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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We were lucky to find ours years ago at a second hand shop in Portland store. Amy made the harness. A little brag as I am proud of her. She is good with anything for the horse. She had a complete Breyers collection from the first one they made. She had made each horse its own outfits, blankets, saddles, bridles and the classy outfit for the Arabs. She is clever, But does not favor making more than one. She gets her smarts from her dad. He was a professional saddle and boot maker. She uses the saddle she designed and made w/ her dad. Now I am dead, because she will kill me for this. LOL Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
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This message is from: The Mercers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now I am dead, because she will kill me for this. LOL< I won't tell if you don't! Ü Taffy Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We were lucky to find ours years ago at a second hand shop in Portland store. Amy made the harness. A little brag as I am proud of her. She is good with anything for the horse. She had a complete Breyers collection from the first one they made. She had made each horse its own outfits, blankets, saddles, bridles and the classy outfit for the Arabs. She is clever, But does not favor making more than one. She gets her smarts from her dad. He was a professional saddle and boot maker. She uses the saddle she designed and made w/ her dad. Now I am dead, because she will kill me for this. LOL Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589";>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We were lucky to find ours years ago at a second hand shop in Portland store. Amy made the harness. A little brag as I am proud of her. She is good with anything for the horse. She had a complete Breyers collection from the first one they made. She had made each horse its own outfits, blankets, saddles, bridles and the classy outfit for the Arabs. She is clever, But does not favor making more than one. She gets her smarts from her dad. He was a professional saddle and boot maker. She uses the saddle she designed and made w/ her dad. Now I am dead, because she will kill me for this. LOL Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589";>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
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This message is from: Alison Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hey maybe they could name the new Breyer after my horse and keep with the > theme . "HARRISON " Fjord, goes well with HENRY Fjord doesnt it? I like Sigmund Fjord, personally. Sorry for the spelling.
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey maybe they could name the new Breyer after my horse and keep with the theme . "HARRISON " Fjord, goes well with HENRY Fjord doesnt it? Okay no comments necessary Michele Noonan
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This message is from: Jen Timm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I am sure they try their best to get things right and if a grey dun can be > >called a grullo, then they are using more of the horse term than a fjord > >term. But they did recall the "Leo" model when they received enough > >complaints when the model was not marked correctly by the AQHA people. If > >we could just get them to darken the hoofs? The model "Leo" was never recalled...it was simply referred to by collectors as an "oops" that left the factory... About 200... These models were originally sold without any markings so that the new owners could paint on markings and submit them to a special registry as "sons" or "daughters" of Leo. The collectors thought that the solid Leos looked like the solid Wimpys from the previous year and so markings were then added by Breyer. It is conceivable that Breyer could darken the legs/hooves, but since the Silver Wolfe models have already gone into production, there already are several hundred models with the pink hooves > >I am afraid that the "henry" mold will be the mold until they come out with > >a stallion or mare. It cost too much money to remold the design. So, all > >Fjords that are geldings will be this mold. Since it took so long to get _A_ fjord in the Breyer line, it will be MANY more before any new fjords get added However, Breyer has gotten many of the model horse hobby people involved with sculpting models for the line. Some examples of these new sculptures by the hobby's finest are a zebra, standardbred (Hambletonian), miniature horse, and Zippo Pine Bar... Jen > Jennifer E. Timm < [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wpi.edu/~jetimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.angelfire.com/wa/willows/ "That is the exploration that awaits you! Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." --Q to Picard in ST:TNG's "All Good Things"
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This message is from: Bobbi Crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi All, Breyer has a website. http://www.breyerhorses.comSilver Wolfe should be under New for 2000. Bobbi Crull [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes! The new Fjord is really bad. We left a message on the "comment on the site" page. Thanks for the connection. Lois and Alan Merrill, Dodgeville, Wis
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/10/00 5:40:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << There is an article on Fjord Horse colors on the NFHR web site written by Phillip Sponenberg, DVM, Phd. It does say that the "Grey Dun" Fjord is a Grullo. Here is a link to it. You will need the Adobe Acrobat Reader to view it: >> Thanks. I'll look at it shortly. Now I wonder what you call the smoky, smudged, grey brown that I always was told was a grullo is called. Perplexed Pamela
