Re: Geldings and Babies
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This year at Blue Earth, there was a young foal -- unweaned I think -- that was shown in one of the halter classes. One evening before the show started, the owners took the foal away from its mother to work with it in the arena. The foal was restive and a little worried about being separated from its mother. My mare Sissel and I were riding in the arena at the time. As soon as Sissel realized the baby was not with its mama, she fretted and worried about that foal. Several times she gave a soft squeal of dismay and veered toward the baby. I am quite sure from her behavior and body language that my Sissel simply wanted to do what she does so well -- be a good mother, even to a strange foal. It was interesting to me to see that the other Fjords in the arena, as far as I could tell, were not nearly as concerned about the foal as Sissel was. My story more or less ends at this point, but I want to add that, rather than get frustrated at Sis for being so distracted, I actually felt proud of her desire to protect that foal. I couldn't let her act on that desire -- the foal was perfectly safe even though Sis didn't think so -- so I simply asked her to mind me as best she could as we rode. She did pretty well, but I could tell that she was far too distracted and worried to do more than the simple things, so I didn't ask for more. That was okay with me -- I could wait for another day to try new things. Instead, I felt proud of her willingness to balance her desire to take care of the foal with her desire to respond to me too. Sissel may not be the best trained horse, and she certainly does not have lots of trophies and ribbons. But she's earned a very special place in my heart for having always done the best she can do for me. She's always given me her honest "try", and I respect and love her for that. DeeAnna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Geldings and evaluations
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> YEAH!!! From the Markus fan club in Minnesota Go Linda!! Roberta - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:15 PM Subject: Re: Geldings and evaluations > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi; > > Just to let you know they did an evaluation in West Salem Wisconsin > 08/06-08/07 and Linda Syverson-Kerr had her gelding evaluated Spruce Hill Markus and he > received seven blues along with a silver medallion and a gold medallion and > this was done in this lone evaluation. I can't explain how proud I was that day > being she is my wife and Markus is like one of the family. > > > > Proud Husband
Re: Geldings and evaluations
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To the Proud Husband and wife and gelding, Markus. That is really a terrific honor and day for you all. Glad for you and you all should be proud!!! Jean G. Author 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520
Re: Geldings and evaluations - Congrats!!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WOW!!! Linda and Markus did amazing work at the evaluation! I'll bet your whole clan is proud and Markus has probably earned carrots for life! Although, since you guys already loved him, I'm sure he had the carrot guarantee sewn up anyway! YEA Geldings!! Kay Van Natta and Braveheart, another carrot recipient and Clementine, who thinks he's overpaid
Re: Geldings and evaluations
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi; Just to let you know they did an evaluation in West Salem Wisconsin 08/06-08/07 and Linda Syverson-Kerr had her gelding evaluated Spruce Hill Markus and he received seven blues along with a silver medallion and a gold medallion and this was done in this lone evaluation. I can't explain how proud I was that day being she is my wife and Markus is like one of the family. Proud Husband
Re: Geldings...again
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/7/01 7:43:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Of course, maybe he reached his full genetic potential in size because he was allowed to nurse so long as well as getting grain, supplements and good hay. >> I'm curious about this too. In nature, when are horses weaned? Do all female horses stay with the group, and at what age do studs get kicked out? Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords / )__~ /L /L
Re: Geldings...again
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My Gelding, Bjorken, was gelded at 11 months, as he was getting "studdy" and I was afraid he would breed his mother. The vet had checked him a couple months before and said his testicles were not completely down then. When he gelded him, he removed one testicle OK, but then the second one slipped back into the inguinal canal and it was a worrisome few minutes before the vet could retrieve it. Time was running out for the short term anesthesia and if he hadn't managed to get hold of it we would have had to let him heal up then do it again later. Whew! BTW, he still wasn't weaned at that age, and I didn't get around to separating him from his mother until he was 14 months oldHe had been born the end of June here in Fairbanks, so I let him nurse through the winter as Stella was holding her weight just fine. Weaning was a breeze by that time! I had an older gelding that taught him manners. Bjorken has turned out the most well adjusted fjord I have, happily leaving the herd with me on trail rides with no other horses along. (Perhaps he considers me part of the herd? I was there when he was born.) He is also quite tall and long legged, 15-2 hands and a lighter body type. Did he turn