Re: KK Schooling bit
This message is from: Alison Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] GAIL RUSSELL wrote: Jean, Gunthar must have bigger bones AND a filthier sheath than every other Fjord! :) The 5 5/8 snaffle I got for him is just barely big enought (I know no one makes a 5 5/8 bit - bit this one is - I measured every snaffle in the tack shop - meticulously.). The 5 3/4 Glory Bit was still a bit snug. Finally had to get a 6 inch Glory bit, although I think a 5 3/4 snaffle loose ring or egg butt snaffle might do. Would be interested in other's experiences with bits. Gunthar, like Jean's Bjorken, appears to have very little space in that mouth for anything that is not food! Fj takes a 6 inch bit (tightly, if it is loose ring, he needs 6 1/4. his nose is probably his worst conformation fault) and what I do is order his bits from germany. they make 6 1/4 inch bridoons (a loose ring snaffle that's a litte thinner and with smaller rings) for those big dressage horses, but they only come in german silver. It's a little bit more expencive, but I could'nt find anything bigger in any of the catalogs that our tack store carries. Question,what is a KK bit, exactly? I think this was discussed before, but I never got a clear image of what it was. Is it just a french link, ir is the centre link raised, liks a dr. bristol, or is it just a linked bit, like a deformed ring in the middle? Also, is there anything that makes this bis better than the rest?
Re: KK Schooling bit
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Jean says:At 01:56 PM 4/22/98 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] The french mouth bits usually have a center piece that's too long in the 5 1/2 inch, (they make up the size by making the center peice longer!) So here I go, yet another bit to try. BTW Somewhere I have a 23 mm 5 1/2 KK bit that I will sell (if I can find it) It's too fat. I also have a pair of 5 1/2 Buxton driving bits with the bar on the bottom of the shanks for pair work, as well as a couple of 5 1/2 liverpool bits. Jean, Gunthar must have bigger bones AND a filthier sheath than every other Fjord! :) The 5 5/8 snaffle I got for him is just barely big enought (I know no one makes a 5 5/8 bit - bit this one is - I measured every snaffle in the tack shop - meticulously.). The 5 3/4 Glory Bit was still a bit snug. Finally had to get a 6 inch Glory bit, although I think a 5 3/4 snaffle loose ring or egg butt snaffle might do. Would be interested in other's experiences with bits. Gunthar, like Jean's Bjorken, appears to have very little space in that mouth for anything that is not food! Gail Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KK Schooling bit
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am thinking about getting a KK bit for riding. snip And if you use a KK, which one to you recommend - schooling or training bit? snip I don't know what a schooling bit looks like, as I don't have a catalogue in front of me which carries the KK schooling bit. I just got a KK schooling bit from Libertyville to try on my big Fjord Gelding, Bjorken. It has a solid mouth shaped to fit, like the KK curb sort of, and egg butt rings. Bjorken goes pretty well in the mullen mouth Glory butterfly bit (I ride mostly on the snaffle setting), but opens his mouth in an ordinary two piece snaffle when I'm trying to ride on contact doing dressage stuff, and sometimes gets his tongue over the bar of the Glory bit when I use that on firm contact, so I have concluded that he has a thick tongue and low pallet also. My Instructor tends to poo poo this, and just cranks the flash tighter and put the bit higher in his mouth. As much as I respect her knowledge and experience, I still think he is opening his mouth because he is getting poked in the pallet and the Glory mouthpiece, as curved as it is, still does not allow enough room for his tongue. When I tried the KK schooling bit on he was instantly comfortable and could even easily chew a carrot, his tongue had freedom. Now to see if he just runs through it, or responds better to it than the others. Bjorken has fleshy lips and loose ring bits tend to pinch, so I'd ideally like the 14mm KK training bit in an eggbutt, but I have never seen one. The french mouth bits usually have a center piece that's too long in the 5 1/2 inch, (they make up the size by making the center peice longer!) So here I go, yet another bit to try. BTW Somewhere I have a 23 mm 5 1/2 KK bit that I will sell (if I can find it) It's too fat. I also have a pair of 5 1/2 Buxton driving bits with the bar on the bottom of the shanks for pair work, as well as a couple of 5 1/2 liverpool bits. All are Stainless steel and never used. WILL SELL REASONABLE. I mostly use the Glory Blutterfly driving bits for riding and driving, even my dressage lesson. Jean in sunny and warm Fairbanks, Alaska. Fjord hair EVERYWHERE! ** Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