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This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:21 AM 2/10/00 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am sure they try their best to get things right and if a grey dun can be called a grullo, then they are using more of the horse term than a fjord term. But they did recall the "Leo" model when they received enough complaints when the model was not marked correctly by the AQHA people. If we could just get them to darken the hoofs? That would be better than the way it is anyway. I am afraid that the "henry" mold will be the mold until they come out with a stallion or mare. It cost too much money to remold the design. So, all Fjords that are geldings will be this mold. Yeah I understand that. I just think is we talk loud and much maybe we can get a correction??? That would be a good thing for sure. Mike, I will order you the catalog, only dealers get them, but I can get you one. The horse is at the bottom of the traditional list . Thanks, that would be great. Mike
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This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >When I heard about fjord red duns I had no interest in >them. Till I saw them. So different from the QH red dun, and so >beautiful. I agree, a lot of folks that know the red dun Fjords feel this way. I think it is, by far, the most elegant of the Fjord colors. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
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This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Now I wonder what you call the smoky, >smudged, grey brown that I always was told was a grullo is called. Pamela ... I agree with you. The grullo's I have seen are very different than the Fjord's grey dun. The red dun of the Quarter Horse is different also. However, the same dun colors complete with the two-color mane of the Fjord Horse can be found in the Mustang/Sorroyo(sp.?)/Spanish Horses in both brown dun and grey dun. Maybe these colors can be found in Quarter horses who have wild Mustang in their pedigrees. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA (where the weather is still absolute perfection and I must force myself to attack Dorina's giant mane today ... spooky isn't it!) >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/10/00 8:35:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Pamela ... I agree with you. The grullo's I have seen are very different than the Fjord's grey dun. The red dun of the Quarter Horse is different also. >> Ah, a voice in the wilderness. I thought I was alone with my thoughts of what a grullo is. And a red dun QH IS extremely different than the fjord, isn't it? We've got our palomino mare, and for a while I was looking for a buckskin mare. Not just any buckskin, but one with conformation, training, etc. And I just couldn't find one for love nor money. Everyone had red duns to offer. And they were nice, but not what I wanted. To me, the QH red dun is sort of ugly. When I heard about fjord red duns I had no interest in them. Till I saw them. So different from the QH red dun, and so beautiful. Pamela
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/10/00 8:25:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << http://members.aol.com/battyatty/index.htm#count >> Thanks Jean. I used to have that site, but lost it when we bought a new computer. It's one of the few places that talks about a rabicano roan. 2 years ago our palomino mare gave birth to a beautiful baby. who had the funniest marks. A raccoon striped tail, and white belly. Now she's developed a couple quarter size spots on her chest. The man who bought her is going to see if he can have her accepted by the Paint registry. Amazing all the different variations. I was awed by the "giraffe" markings in this website. Pamela
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This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are many shades of Grey duns or grullos in other breeds and a lot are darker than the shades in the Fjords. Same goes for ALL the dun colors, many darker shades in the quarterhorse and other breeds while the Fjords mostly have a very light shade of Dun. Some shade of dun in these other breeds are so dark that I would have called them brown or something else befroe I read Sponenberg's work. Sponenberg's books and photos are very informative and interesting. Here is a good website also in a lot of info and pictures: http://members.aol.com/battyatty/index.htm#count ><< There is an article on Fjord Horse colors on the NFHR web site written by > Phillip Sponenberg, DVM, Phd. It does say that the "Grey Dun" Fjord is a Grullo. Now I wonder what you call the smoky, >smudged, grey brown that I always was told was a grullo is called. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, +10F Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Try this link, >>http://www.breyerhorses.com/breyer/product.asp?sku=700100&dept%5Fid=2 > >Thanks Lori! > >And it has white hooves too! Looks like Henry in a different color. I wish they would make a whole different model as I don't particulary like the way HENRY has his head attached, etc. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska > > > > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:57 AM 2/10/00 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" wrote: > Please let me know how you found it. Try this link, http://www.breyerhorses.com/breyer/product.asp?sku=700100&dept%5Fid=2 Lori A. Thanks Lori! And it has white hooves too!
