[Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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We use James Walker's Hybrid CD Construction Kit on the Mac: http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/hybrid-cd.html HTH, Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Paul Steven paul_ste...@btinternet.com wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
I may have misunderstood Paul's requirements. Paul - if you want to make all files on the disk visible to both platforms, just normally burning a disk on Windows or Mac should be fine (as Karl suggests). If you want _different_ files to appear to each platform, look at something like the Hybrid CD kit I suggested. HTH, Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: What are you using to burn your CD if your not using Toast? Are you on a PC or can you use a MAC? If your on a MAC using 10 or greater, you can just put in a CD and it should ask you what to do. Choose Open Finder (I believe is the option) it will load your cd to the desktop and you can open it and load it up with files like a thumbdrive or any other device. Make sure you dont just move your files, make sure their copying. Hold the option key when moving them to the folder. When your done copying the files to the burn folder (the image of your CD on the desktop), up in the right corner, there should be a burn cd button on the edge of the window. Click it and sit back. If you burn your cd this way, MAC automatically sets it to a cross platform format (I believe) HTH Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 1:52 AM, Paul Steven wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
What are you using to burn your CD if your not using Toast? Are you on a PC or can you use a MAC? If your on a MAC using 10 or greater, you can just put in a CD and it should ask you what to do. Choose Open Finder (I believe is the option) it will load your cd to the desktop and you can open it and load it up with files like a thumbdrive or any other device. Make sure you dont just move your files, make sure their copying. Hold the option key when moving them to the folder. When your done copying the files to the burn folder (the image of your CD on the desktop), up in the right corner, there should be a burn cd button on the edge of the window. Click it and sit back. If you burn your cd this way, MAC automatically sets it to a cross platform format (I believe) HTH Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 1:52 AM, Paul Steven wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
Not that I've found yet... But to be honest, however much of the build/disk creation process I've managed to automate on the PC (and on Ubuntu), I've always found it's necessary to go to the Mac for some of the process (notably DMG creation - can't find a decent tool for that on PC - and application of background images etc. to a Mac disk image). If you're serious about distributing for a Mac, then you need a Mac. (For testing, if nothing else!) Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Cor c...@chello.nl wrote: Is there an Hybrid CD Construction Kit version for the PC? Regards Cor -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: donderdag 22 oktober 2009 9:29 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM We use James Walker's Hybrid CD Construction Kit on the Mac: http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/hybrid-cd.html HTH, Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Paul Steven paul_ste...@btinternet.com wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
Is there an Hybrid CD Construction Kit version for the PC? Regards Cor -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: donderdag 22 oktober 2009 9:29 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM We use James Walker's Hybrid CD Construction Kit on the Mac: http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/hybrid-cd.html HTH, Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Paul Steven paul_ste...@btinternet.com wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
Paul Steven wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Hi, I used CD Everywhere for the PC to create a Cross Platform project. http://www.i2rd.com/CDEveryWhere/faq.shtml It works on Windows, you can create a CDROM with the free version, I think it leaves something on the disk, but should not affect your app. I have a link at home to a really good doc for this - will post later. There are also some threads on the mailing list with some tips tricks in, e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com/msg39873.html Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Thank you Glen! -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pike Sent: donderdag 22 oktober 2009 9:48 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM Paul Steven wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Hi, I used CD Everywhere for the PC to create a Cross Platform project. http://www.i2rd.com/CDEveryWhere/faq.shtml It works on Windows, you can create a CDROM with the free version, I think it leaves something on the disk, but should not affect your app. I have a link at home to a really good doc for this - will post later. There are also some threads on the mailing list with some tips tricks in, e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com/msg39873.html Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
