Re: Sarcoid Treatment
This message is from: Eric Kozowski e...@kozowski.com I had good luck with Xxterra (http://www.vetlineequine.com/xxterra.html) on a TB with a large sarcoid on his ear. I followed the vet's directions, and it didn't look like it was doing anything by the end of the treatment, but eventually the sarcoid started falling off in pieces. Within six months, you couldn't tell there had been a sarcoid there. The hair grew back and it looks completely normal. On 1/26/2011 8:19 AM, Karen McCarthy wrote: Steve thanks for posting that interesting information. The only thing that had worked for one of my horse with a big nasty sarcoid over one eye was the topical application of Exterra (sp?) ointment,(after trying the awful Regressin injections) but I think it was very painful for him. Looks like this is a much longer course of treatment, but causes less discomfort. -- You can see what man made from the seat of an automobile, but the best way to see what god made is from the back of a horse. - Charles M. Russell Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
sarcoid tumor
This message is from: dfle d...@c-magic.com I've had some horses with sarcoid tumors over the years. The vet school has removed some and that has been quite successful. I had one other horse that went to my Amish trainer with a small one -- they used Vicks -- believe it or not a few weeks later it was gone -- wierd -- I don't know if it was really a sarcoid or not, but this horse had some previously that I had surgically removed. I know the vicks works for warts -- gotten those from the cows so maybe. A thought anyway. Rosemary Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Sarcoid Treatment
This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com After having the experience of trying a number of unsuccessful treatments for a sarcoid in the saddle area on my late Anglo-trakehner mare, I found this article interesting: http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=17568 -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Sarcoid Treatment
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Steve thanks for posting that interesting information. The only thing that had worked for one of my horse with a big nasty sarcoid over one eye was the topical application of Exterra (sp?) ointment,(after trying the awful Regressin injections) but I think it was very painful for him. Looks like this is a much longer course of treatment, but causes less discomfort. I always knew there was some other useful purpose for mistletoe than Christmas kissing! When I lived in Calaveras County in Calif. Mistletoe was very common and plentiful, growing in the oak trees. Karen in Oregon Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:51:26 -0600 From: st...@carriagehorse.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Sarcoid Treatment This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com After having the experience of trying a number of unsuccessful treatments for a sarcoid in the saddle area on my late Anglo-trakehner mare, I found this article interesting: http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=17568 -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Sarcoid Treatment
This message is from: Debbie LeBreton tippiegi...@hotmail.com hello and I am sorry for using your email but I am grasping for answer for my old horse. He has brown or light colour water coming out of his bum. My vet thinks that it is oylser but he has been on the medication for over 7 days and no change. I have been thinking of putting him down but if there is hope out there for him, I will try it. He is 27 or that is what I have been told. He looks much younger. He still plays and runs and bucks up a storm. He has a little goat as a friend and he still chases him around when he is feeling frisky (which is every second day). Even with this problem. PLEASE TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS. Debbie From: weeg...@hotmail.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Sarcoid Treatment Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:19:45 + This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Steve thanks for posting that interesting information. The only thing that had worked for one of my horse with a big nasty sarcoid over one eye was the topical application of Exterra (sp?) ointment,(after trying the awful Regressin injections) but I think it was very painful for him. Looks like this is a much longer course of treatment, but causes less discomfort. I always knew there was some other useful purpose for mistletoe than Christmas kissing! When I lived in Calaveras County in Calif. Mistletoe was very common and plentiful, growing in the oak trees. Karen in Oregon Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:51:26 -0600 From: st...@carriagehorse.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Sarcoid Treatment This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com After having the experience of trying a number of unsuccessful treatments for a sarcoid in the saddle area on my late Anglo-trakehner mare, I found this article interesting: http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=17568 -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: sarcoid suggestion