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This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" wrote: > Please let me know how you found it. Try this link, http://www.breyerhorses.com/breyer/product.asp?sku=700100&dept%5Fid=2 Lori A.
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This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:02 PM 2/9/00 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Alison Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hmm, not a great rendition of the color, but I don't think that those are supposed to be socks, just a lot of lightening in the lower leg. Besides, he's so cute!! Did you actually find a picture of it on the Breyer site? I couldn't find anything but the current "Henry" Fjord. Please let me know how you found it. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 06:22 PM 2/9/00 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??? I've always thought it was a completely different color. Just looked up a genetic code website and looked up grullo to get my facts straight. I'm not sure if this would be what a grey dun would look like? There is an article on Fjord Horse colors on the NFHR web site written by Phillip Sponenberg, DVM, Phd. It does say that the "Grey Dun" Fjord is a Grullo. Here is a link to it. You will need the Adobe Acrobat Reader to view it: http://www.nfhr.com/newsinfo.html#Articles If you need the Reader you can get it for free here: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html At least not the ones I've seen (but I've seen limited, I'd love to have a wider frame of reference) Anyway, one of my favorite mottos is "live and learn". This picture doesn't even fit the image of what I've always considered a grullo. The smoky looking, dusty horses that look like somebody took an eraser to them are what I thought were grullos. Here is a link to the colors of Fjords page on the NFHR site also: http://www.nfhr.com/Horses%20of%20Different%20Colors.html Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] White socks on a Fjord? Maybe all those crossbreeding discussions should be taken more seriously!
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This message is from: Alison Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hmm, not a great rendition of the color, but I don't think that those are supposed to be socks, just a lot of lightening in the lower leg. Besides, he's so cute!!
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This message is from: Jen Timm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi! I did contact them about it, but they never responded. I appreciated their idea of putting gray dun on their fjord model, but at least they could have gotten the color and information correct!! If you want to hear from them, I don't think email is the way, unfortunately... Jen (model horse collector) Catherine Lassesen wrote: > > This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hey, I am concerned. I sell Breyers and I am upset. They are coming out with > a "SILVER GRULLO" Norwegian Fjord with 4 white socks. It is called "Silver > Wolfe" and model number 700100. It will be the Spring Show Special. I think > we as individuals and as a group should contact BREYER and tell them we are > not happy. Contact them at www.breyerhorses.com . He actually is painted > nicely and it is good for our breed to have a Breyer out there. But. can > we at least get more Acurate. Hey Mike May... a photo is printed in the > order book taken by you. Catherine Lassesen -- > Jennifer E. Timm < [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wpi.edu/~jetimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.angelfire.com/wa/willows/ "That is the exploration that awaits you! Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." --Q to Picard in ST:TNG's "All Good Things"
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 02/09/2000 5:23:10 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Pam, The "grey" color in fjords is the same as the Grullo in > quarterhorses, so that is why they're called Grullo...Probably less > confusing to somebody not familiar with the breed than "Grey" as grey in > other breeds is entirely different! When I try to explain the colors of > the Fjordhorse to non Fjord people I tell them the grey would be called a > grullo in other breeds. > > Jean in SLunny Fairbanks, alaska, a little cooler at +10 > I agree with your description Jean. We raise dun and grullo Paint horses and have also got a Fjord. I would have to call a grey-dun a grullo. That explains that.. but the socks??? geez Lou Check out our website http://members.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.htm";>DoubleDay Farm Miniature & Paint Horses
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/9/00 3:01:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Pam, The "grey" color in fjords is the same as the Grullo in quarterhorses, so that is why they're called Grullo... >> ??? I've always thought it was a completely different color. Just looked up a genetic code website and looked up grullo to get my facts straight. I'm not sure if this would be what a grey dun would look like? At least not the ones I've seen (but I've seen limited, I'd love to have a wider frame of reference) Anyway, one of my favorite mottos is "live and learn". This picture doesn't even fit the image of what I've always considered a grullo. The smoky looking, dusty horses that look like somebody took an eraser to them are what I thought were grullos. Maybe another website will tell me I was right ... You can find just about anything on the web, after all! http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Outback/2936/Grullo.html I also checked back with the other website that I listed earlier. Some of the posts that I found truly funny aren't there any more :( There were at least 20-30 posts when I first saw it. Most of them were about the stubbornness of the fjord. Oh well, I probably should have shared it with the list when I saw it the first time.
