Re: hang on
This message is from: coy...@acrec.com coy...@acrec.com On the same note, if you are riding through water and your horse starts to splash with a front hoof, encourage the horse IMMEDIATELY to move on. Your horse is getting ready to lay down and get you, your expensive saddle, and said horse very, very wet -- at the very least. If your foot or leg gets trapped and you go under water, the consequences could be even more disastrous. If you've never encountered this before, it can be tempting to just sit there and think, Awww, that's cute as the water droplets go flying in the sunlight. DON'T! If your horse starts to get weak in the knees to lie down, it may be too late to prevent a dunking. --DeeAnna For the rolling in sand while you are on board ? Use a crop. Spurs. A bat. Its a bad habit, but a habit only Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: hang on- thanks DeeAnna
This message is from: laura fisher laura_fishe...@hotmail.com Dear DeeAnna, Thank you for helping me the other day with saddle wither padding problems. I think I am on the way to solving it. About the conversation on rolling horses and unwanted baths: I also had the unfortunate experience of being almost rolled on. I dragged my leg out from under him in time with my riding friends screaming-get out of there! get out! he's going to roll over you! amongst other things. Unfortunately I do not live close to any trainers. Trail riding is very different than ring riding, I think anyway... I wish I had support of this forum when I was working with my Morgan now that I am faced with trails later in life. ( I trail rode all the time in my thirties-different horse) I might have been able to overcome my fears as we could work it out together. I guess, like marriages, sometimes too many tears and feelings of failure ( and fear) can kill a relationship. I recognize that if I had had help in the beginning with this horse I could have overcome it. But now I just can't and don't want to. (with my Morgan) It is people like you ( and the forum) that can mean so much. ( I have experienced the water trick, also. ) Thanks, and have a good day/night! Laura Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:34:47 -0500 From: coy...@acrec.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: hang on This message is from: coy...@acrec.com coy...@acrec.com On the same note, if you are riding through water and your horse starts to splash with a front hoof, encourage the horse IMMEDIATELY to move on. Your horse is getting ready to lay down and get you, your expensive saddle, and said horse very, very wet -- at the very least. If your foot or leg gets trapped and you go under water, the consequences could be even more disastrous. If you've never encountered this before, it can be tempting to just sit there and think, Awww, that's cute as the water droplets go flying in the sunlight. DON'T! If your horse starts to get weak in the knees to lie down, it may be too late to prevent a dunking. --DeeAnna For the rolling in sand while you are on board ? Use a crop. Spurs. A bat. Its a bad habit, but a habit only Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: hang on
This message is from: jerry friz jf...@com-pair.net Yes, this is a very important message, most all horses will try this on the first couple of trail rides, DO NOT LET THIS DEVELOPE. [it is not cute] Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca. -- On the same note, if you are riding through water and your horse starts to splash with a front hoof, encourage the horse IMMEDIATELY to move on. Your horse is getting ready to lay down and get you, your expensive saddle, and said horse very, very wet -- at the very least. If your foot or leg gets trapped and you go under water, the consequences could be even more disastrous. If you've never encountered this before, it can be tempting to just sit there and think, Awww, that's cute as the water droplets go flying in the sunlight. DON'T! If your horse starts to get weak in the knees to lie down, it may be too late to prevent a dunking. --DeeAnna For the rolling in sand while you are on board ? Use a crop. Spurs. A bat. Its a bad habit, but a habit only Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f 05:18:00 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Re: hang on
This message is from: plumg...@pon.net plumg...@pon.net I cannot figure out why a horse would want to go down in a shallow creek with rocks all over the streambed. Seems like they should know it would hurt their backs? Gail Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Re: hang on
This message is from: ruth bushnell fjo...@frontiernet.net This message is from: plumg...@pon.net I cannot figure out why a horse would want to go down in a shallow creek with rocks all over the streambed. Seems like they should know it would hurt their backs? Gail RIGHT, GAIL, in all my year's of horse experience, in the outback, I have never known of a horse that wanted to get down in a stream, I don't believe that's why they strike the water with their hooves. Ruthie, nw mt, US Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: hang on
