Re: hang on

2009-10-07 Thread coy...@acrec.com

This message is from: coy...@acrec.com coy...@acrec.com

On the same note, if you are riding through water and your horse starts 
to splash with a front hoof, encourage the horse IMMEDIATELY to move on.


Your horse is getting ready to lay down and get you, your expensive 
saddle, and said horse very, very wet -- at the very least. If your foot 
or leg gets trapped and you go under water, the consequences could be 
even more disastrous.


If you've never encountered this before, it can be tempting to just sit 
there and think, Awww, that's cute as the water droplets go flying in 
the sunlight. DON'T! If your horse starts to get weak in the knees to 
lie down, it may be too late to prevent a dunking.


--DeeAnna

For the rolling in sand while you are on board ? Use a crop. Spurs. 
A bat. Its a bad habit, but a habit only


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RE: hang on- thanks DeeAnna

2009-10-07 Thread laura fisher
This message is from: laura fisher laura_fishe...@hotmail.com

Dear DeeAnna,

Thank you for helping me the other day with saddle wither padding problems. I
think I am on the way to solving it.

About the conversation on rolling horses and unwanted baths:

 I also had the unfortunate experience of being almost rolled on. I dragged my
leg out from under him in time with my riding friends screaming-get out of
there! get out! he's going to roll over you! amongst other things.

Unfortunately I do not live close to any trainers. Trail riding is very
different than ring riding, I think anyway... I wish I had support of this
forum when I was working with my Morgan now that I am faced with trails later
in life. ( I trail rode all the time in my thirties-different horse) I might
have been able to overcome my fears as we could work it out together.

I guess, like  marriages, sometimes too many tears and feelings of failure (
and fear) can kill a relationship.

I recognize that if I had had help in the beginning with this horse I could
have overcome it. But now I just can't and don't want to. (with my Morgan)

 It is people like you ( and the forum) that can mean so much. ( I have
experienced the water trick, also. )

Thanks, and have a good day/night!

Laura

 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:34:47 -0500
 From: coy...@acrec.com
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 Subject: Re: hang on

 This message is from: coy...@acrec.com coy...@acrec.com

 On the same note, if you are riding through water and your horse starts
 to splash with a front hoof, encourage the horse IMMEDIATELY to move on.

 Your horse is getting ready to lay down and get you, your expensive
 saddle, and said horse very, very wet -- at the very least. If your foot
 or leg gets trapped and you go under water, the consequences could be
 even more disastrous.

 If you've never encountered this before, it can be tempting to just sit
 there and think, Awww, that's cute as the water droplets go flying in
 the sunlight. DON'T! If your horse starts to get weak in the knees to
 lie down, it may be too late to prevent a dunking.

 --DeeAnna

  For the rolling in sand while you are on board ? Use a crop. Spurs.
  A bat. Its a bad habit, but a habit only

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Re: hang on

2009-10-07 Thread jerry friz

This message is from: jerry friz jf...@com-pair.net

Yes, this is a very important message, most all horses will try this on the 
first couple of trail rides, DO NOT LET THIS DEVELOPE.  [it is not cute]

Jerry Friz,
Anderson, Ca.
--

On the same note, if you are riding through water and your horse starts
to splash with a front hoof, encourage the horse IMMEDIATELY to move on.

Your horse is getting ready to lay down and get you, your expensive
saddle, and said horse very, very wet -- at the very least. If your foot
or leg gets trapped and you go under water, the consequences could be
even more disastrous.

If you've never encountered this before, it can be tempting to just sit
there and think, Awww, that's cute as the water droplets go flying in
the sunlight. DON'T! If your horse starts to get weak in the knees to
lie down, it may be too late to prevent a dunking.

--DeeAnna


For the rolling in sand while you are on board ? Use a crop. Spurs.
A bat. Its a bad habit, but a habit only


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RE: Re: hang on

2009-10-07 Thread plumg...@pon.net
This message is from: plumg...@pon.net plumg...@pon.net

I cannot figure out why a horse would want to go down in a shallow creek with
rocks all over the streambed.  Seems like they should know it would hurt their
backs?

Gail

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Re: Re: hang on

2009-10-07 Thread ruth bushnell

This message is from: ruth bushnell fjo...@frontiernet.net


This message is from: plumg...@pon.net 
I cannot figure out why a horse would want to go down in a shallow creek 
with
rocks all over the streambed.  Seems like they should know it would hurt 
their

backs?

Gail



RIGHT, GAIL, in all my year's of horse experience, in the outback,
I have never known of a horse that wanted to get down
in a stream, I don't believe that's why they strike the water with their
hooves.

