date:20051018


Yes of course
Le 19 oct. 05, à 07:50, Muzak a écrit :


Have you restarted the Flash 8 IDE after installing?

regards,
Muzak

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Subject: [Flashcoders] generate a mxp doc with Extension manager 1.7



Hi,
what's the path for flash 8 to install directly a command.

in MX 2004 this file ran :

but in Flash 8 after installation , layersToClip command is not  
visible in menu Command ?


Thx

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Re: [Flashcoders] generate a mxp doc with Extension manager 1.7

2005-10-18 Thread Muzak

Have you restarted the Flash 8 IDE after installing?

regards,
Muzak

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Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:34 AM
Subject: [Flashcoders] generate a mxp doc with Extension manager 1.7


> Hi,
> what's the path for flash 8 to install directly a command.
>
> in MX 2004 this file ran :
>
> but in Flash 8 after installation , layersToClip command is not visible in 
> menu Command ?
>
> Thx
>
> JP


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[Flashcoders] generate a mxp doc with Extension manager 1.7


Hi,
what's the path for flash 8 to install directly a command.

in MX 2004 this file ran :




http://jeanphiblog.media-box.net"; />






















		   
   >> HERE ?





but in Flash 8 after installation , layersToClip command is not visible 
in menu Command ?


Thx

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Re: [Flashcoders] Multichannel sound?

2005-10-18 Thread John Grden

Sorry man, you're going to have to use some sort of wrapper application like
Director to do something like this. The only thing MM did for audio this go
around was allow 32 voices at one time (as opposed to 8).

hth,

On 10/15/05, Brock Craft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I am authoring an application that requires multiple sound outputs - that
> is, 8 different output channels rather than the usual two (LEFT/RIGHT).
> This
> takes advantage of a special 8-channel soundcard and driver (called an
> ASIO
> driver). We're not talking 7.1 cinema. This is a studio production
> soundcard
> (Terratec Phase28) with 8 output cables coming off of the PCI card.
> Is anyone aware of how I can author my Flash app to take advantage of the
> driver and to direct sound to various outputs?
> I have heard it can be done in Director via a link to Max or Cubase, but I
> am not familiar with Director.
> Any help much appreciated!!
> Regards,
> -B
>
> --
> Brock Craft
> http://www.brock.craft.org
>
> UCL Interaction Centre (UCLIC)
> Remax House
> 31/32 Alfred Place
> LONDON WC1E 7DP
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[Flashcoders] text-wrapping around picture

2005-10-18 Thread Patrick Matte

Does anybody have any idea on how to achieve a "text-wrapping around 
picture" effect like in the picture url below? Do you think its possible 
with only one dynamic field ?


http://www.patrickmatte.com/stuff/groovie.jpg

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Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2andFlash9 :communicationor cacophony ?

...actually, the comments to this one provide better parlay fodder.
http://www.jessewarden.com/archives/2005/01/why_flash_devel.html

- Original Message - 
From: "JesterXL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Flashcoders mailing list" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2andFlash9 
:communicationor cacophony ?

I currently work as a full-time Flex contractor.  I label myself as a Rich
Internet Application Architect, but at the end of the day, I'm coding
ActionScript 2 and MXML... with trips to Fireworks & Flash every so often.
I chose to change my career to full-time Flex because heavily coded projects
in Flash don't work as well when doing GUI development.  When weeks of your
dev time is spent coding graphic logic (put this control here, size this
way, make this skin work, etc.), you're not spending time doing what is most
important; building your application.

Many would argue that those steps are included.  Those people are Flash
Developers, not Flex Developers.

So, I have a hard time answering your question; while FlexBuilder 2's
support for ActionScript projects is made for a few reasons, one of which to
entice those who have no real care for MXML and just want a better coding
IDE, I couldn't imagine going back to compiling in the IDE.  Flash,
currently, is my graphic SWF maker.  I then use those SWF's to embed
graphics into my Flex SWF's, not the other way around.  Flex is point-man,
Flash support.  Author in Flex, design in Flash.

I can't remember if it's there or not, but there is a root level class, like
MXML's Application, that you can utilize; basically _root.__proto__ =
YourClass, but can't remember the name, and don't see it in the AS3 docs in
a quick, cursory glance.  If you don't want  you can extend
that class instead.

It's not a line, but an array of types of work, and degree's that work is
utilized to.  People can create applications in 18 month cycles, or 18 days.
Those who do the latter probably would have a hard time seeing the value of
Flex 1.5, but give me 10 minutes with 'em, and I'll have them hooked on Flex
2.

Not sure how much you participated in the arguments and rantings about Flex
in the past, but the main stop gap to any, and all dicussions about Flex,
and where they ALL stopped was price.  Yeah, so pricing isn't announced yet,
but $1000 give or take keeps people talking vs. $30k+ and people laughing at
me predicting the downfall of the Flash Developer Golden Years.

The price gap is removed, so now we can continue talking again. Case in
point, suddenly you CAN sell your clients (including your boss) on what Flex
gives for 3 reasons; 1, you can afford it now, 2, it's a better way to
develop RIA's (team or not), 3, when it comes out, Flex developers will have
the new AS3 tools in ready to go software, Flash Developers will have an
alpha that doesn't give you 100% of what Flex 2 has to offer.

Flex 2 isn't just builder; it's the amazing features & speed of Flash Player
8.5, the more powerful and helpful language ActionScript 3, the better
component set (that's been better since Flex 1.0 btw, which was over a year
ago), and most intriguing of all the Enterprise Services 2.

So the work you do, to what degree, and where it fits in the above isn't
something that can be answered in 1 setence, nor in email reply writing
sitting. There are those who dabble, and Flash is the pefect blending of
art, engineering, and fun, hence why I've setup a permanent abode over at
Flashnewbie; they aren't going anywhere for a long time.  Many here will see
the light, many won't, and a lot will fall in the middle; using both when
and were applicable.  Me?  I've cross over to the Flex side, 90%.  Flash
still rocks, and can do a lot that Flex can't, mainly on the "put the cool
in 'Rich'" side.

However, joining Flexcoders last year, and seeing the amount of Macromedia
resources put towards that community, the amount of energy and fervor that
Enterprise people were putting into it... it just felt right and wrong at
the same time.

...this email is on the verge of becoming another 2 pages.  Suffice it to
say, I've been asked to update the article I wrote over 10 months ago in a
vain attempt to convince you all to convert early so as to prevent the
coping process that many are going through now.  Hopefully that'll be more
informative on that last part.

http://www.flashmagazine.com/1061

In the meantime, explore and get hooked.

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From: "David Stiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Flashcoders mailing list'" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2andFlash9
:communication or cacophony ?

> Go try it.  Build something small, and you'll be on
> board lickety-split.

Heh, you can't build *anything* yet less than 240KB!  :-p

Okay, now, chuckles aside ... Jesse, I know just from
subscribing to this list for a while that you're a long-time Flash dev,
in addition to

[Flashcoders] JSFL : instancename


Hi all,

i've created a JSFL command to select layers and convert element in clip
I use it when i import freehand or Illustrator in Flash.

here is my code :

 function layerToClip()
 {
var layers = fl.getDocumentDOM().getTimeline().layers.length;
for(var i = 0; i < layers; i++){
 fl.getDocumentDOM().getTimeline().setSelectedLayer s(i);
 fl.getDocumentDOM().getTimeline().setSelectedFrame s(0, 0);
 var nomscalk=fl.getDocumentDOM().getTimeline().layers[i].name;
 fl.trace(nomscalk);
 fl.getDocumentDOM().convertToSymbol("movie clip", nomscalk, "top 
left");

 }
 }
 this. layerToClip();

 that's run but i would like to change also the instancenames of the 
created clips with name of layers : nomscalk


thanks

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Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2andFlash9 :communication or cacophony ?

I currently work as a full-time Flex contractor.  I label myself as a Rich 
Internet Application Architect, but at the end of the day, I'm coding 
ActionScript 2 and MXML... with trips to Fireworks & Flash every so often. 
I chose to change my career to full-time Flex because heavily coded projects 
in Flash don't work as well when doing GUI development.  When weeks of your 
dev time is spent coding graphic logic (put this control here, size this 
way, make this skin work, etc.), you're not spending time doing what is most 
important; building your application.

Many would argue that those steps are included.  Those people are Flash 
Developers, not Flex Developers.

So, I have a hard time answering your question; while FlexBuilder 2's 
support for ActionScript projects is made for a few reasons, one of which to 
entice those who have no real care for MXML and just want a better coding 
IDE, I couldn't imagine going back to compiling in the IDE.  Flash, 
currently, is my graphic SWF maker.  I then use those SWF's to embed 
graphics into my Flex SWF's, not the other way around.  Flex is point-man, 
Flash support.  Author in Flex, design in Flash.

I can't remember if it's there or not, but there is a root level class, like 
MXML's Application, that you can utilize; basically _root.__proto__ = 
YourClass, but can't remember the name, and don't see it in the AS3 docs in 
a quick, cursory glance.  If you don't want  you can extend 
that class instead.

It's not a line, but an array of types of work, and degree's that work is 
utilized to.  People can create applications in 18 month cycles, or 18 days. 
Those who do the latter probably would have a hard time seeing the value of 
Flex 1.5, but give me 10 minutes with 'em, and I'll have them hooked on Flex 
2.

Not sure how much you participated in the arguments and rantings about Flex 
in the past, but the main stop gap to any, and all dicussions about Flex, 
and where they ALL stopped was price.  Yeah, so pricing isn't announced yet, 
but $1000 give or take keeps people talking vs. $30k+ and people laughing at 
me predicting the downfall of the Flash Developer Golden Years.

The price gap is removed, so now we can continue talking again. Case in 
point, suddenly you CAN sell your clients (including your boss) on what Flex 
gives for 3 reasons; 1, you can afford it now, 2, it's a better way to 
develop RIA's (team or not), 3, when it comes out, Flex developers will have 
the new AS3 tools in ready to go software, Flash Developers will have an 
alpha that doesn't give you 100% of what Flex 2 has to offer.

Flex 2 isn't just builder; it's the amazing features & speed of Flash Player 
8.5, the more powerful and helpful language ActionScript 3, the better 
component set (that's been better since Flex 1.0 btw, which was over a year 
ago), and most intriguing of all the Enterprise Services 2.

So the work you do, to what degree, and where it fits in the above isn't 
something that can be answered in 1 setence, nor in email reply writing 
sitting. There are those who dabble, and Flash is the pefect blending of 
art, engineering, and fun, hence why I've setup a permanent abode over at 
Flashnewbie; they aren't going anywhere for a long time.  Many here will see 
the light, many won't, and a lot will fall in the middle; using both when 
and were applicable.  Me?  I've cross over to the Flex side, 90%.  Flash 
still rocks, and can do a lot that Flex can't, mainly on the "put the cool 
in 'Rich'" side.

However, joining Flexcoders last year, and seeing the amount of Macromedia 
resources put towards that community, the amount of energy and fervor that 
Enterprise people were putting into it... it just felt right and wrong at 
the same time.

...this email is on the verge of becoming another 2 pages.  Suffice it to 
say, I've been asked to update the article I wrote over 10 months ago in a 
vain attempt to convince you all to convert early so as to prevent the 
coping process that many are going through now.  Hopefully that'll be more 
informative on that last part.

http://www.flashmagazine.com/1061

In the meantime, explore and get hooked.





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From: "David Stiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Flashcoders mailing list'" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2andFlash9 
:communication or cacophony ?


> Go try it.  Build something small, and you'll be on
> board lickety-split.

Heh, you can't build *anything* yet less than 240KB!  :-p

Okay, now, chuckles aside ... Jesse, I know just from
subscribing to this list for a while that you're a long-time Flash dev,
in addition to being a Flex dev.