This message is from: laura fisher laura_fishe...@hotmail.com ...we were crossing a wide stream on a hot day- and my friends swore- no kidding- that my horse just wanted to cool off... he just had that look of it. The moment he remembered I was on his back he scrambled to his feet and it was a good thing for us to all laugh about. i only got wet up to my knees.saddle was fine :) From: fjo...@frontiernet.net To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Re: hang on Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:11:34 -0600 This message is from: ruth bushnell fjo...@frontiernet.net This message is from: plumg...@pon.net I cannot figure out why a horse would want to go down in a shallow creek with rocks all over the streambed. Seems like they should know it would hurt their backs? Gail RIGHT, GAIL, in all my year's of horse experience, in the outback, I have never known of a horse that wanted to get down in a stream, I don't believe that's why they strike the water with their hooves. Ruthie, nw mt, US Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: hang on
This message is from: coy...@acrec.com coy...@acrec.com plumg...@pon.net wrote: I cannot figure out why a horse would want to go down in a shallow creek with rocks all over the streambed Well, I can't figure it out either, Gail, but the fact remains that it happens. I have personally seen it happen to other riders several times and almost had it happen to me once. In EVERY case in my personal experience, the horse DID strike the water several times with a front hoof shortly before attempting to lie down. I do not mean to say they ALWAYS paw before lying down, but in my experience, the pawing is strongly linked to lying down in the water. On the same note, I ~occasionally~ see the same pawing behavior right before a horse lies down in the pasture. Even though it does not happen every time on land, it happens often enough on water and on land that I associate this pawing with the act of lying down. In the cases I can attest to, one was a small solid-granite pool up in the west Texas hills, water depth of about a foot. The rider had stopped to let his horse drink. When the horse had his fill, he started to paw. I warned the rider to get his horse moving, but he didn't react fast enough. After pawing several times, the horse calmly laid down in the water. The rider got a foot briefly trapped under the horse and came out of it with some good bruises. The horse got several abrasions and cuts on its legs as it struggled to get up on the slippery rocks. The other two times I have experienced this behavior were in the Yellow River here in northeastern Iowa. It has a rocky limestone bottom, the depth ranges from 12 to 24, and the width ranges from 100 to 200 feet. Same basic story as the Texas incident, but no injuries to the riders or horses either time, thank goodness. And some years ago my mare Sissel, after taking a drink on a hot day, started to paw and get weak in the knees. Thankfully, I got her moving across the river again before she went down. Once they get moving, their sinking spell seems to evaporate and they're fine. --DeeAnna Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: hang on
This message is from: laura fisher laura_fishe...@hotmail.com I had a horse that would itch his face on its knees- and then go down. I was told to always watch out for the itch and lift the reins and kick him forward immediately Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 22:14:20 -0500 From: coy...@acrec.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: hang on This message is from: coy...@acrec.com coy...@acrec.com plumg...@pon.net wrote: I cannot figure out why a horse would want to go down in a shallow creek with rocks all over the streambed Well, I can't figure it out either, Gail, but the fact remains that it happens. I have personally seen it happen to other riders several times and almost had it happen to me once. In EVERY case in my personal experience, the horse DID strike the water several times with a front hoof shortly before attempting to lie down. I do not mean to say they ALWAYS paw before lying down, but in my experience, the pawing is strongly linked to lying down in the water. On the same note, I ~occasionally~ see the same pawing behavior right before a horse lies down in the pasture. Even though it does not happen every time on land, it happens often enough on water and on land that I associate this pawing with the act of lying down. In the cases I can attest to, one was a small solid-granite pool up in the west Texas hills, water depth of about a foot. The rider had stopped to let his horse drink. When the horse had his fill, he started to paw. I warned the rider to get his horse moving, but he didn't react fast enough. After pawing several times, the horse calmly laid down in the water. The rider got a foot briefly trapped under the horse and came out of it with some good bruises. The horse got several abrasions and cuts on its legs as it struggled to get up on the slippery rocks. The other two times I have experienced this behavior were in the Yellow River here in northeastern Iowa. It has a rocky limestone bottom, the depth ranges from 12 to 24, and the width ranges from 100 to 200 feet. Same basic story as the Texas incident, but no injuries to the riders or horses either time, thank goodness. And some years ago my mare Sissel, after taking a drink on a hot day, started to paw and get weak in the knees. Thankfully, I got her moving across the river again before she went down. Once they get moving, their sinking spell seems to evaporate and they're fine. --DeeAnna Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f