out taller because he was gelded before a year of age? Maybe, but he has a full brother who is also quite tall, so I think it is the genes, not the hormones. Of course, maybe he reached his full genetic potential in size because he was allowed to nurse so long as well as getting grain, supplements and good hay. It is true, tho, that if you neuter a kitten at a young age you will wind up with a BIG cat. Also, why are capons so big compared to roosters of the same breed (a capon is a "neutered" chicken)? Jean in Fairbanks, ALaska, madly getting ready for winter..snow expected next week. 40 degrees >You are right. They either have them or they don't. Usually these colts >that seem to drop late aren't true cryptorchids, just what we call high >flankers. When you reach up there to feel, the natural reaction of the >colt is to suck them up. That's why you don't feel them. Many times if >you sedate the colt, they will relax and you can then feel them. > >Steve White >Waterloo, Nebraska > > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Geldings...again
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary, You are right. They either have them or they don't. Usually these colts that seem to drop late aren't true cryptorchids, just what we call high flankers. When you reach up there to feel, the natural reaction of the colt is to suck them up. That's why you don't feel them. Many times if you sedate the colt, they will relax and you can then feel them. Steve White Waterloo, Nebraska
Re: Geldings Evaluated & Club Feet
This message is from: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Again List! Hi Peg! I hope you didn't think I was a pickin' on ya! I should have put a huge smiley after my message to you but I forgot! :-) ;-) Hi Lisa P.!Yep, Dave McWethy is going to drive a Fjord 4 In Hand at the Equine Affaire! Dave, you'll probably see it here first, but you will be in Fantasia on Friday and Saturday Nites in the Driven Hitch section. Dave drives his horses, Signe and Mari as the Leaders(is that right Dave?) and our Stella and Dena are the Wheelers. I just went to a practice for the 6 young girls doing a small drill/jumping demo, within the Breed Demo on Friday @ 11:45 in the Mallory Arena. Stella, Dena, and Bjorg will also be in the Breed Demo as a 3 Abreast pulling a forecart and a piece of farm machinery. Maybe a plow. The Colli's of Blue Heron farm will be driving Mogan and Vidar to a 4 wheel vehicle and Kurt Howard will be driving his wonderful sleigh on wheels with "The Goose". I will be ground driving Rosita with 2 month old Valentinja along side. Rosita will be pulling a sapling travois with a load of hay. Anthony will either be on the travois or in the forecart with Dad. We all have Barbara Howard to thank for all the wonderful Norwegian Bunads she has made and embroidered for the girls and guys. Oh yeah, Dave, hope you don't mind dressing Norwegian! Don't worry, you will have your favorite girl Krystal Howard perched in her new Bunad beside you and Kurt and Dick will be dressed up Norwegian Style right behind you in your vehicle Hey Peg! You sparked a new thought : Maybe anyone evaluating Geldings can be entered into a new awards program, for all phases, highest points and get a special award for it, tied into the Evaluation. This could be down the road alittle. But, most people who love to show, love trophies and prizes. After all, he who dies with the most ribbons and trophies wins! He with the biggest collection of fjords wins! (notice big smileys after this) ::-) ::-)(notice 4 eyes- means that Sue g. now has reading glasses because she c an't hardly see a thing! About the club feet, I think that you are right about being born with club feet or the genetics for it. Some don't appear until the age of two. I have always been interested in Conformation and Feet. We lived in OKC, OK in '85 & '86. I wanted to go to the Horseshoeing School there. We went to check it out and I guess when Dick saw all the Cowboys there, he didn't think I should learn to shoe horses!! Ha! Ha! Dick was my farrier. Dick and I meet when he picked up a hitchhiker, who knew this girl, that needed her horse shoed. I got the number from our mutual friend, he came over to see the horses and set a date to do them and came and shod them. I don't want to date myself, but back in those days it was $17 to shoe my horse. Wow! Then two weeks later, when I wasn't home, my mom told me that that shoer showed up as he had lost a pair of nippers!! He left his card. Hahahahaha! Lost a pair of nippers. Next time any of you see Dick, ask if he ever found that pair of nippers. I called him to tell him they weren't here and you all know "The Rest of The Story". Oh, I might as well throw in that we were married by our Vet, who happened to be a Justice of the Peace! Kind of romantic, huh? I bet you all thought Dick was a big ol' tuff guy! Nope, Big ol' marshmallow inside! Ok, I'll go now and get my butt to bed. Busy day tomorrow. Picking up a dear friend, who just lost a leg, to diabetes complications, in Hanover and taking him to get fitted for his new leg and start his therapy to learn how to use it! He came down to our house every day for almost 3 months to help feed the horses and do fire wood when Dick had his bypass surgery last year. Then to Boston with Anthony and an ADHD Study he is in at Mass General Hospital. We make weekly visits at least another month, and then down to monthly visits. As you can see, we lead a very busy life!! Very enriched, though, by all the wonderful folks we have meet through having our fjords! On that note I bid you all good nite and we got snow today!Sue g.