I played with Flex Builder 2 a bit today and I'll admit, for
RIA-type apps, this looks very, *very* promising.  Given what Flex seems
geared for, what's your take on how to use Flex Builder 2 for more
traditional (though heavily coded) movies?  That is, using FB2 only for
writing AS classes, and -- wh

Re: [Flashcoders] Stylesheet.transform


Ahh nice to know,

was starting to look around :)
thx for sharing Patrick

Alain

Patrick Matte wrote:


Let me answer my own question : )

This code will transform the ".menu" css style to a TextFormat object :

var styleObj:Object = my_styleSheet.getStyle(".menu");
var styleFormat:TextFormat = my_styleSheet.transform(styleObj);
trace(styleFormat.font)



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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:20 PM
Subject: [Flashcoders] Stylesheet.transform


Hi, I'd like to use the TextFormat.getTextExtent() method but first i 
have to transform my loaded CSS into a TextFomat.


Is there a way to transform a style from a css to a TextFormat object ?

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Re: [Flashcoders] Stylesheet.transform

2005-10-18 Thread Patrick Matte


Let me answer my own question : )

This code will transform the ".menu" css style to a TextFormat object :

var styleObj:Object = my_styleSheet.getStyle(".menu");
var styleFormat:TextFormat = my_styleSheet.transform(styleObj);
trace(styleFormat.font)



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From: "Patrick Matte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Flashcoders mailing list" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:20 PM
Subject: [Flashcoders] Stylesheet.transform


Hi, I'd like to use the TextFormat.getTextExtent() method but first i have 
to transform my loaded CSS into a TextFomat.


Is there a way to transform a style from a css to a TextFormat object ?

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[Flashcoders] Stylesheet.transform

2005-10-18 Thread Patrick Matte

Hi, I'd like to use the TextFormat.getTextExtent() method but first i have 
to transform my loaded CSS into a TextFomat.


Is there a way to transform a style from a css to a TextFormat object ?

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Re: [Flashcoders] dispatch event in 8


Hi Amir,

I believe you have a scope problem here. The compiler doesn't know wich 
object is dispatching the event.
You should use your dispatcher object or instance to call that method. 
Also you now need to initialize your dispatcher object to the 
EventDispatcher class


for exemple :

   import mx.events.EventDispatcher;

   function dispatchEvent() {};
   function addEventListener() {};
   function removeEventListener() {};

   var myDispatcher:Object = new Object();
   mx.events.EventDispatcher.initialize(myDispatcher);

   var myListener:Object = new Object();
   myListener.onEvent = function() {
  trace("onEvent triggered");
   };

   myDispatcher.addEventListener("onEvent", myListener);



then later in your code you can trigger the event on a button click like 
this :


   myBtn.onRelease = function() {
  sendEvent();
   };

   function sendEvent():Void {
   var eventObject:Object = {target:myDispatcher, type:'onEvent'};
   myDispatcher.dispatchEvent(eventObject);
   }


This is how you should use events in Flash 8, read the docs, look for 
tutorials and you'll see similar examples or better


Hope this helps

Alain

Amir Cicak wrote:

Hello, after upgrading to flash 8 following line does not dispatch event 
anymore:

dispatchEvent({type:"klik", target:this, link:Tekst});
It works ok in flash 7. Anyone knows what could be the problem? I made 
component and this code is in components class. Are there some new things I 
need to watch out for in flash 8 related to event dipatching, initialising 
dispatcher, class, component, linkage, etc.? Thank in advance...


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[Flashcoders] Multichannel sound?

2005-10-18 Thread Brock Craft

Hi all,
 I am authoring an application that requires multiple sound outputs - that
is, 8 different output channels rather than the usual two (LEFT/RIGHT). This
takes advantage of a special 8-channel soundcard and driver (called an ASIO
driver). We're not talking 7.1 cinema. This is a studio production soundcard
(Terratec Phase28) with 8 output cables coming off of the PCI card.
 Is anyone aware of how I can author my Flash app to take advantage of the
driver and to direct sound to various outputs?
 I have heard it can be done in Director via a link to Max or Cubase, but I
am not familiar with Director.
 Any help much appreciated!!
 Regards,
-B

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http://www.brock.craft.org

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Re: [Flashcoders] .onLoad works in AS1, breaks in Flash 7



Hi Miles, as Rahul stated, you should try to put the L of Load to 
lowercase load, also it would be best to put your url in a variable :

var myUrl:String = "http://"+host+"feed_issuedates.php";;
varGetDates.load(myUrl);

it's cleaner and you can reuse myUrl variable anytime you want, instead 
of writing down the whole thing.


as for local to network testing goes, Flash 7 is not as severe as Flash 
8, but it is good to set your crossdomain.xml, it often blocks your code 
from linking to outside sources.


Try changing the case of the 'L' and see where this gets you ... 
sometimes it's just a small syntax error that takes your project down !


good luck,
Alain

Rahul wrote:


Hi Alain,

It's not working in Flash 7 b'cos u r using upper case 'L' in Load method.
Try using this "varGetDates.load( "http://"; + host +
"feed_issuedates.php");" a lower case 'l' for Load and this should work in
both the versions of Flash.

Regards,
Rahul

 



Miles Thompson wrote:


Alain,

I've adapted the code somewhat, to the extent it closely mimics the 
examples whown in the docs. For example varGetDates = New LoadVars; is 
changed to var varGetDates:LoadVars = new LoadVars();, and I've added 
type declarations to the other variables declared in the very first 
frame.


"success" is not declared anywhere, though now it has ":Boolean" added 
to it.


I've also added the crossdomain.xml file, my thinking being that the 
data was not being returned because I was doing a debug test on my 
local machine, but the data and scripts are at www.allnovascotia.com.


I'm finding this very puzzling, and of course had assumed it would be 
a simple "save as Flash 7, compile and we're done" scenario.


Thanks for responding - Miles


At 11:24 PM 10/18/2005, Alain Rousseau wrote:


Have you verified that you compiled in Flash 7 using AS1 and not AS2 ?
if not you might need to adapt your code a little to work with AS2 
compiler.


Miles Thompson wrote:


This code works in AS1 (Flash 6) but "success" never occurs in Flash 7.
What could I be doing wrong?

function getIssueDates()
{
varGetDates = new LoadVars();
//varGetDates.cacheKiller = new Date().getTime();
varGetDates.Load( "http://"; + host + "feed_issuedates.php");
varGetDates.onLoad = function( success )
{
if (success)
{
_root.issuedates = varGetDates.issuedates;
} else
{
// provide today's date
today = new Date();
issuedates = string( today.getFullYear() ) +"-";
issuedates = issuedates + string( today.getMonth() + 1) 
+ "-";

issuedates = issuedates + string( today.getDate() );
} // if(success)
  etc., etc.
 }
}

Note: Host is set in the first frame through an inclusion: #include 
"settings.as". Host shows up in the degugger variables window as 
"www.allnovascotia.com/test/"  What is passed to varGetDates.Load is 
"http://www.allnovascotia.com/test/feed_issuedates.php";


A trace( varGetDates.issuedates) inserted immediately before 
"if(success)" returns an empty string. Same statement, following the 
if(success) is never evaluated.


No conversion was followed, the previous Flash MX version was opened 
using Flash MX 2004, and then simply Save As'd to a new location; 
when warned that the file would no longer be openable in Flash MX I 
clicked on OK.


Have I missed something really basic?

I'm compiling as ActionScript 1 in the Publish settings.

A steer in the right direction will be greatly appreciated - Miles 
Thompson



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RE: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 andFlash9 :communication or cacophony ?

2005-10-18 Thread David Stiller

> Go try it.  Build something small, and you'll be on
> board lickety-split.

Heh, you can't build *anything* yet less than 240KB!  :-p

Okay, now, chuckles aside ... Jesse, I know just from
subscribing to this list for a while that you're a long-time Flash dev,
in addition to being a Flex dev.

I played with Flex Builder 2 a bit today and I'll admit, for
RIA-type apps, this looks very, *very* promising.  Given what Flex seems
geared for, what's your take on how to use Flex Builder 2 for more
traditional (though heavily coded) movies?  That is, using FB2 only for
writing AS classes, and -- when the time comes -- possibly even using
the Flash IDE to publish?  I haven't toyed with it enough yet, but for
example, I don't see a way to create a project without also creating an
MXML document.  Of course, so far, I would *have* to use MXML, but when
Flash 9 arrives (possibly), I may not.

You addressed earlier the AA-like steps of Flex acceptance, and
among your points was the line every dev must draw in regard to the
types of apps s/he develops.  RIAs ... games?  Where is that line for
you?  Obivously, anyone else who wants to reply, please jump in!


David
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Re: [Flashcoders] .onLoad works in AS1, breaks in Flash 7

2005-10-18 Thread Miles Thompson


Alain,

I've adapted the code somewhat, to the extent it closely mimics the 
examples whown in the docs. For example varGetDates = New LoadVars; is 
changed to var varGetDates:LoadVars = new LoadVars();, and I've added type 
declarations to the other variables declared in the very first frame.


"success" is not declared anywhere, though now it has ":Boolean" added to it.

I've also added the crossdomain.xml file, my thinking being that the data 
was not being returned because I was doing a debug test on my local 
machine, but the data and scripts are at www.allnovascotia.com.


I'm finding this very puzzling, and of course had assumed it would be a 
simple "save as Flash 7, compile and we're done" scenario.


Thanks for responding - Miles


At 11:24 PM 10/18/2005, Alain Rousseau wrote:

Have you verified that you compiled in Flash 7 using AS1 and not AS2 ?
if not you might need to adapt your code a little to work with AS2 compiler.

Miles Thompson wrote:


This code works in AS1 (Flash 6) but "success" never occurs in Flash 7.
What could I be doing wrong?

function getIssueDates()
{
varGetDates = new LoadVars();
//varGetDates.cacheKiller = new Date().getTime();
varGetDates.Load( "http://"; + host + "feed_issuedates.php");
varGetDates.onLoad = function( success )
{
if (success)
{
_root.issuedates = varGetDates.issuedates;
} else
{
// provide today's date
today = new Date();
issuedates = string( today.getFullYear() ) +"-";
issuedates = issuedates + string( today.getMonth() + 1) + "-";
issuedates = issuedates + string( today.getDate() );
} // if(success)
  etc., etc.
 }
}

Note: Host is set in the first frame through an inclusion: #include 
"settings.as". Host shows up in the degugger variables window as 
"www.allnovascotia.com/test/"  What is passed to varGetDates.Load is 
"http://www.allnovascotia.com/test/feed_issuedates.php";


A trace( varGetDates.issuedates) inserted immediately before 
"if(success)" returns an empty string. Same statement, following the 
if(success) is never evaluated.


No conversion was followed, the previous Flash MX version was opened 
using Flash MX 2004, and then simply Save As'd to a new location; when 
warned that the file would no longer be openable in Flash MX I clicked on OK.


Have I missed something really basic?

I'm compiling as ActionScript 1 in the Publish settings.

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Re: [Flashcoders] .onLoad works in AS1, breaks in Flash 7

2005-10-18 Thread Rahul

Hi Alain,

It's not working in Flash 7 b'cos u r using upper case 'L' in Load method.
Try using this "varGetDates.load( "http://"; + host +
"feed_issuedates.php");" a lower case 'l' for Load and this should work in
both the versions of Flash.