This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] The herb Blood Root is excellent at targeting abnormal cells (i.e. sarcoids and other tumors, warts, etc.) before it will attack normal cells. So it is great at getting rid of Sarcoids. But, after using it to slough the sarcoid off, you will have an open wound on your horse that you need to manage carefully so as not to get any secondary infections. When the wound heals, there may be scar tissue that looks bald. But, that's better than a sarcoid! And yes, to have Blood Root work effectively, the bloodroot should be applied only to the sarcoid, and then covered with a salve to keep it moist. Jen On 7/30/08, jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Gina, did you cover the sarcoid after applying meds? And how or what did you use? A friend has a mini here who was treated by the Vet for a large sarcoid under her chin and now she has bare spots on her face. Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
re: Sarcoid suggestions
This message is from: Cynthia Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting topic on use of the black salve or bloodroot. This is what I am using a form of to treat my Giant Schnauzer's fibrosarcoma. We are using an oral form with two sets of injections to treat it after most of it was surgically removed. There is a list devoted to using bloodroot (black salve) to treat cancer in animals. The good news is that it appears to be working in Brie's situation - at least the prognosis is good. Anyone interested in reading more about blood root to treat cancer should look in my signature line to go to Brie's Diary Blog. -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NFHR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:/www.nfhr.com http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 Brie's Diary Blog - http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011/Brie_Diary.html Dogs (and horses, cm) are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. -Roger Caras The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: sarcoid suggestion
This message is from: Emily Wigley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Gina, for the sarcoid treatment suggestion! I have a boarding client whose little pinto mare has a good sized one at the top of one neck side. She's currently using thuja (a homeopathic) on it, and it's gone through the blistering miserable stage, and I don't think it's doing anything else. I'll pass this helpful experience along! Thank you, Emily Emily Wigley Fish Bowl Farm Vashon Island, Wa www.fishbowlfarm.com ...and Nils, Biscuit (Lite Jenta) and Britta, the Fjords The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: sarcoid suggestion
This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thuja is for warts, probably not powerful enough for sarcoids. Blood Root, also called Black Salve, is for sarcoids. Jen On 7/30/08, Emily Wigley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Emily Wigley [EMAIL PROTECTED] She's currently using thuja (a homeopathic) on it, and it's gone through the blistering miserable stage, and I don't think it's doing anything else. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
sarcoid suggestion
This message is from: Gina Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Fjord Friends, I just wanted to pass along some info about a sarcoid my gelding (non-fjord) has had. Late last summer I noticed a quarter sized rough bald patch on his cheek. I assumed is was a reaction to a bug bite and treated it topically but it never cleared up, and actually started to spread. By late winter I started to suspect it was a verrucose (sp?) sarcoid and when the vet came out for spring vacs, etc she confirmed this. She gave me an expensive caustic product called Xxtterra, warning me that if it wasn't treated promptly it could spread over his whole face! Two treatment courses failed, it kept coming back and was now about 4 inches in diameter. One day when in the local health food store I happened upon an herbal salve of black blood root (which is an ingredient in Xxtterra). It was only $15 for a 2 oz jar and after 2 weeks of daily application to the sarcoid it is almost gone, and the hair is growing back evenly over the lesion! I wouldn't normally plug a product but I am so excited and pleased and wanted to mention it in case anyone else out there is dealing with a stubborn sarcoid! http://www.wiseways.com/black_blood_flyer.pdf this is the link to the product. Hope this can help someone out there! BTW I really enjoyed my first BE as a spectator...hope to bring my fjord girl next year! Gina Larson PF Fjern (and Chester) Menominee, MI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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Herbal sarcoid remedy