Re: Geldings Gone
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi All, > > I just wanted to let everyone know that Thurman's 2 > geldings that were here > for sale, have found new homes. > Again, thanks to everyone who inquired about them > and thank you Mary and Fred > for entrusting me with their 'adoption.' Hello List, Fred and I would like to add a note here: We are VERY pleased with the way our boys were handled/marketed at Gayle's! Can't think of a better place to send a horse for marketing, training, breeding, whatever - plus a great place to take lessons. If you want your horses marketed by someone who can show them off to their best advantage, and who CARES about where the horse goes, this is the place/person to get in contact with. We raised these geldings from babies - Sindar was born on our place, Glendar came as a weanling - and the decision to 'pass them on' to someone else was a tough one. We are very glad there was someone available to market them for us/screen prospective owners knowledgeably. Now that they are 'adopted' we are happy with their new home, and expect 'more and better' things for both of them. We hope to watch the girls show them once in a while, as we live close enough to drive down for a show. A big 'thank you' to Gayle from both of us! Mary and Fred = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Geldings for sale
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Jean Gayle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Jean Gayle" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > My God Mary what are you doing? What a shock to see > your ad and know the > horses are already gone. Hope you both are all > right and that it was a > decision you wanted to make. Hi Jean, It was something we thought long and hard about before we did it. Our situation here has gotten worse as the years went by - pastureland washed down to the river/flooded by downstream beaver dams, etc., until we have NO pasture except for our lawn. The lawn is fine for old Line who does not tear up the real estate running around. She still gets a 'bee in her bonnet' occasionally and runs into the barn for dinner, but she doesn't have enough 'push' in her stride any more to tear things up much. The 'boys' were a different story - with their energy and being shod for trail riding they tore things up pretty bad. Plus a lawn is NOT enough space for two big geldings to be running around getting their exercise! They spent from the end of April until the middle of June - when we took them down to Gayle's - mostly in their stalls, as their pens were still over knee deep in mud. Just was not a good life for two young active geldings who were trained and ready to do anything. My riding has been seriously curtailed by my hip. It simply will not stand for being 'stretched around' a horse for very long. Whole leg goes numb, which doesn't help any. Sindar and Glendar need someone younger and more able to take them on to better things, so Gayle is marketing them for us. Thought they'd sell better at her place where people come looking for Fjords to buy - plus where people come for lessons, sometimes on her horses rather than their own. Right now both boys are being used as lesson horses, plus Gayle is riding them to see just exactly what they CAN do. Sindar is getting some work under English tack and over small jumps in case someone wants him as a hunter hack prospect, etc. He is more 'petite' and really looks the part when all 'tacked up'. He looks a little 'overdressed' in a Western saddle I always thought. Glendar is on to 'bigger and better' things in the reining department. Gayle was surprised by how well he handles that big body - sort of another Lars she says, although she also says Glendar is BIGGER than Lars(hard to believe!). Lots of people have been looking at them, so something should happen before the summer is over. Took a while to get used to the empty barn - with only old Line - but we've adjusted. Right now it's full of a year's supply of hay for the 'old girl'. She missed the boys for about one day - she really didn't like them, just wasn't pleased because things were different. Now she has settled into a routine of visiting with the neighbor horses over the fence, which keeps everybody happy. Must go out and move the hose, then weed the garden. just got a new > Corgi so must be going to > stay here for awhile yet. O - a new puppy. What fun!! Enjoy! Am still keeping the 'Mini idea' in the back of my mind if I find I can't live without at least one horse to drive. Happy summer - pant, pant!! Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Geldings for sale
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My God Mary what are you doing? What a shock to see your ad and know the horses are already gone. Hope you both are all right and that it was a decision you wanted to make. Just about every day now I question how much longer I can keep the place going. Have not even ridden Gunnar since he came back from Anne's. But then just got a new Corgi so must be going to stay here for awhile yet. Let me hear from you, Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: geldings vs mares
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And in addition, I have to ream Lars out EVERY TWO WEEKS by the clock, or black gunk dribbles down his legs and stinks!!! The only salvation is shoulder-length disposable exam gloves. He and the Icelandic are doing the Roman Soldier's mount duty next Friday in the local Catholic church's Cruxifixtion reenactment procession. Merek.
