Re: Red Duns/Movie Fjords/Size
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean Ernest wrote: > > My main riding horse is Bjorken, 15-2, who I raised. Gelded at 11 months > but not weaned until 14 months, maybe he grew taller than he would have if > he hadn't been gelded until 2 or 3 and weaned much earlier. I've heard that the long bones of geldings grow more than those of stallions and mares. I don't know if there have been any studies regarding this. > He suits me just fine. Great horses come in packages of all sizes. > Lisa said we looked real good when I was riding Adel in the lesson last > Friday. Good for you! We have "big" horses here also, of the warmblood/thoroughbred variety. I am constantly amazed at how well taller and larger people look on fjords. It's just one of the reasons we really love 'em. Beth Starfire Farm
Re: Red Duns/Movie Fjords/Size
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My main riding horse is Bjorken, 15-2, who I raised. Gelded at 11 months but not weaned until 14 months, maybe he grew taller than he would have if he hadn't been gelded until 2 or 3 and weaned much earlier. He has withers that add a good 2 inches to his height. However, Stella has another son, Anvil's Solvaktig, who is also 15-2. Anyway, Bjorken has good, balanced conformation, a pretty head, a wonderful fjord temperment and remains sound. I suppose he wouldn't be considered "typey" but then when will I ever get to enter him into a Fjord show to know? Meanwhile, I am a big woman, tall (5'9"+ and a bit overweight. :) He suits me just fine. I have a 4 year old filly, Anvil's Adel who is perhaps 14-2 and my instructor/trainer was worried that Adel would be too small for me..My instructor likes the thoroughbreds and warmbloods. I think she is surprized how well Adel is handling my weight. We are taking it very easy, careful of her back. but Lisa said we looked real good when I was riding Adel in the lesson last Friday. I don't think I would look good on a really small Fjord. I sometimes wish I were your size, Karen, but one has to take what they get I guess. I'm working on the weight thing, tho. My old gelding, Bjarne, is also only 14-2 but much stouter than Adel as he is drafty, and he feels great to be on and not as far to the ground as Bjorken! Jean in soggy Fairbanks, Alaska, after it rained all night..but the sun is trying to show. >I can't tell you how turned-off I am when someone tells me, or I overhear >comments about how "neat" it is that such a fjord, or so and so's fjord is >15hh+, or they are only interested in "tall" fjords... So? IMO they become >too spindley legged, and too "horsey" looking. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Red Duns/Movie Fjords/Size
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 05:07 PM 8/7/99 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> next question. how do i scan the microchip in my horse's neck? do you need a special machine, who does it etc? Yes you need to use a microchip scanner to read the chip. As a NFHR Member you can borrow a scanner to read the chip if you so desire. You will have to pay postage & insurance fees only. Contact me privately if you want to borrow one. We have 5 or 6 of them around the country. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: "B. Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Denise! In a mad dash, but will say that I've never hurt a rose with fresh horse manure. I've used it in the garden, too, and its not a hot manure. The only drawback is weeds, since the horse doesn't digest them or whatever, anyway they come out all happy and fertilized. Ha! Bonnie International Encyclopedia Of Horse Breeds http://www.hendricksgallery.com http://members.xoom.com/BHendricks/Gallery1.html - Original Message - From: Denise Delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 12:07 AM Subject: Re: Red Duns/Movie Fjords/Size > This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (snip) > i have a couple of questions for people in the know out there. i have over > a hundred antique and hybrid roses. before i do it, will fresh, hot horse > manure hurt them if i side dress them? does anyone have experience with > fresh poop and roses? will i have to wait for it to compost?