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/17/01 7:01:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Gayle thanks for the info. This may be what Steve White has told me and my Vet made reference to. Because of the location and amount of sarcoids Vet thought these shots were best first. Never again. Does this salve smell like pine? I was given a new miracle salve that is being made in Oregon or Calif. from pine, tar etc. Hope my favorite stallion is doing well. Jean Hi Jean, This 'stuff' doesn't really have an odor. It is dark brown and looks rather like soupy molasses. I asked my vet what was in it. He said that he didn't know, that since it was herbal they weren't required to list ingredients? I told him it was probably sludge from some toxic waste dump! I asked if rubber gloves were required when applying, he handed me a fistful. I had to shave the area before applying. The vet warned me that it might cause some tissue swelling. It did, but that soon subsided. It must have caused some sort of sensation because soon after putting it on the first time, he began swatting at it. Minor reaction compared to what your poor Charlie has gone through. After the tumor fell off, a bump still remained underneath the skin. When I asked the vet about that, he told me to discontinue application. That we'd just let it be for now and see if we had gotten it. Time will tell, I guess. Dusty says to tell you 'Hi', that he's FEELIN' GOOD, and thanx for asking. Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR www.fjordhorse.com
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very sorry about this sarcoid problem. I am following it closely here. I would like to see what Steve has to say about it? Hope he publishes his answer on the list. Misha Shota Fjords
sarcoid
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for the repetitious messages, thought I was sending the one to Steve privately. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: sarcoid
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen and Jean Now I am stuck as to whether to try the herbal route as these are big and we want to be sure to get them. When the inflammation subsides we can see if these shots worked. Then make the next decision. Thanks Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Gail thanks for responding. Yes we talked about the various ways but because of the location and size the Vet thought this was the way to go. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Steve, thanks for your interest. This horse of mine is very sensitive and has been through quite a bit recently. Aged 19 and Thoroughbred/trakehner at 17 2+ hands I discovered a sticky bunch of stuff in his groin when my Vet was here. He said he thought it was a sarcoid and in a bad place. He broke off a piece that looked, backside like a small peeled onion. He said there were several and one was quite large. The biopsy confirmed sarcoid. He felt the most successful treatment to date was the regressin, plus it is in such a tender spot. It is in a place you do not check normally. He gave multiple shots directly into the growths last Thurs and Charlie has been in a great deal of pain since with also swollen sheath and edema along the belly. I asked him to come out this afternoon and he said the area was inflamed but no infection. He gave him a shot of bute and one of cortisone and right now he seems much more relaxed. Charley has been eating alright just drags the hind leg where the sarcoids are and moves at a snails pace. The Vet feels he should be better by the end of the second week and I am to continue giving him a bolus, yellow, to help reduce the swelling and about 1 1/2 grams of bute orally twice a day. He intended to give the second series of shots in one month but now says we will wait until six weeks. Charlie, also the name of the Vet has always done a good job so hope we are on the right track. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Mary I had Stillion out today and he gave Charley a shot of bute and of cortisone. Hope this helps as the old boy is rally dragging. He had that founder from the trim, then the splint, then all shots and float, now this. Pretty hard on the old boy. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pam I understand this regressin sp! has been the most successful in getting rid of these ugly things. There seems to always be a reaction and Charley is just a very sensitive creature! There are several sarcoids and big as who bothers to check the groin of a horse? I certainly never and could not get down far enough to look up there. Right where the hind inner leg joins the belly. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, What's the deal with this sarcoid? I think I was out of town when you first had talked about it. Why the big production? Several? One large one? Bad location? Why did your veterinarian choose regressin to treat it? Just curious. Steve Steve and Amy White Prairieholm Farm Waterloo, Nebraska
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/3/00 10:50:18 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you ask the vet if next time he might want to consider freezing them off instead? Hope he's doing better today! As I recall, they were described as much too big and involved for that. Gail D. Vinson Las Cruces, NM