Thanks Ian. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: donderdag 22 oktober 2009 9:45 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM Not that I've found yet... But to be honest, however much of the build/disk creation process I've managed to automate on the PC (and on Ubuntu), I've always found it's necessary to go to the Mac for some of the process (notably DMG creation - can't find a decent tool for that on PC - and application of background images etc. to a Mac disk image). If you're serious about distributing for a Mac, then you need a Mac. (For testing, if nothing else!) Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Cor c...@chello.nl wrote: Is there an Hybrid CD Construction Kit version for the PC? Regards Cor -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: donderdag 22 oktober 2009 9:29 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM We use James Walker's Hybrid CD Construction Kit on the Mac: http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/hybrid-cd.html HTH, Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Paul Steven paul_ste...@btinternet.com wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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I am not sure if it is for pc, but dragon burn is a great app for creating all kinds of CDs Karl Sent from losPhone On Oct 22, 2009, at 2:48 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Paul Steven wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Hi, I used CD Everywhere for the PC to create a Cross Platform project. http://www.i2rd.com/CDEveryWhere/faq.shtml It works on Windows, you can create a CDROM with the free version, I think it leaves something on the disk, but should not affect your app. I have a link at home to a really good doc for this - will post later. There are also some threads on the mailing list with some tips tricks in, e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com/msg39873.html Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
Thanks for all the swift replies. I have a Mac Mini so burning on the Mac is an option. I was under the impression there would be a different executable file for each platform, the only other files are swf files that are loaded into this main container movie executable. Sounds like it may be possible to do this on the Mac without the need for Toast. If this is the case, then do I need to just copy the pc exe file to the Mac? Thanks Paul -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl DeSaulniers Sent: 22 October 2009 08:54 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM I am not sure if it is for pc, but dragon burn is a great app for creating all kinds of CDs Karl Sent from losPhone On Oct 22, 2009, at 2:48 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Paul Steven wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Hi, I used CD Everywhere for the PC to create a Cross Platform project. http://www.i2rd.com/CDEveryWhere/faq.shtml It works on Windows, you can create a CDROM with the free version, I think it leaves something on the disk, but should not affect your app. I have a link at home to a really good doc for this - will post later. There are also some threads on the mailing list with some tips tricks in, e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com/msg39873.html Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
Ian, assuming there is a different executable file for both mac and pc, does this mean that both would be visible on both platforms? Will look at the hybrid kit in the meantime. Thanks Paul -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: 22 October 2009 08:36 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM I may have misunderstood Paul's requirements. Paul - if you want to make all files on the disk visible to both platforms, just normally burning a disk on Windows or Mac should be fine (as Karl suggests). If you want _different_ files to appear to each platform, look at something like the Hybrid CD kit I suggested. HTH, Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: What are you using to burn your CD if your not using Toast? Are you on a PC or can you use a MAC? If your on a MAC using 10 or greater, you can just put in a CD and it should ask you what to do. Choose Open Finder (I believe is the option) it will load your cd to the desktop and you can open it and load it up with files like a thumbdrive or any other device. Make sure you dont just move your files, make sure their copying. Hold the option key when moving them to the folder. When your done copying the files to the burn folder (the image of your CD on the desktop), up in the right corner, there should be a burn cd button on the edge of the window. Click it and sit back. If you burn your cd this way, MAC automatically sets it to a cross platform format (I believe) HTH Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 1:52 AM, Paul Steven wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Sorry to interject, but you have to export an EXE for PC and a Projector for MAC and then you can burn those to a CD and both platforms will be able to run from the cd. I thought you were just talking about having the disk read. Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:09 AM, Paul Steven wrote: Ian, assuming there is a different executable file for both mac and pc, does this mean that both would be visible on both platforms? Will look at the hybrid kit in the meantime. Thanks Paul -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: 22 October 2009 08:36 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM I may have misunderstood Paul's requirements. Paul - if you want to make all files on the disk visible to both platforms, just normally burning a disk on Windows or Mac should be fine (as Karl suggests). If you want _different_ files to appear to each platform, look at something like the Hybrid CD kit I suggested. HTH, Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: What are you using to burn your CD if your not using Toast? Are you on a PC or can you use a MAC? If your on a MAC using 10 or greater, you can just put in a CD and it should ask you what to do. Choose Open Finder (I believe is the option) it will load your cd to the desktop and you can open it and load it up with files like a thumbdrive or any other device. Make sure you dont just move your files, make sure their copying. Hold the option key when moving them to the folder. When your done copying the files to the burn folder (the image of your CD on the desktop), up in the right corner, there should be a burn cd button on the edge of the window. Click it and sit back. If you burn your cd this way, MAC automatically sets it to a cross platform format (I believe) HTH Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 1:52 AM, Paul Steven wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Paul Steven paul_ste...