Re: geldings vs mares
This message is from: John and Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just my own take on this, but I have usually bought geldings because I don't intend to breed. If you have a nice mare, it seems such a waste to leave her open if she could contribute to the breed. I never bred the mares I did own because, imho, they would never have done anything to improve the breed (these were not Fjords). I now own a Fjord mare and I am having her bred even though she is being released from someone else's breeding program. Anyway, sometimes the reason for a gelding has nothing to do with temperament. About bonding with mares vs geldings. I have had fewer problems bonding with our geldings than our mares. Must be that you bond better with the animals you just feel closer to. Our geldings have been mostly quiet and easy going on the ground and forward and a little 'pushy' when ridden/driven. This is the kind of horse I look for and the kind of horse I like. Our mares have all been more difficult from the ground. Just my take on things - personal preferences are why we do the things we do Martie and Kilar in windy!!! MD
Re: Geldings for Sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone from VERY hot, steamy Michigan, We feel compelled to discuss with all of you some issues/problems we recently encountered during a potential Fjord horse buying transaction. We have since changed our minds on this purchase, but feel we must at least warn other potential buyers of the possible problems we ran into. The three older geldings for sale mentioned previously on this list are, from our understanding, sound and healthy horses. The training appears to be more centered around kid's camps than otherwise, although they have been used to cut cattle and drive. It needs to be mentioned here this is what we were told by the PREVIOUS owner. The present owners have not owned these horses long, a couple of them only for a few days, from what we have gathered. We were able to gain very little VALID information from the present owners. If any of you are interested in these horses, we would seriously suggest you contact the previous owners to gain a strong and truthful insight into their background, training, parentage, etc. We are by no means saying these horses have any physical or mental problems, actually, they sound like good horses for the right owners. The Canadian Registry can assist you in contacting the previous owner, even though these horses have never been registered. The Registry has been kind enough to help a great deal in this situation as a courtesy. We have, through a great deal of work, been able to hunt down some of the paperwork needed to register these geldings with the NFHR. Mike May has the breeding reports. Again, the Canadian Registry was very helpful. The present owners were unwilling to go through the trouble of registration. It also needs to be said that even though the breeding reports have been located through the work of the previous owner, Canadian Registry, and ourselves, it may be difficult, without the previous owner physically identifying these horses, to know these are indeed the same horses as being protrayed through the available pedigrees. We have no doubt the previous owner would be kind enough to identify them for any who would like to buy these geldings if registration is not of great concern. We would also strongly suggest to not send any money prior to actually picking up these horses. Sincerely, Lynda and Dan Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm
Re: Geldings for Sale from BDF
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol, This sounds like a wonderful group of horses. Wish I had more time!! I heard again from Debbie Nevelski and she said Roza was not pregnant at this time. She decided to take Roza to Oregon and leave her there with Kanada King until she becomes pregnant. I'm glad she changed her mind because from what you told me, King is spectacular and a great mover. All is well here. Idar is moving great. He felt like a third level horse today, all collected and light in the front, and going very forward. His next show is August 7, an overnight trip near San Diego at a large facility where I've never been before... always an adventure. Best, Elaine
Re: Geldings for Sale from BDF
