RE: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: "Julia E. Pollock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Steve, Yesterday I was welcomed to the new list and today I got an e-mail that I was dropped. I want to continue getting mail from the Fjord list. Julia Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve McIlree Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 3:53 PM To: Fjord Horse List Subject:Welcome to the New List This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Let me initiate the new FjordHorse list by welcoming everyone. The switch-over seemed to go pretty smoothly to me. Please let me know right away if anyone has any problems. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear jean in fairbanks, boy, the liquid sounds much better, especially if you can get a large multi-dose vial through some vet supply catalogue. do you rotate the different wormers or give the same each time? i have been told and read, that it is best to rotate. do the other types come in liquid, do you know? thanks for all the good info. denise in calif. - Original Message - From: "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Welcome to the New List > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The Eqvalan is specifically labled for oral use , but the Ivomec is labled > for injection. However the Merck Factory rep said they were identical. I > quess you should verify this for yourself somehow and not take my word for > it! :) > > I thought it might be more of a hassle to administer the liquid instead of > the paste, but it actually was easier, as I squirted it in with a 12 CC > plastic syringe without a needle and they made no attempt to spit it out. > My vet used a "drenching syringe" which he hooked directly to the bottle of > Eqvalan for multiple doses. However when it broke, he simply used the > plastic syringe. Last time when I had the Spring clinic I was going to do > the ivermectin paste instead of having him worm with the liquid as that > cost $22 for each horse, but he said I could save money if I would give it > myself and he would sell me a bottle; that the liquid was really much more > effective. It is apparently immediately absorbed through the mucous > membranes of the mouth, etc. into the blood stream and gets any larvae > moving around in the blood and tissues, altho not the encysted ones. I > suppose the paste does the same, but gets diluted with the stomach contents. > > Any comments from our vet experts on liquid vs paste? > > > > >is the eqvalan or ivomec also made for oral use? or does it say injectable > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, Sun is setting at 2:37 and the temperature has > dropped to zero from a high yesterday of +45. The warm chinook wind > stripped all the beautiful snow and frost decorations off the spruce and > birch trees! :( > > > Jean Ernest > Fairbanks, Alaska > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Eqvalan is specifically labled for oral use , but the Ivomec is labled for injection. However the Merck Factory rep said they were identical. I quess you should verify this for yourself somehow and not take my word for it! :) I thought it might be more of a hassle to administer the liquid instead of the paste, but it actually was easier, as I squirted it in with a 12 CC plastic syringe without a needle and they made no attempt to spit it out. My vet used a "drenching syringe" which he hooked directly to the bottle of Eqvalan for multiple doses. However when it broke, he simply used the plastic syringe. Last time when I had the Spring clinic I was going to do the ivermectin paste instead of having him worm with the liquid as that cost $22 for each horse, but he said I could save money if I would give it myself and he would sell me a bottle; that the liquid was really much more effective. It is apparently immediately absorbed through the mucous membranes of the mouth, etc. into the blood stream and gets any larvae moving around in the blood and tissues, altho not the encysted ones. I suppose the paste does the same, but gets diluted with the stomach contents. Any comments from our vet experts on liquid vs paste? >is the eqvalan or ivomec also made for oral use? or does it say injectable Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, Sun is setting at 2:37 and the temperature has dropped to zero from a high yesterday of +45. The warm chinook wind stripped all the beautiful snow and frost decorations off the spruce and birch trees! :( Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear jean, is the eqvalan or ivomec also made for oral use? or does it say injectable on the label. the two are usually not interchangeable. wondering why it might be easier than the paste? you still have to squirt it into their mouths. please let us know. thanks, denise
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well said Lisa P. JeanPS Do we know some one famous here? Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That one of mine to Linda should have been to Michelle!!! I think am famous...for forgetting. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 05:53 PM 12/22/99 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Let me initiate the new FjordHorse list by welcoming everyone. The switch-over seemed to go pretty smoothly to me. Please let me know right away if anyone has any problems. I got you here ok. I take it the new address to send mail to the list is fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Right? Mike
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This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, look in your wlcome message and you will find the ddifferent commands. "Eqvalan" liquid is the brand of Ivermectin by Merck, and it is under prescription. My vet sold it to me for about twice what it is listed in KV vet supply, but I saved money on doing it myself. Apparently "Ivomec" 1 % injectable for cattle is the very same stuff, but not under prescription! The price in the K-V vet catalog is about the same per ML but EQVALAN comes in 100 ml bottles, IVOMEC comes in 50 and 200 ML bottles. 1 ml/110 lbs, or 10 ml for a 1100 lb horse. I use a 12 ml plastic syringe and squirt it onto the middle of the horse's tongue. They don't seem to spit it out like the paste! Glad you are having some dry weather...I would have preferred the 10 inches of snow they were warning us about, rather than this melting stuff and freezing rain! We're losing our insulation! Jean in Fairbanks, temp dropped to +39, but still dripping out there: all the pretty snow and frost has fallen off the trees! > >Jean, Two questions, "Who" is located where in reference to new commands on >the list? And what is liquid ivermectin. Is it the same as for cows and >injected? Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, Two questions, "Who" is located where in reference to new commands on the list? And what is liquid ivermectin. Is it the same as for cows and injected? I bought a bottle for the chickens and then chickened out!! Ahem. Jean PS it has been in the forties and dry for two days. Sheer heaven. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, just testing the new list. Lets TRY and make a fresh start and not turn every subject into a " I dont agree with what your saying": pissing contest. It does the memory of June and Jean disgrace, to see what started as condolenses , turn into a big fued over where or where not we all go (animals included) when we leave this world. If you dont agree, you dont have to respond EVERY time, AND not every subject has to be beaten into the ground . OKAY NERVE WAS STRUCK i admit. And a little advice (given for free and unsolicited) A little sugar and humor always makes the words better May you all have a very merry Christmas and a Happy New year PS Lisa PeDerson, you have the right idea, i loved your post about the signature lines Michele Noonan Wild Hair Ranch Home of 4 children 6 horses 3 (wishing it was 2) dogs and 5 cats that all need fixing soon Havent done anything famous Home is under construction and my presents arent wrapped
Re: Welcome to the New List
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, steve! Looks good to me? I see we can find out who is on the list? (the command "who")? Again, thanks for all your work Steve..this list is important to me! I don't geel so isolated way up here in Fairbanks! The temp got up to +43 today and I got manes cut, and wormed everybody with liquid Eqvalan (ivermectin). Boy, that's much easier than using the paste! and my vet says its is more effective. Now, if I only could have gotten the farrier out to do their feet...first time in two months it has been warm enough, but the roads were slick sheets of ice, with freezing rain, "frost" building up on the cold pavement, etc. More freezing rain predicted. Then back to -10 to -30 Friday and Christmas! What crazy weather! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where we are GAINING daylight, even if it only half a minute! At 05:53 PM 12/22/1999 -0600, you wrote: >This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Let me initiate the new FjordHorse list by welcoming everyone. The > switch-over seemed to go pretty smoothly to me. Please let me know > right away if anyone has any problems. > >-- >Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA > Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped > scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889) > > > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
