dearly
love to see what a level 3 Parelli trainer would do with the non-reactive
horse.