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Good Morning from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - It's easy and inexpensive to buy Fjords from Nova Scotia. NO DUTY or QUARANTINE. ONLY COGGINS & HEALTH CERTIFICATE. TRANSPORT SURPRISINGLY CHEAP! As little as $500 from Nova Scotia to North Carolina. We have three good geldings for sale. Two of them drive, and have been in professional driving training since April. All of them ride in the ring, on the trails, on the beach. All can be ridden anywhere by children and relatively inexperienced riders. TARP - 3 yr. old gelding. Started under saddle by top N.J. dressage rider. As near to BOMBPROOF as horses get. Steady, unflappable. Excellent horse in harness. 4 months professional training. Light and pleasant in the mouth. Unusually steady in his trot. Set the pace and he trots on with no break in cadence. Worked daily by professional driving trainer on dressage field, cones course,in our practice hazard, and on trails. Driven by guests at our Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacations. Good, steady, well trained gelding. $7500 AF ANDOR, sired by GJEST, out of BDF ELFRI, daughter of Dutch Keur Mare, TESSA, now 25 years and going strong. Gorgeous Fjord gelding. Tall, dark, very attractive. Beautiful head, most unusual in a gelding as geldings often have long heads. Originally trained to drive by U.S. Pair Champion, Larry Poulin, and been in professional training at our farm since April. Rides & drives dependably. Kind, sweet, wonderful manners. Can be ridden or driven by almost anybody. Used in our Beginner Driving Program. One of best horses for trail & beach. Ridden by our guests & their children. Kids describe Andor as - "AWESOME". Top quality Fjord gelding. Beautiful to look at. Well trained. Great temperament. Ultimate FAMILY RECREATION HORSE. Ideal for pony club - dressage, jumping. With continued correct training, could be champion driving horse. Has ALL the right moves. -- Unfortunately, Andor has a bad scar on his left rear cannon bone, a result of an accident before we bought him this January. Because of this scar, he's being sold at a relatively low price. $8500 SIGMUND - 9 yr. old gelding. Beautiful riding horse with rocking chair canter you couldn't fall out of. (THE HORSE FOR ALL THOSE PEOPLE AFRAID TO CANTER). Good looking horse with perfect manners. Dark colored with good head and great presence. Up-headed & alert, he makes a rider look good. Ridden daily by guests at our Beginner Driving Vacation program. Can be ridden by practically anybody. Reliable! Wonderful barn and in-hand manners. Delilghtful horse you'll be proud and pleased to own. Sigmund has not taken to driving training, and we don't sell him as a driving prospect. $7000. Those interested in these geldings, please contact me privately. ALSO FOR SALE FROM BEAVER DAM FARM - QUINTESSA - 1999 filly by Kongaard out of Norwegian mare. (name chosen by one of our 11 yr. old apprentices. She tells me it means "the best and the purest of anything".) Beautiful & correct filly. Strong & lively. Lovely dished face. Well-bred. Dam, old fashioned Norwegian type --Sire well bred & well known. Excellent buy. $5,000. BDF QUEST - '99 colt. FULL BROTHER TO BDF KANADA KING (Gjest x Stine). Correct and beautiful colt. However, has white star, so will be gelded. Cute as a button with his white star. Friendly & nice to handle. And, handled he is, every day. This youngster will be a top performance horses like each of his brothers and sisters. Will be sold with a contract stating he MUST BE GELDED! $5500. BDF QUASAR - 99 stud colt. (Gjest x Holly-Solar). EXCELLENT STALLION PROSPECT. Very big & absolutely correct. Wonderful presence. Excellent chest, topline, hindquarters. Great temperament. Imprinted and handled daily. IMPRESSIVE COLT! $9,000. JARLE - yearling gld. (Gjest x Uloza - Dutch "Keur Mare.") Good quality, best temperament. Will be super performance horse. $5,500. BERGEN - 2 yr. filly (MVF Kar x Mira) Norwegian import mare. Big, strong filly of old Norwegian type. Beautiful head. In professional driving training. $6,500. STINA - 13 yr. Norwegian import mare. IN FOAL TO GJEST - Has high quality foals - top winning foal at Woodstock '98.- First Pl. out of 17 colts & fillies. Rides & Drives. Excellent mare. Beautiful manners. Would make superb distance horse. Tremendous endurance. Wonderful, safe mare. $9,000. YEARLING FILLIES IMPORTED FROM HOLLAND - I BELIEVE THIS GROUP TO BE THE BEST GROUP OF FJORDS EVER IMPORTED FROM EUROPE. THERE ARE SOME STUPENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS GROUP. All of them were hand-picked by Carol Rivoire. All of them are DNA typed & microchipped. I was looking for good movers, and I found some dandies! $7500 & up. Those interested, please contact me privately. REMEMBER IT'S EASY & INEXPENSIVE TO BUY FJORDS FROM NOVA SCOTIA. Reg
Re: Geldings