Regards,
Rahul

- Original Message -
From: "Alain Rousseau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Flashcoders mailing list" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] .onLoad works in AS1, breaks in Flash 7


> Have you verified that you compiled in Flash 7 using AS1 and not AS2 ?
> if not you might need to adapt your code a little to work with AS2
compiler.
>
> Miles Thompson wrote:
>
> > This code works in AS1 (Flash 6) but "success" never occurs in Flash 7.
> > What could I be doing wrong?
> >
> > function getIssueDates()
> > {
> > varGetDates = new LoadVars();
> > //varGetDates.cacheKiller = new Date().getTime();
> > varGetDates.Load( "http://"; + host + "feed_issuedates.php");
> > varGetDates.onLoad = function( success )
> > {
> > if (success)
> > {
> > _root.issuedates = varGetDates.issuedates;
> > } else
> > {
> > // provide today's date
> > today = new Date();
> > issuedates = string( today.getFullYear() ) +"-";
> > issuedates = issuedates + string( today.getMonth() + 1) +
> > "-";
> > issuedates = issuedates + string( today.getDate() );
> > } // if(success)
> >   etc., etc.
> >  }
> > }
> >
> > Note: Host is set in the first frame through an inclusion: #include
> > "settings.as". Host shows up in the degugger variables window as
> > "www.allnovascotia.com/test/"  What is passed to varGetDates.Load is
> > "http://www.allnovascotia.com/test/feed_issuedates.php";
> >
> > A trace( varGetDates.issuedates) inserted immediately before
> > "if(success)" returns an empty string. Same statement, following the
> > if(success) is never evaluated.
> >
> > No conversion was followed, the previous Flash MX version was opened
> > using Flash MX 2004, and then simply Save As'd to a new location; when
> > warned that the file would no longer be openable in Flash MX I clicked
> > on OK.
> >
> > Have I missed something really basic?
> >
> > I'm compiling as ActionScript 1 in the Publish settings.
> >
> > A steer in the right direction will be greatly appreciated - Miles
> > Thompson
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash9 :communication or cacophony ?

Go try it.  Build something small, and you'll be on board lickety-split.

- Original Message - 
From: "judah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Flashcoders mailing list" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash9 
:communication or cacophony ?


Same emotional ride here plus more (flash component developer).

If Macromedia wants to get programmers on board to Flex Builder they
need to make it an attractive price. We have already spent and invested
time, money and more to get to the level where we are at. Even if they
set the price (say $1000 or $600) is what it's worth, you would still
put off many of the people that might want to embrace it because it is
too steep a jump for those that just purchased Flash 8 or Macromedia
Studio. Like the XBOX and Playstation and all the consoles, they may
need to do something to get people on board especially the people that
have supported them and rallied for Flash for so long.

Best Regards,
Judah Frangipane

JesterXL wrote:

>You've hit most of the Flash to Flex emotional ride.  You appear to be on
>frustration.
>
>Here are the phases:
>- indifference
>- exploration
>- contemplation
>- understanding of segmentation
>- frustration
>- renewal
>- decision
>
>To elaborate, one hear's about Flex.  Sounds interesting, but they aren't
>sure what it's about.  Their curiosity is destroyed when they hear about 
>the
>price.  Some has been re-kindled by the preliminary price announcement as
>well as all the Flex 2 announcments.
>
>You learn and explore what Flex is all about, what it has that Flash does
>not.  You comprehend how to develop Flex apps.
>
>You contemplate how would this apply to you?  To your current target work
>market?  Do you build apps or souped-up functional websites? Games?  Where
>does Flex fit?
>
>You then the see the segmentation of Flex and Flash's goals.  Flex
>originally got the enterprise developers on board, and is now taking the
>rest of the programmers with it al la Flex 2.  Flash 8 glaringly points out
>the difference when you compare the two.
>
>You get frustrated; wtf?  15,000k + a server requirement for 3 year-old
>components?  This isn't fair!  Do they not care about the people who got
>them here?  Hell, the AJAX'ers stole OUR MONIKER!
>
>Renewal, which thankfully came about via Flex 2's annoucement, is the
>attainable price range, with features that are marketable vs. workflows 
>that
>are desriable for a developer but hard to sell as ROI.  Both Flex and
>ActionScript projects are supported, the speed is way up to par, the new
>features are tight, and the language is sweet... and you can play and give
>feedback before it's even released.
>
>Decision; what to do?
>
>A long time ago, Nigel tried to predict what this meant for Flash
>Developers:
>http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/articles/flash_perspective.html
>
>There are existing markets that will embrace this, others shun, and new
>markets will be created.
>
>Where do you fit in?  THAT is the real question, not what an RIA is, but
>what will we make an RIA become?
>
>
>

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Re: [Flashcoders] JIT in 8.5, this sounds good and promissing

2005-10-18 Thread chall3ng3r

i guess just like .net? IL > JIT > machine lang. correct me if i am wrong.
 // chall3ng3r //
 On 10/9/05, Weyert de Boer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Would it cache the bytecode too?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Sound.computeSpectrum()

2005-10-18 Thread Danger

http://www.richapps.de/?p=23

On 10/19/05, Phil Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any more info about this
>
> Takes a snapshot of the current sound wave and places it into the
> specified ByteArray object. The values are formatted as normalized
> floating point values, in the range -1.0 to 1.0. The ByteArray object
> passed as the argument will be overwritten with these values. The size
> of the ByteArray object created is fixed to 512 floating point values,
> where the first 256 values represent the left channel, and the second
> 256 values represent the right channel.
>
> Sounds exiting, but does it compute the whole sound before hand, or
> compute as the sound is playing in real time.
>
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Re: [Flashcoders] .onLoad works in AS1, breaks in Flash 7


Have you verified that you compiled in Flash 7 using AS1 and not AS2 ?
if not you might need to adapt your code a little to work with AS2 compiler.

Miles Thompson wrote:


This code works in AS1 (Flash 6) but "success" never occurs in Flash 7.
What could I be doing wrong?

function getIssueDates()
{
varGetDates = new LoadVars();
//varGetDates.cacheKiller = new Date().getTime();
varGetDates.Load( "http://"; + host + "feed_issuedates.php");
varGetDates.onLoad = function( success )
{
if (success)
{
_root.issuedates = varGetDates.issuedates;
} else
{
// provide today's date
today = new Date();
issuedates = string( today.getFullYear() ) +"-";
issuedates = issuedates + string( today.getMonth() + 1) + 
"-";

issuedates = issuedates + string( today.getDate() );
} // if(success)
  etc., etc.
 }
}

Note: Host is set in the first frame through an inclusion: #include 
"settings.as". Host shows up in the degugger variables window as 
"www.allnovascotia.com/test/"  What is passed to varGetDates.Load is 
"http://www.allnovascotia.com/test/feed_issuedates.php";


A trace( varGetDates.issuedates) inserted immediately before 
"if(success)" returns an empty string. Same statement, following the 
if(success) is never evaluated.


No conversion was followed, the previous Flash MX version was opened 
using Flash MX 2004, and then simply Save As'd to a new location; when 
warned that the file would no longer be openable in Flash MX I clicked 
on OK.


Have I missed something really basic?

I'm compiling as ActionScript 1 in the Publish settings.

A steer in the right direction will be greatly appreciated - Miles 
Thompson
 


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Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9 :communication or cacophony ?

2005-10-18 Thread judah

Same emotional ride here plus more (flash component developer).

If Macromedia wants to get programmers on board to Flex Builder they
need to make it an attractive price. We have already spent and invested
time, money and more to get to the level where we are at. Even if they
set the price (say $1000 or $600) is what it's worth, you would still
put off many of the people that might want to embrace it because it is
too steep a jump for those that just purchased Flash 8 or Macromedia
Studio. Like the XBOX and Playstation and all the consoles, they may
need to do something to get people on board especially the people that
have supported them and rallied for Flash for so long.

Best Regards,
Judah Frangipane

JesterXL wrote:

You've hit most of the Flash to Flex emotional ride. You appear to be on
frustration.

Here are the phases:
- indifference
- exploration
- contemplation
- understanding of segmentation
- frustration
- renewal
- decision

To elaborate, one hear's about Flex. Sounds interesting, but they aren't
sure what it's about. Their curiosity is destroyed when they hear about the
price. Some has been re-kindled by the preliminary price announcement as
well as all the Flex 2 announcments.

You learn and explore what Flex is all about, what it has that Flash does
not. You comprehend how to develop Flex apps.

You contemplate how would this apply to you? To your current target work
market? Do you build apps or souped-up functional websites? Games? Where
does Flex fit?

You then the see the segmentation of Flex and Flash's goals. Flex
originally got the enterprise developers on board, and is now taking the
rest of the programmers with it al la Flex 2. Flash 8 glaringly points out
the difference when you compare the two.

You get frustrated; wtf? 15,000k + a server requirement for 3 year-old
components? This isn't fair! Do they not care about the people who got
them here? Hell, the AJAX'ers stole OUR MONIKER!

Renewal, which thankfully came about via Flex 2's annoucement, is the
attainable price range, with features that are marketable vs. workflows that
are desriable for a developer but hard to sell as ROI. Both Flex and
ActionScript projects are supported, the speed is way up to par, the new
features are tight, and the language is sweet... and you can play and give
feedback before it's even released.

Decision; what to do?

A long time ago, Nigel tried to predict what this meant for Flash
Developers:

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/articles/flash_perspective.html

There are existing markets that will embrace this, others shun, and new
markets will be created.

Where do you fit in? THAT is the real question, not what an RIA is, but
what will we make an RIA become?

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one thing."

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[Flashcoders] Close preview not handled when CPU usage too high

2005-10-18 Thread Jonathan Kaye

Hello!

I have a custom UI movie that uses a lot of CPU, and when I test the movie
(Control > Test Movie), the custom UI continues to run as well as the actual
movie.  The movie uses a lot as well, so much that I can no longer close the
preview (SWF) movie though the animation continues to run.  This happens in
Flash MX 2004 and Flash 8.

I added code to the custom UI to detect when its real frame rate (calculated
using getTimer) dropped below a certain threshold, but apparently when the
CPU gets loaded, at some point the custom UI movie doesn't get the chance to
do its onEnterFrame, or even get setInterval interrupts.

For the time being, I made a button on the custom UI to test the movie, and
when that button is pressed, I freeze the custom UI animation.  The problem
is that I can't detect if people use Control > Test Movie, so I can stop the
animation.  Inevitably, people run into this and they think it is a problem
with my component (not good for marketing!).

Anyone have a suggestion for detecting when someone uses Control > Test
Movie, or for finding that magic point during the execution of a custom UI
when it is about to start freaking out and not get onEnterFrame or timer
interrupts?

Thanks!

-jonathan

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[Flashcoders] Sound.computeSpectrum()

2005-10-18 Thread Phil Douglas

Does anyone have any more info about this

Takes a snapshot of the current sound wave and places it into the
specified ByteArray object. The values are formatted as normalized
floating point values, in the range -1.0 to 1.0. The ByteArray object
passed as the argument will be overwritten with these values. The size
of the ByteArray object created is fixed to 512 floating point values,
where the first 256 values represent the left channel, and the second
256 values represent the right channel.

Sounds exiting, but does it compute the whole sound before hand, or
compute as the sound is playing in real time.

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Re: [Flashcoders] External class changes not being reflected in the output! Any idea?

2005-10-18 Thread Ron Wheeler

It could be caching. Lots of discussion in the forum about this - 
Basically, you have to clean out your Player's cache area.


It can also be caused by loading a swf that was compiled with the old 
version. Flash will use the first version of a class that it finds. So 
if you have 2 swfs that include the Banana Class and you forget to 
rebuild both swfs you will tear all of your hair out in frustration as 
Flash consistently uses your old class definition that it found in the 
swf that you forgot to rebuild.


This is not as uncommon as it seems and almost everyone gets bitten by 
one of these two cases eventually.
Usually only once since you end up with great mental scars as you are 
finding now.


Ron


David Lochhead wrote:


Hi,

I'm late to the party in adopting external classes for my work but
hey, I'm here now! :)

Anyway I have an incredibly frustrating problem in that when I change
the code in my class it doesn't seem to be updated when I republish.
I'm using Flash 8 and SEPY.

E.g. Here's my class. Simple as it is.

class Banana {

private var owner:MovieClip;

function Banana(createdBy:MovieClip) {
owner = createdBy;
tr('Banana Created');
owner._x = 100;
owner._y = 100;
}

public static function tr() {
trace(arguments.join(" : "));
}
}

And in my FLA the only code is.

bob = new Banana(bob); - bob being a square movieclip.