Ruthie, nw mt, US 


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RE: hang on

2009-10-07 Thread laura fisher
This message is from: laura fisher laura_fishe...@hotmail.com

...we were crossing a wide stream on a hot day- and my friends swore- no
kidding- that my horse just wanted to cool off... he just had that look of it.
The moment he remembered I was on his back he scrambled to his feet and it was
a good thing for us to all laugh about. i only got wet up to my knees.saddle
was fine :)

 From: fjo...@frontiernet.net
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 Subject: Re: Re: hang on
 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:11:34 -0600

 This message is from: ruth bushnell fjo...@frontiernet.net

  This message is from: plumg...@pon.net 
  I cannot figure out why a horse would want to go down in a shallow creek
  with
  rocks all over the streambed. Seems like they should know it would hurt
  their
  backs?
 
  Gail
 

 RIGHT, GAIL, in all my year's of horse experience, in the outback,
 I have never known of a horse that wanted to get down
 in a stream, I don't believe that's why they strike the water with their
 hooves.

 Ruthie, nw mt, US

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Re: hang on

2009-10-07 Thread coy...@acrec.com

This message is from: coy...@acrec.com coy...@acrec.com

plumg...@pon.net wrote:

I cannot figure out why a horse would want to go down in a shallow creek with
rocks all over the streambed


Well, I can't figure it out either, Gail, but the fact remains that it 
happens. I have personally seen it happen to other riders several times 
and almost had it happen to me once.


In EVERY case in my personal experience, the horse DID strike the water 
several times with a front hoof shortly before attempting to lie down. I 
do not mean to say they ALWAYS paw before lying down, but in my 
experience, the pawing is strongly linked to lying down in the water.


On the same note, I ~occasionally~ see the same pawing behavior right 
before a horse lies down in the pasture. Even though it does not happen 
every time on land, it happens often enough on water and on land that I 
associate this pawing with the act of lying down.


In the cases I can attest to, one was a small solid-granite pool up in 
the west Texas hills, water depth of about a foot. The rider had stopped 
to let his horse drink. When the horse had his fill, he started to paw. 
I warned the rider to get his horse moving, but he didn't react fast 
enough. After pawing several times, the horse calmly laid down in the 
water. The rider got a foot briefly trapped under the horse and came out 
of it with some good bruises. The horse got several abrasions and cuts 
on its legs as it struggled to get up on the slippery rocks.


The other two times I have experienced this behavior were in the Yellow 
River here in northeastern Iowa. It has a rocky limestone bottom, the 
depth ranges from 12 to 24, and the width ranges from 100 to 200 feet. 
Same basic story as the Texas incident, but no injuries to the riders or 
horses either time, thank goodness.


And some years ago my mare Sissel, after taking a drink on a hot day, 
started to paw and get weak in the knees. Thankfully, I got her moving 
across the river again before she went down. Once they get moving, their 
sinking spell seems to evaporate and they're fine.


--DeeAnna

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RE: hang on

2009-10-07 Thread laura fisher
This message is from: laura fisher laura_fishe...@hotmail.com

I had a horse that would itch his face on its knees-  and then go down. I
was told to always watch out for the itch and lift the reins and kick him
forward immediately

 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 22:14:20 -0500
 From: coy...@acrec.com
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 Subject: Re: hang on

 This message is from: coy...@acrec.com coy...@acrec.com

 plumg...@pon.net wrote:
  I cannot figure out why a horse would want to go down in a shallow creek
with
  rocks all over the streambed

 Well, I can't figure it out either, Gail, but the fact remains that it
 happens. I have personally seen it happen to other riders several times
 and almost had it happen to me once.

 In EVERY case in my personal experience, the horse DID strike the water
 several times with a front hoof shortly before attempting to lie down. I
 do not mean to say they ALWAYS paw before lying down, but in my
 experience, the pawing is strongly linked to lying down in the water.

 On the same note, I ~occasionally~ see the same pawing behavior right
 before a horse lies down in the pasture. Even though it does not happen
 every time on land, it happens often enough on water and on land that I
 associate this pawing with the act of lying down.

 In the cases I can attest to, one was a small solid-granite pool up in
 the west Texas hills, water depth of about a foot. The rider had stopped
 to let his horse drink. When the horse had his fill, he started to paw.
 I warned the rider to get his horse moving, but he didn't react fast
 enough. After pawing several times, the horse calmly laid down in the
 water. The rider got a foot briefly trapped under the horse and came out
 of it with some good bruises. The horse got several abrasions and cuts
 on its legs as it struggled to get up on the slippery rocks.

 The other two times I have experienced this behavior were in the Yellow
 River here in northeastern Iowa. It has a rocky limestone bottom, the
 depth ranges from 12 to 24, and the width ranges from 100 to 200 feet.
 Same basic story as the Texas incident, but no injuries to the riders or
 horses either time, thank goodness.

 And some years ago my mare Sissel, after taking a drink on a hot day,
 started to paw and get weak in the knees. Thankfully, I got her moving
 across the river again before she went down. Once they get moving, their
 sinking spell seems to evaporate and they're fine.

 --DeeAnna

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