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike, I had also heard that in Norway the 'also-rans' were meat. My understanding was that my own Fjord was a second class colt, gelded and probably going to the butcher when he was purchased to be imported to USA. Probably the breeder's first import experience, as they said they would not import another gelding. Too much hassle to be had importing something they couldn't use as breeding stock. But they kept and used him for several years before allowing me to addopt him and I am SO grateful. Of course this is only hear-say. I am certainly glad we do not do some things the same as Norway. But speaking with a woman from Norway a while back, she said farmland was at a premium and hard to buy and it was difficult to keep as many animals as a person would like. Martie in raining-again Maryland
Re: Geldings
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:19 AM 3/2/99 +0100, you wrote: >This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >WHAT 'European system'? We have a lot of geldings in Sweden (a part of >Europe), I've seen lots of Fjord geldings when I spent time in Denmark >(another part of Europe). Ok, sorry about the confusion. I have never been there but have heard that it does happen at both the Norwegian & Dutch evaluations that way. You are correct though I shouldn't have said it as "The European System" Sorry about that. I am glad to hear that geldings are used in your country. Thanks for setting things straight. >Here in Sweden, most Fjords you meet at competitions, riding schools, pony >camps etc are - geldings. I belive that we use and love our geldings pretty >much the same way as you do in North America. Great! That is good news. Geldings are great for showing. You don't have the worries you have with a stallion for sure Mike
Re: Geldings
This message is from: partoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As a matter of fact I've heard this would be a common policy in Norway. A well-known breeder here in Finland who has a lot of contacts to Norwegian Fjord people told me so. Sini. email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] home page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html
Re: Geldings
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My dressage instructor says "dressage is a gelding's sport." > >My two gelding are steady, unaffectd by hormone swings, always ready, good >workers. My two mares are fascinating, interesting characters, with mood >swings and I never quite know what mood they will be in today. Fun to work >with and wonderful, but for steady, the geldings are always there for me. > >Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, +10 today and TEN HOURS daylight! > >Jean Ernest >Fairbanks, Alaska >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Geldings Wanted/grey dun?
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:21 AM 9/16/98 -0800, you wrote: >This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >At 11:42 PM 9/13/98 EDT, you wrote: >>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>ringing up. First question, I really thought at first that Skylark was a >>brown dun. She was born that beautiful creamy color, with an apricot mane, >>and a little black stripe in her tail. However, her face is starting to shed >>out her baby coat (at less than a month old). I swear her undercoat looks >>grey. I don't THINK there are any grey duns in her lineage (Mike, that would >>be Capstone's Prinz x Nikki if you're interested in checking it out). What >>are the odds? >> >Capstone Ranch has some grey duns for sale...It is quite possible that >there is grey dun in the lineage. When I get time I'll look up the >parentage in my Canadian fjord Horse Assoc. stud books. > >Mike! When is the NFHR going to have a stud book available? Well this was always a hard question to answer. I do have one for you now though. Soon I hope. I think by sometime in the beginning of next year we will be able to offer one. With the new software the NFHR is buying it will finally be a possibility. I don't have a better answer yet as we are awaiting the delivery & conversion to the new software right now. Hopefully it will be installed before the end of the month. Then I will have to figure out what is involved in getting one printed. I have also hear that it might be possible to get the studbook on a CD ROM. Hom many people would be interested in such a item? I would think it would make for some nice search capabilities that way. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Geldings Wanted/grey dun?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-09-16 11:25:33 EDT, you write: << Capstone Ranch has some grey duns for sale...It is quite possible that there is grey dun in the lineage. When I get time I'll look up the parentage in my Canadian fjord Horse Assoc. stud books. >> That would be great! Even if she does end up being brown dun, I'd still love to have as much information as possible on her parentage. Pamela
Re: Geldings Wanted/grey dun?