Now when I publish it i get the output: Banana Created

However, if I change the trace in the class to "Apple Created"  and
republish I still get "Banana Created". i.e. it hasn't updated.

It's driving me nuts. Am I missing something painfully obvious?

Cheers,

Dave
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Re: [Flashcoders] Please Help - missing item from loaded XML file, but not when I simulate download?!

2005-10-18 Thread Ron Wheeler


Your XML seems to be missing a collection element to hold all of the mains

...
...
...


If you are missing the "mains" entries, the second main element is just 
an orphan and not related to the first one.


If you try to access your XML from Firefox it displays an error

XML Parsing Error: junk after document element
Location: http://fari.kentandangela.com/site_tree.xml
Line Number 256, Column 1:content="true">

^

I hope that this helps.

Ron

Kent Humphrey wrote:


http://fari.kentandangela.com

This is a website I am days away from delivering, and today I'm 
getting a crazy problem.


The menu structure is loaded from an xml file. When I view this on the 
web, or preview from Flash, the 5th item of the main menu doesn't 
display.


When I do "simulate download" after previewing it, the 5th item IS there!

What do you see? I've got fast broadband here, but surely it's not 
skipping over a part of the file, the exact same part each time I load 
it??


This menu system has been working fine for over a week now...

Changing the order of the items in the xml file has no difference, 
it's always the 5th item that wont display, not matter which of my 
items is in 5th place.


Here is the code to generate the menu items, of course it's looping 
through them so all items are getting exactly the same instructions...


[code]
// build as many root menu items as listed in the xml
for (var i:Number = 0; itempMC = mainMenu.attachMovie("menu_item", tempLabel, 
mainMenu.getNextHighestDepth(), {_x:550, _y:i*20+48});

tempMC.level = "main";
tempText = tempMC.createTextField("label_text", 1, 0, 0, 200, 20);
tempText._visible = false;
tempText.autoSize = "left";
tempText.text = tempLabel.toUpperCase();
tempText.antiAliasType = "advanced";
tempText.embedFonts = true;
tempText.selectable = false;
tempText.setTextFormat(menu_fmt);
tempText._visible = true;
trace("text: "+tempMC);

}[/code]

(Note, I am using Sephiroth's XML2Obj class to handle the parsing of 
the xml file - as you can see it's reading everything else correctly)


The return from that trace statement is as you expect, it returns the 
correct MC, so it's definitely being created.


Anyone got any ideas? I've been hammering away at this problem for 
about 4 hours now :angry:


Flash 8 Pro, WinXP, published to AS2, Flash Player 8, same issue on 
Firefox and IE.


XML file here http://fari.kentandangela.com/site_tree.xml
.swf here http://fari.kentandangela.com/fari.swf

ignoreWhitespace = true/false isn't making any difference.

Excuse the XML, it's my first, so it might not be structured correctly...
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Re: [Flashcoders] OT - Performance Question - OS X

2005-10-18 Thread Michael Bedar

I have run Flash on Mac's since version 2, and I have never had cause  
to complain about performance.. The player performance before 8 left  
a lot to be desired, but the IDE has always been fine.  The 8 IDE  
runs beautifully on my Dual 2.0ghz G5., and the 8 player/plugin is a  
huge improvement.


These days RAM is more likely to be a bottleneck for performance than  
the processor I have 1.5gigs and miss the extra bit i had on my  
old Mac(G4).



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On Oct 18, 2005, at 6:42 PM, Ryan Hovey wrote:


Hey there,

Sorry if this hardware question is a bit off topic but it is  
getting to be a real nightmare for me. I switched to a Mac about 4  
years ago and have since used a Power Mac G4 500, a Ti Power Book,  
an eMac for a bit while a machine was in the shop (one of the bad  
screen ones), an iMac G4 1.25GHz and now i am using am iMac G5  
(1.8GHz, 1G RAM).


I find that the Flash IDE is terribly slow on OS X and pretty much  
brings the machine to its knees even if it is the only thing  
running. The G5 I have now I am wondering if it is having some of  
the associated power supply and main board problems that are  
cropping up now with this model. The fan runs almost constantly if  
i am running Flash IDe, converting Video to FLV, etc.


Basically, how is the IDE working for everyone else out there? Are  
Windows users fairly happy with performance, responsiveness? What  
about the Mac users? Anyone finding things a tad too slow for them?


Thanks for any input.

Ryan Hovey


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[Flashcoders] Flex2 question - packages

2005-10-18 Thread Calv J

Never having looked at flex before, I realise this is
a pretty basic question - but could someone just point
in the right direction - how do you change using a
package in mxml in relation to the calculator example
at devnet?
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/articles/calculator.html

It has the class CalculatorHandlers - used in the mxml
(flex 1.5) as

which doesn't work now there is packages...
so - how do I change that?

If I put the class in testPackage - how is it used in
the mxml?

something like:
http://www.macromedia.com/2005/mxml";
xmlns:testPackage="testPackage">



doesn't do it - how exactly do I use the
CalculatorHandlers class?

Thanks,

C.




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Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9:communication or cacophony ?

2005-10-18 Thread Thomas Kaiser

SV> I was discussing the players, not the IDE. Ultimately the site visitors
SV> can't care less how "crappy" or not the IDE interface developers used is :)

ok, point taken :-)

Cheers,
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[Flashcoders] OT - Performance Question - OS X

2005-10-18 Thread Ryan Hovey


I think this got into the wrong thread. Please excuse my duplicate post.

Hey there,

Sorry if this hardware question is a bit off topic but it is getting  
to be a real nightmare for me. I switched to a Mac about 4 years ago  
and have since used a Power Mac G4 500, a Ti Power Book, an eMac for  
a bit while a machine was in the shop (one of the bad screen ones),  
an iMac G4 1.25GHz and now i am using am iMac G5 (1.8GHz, 1G RAM).


I find that the Flash IDE is terribly slow on OS X and pretty much  
brings the machine to its knees even if it is the only thing running.  
The G5 I have now I am wondering if it is having some of the  
associated power supply and main board problems that are cropping up  
now with this model. The fan runs almost constantly if i am running  
Flash IDe, converting Video to FLV, etc.


Basically, how is the IDE working for everyone else out there? Are  
Windows users fairly happy with performance, responsiveness? What  
about the Mac users? Anyone finding things a tad too slow for them?


Thanks for any input.

Ryan Hovey

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[Flashcoders] OT - Performance Question - OS X

2005-10-18 Thread Ryan Hovey


Hey there,

Sorry if this hardware question is a bit off topic but it is getting  
to be a real nightmare for me. I switched to a Mac about 4 years ago  
and have since used a Power Mac G4 500, a Ti Power Book, an eMac for  
a bit while a machine was in the shop (one of the bad screen ones),  
an iMac G4 1.25GHz and now i am using am iMac G5 (1.8GHz, 1G RAM).


I find that the Flash IDE is terribly slow on OS X and pretty much  
brings the machine to its knees even if it is the only thing running.  
The G5 I have now I am wondering if it is having some of the  
associated power supply and main board problems that are cropping up  
now with this model. The fan runs almost constantly if i am running  
Flash IDe, converting Video to FLV, etc.


Basically, how is the IDE working for everyone else out there? Are  
Windows users fairly happy with performance, responsiveness? What  
about the Mac users? Anyone finding things a tad too slow for them?


Thanks for any input.

Ryan Hovey


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Re: Re[2]: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9:communication or cacophony ?

2005-10-18 Thread Stan Vassilev

I was discussing the players, not the IDE. Ultimately the site visitors 
can't care less how "crappy" or not the IDE interface developers used is :)


Regards, Stan Vassilev



SV> you know actually we had plenty of issues with the first
SV> releases of Flash 6 and 7 too, but subsequent point rleeases made it 
all

SV> work smooth).

you're kidding me - I never sweared more heavily about a crappy user 
interface

than with Flash 7.2.

You MUST be kidding ...

*rubbing my eyes*,
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Re[2]: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9 :communication or cacophony ?

2005-10-18 Thread Thomas Kaiser

SV> you know actually we had plenty of issues with the first
SV> releases of Flash 6 and 7 too, but subsequent point rleeases made it all
SV> work smooth).

you're kidding me - I never sweared more heavily about a crappy user interface
than with Flash 7.2.

You MUST be kidding ...

*rubbing my eyes*,
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[Flashcoders] Express Install and FP8.5?

2005-10-18 Thread Rajat Paharia

Hey all -

I have Express Install on my site (http://www.bunchball.com) and it's
requiring FP version 8,0,22,0. When visitors come to the site with
FP8.5 (8,5,0,133) it triggers the Express Install. Any ideas on why?
thanks, - rajat

// -
// Globals
// Major version of Flash required
var requiredMajorVersion = 8;
// Minor version of Flash required
var requiredMinorVersion = 0;
// Minor version of Flash required
var requiredRevision = 22;
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RE: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9 :communication or cacophony ?

2005-10-18 Thread Kevin Aebig

Well... at least I don't feel alone in my opinions.

Cheers,

Kevin

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:communication or cacophony ?

It was with a mixture of interest and irritation that I read Macromedia's 
announcements about Flex and Flash Player 8.5 and the ensuing reactions.

The valid assertion that "Flex is a tool for building RIAs (Rich Internet 
Applications)" is gradually becoming widely interpreted as "If  you want to 
do 'rich' (fantastic, impressive or professional?) things with Flash you 
need to buy Flex."  Many of the people who have been fortunate enough to be 
able to play with Flex since it was released are now self-declared RIA 
experts, most of whom are extremely pleasant, incredibly easy to reach and 
deal with others with the utmost humility and modesty. (I am really going to

miss our Iteration 2 friends in this respect...)

We could begin by debating the concept of RIA and the fact that it is the 
new Grail of the present-day Internet. By no means am I sufficiently 
familiar with the subtleties of the English language to fully understand the

nuances of the adjective 'rich'. By 'rich' I understand 'souped up', 
'brimming over' (with functions and information), 'complex' in terms of 
interactions, and I would imagine that it quite expensive, etc.

Personally, I prefer 'sexy', 'shrewd', 'fluid', 'educational' or 
'intelligent' to 'rich'.

Actually, most Flex applications have this characteristic compartmentalized 
appearance, like a 1970s living room bookcase, with cabinets, drawers, 
framed photographs, multitudes of lists and datagrids which provide a 
talking point. On the subject of sobriety, are you familiar with Google 
Maps?

I started using Flash quite a long time (almost eight years) ago because it 
was fast, powerful, visually appealing and there was no need to buy server 
software for 15,000 dollars to produce dynamic maps. All you had to do was 
connect to a good old database. At the time it performed miracles. These 
days we have to fight through a myriad of increasingly large and unwieldy 
component libraries. I have never been able to start using V2 components 
because my Internet clients do not want any files larger than 100 KB for a 
public-access website.

When Flash MX2004 was released in its basic and professional versions, I 
immediately bought the professional version because I really wanted to feel 
like a true professional. When someone pointed out that a really serious 
Flash development was being made in OOP and integrally in external classes, 
without putting any objects or drawings at all on the scene, I gritted my 
teeth and continued regardless. I fiddled around a bit:  mycb._y=8? too 
high. mycb._y=15: oops, too low!  I used the Event Dispatcher function like 
there was no tomorrow and put Delegate.create everywhere in my code. It 
looked fantastic and I felt really free!

Of course, I bought Flash 8 Pro, which I use mainly as a compiler and 
debugger. I have now learned that using Flash 8 IDE for compiling purposes 
is rather old-fashioned. I was told I should use MTASC and, of course, Flex 
builder. I will soon be able to throw my Flash 8 Pro away. Do I need Flash 
9?

