Re: Fjords and Parelli
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I, too, have contemplated starting the seven games with Major, our Fjord, but just due to time, have not. We have a very good friend who is working on level ?3 and spent 3 weeks in Co this summer at his place. I will ask her what she recommends for this type of horse -- and use Major as an example since she saw him at the last show and knows his temperament. I'll let you know! Susan
Re: Fjords and Parelli
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am currently using the Parelli method, primarily the seven games, with my gelding. At first things didn't seem to phase him and he was indifferent to some pressure points, but now he's got the hang of things and it's fun. I just practiced with him consistently each time before I ride we run through several of them. I am a firm believer in the method and it's definitely taught me a few things. Good Luck. Tracy and NORMAN in Sunny and Cool Indiana. We have had some really gorgeous fall weather:o)
Re: Fjords and Parelli
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gail, I got a kick out of the broom bit. I had to sneak around when picking manure with the pitchfork. Howdie would come running whenever he saw the fork to get "itched". Made a pest of himself. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: Fjords and Parelli
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Waving the stick >around her head just makes her look a little askance, but not a flicker of >concern or understanding that she needs to do anything about it. Ditto for >trying to get her to drop her head or lift her feet when you squeeze her >hock. I have one Fjord that Parelli type stuff works with pretty well. He is spooky and sensitive - like the hotter blooded breeds. However my other two Fjords have a more mule-like personality. I can *literally* beat my five month old colt with a push broom - and he *likes it.* (I guess something really itches somewhere - sometimes I brush him with a 20" wide push broom - just for fun. :) I believe the best approach with the "mule/Fjords is a combination of Parelli/Lyons/Dorrance/Hunt training - but with positive reinforcements of food - and "good efforts" marked by a "click." That way you don't have to beat them up to get a response - food rewards being *very important* to them. Mugging does not need to be a problem if you stop all outside treats and train the mugging away. (Mugging will happen - so once you start you have to be committed to spending "the time it takes" to train it away.) Today I held an apple in one hand and a lead rope that I wanted touched by a horsey nose in the other. Both within reach of the horse. When he reached for the apple, I simply backed away (he was confined in a trailer, with head out the window of the slant load). When he reached to touch the lead rope, (and did touch it), he got a click and an apple. Pretty soon he didn't care at all about reaching for the apple. And yes, get the Parelli video. Then train the tasks using the clicker and Parelli's cues. The clicker list can help you figure it out. There are several people doing the Parelli "levels" on the list. One of the more impressive success stories was a horse trained to walk thru smoke and firecrackers for the Sheriff's Search and Rescue. Apparently the Sheriff was so impressed they asked how the horse had been trained. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clicker List Web Site : http://clickryder.cjb.net
Re: Fjords and Parelli
This message is from: "Cheryl Beillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello all .. I have a question for any of you out there who have introduced their fjords to the Parelli method of training .. I just came back from my first day at a level 1 clinic .. absolutely amazing to see a dozen agitated warmbloods and arabs, etc. change in just a few hours to something resembling fjords in temperment. However, when I came home - of course I decided to try out a little of what I had seen. Here's the rub (no pun intended) .. unlike the horses I watched all day who backed away from the stick and who seemed to respond almost immediately to a very light pressure anywhere, my 13 yr old mare, who can be headstrong but does not shy at machinery, cars, grouse, deer, etc -- seems totally indifferent to pressure on her nose, to move back, or anywhere else .. she just doesn't react. If anything, she comes toward me rather than moving away. Waving the stick around her head just makes her look a little askance, but not a flicker of concern or understanding that she needs to do anything about it. Ditto for trying to get her to drop her head or lift her feet when you squeeze her hock. I know I haven't even begun to start learning how to do this properly, but when she has no reaction at all, I wonder how agitated I have to become to get her to pay attention. She just stands there, patiently waiting to see what it is I want .. or else totally indifferent! I remember someone on the list recommending the 7 games video so I assume there must be lots of more responsive fjords .. and it must be me! Any comments, clues/advice ..? I'm very sorry I opted not to enroll her in the clinic as I would dearly love to see what a level 3 Parelli trainer would do with the non-reactive horse.