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:42 PM 9/13/98 EDT, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >ringing up. First question, I really thought at first that Skylark was a >brown dun. She was born that beautiful creamy color, with an apricot mane, >and a little black stripe in her tail. However, her face is starting to shed >out her baby coat (at less than a month old). I swear her undercoat looks >grey. I don't THINK there are any grey duns in her lineage (Mike, that would >be Capstone's Prinz x Nikki if you're interested in checking it out). What >are the odds? > Capstone Ranch has some grey duns for sale...It is quite possible that there is grey dun in the lineage. When I get time I'll look up the parentage in my Canadian fjord Horse Assoc. stud books. Mike! When is the NFHR going to have a stud book available? Jean in Rainy (AGAIN!) Fairbanks, Alaska (Guess I should be glad it isn't SNOW!) ** Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:42 PM 9/13/98 -0400, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >I've got a couple of questions about Fjord babies. I've had Arab babies, and >babies of other breeds. But this is the first Fjord baby that I'll be >bringing up. First question, I really thought at first that Skylark was a >brown dun. She was born that beautiful creamy color, with an apricot mane, >and a little black stripe in her tail. However, her face is starting to shed >out her baby coat (at less than a month old). I swear her undercoat looks >grey. I don't THINK there are any grey duns in her lineage (Mike, that would >be Capstone's Prinz x Nikki if you're interested in checking it out). What >are the odds? > Well since they are both Canadian registered I don't have a lot of info on their sires & dams colors. Color isn't one of the things I can get from the pedigrees sent in. I do show something that I don't think is right though. Maybe you can help me correct it. What color is Nikki? Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had a problem with AOL last week and was unable to get to Betsy's webpage, Fjordpony. The problem is fixed and I just had a blast looking at the website. Great job Betsy. And you are so right, when they step on your toe, they DO feel like a horse instead of a pony Or maybe a herd of horses. Nikki stepped on my toe over a month ago, and just now it is starting to NOT be throbbing, and it looks more like a toe than a tennis paddle. Ah well, I love her anyway. I've got a couple of questions about Fjord babies. I've had Arab babies, and babies of other breeds. But this is the first Fjord baby that I'll be bringing up. First question, I really thought at first that Skylark was a brown dun. She was born that beautiful creamy color, with an apricot mane, and a little black stripe in her tail. However, her face is starting to shed out her baby coat (at less than a month old). I swear her undercoat looks grey. I don't THINK there are any grey duns in her lineage (Mike, that would be Capstone's Prinz x Nikki if you're interested in checking it out). What are the odds? The second question is really a lot more important than the color question, which is just intriguing to me. This one concerns feeding. With the quarter horse and arab babies, we'd give the mom plenty of grain and creep feed the baby. Nikki gets just a bit of grain (mostly oats, with maybe 2 handfuls of cob) along with her vitamins and Strongid C. I want the baby to grow strong and healthy, but am unsure how much grain she should get, and when to start. Also I need to know if I should be concerned with bone growth problems, the way you need to worry about OCD and big knees. I tend to think not, since the fjords aren't on a high protein/alfalfa diet, but would love to hear your foal feeding programs. Any help you may be able to give Skylark and me in this area would be greatly appreciated, especially by Skylark! Pamela
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the statement on geldings Cinthia-my thoughts also!! Bernadine Karns
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This message is from: William Coli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I really don't get the recent "flaming" of geldings. We had an absolutely wonderful trail ride today with our two 8 yr. old geldings and one 6 year old mare. The boys (and the girl) were adventuresome, brave and willing. Sorry that FJORDING has such a negative opinion.
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I love all horses, regardless of whether they are geldings, stallions, mares, ponies, horses, babies, aged...what difference does it make? I love geldings for their steadiness and reliability, mares for their heart...etc, etc. Fjording does not belong on this list if all he can say is he doesn't like his horses. I'll gladly take them! Just my opinion. -Jaime
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I love my geldings - have never had a mare - but how sad to hate the horses one has. I am so thankful for the geldings I have - they are quiet, reliable, well- trained and perfect for me - I am also thankful the owners were willing to sell their trusted old friends to me. There are many folks out there looking for older, trained horses (gelding or mare) with the steadiness of experience to offer someone new to the world of horses. For me to have purchased a young, untrained horse would have been a disaster - I do not know enough! But my l0 year old Fjord gelding purchased two+ months ago is helping me learn and has the patience and knowledge to allow me to make mistakes, do things a little differently and know the gentle touch and sound of someone who really cares about him. Hallelujah for the GELDINGS - L. Lottie in Minnesota