Lastly, the story of the Flash Player 8.5 has completely worn me out. You 
fight for major tenders, explaining that Flash is now a mature, stable 
product that works with all browsers and operating systems, and that we are 
waiting until the latest version has spread everywhere before switching to 
the new one. And one month after Flash 8 is released, there are more and 
more announcements and no one understands anything any more. Yesterday, a 
smart aleck computer specialist who is always abreast of new developments 
said to me "So, that's it. If we take your Macromedia Flash, will we need to

buy the Flex for 15,000 dollars in a year's time?"

- The first demo that I assemble for a client using Flash 8 makes all his 
browsers crash, although I had vigorously assured him that Flash never 
crashes. I had made the mistake of trying to impress him with contextual 
menus.
- I was not immediately aware that Windows NT4 and a few other environments 
were not supported.
- I shouted it from the rooftops that the Flash/JavaScript communication was

now reinforced; yet unfortunately it only works with really up-to-date 
browsers. I congratulate Mike Chambers and Christian Cantrell for their kit.

It is a great initiative but what is the status of this investment with 
Macromedia? What is Macromedia's obligation to truly consolidate this Flash 
integration in the browser, also for Flash 7 and IE 5.5, etc.?
- It is a good idea to have bitmap functions, but Flash's original 
contribution is vectors and there is still not the slightest function for 
editing a shape after Actionscript has been used. If you wan

RE: [Flashcoders] financial analysis :: PVIF, FVIF, FVIFA,

2005-10-18 Thread Kevin Aebig

Sure... I might have some spare time to work with it.

Cheers,

Kevin

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keven... I want to place this into subversion and start working with 
you on it? Is this something that you would be interested in? Others?

Wade

Wade



On Oct 14, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Kevin Aebig wrote:

> Tsk Tsk... o yee of little faith.
>
> http://sample.fundnet.ca/kevin/financial_as.zip
>
> Kevin
>
> -Original Message-
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>
>> I posted awhile back checking to see if anyone had written a complex
>> financial formula's class for flash.
> I think you'll be uinlikely to find such a thing, largely due to 
> the
> fact that those sort of calculations are a) imprecise in client-side
> languages, and b) usually involve information that requires security. 
> Due to
>
> both of those, these sort of calculations are much more likely to be 
> done on
>
> the server side. I'll bet you can find libraries of those kinds of
> calculation in ASP/VBScript, VB/C#.NET, C++, Java, and all kinds of 
> other
> languages that are more precise and more common in application 
> development.
> Converting an existing class from Java or C# wouldn't be difficult, 
> but it
> would require some tweaking to maintain precision (mostly multiplying
> numbers by 1000 before doing arithmatic on them and then dividing again
> before returning results, to avoid imprecise floating point 
> calculations).
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[Flashcoders] Test

2005-10-18 Thread Helmut Granda

Test



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Re: [Flashcoders] ADMIN: List status

2005-10-18 Thread Muzak

Thanx for giving us back our addiction :-)
And for maintaining the list over the years!

regards,
Muzak

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appears to be back up now. I apologize for the inconvenience, and would like
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AW: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash9:communication or cacophony ?

2005-10-18 Thread Benjamin Dobler

> The valid assertion that "Flex is a tool for building RIAs (Rich 
> Internet Applications)" is gradually becoming widely interpreted as 
> "If  you want to do 'rich' (fantastic, impressive or professional?) 
> things with Flash you need to buy Flex."

And Flex really is "the" tool for RIA! I had my problems with Flex 1.0 but
with this release i really hope that i can switch completely to Flex. It`s
such a fantastic tool - makes things much easier and. Now I really see this
as a Flash competitor. Not really but for my personal decision. I`ve always
been a fanatic flash developer but i more and more think that i`m a
macromedia fanatic or swf or flash player fanatic. The future is bright for
everyone flasher and flexer.
Anyone need a Flex 2.0 developer in Berlin ;-)

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Re: [Flashcoders] Referencing MovieClip

2005-10-18 Thread Martin Wood

if the methods are in the same class, then that should work, assuming 
that the reference to timeline is still valid, try trace(timeline) to 
make sure.


alternatively, you could store the movieclip references in an array and 
then access that later rather than getting them from their parent movieclip.


martin


Trevor Burton wrote:

Probably a bit of newbie question but here goes:
 
In a class method I'm creating a movieclip (this is simplified)
 
Public function whatever(timeline) {
 
Var mc:MovieClip;
 
For (var j = 0; j < someVariable; j++) {
 
Mc = timeline.createEmptyMovieClip("face" + j,

j);
 
}
 
}
 
then later, in another method I'm getting hold of that movieclip again

and doing something with it:
 
public function whatever_again() {
 
var mc:MovieClip;
 
for (var j = 0; j < someVariable; j++) {
 
mc = timeline["face" + j];
 
}
 
}
 
but the trace gives the value of mc in the second method as 'undefined'

- I can't seem to grab hold of those movieclips created in the first
method.

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[Flashcoders] Referencing MovieClip

2005-10-18 Thread Trevor Burton

Probably a bit of newbie question but here goes:
 
In a class method I'm creating a movieclip (this is simplified)
 
Public function whatever(timeline) {
 
Var mc:MovieClip;
 
For (var j = 0; j < someVariable; j++) {
 
Mc = timeline.createEmptyMovieClip("face" + j,
j);
 
}
 
}
 
then later, in another method I'm getting hold of that movieclip again
and doing something with it:
 
public function whatever_again() {
 
var mc:MovieClip;
 
for (var j = 0; j < someVariable; j++) {
 
mc = timeline["face" + j];
 
}
 
}
 
but the trace gives the value of mc in the second method as 'undefined'
- I can't seem to grab hold of those movieclips created in the first
method.
 
Can anyone spot what I'm doing wrong?
 
 
 

 

 

 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9 : communication or cacophony ?

2005-10-18 Thread Mike Chambers

fyi, Flash Player 8 has the ExternalInterface API built into the player 
to handle Flash / JavaScript communication for Flash Player 8 and above..


As far as the Flash / JavaScript Integration kit, we (christian and I) 
are working on it. If we are not working fast enough, then you can 
always download the source yourself, and make any changes you see 
necessary (it is, afterall, and open source project).


mike chambers

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Eric Mauvière wrote:
- I shouted it from the rooftops that the Flash/JavaScript communication 
was now reinforced; yet unfortunately it only works with really 
up-to-date browsers. I congratulate Mike Chambers and Christian Cantrell 
for their kit. It is a great initiative but what is the status of this 
investment with Macromedia? What is Macromedia's obligation to truly 
consolidate this Flash integration in the browser, also for Flash 7 and 
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Re: [Flashcoders] A reason to use Windows

One thing that doesn't appear to have been mentioned here is that Flex 2
doesn't include any form of server component right now.

The Flex product roadmap has been significantly changed, so you will now use
Flex Builder to generate .swf files completely independently of the server.
Pretty much in the same way as the Flash authoring tool has been used for
years.

The server aspect of Flex will be part of a new product - Flex Enterprise
Services. Information on exactly what that will include hasn't been made
public yet.

Spike

On 10/18/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Why Make the FP 8.5 installer for Mac, if you have not
> > IDE to build the projects anyway... Things that make ya
> > go hmm
>
> That doesn't surprise me too much - lots of people will use one platform
> to
> run their IDE, and another to actually run the server.
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Re: [Flashcoders] A reason to use Windows

I doubt very much if Macromedia sees the 8.5 release of the Flash Player for
Mac as the same project as Flex Builder 2.0, so I assume they would allocate
priorities and resources differently. Also, there is that java.awt / SWT
threading bug that I mentioned. That would be a problem for Flex Builder,
but not for the player.

I'd imagine that a lot of people will need to test their apps on OS X even
if they don't develop on it, so that could be another reason.

Spike

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> Thank you for the pointer. I spent a couple of hours last night attempting
> to get the Flex Builder to work on eclipse on my Mac. Later on teh
> Labs.Macromedia.com  <
> http://Labs.Macromedia.com> I found a note that the
> plug-in will not work on the Mac, which I can deal with, but here is the
> interesting question. Why Make the FP 8.5 installer for Mac, if you have
> not
> IDE to build the projects anyway... Things that make ya go hmm
>
> On 10/18/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Flex 2 I cannot run it on my Mac :-(
> > > Woe is me.
> >
> > I haven't tried to do this, but I would think you could run it on a Mac,
> > although it may not be supported. With Flex 1.x at least, you could
> > install
> > it as an EAR or WAR file onto a J2EE app server. I suspect you can do
> the
> > same thing with Flex 2, although you may need to run the installer on
> > Windows, or you may need to download a J2EE installer.
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RE: [Flashcoders] A reason to use Windows

> Why Make the FP 8.5 installer for Mac, if you have not
> IDE to build the projects anyway... Things that make ya 
> go hmm

That doesn't surprise me too much - lots of people will use one platform to
run their IDE, and another to actually run the server.

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Re: [Flashcoders] A reason to use Windows

2005-10-18 Thread Jaye Morris

Thank you for the pointer. I spent a couple of hours last night attempting
to get the Flex Builder to work on eclipse on my Mac. Later on teh
Labs.Macromedia.com  I found a note that the
plug-in will not work on the Mac, which I can deal with, but here is the
interesting question. Why Make the FP 8.5 installer for Mac, if you have not
IDE to build the projects anyway... Things that make ya go hmm

On 10/18/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Flex 2 I cannot run it on my Mac :-(
> > Woe is me.
>
> I haven't tried to do this, but I would think you could run it on a Mac,
> although it may not be supported. With Flex 1.x at least, you could
> install
> it as an EAR or WAR file onto a J2EE app server. I suspect you can do the
> same thing with Flex 2, although you may need to run the installer on
> Windows, or you may need to download a J2EE installer.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
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Re: [Flashcoders] A reason to use Windows

2005-10-18 Thread Jaye Morris

I have virtual PC, but consider it something of a buzz-kill... But your
point is *very* well taken

On 10/18/05, Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> VirtualPC is your friend :-)
>
> Flex Builder 2 is eating somewhere between 300 and 400 MB of memory on my
> Windows XP machine though, so you might want to hold off if you don't
> already have VirtualPC and enough RAM.
>
> Spike
>
> On 10/17/05, Jaye Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Flex 2 I cannot run it on my Mac :-(
> > Woe is me.
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] financial analysis :: PVIF, FVIF, FVIFA,

2005-10-18 Thread Wade Arnold

keven... I want to place this into subversion and start working with 
you on it? Is this something that you would be interested in? Others?


Wade

Wade



On Oct 14, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Kevin Aebig wrote:


Tsk Tsk... o yee of little faith.

http://sample.fundnet.ca/kevin/financial_as.zip

Kevin

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I posted awhile back checking to see if anyone had written a complex
financial formula's class for flash.
I think you'll be uinlikely to find such a thing, largely due to 
the

fact that those sort of calculations are a) imprecise in client-side
languages, and b) usually involve information that requires security. 
Due to


both of those, these sort of calculations are much more likely to be 
done on


the server side. I'll bet you can find libraries of those kinds of
calculation in ASP/VBScript, VB/C#.NET, C++, Java, and all kinds of 
other
languages that are more precise and more common in application 
development.
Converting an existing class from Java or C# wouldn't be difficult, 
but it

would require some tweaking to maintain precision (mostly multiplying
numbers by 1000 before doing arithmatic on them and then dividing again
before returning results, to avoid imprecise floating point 
calculations).


ryanm

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Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9:communication or cacophony ?

Well said Stan!

- Original Message - 
From: "Stan Vassilev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Flashcoders mailing list" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 
9:communication or cacophony ?


Just few points:

- you no longer need to buy Flex Server for $15000 with the new Flex 2
product line, it can compile to SWF offline like Flash 8 Pro / Basic can.
The server part is separated and optional now. Flex Builder 2 will cost
around, say $600 - $1000 (price is not decided yet so this is as accurate as
I've seen it discussed in articles and such).