Re: Red Duns/Movie Fjords/Size
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> everyone at the list, i'm back on and over the "virus." sorry to anyone who caught the germ. i agree with karen and margaret about the size of fjords. i go for health and soundness first, then temperment and willingness, followed by comformation and a middle of the road look. not too draughty, not too "horsey" and tall. i'm only five three and getting on a fjord is "just right." i have a couple of questions for people in the know out there. i have over a hundred antique and hybrid roses. before i do it, will fresh, hot horse manure hurt them if i side dress them? does anyone have experience with fresh poop and roses? will i have to wait for it to compost? i know i have to compost my chicken dropping thoroughly. next question. how do i scan the microchip in my horse's neck? do you need a special machine, who does it etc? that's it. i'm thrilled to be "up" again!! denise delgado in cool and thunderheady, mokelumne hill, calif.
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This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "...We should be concerned with breeding horses with correct, balanced proportions, and pleasing temperaments and not worry about size and color." Margaret Strachan Village Farm Nuevo, CA Way to go Margaret! I can't tell you how turned-off I am when someone tells me, or I overhear comments about how "neat" it is that such a fjord, or so and so's fjord is 15hh+, or they are only interested in "tall" fjords... So? IMO they become too spindley legged, and too "horsey" looking. (The draftier ones at least look like inflated fjords w/ usually correct proportions, but I am at a loss for wanting to actually ride and USE one - yes, I have ridden them as I train for other people who own this type, but I can't wait to hitch them). When the native - sorry y'all, I AM gonnna say it - PONY qualities get lost in the attempt at color, refinement and height,or sheer draftiness for draftiness' sake, herein lies the rub for me. I have had the real honor of riding two of the greatest horses of my life: both of them fjords, one a stallion who literally could and would do it all - just ask! and the other a mare, still quite young, who's ready to take on anything as well, in any discipline. ( No names here, as I don't need the self promotional fingers wagging at me in cyberspace!) One I own, the other unfortunatley is not mine, but my point here is that they range in size from just barely 14hh to almost 14.2. Perfection for me - and too in the eyes of judges at Open and fjord shows and Evaluations,on the line and in performance classes. Thanks again Margaret for putting a little "balanced perspective" here on the list. Karen ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Red Duns/Movie Fjords/Size
This message is from: "Margaret Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> About a year ago we were contacted by a company that handles finding livestock for movies. They needed several rideable Fjords, but did not say specifically the movie they were needed for. I only had one rideable horse outside of Valbjorn, the stallion that didn't have a foal at side. It is possible that they were looking for horses for the River Runs Through It movie. I know a different company contacted a breeder in Northern CA with the same request. I have no idea who ultimately supplied the horses for this project. We have two red dun mares. We did not select for the color, but do like it very much. We've sought nice individuals and let color and size fall where they may. I haven't seen a Fjord in a color I don't like. One mare looks palomino in color with a faint red stripe in her mane and tail and a good stripe on her back as well as striping on her knees. The other mare has a very dark red head, dark gray nose, and mousy gray legs with striping. She has a faint red with a few black hairs stripe in her mane and tail. Her forelock is virtually white and the contrast with her dark face is nice. She also has a good dorsal stripe. Both have produced only brown dun foals. Both have no white markings and particularly good black feet. No complaints here, we would be willing to breed to a red dun stallion if he had qualities that complemented our mares. Like I mentioned above, we let color and size fall where they may. As many people want a smaller horse as want a larger horse, as a breeder it all balances out. We bred two full sister TB's, one was 15.1 at maturity, the other over 16.2. The dam was 15.3, the sire 16hh. The old retired TB mare we still have is 16.2, she had a 17.3 hand colt by a 16hh stallion. Another colt by a different 16 hand stallion was 16.3 at 2 1/2 year old. Obviously we've found size hard to predict. We have a very large suckling Fjord filly out of a barely 13.2hh mare. Many people greatly overestimate the size of horses they look at. I once had a vet say my appy gelding was 17.2 when no matter how you measured him he barely hit 16 hands. We should be concerned with breeding horses with correct, balanced proportions, and pleasing temperaments and not worry about size and color. Margaret Strachan Village Farm Nuevo, CA Where the weather is surprisingly cool and Barry and I likely will be freezing tomorrow morning standing out on the Palos Verdes Peninsula working as section timers for the California Classic CDE.