@btinternet.com wrote: Ian, assuming there is a different executable file for both mac and pc, does this mean that both would be visible on both platforms? Just using standard burning options, yes. Which isn't necessarily a problem, as long as your users are fairly savvy, but is at the least untidy! The important thing about Hybrid CDs is that some files are hidden from one platform, and some from another (although some can be shared across both). Typically, for example, we include Windows autorun.exe and Setup.exe visible only to Windows, an AIR file visible to both platforms, and the Mac AIR installer visible only to the Mac. Ian ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Thanks Ian - sounds like Hybrid is what I need then. Still haven't had a chance to look at Air - but it would probably have done the job that Zinc does. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: 22 October 2009 09:16 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Paul Steven paul_ste...@btinternet.com wrote: Ian, assuming there is a different executable file for both mac and pc, does this mean that both would be visible on both platforms? Just using standard burning options, yes. Which isn't necessarily a problem, as long as your users are fairly savvy, but is at the least untidy! The important thing about Hybrid CDs is that some files are hidden from one platform, and some from another (although some can be shared across both). Typically, for example, we include Windows autorun.exe and Setup.exe visible only to Windows, an AIR file visible to both platforms, and the Mac AIR installer visible only to the Mac. Ian ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Flashplayer install on IE8 / Vista
Hi, Has anyone else had the unfortunate experience of installing Flashplayer for IE8 on Vista?? Seems like instead of a single Install ActiveX Control, I now have to suffer Adobe's bloated Download Manager craplication to install my Flashplayer (which triggers several of Vista's paranoid are you really sure... dialogs). Grrr, c'mon Adobe, single click install in my browser please... Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
Karl - but what I'm saying is that both will be _visible_ on both platforms. If that's acceptable to Paul/his client, then great! If not, he needs to look at the hybrid CD option. Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Sorry to interject, but you have to export an EXE for PC and a Projector for MAC and then you can burn those to a CD and both platforms will be able to run from the cd. I thought you were just talking about having the disk read. Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:09 AM, Paul Steven wrote: Ian, assuming there is a different executable file for both mac and pc, does this mean that both would be visible on both platforms? Will look at the hybrid kit in the meantime. Thanks Paul -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: 22 October 2009 08:36 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM I may have misunderstood Paul's requirements. Paul - if you want to make all files on the disk visible to both platforms, just normally burning a disk on Windows or Mac should be fine (as Karl suggests). If you want _different_ files to appear to each platform, look at something like the Hybrid CD kit I suggested. HTH, Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: What are you using to burn your CD if your not using Toast? Are you on a PC or can you use a MAC? If your on a MAC using 10 or greater, you can just put in a CD and it should ask you what to do. Choose Open Finder (I believe is the option) it will load your cd to the desktop and you can open it and load it up with files like a thumbdrive or any other device. Make sure you dont just move your files, make sure their copying. Hold the option key when moving them to the folder. When your done copying the files to the burn folder (the image of your CD on the desktop), up in the right corner, there should be a burn cd button on the edge of the window. Click it and sit back. If you burn your cd this way, MAC automatically sets it to a cross platform format (I believe) HTH Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 1:52 AM, Paul Steven wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
Doing a test, I see that Zinc allows me to create both pc and mac packaged files on the PC. The PC file is just a standard exe file and the Mac file appears to be a folder with the extension .app -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl DeSaulniers Sent: 22 October 2009 08:54 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM I am not sure if it is for pc, but dragon burn is a great app for creating all kinds of CDs Karl Sent from losPhone On Oct 22, 2009, at 2:48 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Paul Steven wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Hi, I used CD Everywhere for the PC to create a Cross Platform project. http://www.i2rd.com/CDEveryWhere/faq.shtml It works on Windows, you can create a CDROM with the free version, I think it leaves something on the disk, but should not affect your app. I have a link at home to a really good doc for this - will post later. There are also some threads on the mailing list with some tips tricks in, e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com/msg39873.html Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flashplayer install on IE8 / Vista