- Flash 8 has, well... ok it does have lots of rough edges but this will get
better with time (you know actually we had plenty of issues with the first
releases of Flash 6 and 7 too, but subsequent point rleeases made it all
work smooth).

- Crashes you experienced with the menus are probably related to killing an
active Context Menu which is since the new garbage collector collects the
menu and Flash then tries to access a non-existing object. This was dicussed
around blogs and such - and has a workaround (i.e. like not killing the menu
prematurely for now).

- There are also some glitches in the Firefox player with existing sites (I
have some sites not load) and some issues in the new features which can be
worked around (and will be fixed in future build I suppose).

You gotta understand the folks are under a lot of pressure by competition
and the Adobe acquisition and all...
The amount of changes to the flash player with flash 8 and 8.5 is enormous.
Not all people need those features for casual apps, but plenty do, and when
Vista comes, Flash would become simply irrelevant if it doesn't have the
features and speed people demand from it... So consider all those products
and updates we're getting now as securing the future of Flash as a capable
and feature rich platform that is competitive to other players in the field.
After the smoke goes away the picture will be like this:

- Stable 8.5 Player
- Flash 8 Pro for authoring creative complex artistic interactive content,
cartoons and applications which do not need every bit of script speed and
the advanced AS3 capabilities (and, come on, the fact Flash 8.5 is out
doesn't mean anything before it is obsolete... Flash 8 level capabilities
still rock, can't deny it)
- Flex Builder 2 for authoring AS3 content & using the component
framework... Flash (9?) Authoring will also get Flash 8.5 (or 9..?) support
so it's not like "Flex or nothing" but for the moment until the next
Authoring is out is a good time to try out Flex Builder and see what it does
for you - maybe it's not that bad as you make it out.

The hardest part now is to really have that stable Flash 8.5 player out &
Flex Builder 2 in the first half of 2006 so things can calm down a bit and
people can see where is this all heading.
The folks are open enough to give us public alpha, and let us help them
deliver the product we want. This is probably the best that can be done in
the given stuation.

Regards, Stan Vassilev

> It was with a mixture of interest and irritation that I read Macromedia's
> announcements about Flex and Flash Player 8.5 and the ensuing reactions.
>
> The valid assertion that "Flex is a tool for building RIAs (Rich Internet
> Applications)" is gradually becoming widely interpreted as "If  you want
> to do 'rich' (fantastic, impressive or professional?) things with Flash
> you need to buy Flex."  Many of the people who have been fortunate enough
> to be able to play with Flex since it was released are now self-declared
> RIA experts, most of whom are extremely pleasant, incredibly easy to reach
> and ...
> ...

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Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9 :communication or cacophony ?

2005-10-18 Thread Stan Vassilev


Just few points:

- you no longer need to buy Flex Server for $15000 with the new Flex 2 
product line, it can compile to SWF offline like Flash 8 Pro / Basic can. 
The server part is separated and optional now. Flex Builder 2 will cost 
around, say $600 - $1000 (price is not decided yet so this is as accurate as 
I've seen it discussed in articles and such).


- Flash 8 has, well... ok it does have lots of rough edges but this will get 
better with time (you know actually we had plenty of issues with the first 
releases of Flash 6 and 7 too, but subsequent point rleeases made it all 
work smooth).


- Crashes you experienced with the menus are probably related to killing an 
active Context Menu which is since the new garbage collector collects the 
menu and Flash then tries to access a non-existing object. This was dicussed 
around blogs and such - and has a workaround (i.e. like not killing the menu 
prematurely for now).


- There are also some glitches in the Firefox player with existing sites (I 
have some sites not load) and some issues in the new features which can be 
worked around (and will be fixed in future build I suppose).


You gotta understand the folks are under a lot of pressure by competition 
and the Adobe acquisition and all...
The amount of changes to the flash player with flash 8 and 8.5 is enormous. 
Not all people need those features for casual apps, but plenty do, and when 
Vista comes, Flash would become simply irrelevant if it doesn't have the 
features and speed people demand from it... So consider all those products 
and updates we're getting now as securing the future of Flash as a capable 
and feature rich platform that is competitive to other players in the field.

After the smoke goes away the picture will be like this:

- Stable 8.5 Player
- Flash 8 Pro for authoring creative complex artistic interactive content, 
cartoons and applications which do not need every bit of script speed and 
the advanced AS3 capabilities (and, come on, the fact Flash 8.5 is out 
doesn't mean anything before it is obsolete... Flash 8 level capabilities 
still rock, can't deny it)
- Flex Builder 2 for authoring AS3 content & using the component 
framework... Flash (9?) Authoring will also get Flash 8.5 (or 9..?) support 
so it's not like "Flex or nothing" but for the moment until the next 
Authoring is out is a good time to try out Flex Builder and see what it does 
for you - maybe it's not that bad as you make it out.


The hardest part now is to really have that stable Flash 8.5 player out & 
Flex Builder 2 in the first half of 2006 so things can calm down a bit and 
people can see where is this all heading.
The folks are open enough to give us public alpha, and let us help them 
deliver the product we want. This is probably the best that can be done in 
the given stuation.


Regards, Stan Vassilev

It was with a mixture of interest and irritation that I read Macromedia's 
announcements about Flex and Flash Player 8.5 and the ensuing reactions.


The valid assertion that "Flex is a tool for building RIAs (Rich Internet 
Applications)" is gradually becoming widely interpreted as "If  you want 
to do 'rich' (fantastic, impressive or professional?) things with Flash 
you need to buy Flex."  Many of the people who have been fortunate enough 
to be able to play with Flex since it was released are now self-declared 
RIA experts, most of whom are extremely pleasant, incredibly easy to reach 
and ...
... 


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Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9 : communication or cacophony ?

2005-10-18 Thread Michael Stuhr


Eric Mauvière schrieb:

It was with a mixture of interest and irritation that I read Macromedia's 
announcements about Flex and Flash Player 8.5 and the ensuing reactions.


[...]
 



some things you wrote sound familiar to me, but you / we should take 
this discussion to the lounge before it begins :-)


micha
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Re: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9 :communication or cacophony ?

You've hit most of the Flash to Flex emotional ride.  You appear to be on 
frustration.

Here are the phases:
- indifference
- exploration
- contemplation
- understanding of segmentation
- frustration
- renewal
- decision

To elaborate, one hear's about Flex.  Sounds interesting, but they aren't 
sure what it's about.  Their curiosity is destroyed when they hear about the 
price.  Some has been re-kindled by the preliminary price announcement as 
well as all the Flex 2 announcments.

You learn and explore what Flex is all about, what it has that Flash does 
not.  You comprehend how to develop Flex apps.

You contemplate how would this apply to you?  To your current target work 
market?  Do you build apps or souped-up functional websites? Games?  Where 
does Flex fit?

You then the see the segmentation of Flex and Flash's goals.  Flex 
originally got the enterprise developers on board, and is now taking the 
rest of the programmers with it al la Flex 2.  Flash 8 glaringly points out 
the difference when you compare the two.

You get frustrated; wtf?  15,000k + a server requirement for 3 year-old 
components?  This isn't fair!  Do they not care about the people who got 
them here?  Hell, the AJAX'ers stole OUR MONIKER!

Renewal, which thankfully came about via Flex 2's annoucement, is the 
attainable price range, with features that are marketable vs. workflows that 
are desriable for a developer but hard to sell as ROI.  Both Flex and 
ActionScript projects are supported, the speed is way up to par, the new 
features are tight, and the language is sweet... and you can play and give 
feedback before it's even released.

Decision; what to do?

A long time ago, Nigel tried to predict what this meant for Flash 
Developers:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/articles/flash_perspective.html

There are existing markets that will embrace this, others shun, and new 
markets will be created.

Where do you fit in?  THAT is the real question, not what an RIA is, but 
what will we make an RIA become?


- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Mauvière" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Flashcoders mailing list" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:19 PM
Subject: [Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9 
:communication or cacophony ?


It was with a mixture of interest and irritation that I read Macromedia's
announcements about Flex and Flash Player 8.5 and the ensuing reactions.

The valid assertion that "Flex is a tool for building RIAs (Rich Internet
Applications)" is gradually becoming widely interpreted as "If  you want to
do 'rich' (fantastic, impressive or professional?) things with Flash you
need to buy Flex."  Many of the people who have been fortunate enough to be
able to play with Flex since it was released are now self-declared RIA
experts, most of whom are extremely pleasant, incredibly easy to reach and
deal with others with the utmost humility and modesty. (I am really going to
miss our Iteration 2 friends in this respect...)

We could begin by debating the concept of RIA and the fact that it is the
new Grail of the present-day Internet. By no means am I sufficiently
familiar with the subtleties of the English language to fully understand the
nuances of the adjective 'rich'. By 'rich' I understand 'souped up',
'brimming over' (with functions and information), 'complex' in terms of
interactions, and I would imagine that it quite expensive, etc.

Personally, I prefer 'sexy', 'shrewd', 'fluid', 'educational' or
'intelligent' to 'rich'.

Actually, most Flex applications have this characteristic compartmentalized
appearance, like a 1970s living room bookcase, with cabinets, drawers,
framed photographs, multitudes of lists and datagrids which provide a
talking point. On the subject of sobriety, are you familiar with Google
Maps?

I started using Flash quite a long time (almost eight years) ago because it
was fast, powerful, visually appealing and there was no need to buy server
software for 15,000 dollars to produce dynamic maps. All you had to do was
connect to a good old database. At the time it performed miracles. These
days we have to fight through a myriad of increasingly large and unwieldy
component libraries. I have never been able to start using V2 components
because my Internet clients do not want any files larger than 100 KB for a
public-access website.

When Flash MX2004 was released in its basic and professional versions, I
immediately bought the professional version because I really wanted to feel
like a true professional. When someone pointed out that a really serious
Flash development was being made in OOP and integrally in external classes,
without putting any objects or drawings at all on the scene, I gritted my
teeth and continued regardless. I fiddled around a bit:  mycb._y=8? too
high. mycb._y=15: oops, too low!  I used the Event Dispatcher function like
there was no tomorrow and put Delegate.create everywhere in my code. It
looked fantastic and I felt really free!

Of course, I boug

[Flashcoders] dispatch event in 8

2005-10-18 Thread Amir Cicak

Hello, after upgrading to flash 8 following line does not dispatch event 
anymore:
dispatchEvent({type:"klik", target:this, link:Tekst});
It works ok in flash 7. Anyone knows what could be the problem? I made 
component and this code is in components class. Are there some new things I 
need to watch out for in flash 8 related to event dipatching, initialising 
dispatcher, class, component, linkage, etc.? Thank in advance...

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Re: [Flashcoders] Ferienabwesenheit von Marcel Vogt

2005-10-18 Thread Michael Stuhr


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Liebe Geschäftspartner und liebe Freunde

Zurzeit und bis zum 2. November bin ich nicht direkt erreichbar. In dringenden 
Fällen wenden Sie sich bitte an Bruno Vogt (079 205 68 68) oder versuchen mich 
unter 079 22 22 655 zu kontaktieren. Ich werde mich unmittelbar nach meiner 
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Vielen Dank für Ihr Verständnis.

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Dave Watts schrieb:


I really appreciate it!

an i would really appreciate this guy kicked off the list. nearly one 
week without coders AND lounge is more than i can take, and the first 
mails that come through after some lonely days is this [EMAIL PROTECTED] from zürich.


gruezi
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Re: [Flashcoders] ADMIN: List status

Thanks; we all missed them terribly so!

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From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Flashcoders mailing list" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:12 PM
Subject: [Flashcoders] ADMIN: List status

Hi, everyone!

As you've probably noticed, the list has been down for several days. It
appears to be back up now. I apologize for the inconvenience, and would like
to thank José Francisco Rives Lirola and Muzak for helping to get it back
online.