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This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, considering all the pain and discomfort your horse is going through, I think I would first try the Herbal route for sarcoids if possible, then consider the other options if I had to treat another Sarcoid. Jean, Maybe instead of more shots of the Regressin, you should try the Ditton Herbs and Thuja Ointment. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, 10F degrees at my home, zero at the Airport. Winter is here! I thought I would bring you up to date on Charley's sarcoid procedure. Last Thurs the Vet gave him approximately thirty shots in the large sarcoids in his groin. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought I would bring you up to date on Charley's sarcoid procedure. Sad boy. Vet is saying we may have to put off the next shots for two months instead of one. Really do not like this sarcoid business. Jean Jean, Sounds like the old boy's immune system is really working overtime!! But then thirty shots is a lot of 'immune stimulant'. Glendar only got about 4 shots at a time, as what he had was much smaller. Made him pretty unhappy(sore eye) for about 3 to 5 days, then he seemed to shake it off and never looked back. Of course, Glendar is a Fjord and I suspect maybe a bit more stoic about things. Also he is much younger than Charley. He was only three when his sarcoid was treated. Probably still 'too young to know he was hurting'. Hang in there - the results will be worth it if the treatment works. I've seen three horses that it did work on and they are all still just fine - no recurrence. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, poor Charley and poor Jean! Did you ask the vet if next time he might want to consider freezing them off instead? Hope he's doing better today! Pamela
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought I would bring you up to date on Charley's sarcoid procedure. Last Thurs the Vet gave him approximately thirty shots in the large sarcoids in his groin. He was sedated but not out. Risky for the Vet but Charley never offered to kick. Doing his best to keep standing. After two days he began to have considerable pain and his sheath began to swell. On the third day I gave him a bolus to bring down the swelling. On the fourth day he was in pain so I gave him a gram of bute. Meant to give him more but the plunger stuck. He had a temp of 102. Sheath a bit more swollen. On fifth day sheath quite swollen, temp normal and gave him two grams of bute. Much improved spirits. On sixth day belly is showing edema, gave another bolus for swelling. Seventh day sore and more edema. Gave another bolus and put the mare in with him to see if more exercise will help. Sad boy. Vet is saying we may have to put off the next shots for two months instead of one. I am also giving him wheat germ oil and vit C to try and help. Really do not like this sarcoid business. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Alison Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean, You were asking if anyone knew about a disease transmitted by birds. Sleeping sickness is transmitted by birds. Alison Bakken in Alberta
Re: sarcoid
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/16/00 8:04:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am curious as my vet says sarcoids are not cancer, why your vet would treat with chemotherapy. Good questions. Guess it's just a very strong drug that works on killing cells running wild? (one of our vets will have to answer this one). If the second treatment didn't work (but it did) the vet would have then used the freezing method. After reading about the good results and non-reoccurence with the herbal stuff, I think I'll look into this as a maintenance thing. Pamela
Re: sarcoid
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks alot Karen, I will check the archives too. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: sarcoid
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had similar good results as Jean E. with the Ditton Mix and Thuja ointment in treating sarcoids. A 5 y.o. gelding of mine had a huge sarcoid over his eye, and we tried the Regressin treatment, 3 x. It caused him to go off feed for 2-3 days after, he was in pain, it swelled and it bled at the site. It never showed any signs of diminishing.We tried for 3 months. So,I did an online search, saw the Hilton Herb site, emailed them w/ questions, and they were very helpful. Took almost 2 months for it to disappear completely after twice daily treatments. I think we had very good results w/ the herbal route. Even my vet agreed (after) that he thought it was a good way to go. Cost wise, the Regressin cost me about $95. per shot. The Ditton /Thuja stuff cost about $90.00 for all. Just wondering, but didn't we have the sarcoid discussion about 3-4 months ago? Also, my vet did not reccomend freezing off, but I can't remember why Good luck with your boy, Jean. Karen _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Jean and I will check out those herbs and Horse mg, I did hear about a virus called Nile and just now reading your mail put it together. Wow. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Pam for the information about the virus and sarcoid. I am curious as my vet says sarcoids are not cancer, why your vet would treat with chemotherapy. Or am I fixating on the cancer issue? This is a big one and may have been from fly irritation as we also had billions of the dirty things. I am reluctant to use fly spray but no more. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, Surely you have heard of the West Nile Virus? It's been in the news all summer! They even canceled the World Singles Driving competition to be held at Gladstone in New Jersey because of it! I did wonder if the mini died of something like that. Wonder if they'd had their Eastern and Western Equine Encephalitis shots? my vet advises horse owners up here in Alaska to vaccinates against Eastern and Western EE. Sarcoids: there is an Anti-Tumor Drug called REGRESSIN which is injected into the tumor before other treatment, also some Herbal treatments work, such as Hilton DITTON herbal mixture available from CHAMISA RIDGE. THUJA ointment (also available from Chamisa) is used along with the herbs. After I had a Sarcoid removed from Stella's jaw, I ordered a big bucket of the Ditton herbs and the Thuja ointment. She loved the herbs, fed a scoop in her feed every day for a month. They smelled wonderful. So far the sarcoid has not recurred (knock on wood). Does your vet know about the REGRESSIN? Look up sarcoids in the online editeion of THE HORSE magazine. Good luck! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska ANother fantastic day b=for October, 43 degrees and sunny ( If only it were April with spring ahead instead of winter!) t finally said he would guess a sarcoid, a big one. .. and we discussed a biopsy to be certain and what procedures to take. He said there were several alternatives if this is what it is. Surgery, which he is reluctant about because of the location. Xray, which is what my book suggests, or freezing. My Vet favors the freezing. .. I just wonder what others have experienced and I have heard they tend to return? Also, my Vet told me there is a very bad disease around New Jersey, Pa. State and that region which is brought by birds. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Jean, First, I think the disease your vet is talking about is the West Nile Virus. Something that's definitely going around in New York. A friend of mine from there first had lyme disease, then last year after a flood in her basement, she got very VERY ill. The health department monitored her blood for the longest time, but didn't mention West Nile. Didn't mention ANY disease to her, but she's very suspicious. She's a young, healthy lady so she kicked whatever it was that got her. On sarcoids, I had a scare a couple months ago with Juniper and a sarcoid in her ear. It was a choice between breeding her, and not treating the sarcoid, in which case it would probably grow, or keeping her barren this year and treating the sarcoid. Much as I wanted a foal for next year, I had to take care of her health issues first. Our vet cut the bulging part off and injected the area with chemo drugs (Juniper was not very happy about this although she was sedated to the gills). A month later the dashed thing was still there. Retreated it. A month later it was gone. It's only been 2 months. The rumour is that sarcoids become prevalent during fly season. Maybe irritate the tissue? I don't know. But the flies WERE more bothersome this year. Next year she'll be liberally annointed with fly spray each day and turned out with fly mask with pointy ears attached. Hope all goes well for you and Charley. Pamela
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well the routine shots,sheaths and floating ended up differently than I had hoped. Everybody got tranquilized and when my big horse was under the vet checked an area I had just discovered on the inside hind where it joins the body. He had had a swollen pastern for a week but I thought he had just torqued his hoof playing. Just to be on the safe side I looked higher up the leg in case the edema was coming from a wound. That was when I touched a lot of crusty stuff. The Vet broke off an ugly looking thing that looked at first like a peeled onion. He knows how much this horse means to me so was being diplomatic but finally said he would guess a sarcoid, a big one. First I thought cancer then got my mind in gear (I had already buried Charley and was in a rest home) and we discussed a biopsy to be certain and what procedures to take. He said there were several alternatives if this is what it is. Surgery, which he is reluctant about because of the location. Xray, which is what my book suggests, or freezing. My Vet favors the freezing. We will knock Charley out on the grass and hope he goes down on his correct side but I have some sturdy trees to tie the leg to. I just wonder what others have experienced and I have heard they tend to return? Charley is 19 and has been quite healthy to this point. Also, my Vet told me there is a very bad disease around New Jersey, Pa. State and that region which is brought by birds. Horses from that area are being banned from Wash. State which is a bit comical as no one pulls over horse trailers entering the state. The disease has killed horses, birds and small pets and several people. Anyone heard of it? I wonder if that might have been what happened to the mini? Well with all this good news who needs bad? Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Brenda Simonson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have a horse that developed what I thought was a sarcoid (multiple actually). The vet that we use doesn't believe in the injections and tried to freeze the first one off. It didn't work. She then cut it out. That one never came back. Then he got one on by the corner of his mouth. We cut that one out too. It came back. Then he got one on the side of his neck. I got frustrated and found some herbal remedy - thuja ointment and hilton ditton herbs. About 8 months after being on the therapy I noticed that both spots were shrinking. They are still shrinking. I don't know if it was the herbs or just time - and he has been off the herbs for quite some time. (Some articles I have read say to leave them alone and they will go away - sort of like warts in humans.) Just my two cents worth. Brenda Yeah Brenda!!! I have been lurking on the sarcoid thread a bit...I too had a gelding who came back to me after a couple of years w/ a well developed sarcoid growth over his eye. I went the route of the injections. VEEERY expensive, and in my case, I think utterly worthless. ( 3 injs. w4-6 wk intervals, I think.)It just dragged on.. I did a search for a homeopathic remedy, and I came upon the Chamisa Ridge catalog,(online). They offered the Ditton mix, man. by Hilton Herbs in conjunction w/ the topical application of Thuja salve.(Yew tree / anti-cancer drug). Arne was in great pain, didn't eat for a day or two after the anti-cancer inj's. (Very bad for a weegee to go off feed!) The thing burst and bled and was generally VERY painful and more disgusting...and did not resolve itself. The Ditton worked like a charm. I sold him after one month into the herbal/homeopathiic treatment, and his new people were very vigilant about his dosing. They called me a month and a half later and told me it had shrunk by half, and 3 mos. later it was ALL GONE! BTW, my vet was very open to trying the homeopahic route, as he was not very satisfied either w/ the anti-cancer inj. Nite! Karen in Carson City, NV (...I am still on a high from taking my 3 yo Lillie out for her first trail ride down and into the river this eve. A star! she was Sooo good!) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My horse is getting a rather large sarcoid near the tip on his ear. It started out about the size of a pea and now, it is about the size of a grape. The vet recommends removing it before it gets bigger and more difficult to remove since it can affect the ear leather. He wants to have it removed with a laser, which is a common method now, apparently. Has anyone else had this done? My reluctancy to do this is because the horse will have to be anesthetized and put on an operating table for the laser. However, if it is just cut off, there is no guarantee the ear won't be damaged and he could end up with the tip of the ear gone or worse. I wish the sarcoid was in another spot!
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This message is from: Brenda Simonson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have a horse that developed what I thought was a sarcoid (multiple actually). The vet that we use doesn't believe in the injections and tried to freeze the first one off. It didn't work. She then cut it out. That one never came back. Then he got one on by the corner of his mouth. We cut that one out too. It came back. Then he got one on the side of his neck. I got frustrated and found some herbal remedy - thuja ointment and hilton ditton herbs. About 8 months after being on the therapy I noticed that both spots were shrinking. They are still shrinking. I don't know if it was the herbs or just time - and he has been off the herbs for quite some time. (Some articles I have read say to leave them alone and they will go away - sort of like warts in humans.) Just my two cents worth. Brenda
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/17/00 4:56:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember that I had one fjord who developed a sarcoid. He was treated with two sets of injections of an immune system stimulant, I believe, and it went away never to return. This is good. We gave Juniper her first injection (hopefully her last) today. Glad to hear your horse's never returned! Pamela
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This message is from: Rebecca Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Pamela, I remember that I had one fjord who developed a sarcoid. He was treated with two sets of injections of an immune system stimulant, I believe, and it went away never to return. Becky