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This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pam, The "grey" color in fjords is the same as the Grullo in quarterhorses, so that is why they're called Grullo...Probably less confusing to somebody not familiar with the breed than "Grey" as grey in other breeds is entirely different! When I try to explain the colors of the Fjordhorse to non Fjord people I tell them the grey would be called a grullo in other breeds. Jean in SLunny Fairbanks, alaska, a little cooler at +10 A couple >people who knew what they were talking about (several references to Anne and >Wez) but among the weird things was somebody mentioning a grullo fjord. >Hmmm I wanted badly to answer, but seems you have to register to the list >to be able to respond. > >Pamela > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Lori Puster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all. New to this list, and a new Fjord owner--have just purchaced Snowy's Mojave from Snowy Mountain Fjords. I left a message to Breyer at http://www.breyerhorses.com/breyer/contact.asp. Lori Puster MoonWise Farm AAGBA Angora Goats
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have just left a message in their "frequently asked question" box as they do not display an email address. I would suggest buying one and in fifty years it will have value as a "mistake" Sure. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:53 AM 2/9/00 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey, I am concerned. I sell Breyers and I am upset. They are coming out with a "SILVER GRULLO" Norwegian Fjord with 4 white socks. It is called "Silver Wolfe" and model number 700100. It will be the Spring Show Special. I think we as individuals and as a group should contact BREYER and tell them we are not happy. This is bad. I talked to them extensively when they were making the first one. Of course they didn't ask about the "Henry" name they gave him. I sent quite a few pictures of mare, stallions & geldings and Henry is what they came up with from it. They haven't asked anything about this latest one though. WHITE SOCKS on a Fjord??? Where did they ever get that from? Contact them at www.breyerhorses.com . He actually is painted nicely and it is good for our breed to have a Breyer out there. But. can we at least get more Acurate. Hey Mike May... a photo is printed in the order book taken by you. Catherine Lassesen Yeah they contacted me for a picture of a Fjord awhile back. I would have normally asked the list for pictures but they wanted it in like 2 days! So I just sent them one I had taken. How do I get a copy of their catalog? Mike
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I went through my old mail and found the link. If anybody else is interested in reading what the dressage list has to say about fjords, here it is. http://www.coolbreezefarm.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000366.html
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/9/00 12:13:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Hey, I am concerned. I sell Breyers and I am upset. They are coming out with a "SILVER GRULLO" Norwegian Fjord with 4 white socks. >> This is the second reference I've heard this weeks as to a "grullo" fjord! The first was in a link a friend sent me. Seems somebody on a dressage list is interesting in buying a fjord and asked if anyone knew anything about them. There were all kinds of interesting, and bizarre answers. A couple people who knew what they were talking about (several references to Anne and Wez) but among the weird things was somebody mentioning a grullo fjord. Hmmm I wanted badly to answer, but seems you have to register to the list to be able to respond. Pamela