Thanks very much for your patience; I really appreciate it!

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Re: [Flashcoders] External class changes not being reflected in the output! Any idea?

2005-10-18 Thread Shinhee Kim

Try ASO Clear command made by Mike Chamber.

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn111&extID=1016963#loc=en_us&view=sn111&extID=1016963&viewName=Flash%20Extension&avm=1
 Your problem sounds like related to cached class file, which is called ASO.

 On 10/17/05, David Lochhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm late to the party in adopting external classes for my work but
> hey, I'm here now! :)
>
> Anyway I have an incredibly frustrating problem in that when I change
> the code in my class it doesn't seem to be updated when I republish.
> I'm using Flash 8 and SEPY.
>
> E.g. Here's my class. Simple as it is.
>
> class Banana {
>
> private var owner:MovieClip;
>
> function Banana(createdBy:MovieClip) {
> owner = createdBy;
> tr('Banana Created');
> owner._x = 100;
> owner._y = 100;
> }
>
> public static function tr() {
> trace(arguments.join(" : "));
> }
> }
>
> And in my FLA the only code is.
>
> bob = new Banana(bob); - bob being a square movieclip.
>
> Now when I publish it i get the output: Banana Created
>
> However, if I change the trace in the class to "Apple Created" and
> republish I still get "Banana Created". i.e. it hasn't updated.
>
> It's driving me nuts. Am I missing something painfully obvious?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: [Flashcoders] Eval has been removed from AS3!

2005-10-18 Thread Stan Vassilev

eval() is supposed to execute any script you pass to it, it never worked 
that way in Flash, and since Flash is a "compact" implementation of 
ECMAScript, it doesn't include the "compiler" part which makes eval() 
possible.


Basically eval() has no much reason to exist in AS3, but you can still write 
your own eval which uses the [] I suppose (or just directly use [])


Regards, Stan Vassilev



Can you believe it?  Is not eval() part of ECMA 4?  I am heart-broken...

blue skies,
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RE: [Flashcoders] Listserv: Here's what happened...

2005-10-18 Thread Helmut Granda

You really don't know what you've got, till you lose it for a week!

Thanks for bringing the list back up.

...helmut

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Drucker
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:29 PM
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: [Flashcoders] Listserv: Here's what happened...

Apparently 36GB of storage isn't enough for you guys!  We physically moved
the server to our new offices, and then subsequently ran out of disk space.


Much frustration then ensued.  Fig Leaf is principally a Windows shop.  We
were dismayed to learn that our normal support mechanisms for our Linux
listserv were unavailable.
 
Anyway, all is well now...although we'll start looking at getting some new
hardware -- with 500GB of space this time around!

This is the first outage for ChattyFig since its launch 3+ years ago, so I'd
appreciate everyone's patience as we continue to work through the issues.
We're putting some things into place so that we will never have an extended
outage again.

Please bear with us as we procure additional hardware and institute better
support mechanisms to ensure the listserv's continued success. 


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[Flashcoders] External class changes not being reflected in the output! Any idea?

2005-10-18 Thread David Lochhead

Hi,

I'm late to the party in adopting external classes for my work but
hey, I'm here now! :)

Anyway I have an incredibly frustrating problem in that when I change
the code in my class it doesn't seem to be updated when I republish.
I'm using Flash 8 and SEPY.

E.g. Here's my class. Simple as it is.

class Banana {

private var owner:MovieClip;

function Banana(createdBy:MovieClip) {
owner = createdBy;
tr('Banana Created');
owner._x = 100;
owner._y = 100;
}

public static function tr() {
trace(arguments.join(" : "));
}
}

And in my FLA the only code is.

bob = new Banana(bob); - bob being a square movieclip.

Now when I publish it i get the output: Banana Created

However, if I change the trace in the class to "Apple Created"  and
republish I still get "Banana Created". i.e. it hasn't updated.

It's driving me nuts. Am I missing something painfully obvious?

Cheers,

Dave
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Re: [Flashcoders] List for FLEX 2

2005-10-18 Thread Savio Ponte

I´ve signed up as well... and hadn´t receive any notification (not yet).
Accidentally I was on del.icio.us  browsing some links
and this link just pop me up.

Try going to labs.macromedia.com 
I´m sure you will find it there!

HTH,

Savio Ponte
Tulipa Design
www.tulipa.rec.br 

On 10/18/05, Adam Pasztory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Where did you get it from? I signed up with Macromedia for an email
> notification, but never heard anything. :(
>
> Savio Ponte wrote:
>
> >Is there any list about FLEX 2?
> >I´ve downloaded last night the Alpha 1 version, and just can´t wait to
> talk
> >about it and know people impression about it.
> >Kinda cool, by the way.
> >TIA,
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Re: [Flashcoders] A reason to use Windows

Flex 2 requires Flex Builder 2.

Several parts of Flex Builder 2 rely on parts of the java.awt family of
packages. There is a really nasty bug with threading on OS X whihc means
that SWT and awt don't play well at all. Unfortunately the only way to fix
it is at the OS level, so you have to use one or the other. I expect MM will
have to reimplement the awt stuff for the OS X version.

AFAIK VirtualPC or some equivalent is the only way to get it going on OS X.

Spike

On 10/18/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Flex 2 I cannot run it on my Mac :-(
> > Woe is me.
>
> I haven't tried to do this, but I would think you could run it on a Mac,
> although it may not be supported. With Flex 1.x at least, you could
> install
> it as an EAR or WAR file onto a J2EE app server. I suspect you can do the
> same thing with Flex 2, although you may need to run the installer on
> Windows, or you may need to download a J2EE installer.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
>
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[Flashcoders] Test Ignore

2005-10-18 Thread Fredrik Lantz


Just a test, havent got any mails


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Re: [Flashcoders] List for FLEX 2

2005-10-18 Thread Adam Pasztory

Where did you get it from?  I signed up with Macromedia for an email 
notification, but never heard anything. :(


Savio Ponte wrote:


Is there any list about FLEX 2?
I´ve downloaded last night the Alpha 1 version, and just can´t wait to talk
about it and know people impression about it.
Kinda cool, by the way.
TIA,
 



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2005-10-18 Thread artur


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Re: [Flashcoders] FLASHCODERS IS BACK ONLINE!

2005-10-18 Thread John Giotta

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RE: [Flashcoders] financial analysis :: PVIF, FVIF, FVIFA,

2005-10-18 Thread Kevin Aebig

Tsk Tsk... o yee of little faith.

http://sample.fundnet.ca/kevin/financial_as.zip 

Kevin

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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] financial analysis :: PVIF, FVIF, FVIFA, 

>I posted awhile back checking to see if anyone had written a complex 
>financial formula's class for flash.
I think you'll be uinlikely to find such a thing, largely due to the 
fact that those sort of calculations are a) imprecise in client-side 
languages, and b) usually involve information that requires security. Due to

both of those, these sort of calculations are much more likely to be done on

the server side. I'll bet you can find libraries of those kinds of 
calculation in ASP/VBScript, VB/C#.NET, C++, Java, and all kinds of other 
languages that are more precise and more common in application development. 
Converting an existing class from Java or C# wouldn't be difficult, but it 
would require some tweaking to maintain precision (mostly multiplying 
numbers by 1000 before doing arithmatic on them and then dividing again 
before returning results, to avoid imprecise floating point calculations).

ryanm 

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RE: [Flashcoders] List for FLEX 2

2005-10-18 Thread Geoffrey Williams

Try Flexcoders:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

Or the labs forums:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/?forumid=72


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Subject: [Flashcoders] List for FLEX 2

Is there any list about FLEX 2?
I´ve downloaded last night the Alpha 1 version, and just can´t wait to talk
about it and know people impression about it.
Kinda cool, by the way.
TIA,

Savio Ponte
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[Flashcoders] Casting

2005-10-18 Thread clark slater

YAY Flashcoders is back!! Thanks Dave!...that was some serious cold turkey.
 So I've got a question about casting. My understanding of casting is that
it is just to fool the compiler so that it recognizes an object as an
instance of a particular class, and that this has no effect at runtime. But
I am encountering a situation I don't understand.
 In one of my classes I have a MovieClip with associated class that is
dynamically attached at runtime:
 import Menu;
class MyClass {
private var menuList:Menu;
 menuList = attachMovie("Menu","menu_mc",1);
 The problem is that later in the code I reference public methods of this
instance:
 menu.doSomething();
 The compiler
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[Flashcoders] Macromedia unveiling Flex 2 and Flash 9 : communication or cacophony ?

2005-10-18 Thread Eric Mauvière

It was with a mixture of interest and irritation that I read Macromedia's 
announcements about Flex and Flash Player 8.5 and the ensuing reactions.


The valid assertion that "Flex is a tool for building RIAs (Rich Internet 
Applications)" is gradually becoming widely interpreted as "If  you want to 
do 'rich' (fantastic, impressive or professional?) things with Flash you 
need to buy Flex."  Many of the people who have been fortunate enough to be 
able to play with Flex since it was released are now self-declared RIA 
experts, most of whom are extremely pleasant, incredibly easy to reach and 
deal with others with the utmost humility and modesty. (I am really going to 
miss our Iteration 2 friends in this respect...)


We could begin by debating the concept of RIA and the fact that it is the 
new Grail of the present-day Internet. By no means am I sufficiently 
familiar with the subtleties of the English language to fully understand the 
nuances of the adjective 'rich'. By 'rich' I understand 'souped up', 
'brimming over' (with functions and information), 'complex' in terms of 
interactions, and I would imagine that it quite expensive, etc.


Personally, I prefer 'sexy', 'shrewd', 'fluid', 'educational' or 
'intelligent' to 'rich'.


Actually, most Flex applications have this characteristic compartmentalized 
appearance, like a 1970s living room bookcase, with cabinets, drawers, 
framed photographs, multitudes of lists and datagrids which provide a 
talking point. On the subject of sobriety, are you familiar with Google 
Maps?


I started using Flash quite a long time (almost eight years) ago because it 
was fast, powerful, visually appealing and there was no need to buy server 
software for 15,000 dollars to produce dynamic maps. All you had to do was 
connect to a good old database. At the time it performed miracles. These 
days we have to fight through a myriad of increasingly large and unwieldy 
component libraries. I have never been able to start using V2 components 
because my Internet clients do not want any files larger than 100 KB for a 
public-access website.


When Flash MX2004 was released in its basic and professional versions, I 
immediately bought the professional version because I really wanted to feel 
like a true professional. When someone pointed out that a really serious 
Flash development was being made in OOP and integrally in external classes, 
without putting any objects or drawings at all on the scene, I gritted my 
teeth and continued regardless. I fiddled around a bit:  mycb._y=8? too 
high. mycb._y=15: oops, too low!  I used the Event Dispatcher function like 
there was no tomorrow and put Delegate.create everywhere in my code. It 
looked fantastic and I felt really free!


Of course, I bought Flash 8 Pro, which I use mainly as a compiler and 
debugger. I have now learned that using Flash 8 IDE for compiling purposes 
is rather old-fashioned. I was told I should use MTASC and, of course, Flex 
builder. I will soon be able to throw my Flash 8 Pro away. Do I need Flash 
9?


Lastly, the story of the Flash Player 8.5 has completely worn me out. You 
fight for major tenders, explaining that Flash is now a mature, stable 
product that works with all browsers and operating systems, and that we are 
waiting until the latest version has spread everywhere before switching to 
the new one. And one month after Flash 8 is released, there are more and 
more announcements and no one understands anything any more. Yesterday, a 
smart aleck computer specialist who is always abreast of new developments 
said to me "So, that's it. If we take your Macromedia Flash, will we need to 
buy the Flex for 15,000 dollars in a year's time?"


- The first demo that I assemble for a client using Flash 8 makes all his 
browsers crash, although I had vigorously assured him that Flash never 
crashes. I had made the mistake of trying to impress him with contextual 
menus.
- I was not immediately aware that Windows NT4 and a few other environments 
were not supported.
- I shouted it from the rooftops that the Flash/JavaScript communication was 
now reinforced; yet unfortunately it only works with really up-to-date 
browsers. I congratulate Mike Chambers and Christian Cantrell for their kit. 
It is a great initiative but what is the status of this investment with 
Macromedia? What is Macromedia's obligation to truly consolidate this Flash 
integration in the browser, also for Flash 7 and IE 5.5, etc.?
- It is a good idea to have bitmap functions, but Flash's original 
contribution is vectors and there is still not the slightest function for 
editing a shape after Actionscript has been used. If you want to change the 
coordinates of a polygon node you have to redraw the whole thing.  There are 
still no dotted lines and you can only alter the line thicknesses, which are 
ridiculously still integers (1, 2, 3, etc.).
The only two good aspects of Flash 8 for a cartographer are the 
much-improved memory deallocation a

[Flashcoders] Listserv: Here's what happened...

2005-10-18 Thread Steve Drucker

Apparently 36GB of storage isn't enough for you guys!  We physically moved
the server to our new offices, and then subsequently ran out of disk space.


Much frustration then ensued.  Fig Leaf is principally a Windows shop.  We
were dismayed to learn that our normal support mechanisms for our Linux
listserv were unavailable.
 
Anyway, all is well now...although we'll start looking at getting some new
hardware -- with 500GB of space this time around!

This is the first outage for ChattyFig since its launch 3+ years ago, so I'd
appreciate everyone's patience as we continue to work through the issues.
We're putting some things into place so that we will never have an extended
outage again.

Please bear with us as we procure additional hardware and institute better
support mechanisms to ensure the listserv's continued success. 


Regards,
Steve Drucker
CEO
Fig Leaf Software
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RE: [Flashcoders] A reason to use Windows

> Flex 2 I cannot run it on my Mac :-(
>  Woe is me.

I haven't tried to do this, but I would think you could run it on a Mac,
although it may not be supported. With Flex 1.x at least, you could install
it as an EAR or WAR file onto a J2EE app server. I suspect you can do the
same thing with Flex 2, although you may need to run the installer on
Windows, or you may need to download a J2EE installer.

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Re: [Flashcoders] A reason to use Windows

VirtualPC is your friend :-)

Flex Builder 2 is eating somewhere between 300 and 400 MB of memory on my
Windows XP machine though, so you might want to hold off if you don't
already have VirtualPC and enough RAM.

Spike

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[Flashcoders] JSFL : instancename


Hi all,
 here is my code :
 function layerToClip()
 {


 var layers = fl.getDocumentDOM().getTimeline().layers.length;

 for(var i = 0; i < layers; i++){
 fl.getDocumentDOM().getTimeline().setSelectedLayer s(i);
 fl.getDocumentDOM().getTimeline().setSelectedFrame s(0, 0);
 var nomscalk=fl.getDocumentDOM().getTimeline().layers[i].name;
 fl.trace(nomscalk);
 fl.getDocumentDOM().convertToSymbol("movie clip", nomscalk, "top 
left");


 }
 }
 this. layerToClip();
 that's run but i would like to change also the instancename of the 
created clips with name of layers :nomscalk in same time

 thanks
 JP
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Re: [Flashcoders] A reason to use Windows

2005-10-18 Thread Rich Rodecker

yeah, i tired downloading the plug in version and installing that, but that
doesnt look like its gonna work. This link says that there will be a mac
version, but after the 1.0 is released:

http://www.andersblog.com/archives/2005/10/about_the_diffe.html



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[Flashcoders] .onLoad works in AS1, breaks in Flash 7

2005-10-18 Thread Miles Thompson


This code works in AS1 (Flash 6) but "success" never occurs in Flash 7.
What could I be doing wrong?

function getIssueDates()
{
varGetDates = new LoadVars();
//varGetDates.cacheKiller = new Date().getTime();
varGetDates.Load( "http://"; + host + "feed_issuedates.php");
varGetDates.onLoad = function( success )
{
if (success)
{
_root.issuedates = varGetDates.issuedates;
} else
{
// provide today's date
today = new Date();
issuedates = string( today.getFullYear() ) +"-";
issuedates = issuedates + string( today.getMonth() + 1) + 
"-";
issuedates = issuedates + string( today.getDate() );
} // if(success)
  etc., etc.
 }
}

Note: Host is set in the first frame through an inclusion: #include 
"settings.as". Host shows up in the degugger variables window as 
"www.allnovascotia.com/test/"  What is passed to varGetDates.Load is 
"http://www.allnovascotia.com/test/feed_issuedates.php";


A trace( varGetDates.issuedates) inserted immediately before "if(success)" 
returns an empty string. Same statement, following the if(success) is never 
evaluated.


No conversion was followed, the previous Flash MX version was opened using 
Flash MX 2004, and then simply Save As'd to a new location; when warned 
that the file would no longer be openable in Flash MX I clicked on OK.


Have I missed something really basic?

I'm compiling as ActionScript 1 in the Publish settings.

A steer in the right direction will be greatly appreciated - Miles Thompson
  



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[Flashcoders] Open Source Flash Conference

2005-10-18 Thread Nicolas Cannasse

Hi list,

On Friday 21st will be held *online* using Flash Breeze the first
OpenSourceFlash Conference (OFLA). You can attend for free
and learn how to leverage OS tools in your everyday work.

The program is the following (times in GMT) :

17:55 Introduction by Nicolas Cannasse
18:00 Keynote : The OSFlash Revolution by Aral Balkan
18:30 Session : RED5 Prototype Unveiled by John Grden
19:00 Session : The ASWing GUI Framework by Firdosh Tangri
19:30 Session : The ActionStep GUI Framework by Richard Kilmer
20:00 Break 15 minutes
20:15 Session : Using OSFlash tools in a big project by Carlos Rovira
20:45 Session : Flash Rich Desktop Applications by Edwin Van Rijkom
21:15 Session : Using the Flash JavaScript Integration Kit by Igor Costa
21:45 Session : MTASC past , present and futur by Nicolas Cannasse
22:15 Conclusion

You can get all the information from OSFlash Wiki at
http://osflash.org/ofla_online

Don't hesitate to blog about the conference or forward this announcement on
other Flash related lists.

Best Regards,
Nicolas Cannasse


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[Flashcoders] Eval has been removed from AS3!

2005-10-18 Thread bryan.rice


Can you believe it?  Is not eval() part of ECMA 4?  I am heart-broken...

blue skies,
bryan
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[Flashcoders] A reason to use Windows

2005-10-18 Thread Jaye Morris

Flex 2 I cannot run it on my Mac :-(
 Woe is me.

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[Flashcoders] Please Help - missing item from loaded XML file, but not when I simulate download?!

2005-10-18 Thread Kent Humphrey


http://fari.kentandangela.com

This is a website I am days away from delivering, and today I'm getting a crazy 
problem.


The menu structure is loaded from an xml file. When I view this on the web, or 
preview from Flash, the 5th item of the main menu doesn't display.


When I do "simulate download" after previewing it, the 5th item IS there!

What do you see? I've got fast broadband here, but surely it's not skipping over 
a part of the file, the exact same part each time I load it??


This menu system has been working fine for over a week now...

Changing the order of the items in the xml file has no difference, it's always 
the 5th item that wont display, not matter which of my items is in 5th place.


Here is the code to generate the menu items, of course it's looping through them 
so all items are getting exactly the same instructions...


[code]
// build as many root menu items as listed in the xml
for (var i:Number = 0; itempMC = mainMenu.attachMovie("menu_item", tempLabel, 
mainMenu.getNextHighestDepth(), {_x:550, _y:i*20+48});

tempMC.level = "main";
tempText = tempMC.createTextField("label_text", 1, 0, 0, 200, 20);
tempText._visible = false;
tempText.autoSize = "left";
tempText.text = tempLabel.toUpperCase();
tempText.antiAliasType = "advanced";
tempText.embedFonts = true;
tempText.selectable = false;
tempText.setTextFormat(menu_fmt);
tempText._visible = true;
trace("text: "+tempMC);

}[/code]

(Note, I am using Sephiroth's XML2Obj class to handle the parsing of the xml 
file - as you can see it's reading everything else correctly)


The return from that trace statement is as you expect, it returns the correct 
MC, so it's definitely being created.


Anyone got any ideas? I've been hammering away at this problem for about 4 hours 
now :angry:


Flash 8 Pro, WinXP, published to AS2, Flash Player 8, same issue on Firefox and 
IE.

XML file here http://fari.kentandangela.com/site_tree.xml
.swf here http://fari.kentandangela.com/fari.swf

ignoreWhitespace = true/false isn't making any difference.

Excuse the XML, it's my first, so it might not be structured correctly...
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Re: [Flashcoders] FLASHCODERS IS BACK ONLINE!

2005-10-18 Thread Helen Triolo


Thank you!!!

Steve Drucker wrote:






Regards,

Steve Drucker

CEO

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[Flashcoders] ADMIN: List status

Hi, everyone!

As you've probably noticed, the list has been down for several days. It
appears to be back up now. I apologize for the inconvenience, and would like
to thank José Francisco Rives Lirola and Muzak for helping to get it back
online.

Thanks very much for your patience; I really appreciate it!

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[Flashcoders] List for FLEX 2

2005-10-18 Thread Savio Ponte

Is there any list about FLEX 2?
I´ve downloaded last night the Alpha 1 version, and just can´t wait to talk
about it and know people impression about it.
Kinda cool, by the way.
TIA,

Savio Ponte
Tulipa Design
www.tulipa.rec.br 
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Re: [Flashcoders] FLASHCODERS IS BACK ONLINE!

2005-10-18 Thread Chad Mefferd


What happened?

Chad Mefferd
Director of Digital Media
Morris Printing Group
308.234.1385 ext. 285

On Oct 18, 2005, at 1:41 PM, Steve Drucker wrote:






Regards,

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Re: [Flashcoders] FLASHCODERS IS BACK ONLINE!



woot ! :)

Steve Drucker wrote:






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Re: [Flashcoders] FLASHCODERS IS BACK ONLINE!

2005-10-18 Thread Mendizabal

What the hell happened?!

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[Flashcoders] Test

2005-10-18 Thread Adrian Lynch

Not seen a post since last Sunday so testing...

Ade
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[Flashcoders] RE: test

Another test - I think the list is back up now.

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> test
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[Flashcoders] offtopic test

2005-10-18 Thread Ruben


I don´t receive any message from this list


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RE: [Flashcoders] Where do I get the Flash Debug Player v8?

2005-10-18 Thread Ross Ladell

Hi David:

Ya, it's bundled with the Flash 8 IDE- I haven't seen it on the
macromedia site- but you could just download the trial and it would be
in \Program Files\Macromedia\Flash 8\Players\Debug .

Ross
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Subject: [Flashcoders] Where do I get the Flash Debug Player v8?

I still am using Flash IDE 7, but I want to be able to try things out
in Flash Player 8 and be able to use the mm.cfg functionality to see
trace output, but I have not been able to find the version 8 debug
player.

Is this downloadable somewhere?  Or does one have to have Flash 8 to get
it?

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[Flashcoders] Ferienabwesenheit von Marcel Vogt

Liebe Geschäftspartner und liebe Freunde

Zurzeit und bis zum 2. November bin ich nicht direkt erreichbar. In dringenden 
Fällen wenden Sie sich bitte an Bruno Vogt (079 205 68 68) oder versuchen mich 
unter 079 22 22 655 zu kontaktieren. Ich werde mich unmittelbar nach meiner 
Rückkehr melden.

Vielen Dank für Ihr Verständnis.

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[Flashcoders] FLASHCODERS IS BACK ONLINE!

2005-10-18 Thread Steve Drucker

 

 

Regards,

Steve Drucker

CEO

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