Glen Pike wrote: Hi, Has anyone else had the unfortunate experience of installing Flashplayer for IE8 on Vista?? Seems like instead of a single Install ActiveX Control, I now have to suffer Adobe's bloated Download Manager craplication to install my Flashplayer (which triggers several of Vista's paranoid are you really sure... dialogs). Grrr, c'mon Adobe, single click install in my browser please... Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Great it does not even work on Firefox - nice one Adobe. Come on Adobe make some working installers please. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
Oh yes, you are correct, I was referring to the files exported from Flash, to be used by each platform on the CD. Not the Cd being burnt itself in that last post. If he burnt an EXE on a multi-platform CD, MAC would not be able to play his file. Sorry for any confusion. :) Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:33 AM, Ian Thomas wrote: Karl - but what I'm saying is that both will be _visible_ on both platforms. If that's acceptable to Paul/his client, then great! If not, he needs to look at the hybrid CD option. Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Sorry to interject, but you have to export an EXE for PC and a Projector for MAC and then you can burn those to a CD and both platforms will be able to run from the cd. I thought you were just talking about having the disk read. Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:09 AM, Paul Steven wrote: Ian, assuming there is a different executable file for both mac and pc, does this mean that both would be visible on both platforms? Will look at the hybrid kit in the meantime. Thanks Paul -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: 22 October 2009 08:36 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM I may have misunderstood Paul's requirements. Paul - if you want to make all files on the disk visible to both platforms, just normally burning a disk on Windows or Mac should be fine (as Karl suggests). If you want _different_ files to appear to each platform, look at something like the Hybrid CD kit I suggested. HTH, Ian On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: What are you using to burn your CD if your not using Toast? Are you on a PC or can you use a MAC? If your on a MAC using 10 or greater, you can just put in a CD and it should ask you what to do. Choose Open Finder (I believe is the option) it will load your cd to the desktop and you can open it and load it up with files like a thumbdrive or any other device. Make sure you dont just move your files, make sure their copying. Hold the option key when moving them to the folder. When your done copying the files to the burn folder (the image of your CD on the desktop), up in the right corner, there should be a burn cd button on the edge of the window. Click it and sit back. If you burn your cd this way, MAC automatically sets it to a cross platform format (I believe) HTH Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 1:52 AM, Paul Steven wrote: Been a long time since I have had to make a cross platform CDROM, or even a CDROM at all to be honest. Anyway I have developed a series of educational games with Flash CS3, with the main packaged file packaged with MDM Zinc (to enable me to have a coloured background outside the stage area). I would appreciate any advice on the best way to create a cross platform CDROM. Can I create this on the PC or do I need to purchase Toast for the Mac to do this? Thanks in advance Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flashplayer install on IE8 / Vista
Hi, Does anyone know how I get Flashplayer 10 installed on Firefox Vista because the installation instructions do not show what's happening on my machine... The Adobe DLM is installed, but now it just pops up without downloading anything and there is no option to allow this add-on to do anything??? Ta Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flashplayer install on IE8 / Vista
Did you try right clicking and saving the installer to your desktop and run from there? Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:47 AM, Glen Pike wrote: Hi, Does anyone know how I get Flashplayer 10 installed on Firefox Vista because the installation instructions do not show what's happening on my machine... The Adobe DLM is installed, but now it just pops up without downloading anything and there is no option to allow this add-on to do anything??? Ta Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flashplayer install on IE8 / Vista
Karl DeSaulniers wrote: I know you can find older installers on Adobe's site that may work. Maybe a earlier release of 10 will work. Karl Hi, Found the installer thanks - all the DLM rubbish was smoke mirrors it seems... Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flashplayer install on IE8 / Vista
I know you can find older installers on Adobe's site that may work. Maybe a earlier release of 10 will work. Karl On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:47 AM, Glen Pike wrote: Hi, Does anyone know how I get Flashplayer 10 installed on Firefox Vista because the installation instructions do not show what's happening on my machine... The Adobe DLM is installed, but now it just pops up without downloading anything and there is no option to allow this add-on to do anything??? Ta Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Flashplayer install on IE8 / Vista
This was a problem for me as well, in Firefox on WinXP. I was on Facebook and when I tried to play a TopGear video it asked me to update my player.. I had been using a debug v10 player, but the previous release. I was taken to the Adobe site, clicked on an install it now button and suddenly I was installing the Adobe download manager and, without even asking me or giving me the ability to cancel, it installed McAfee antivirus scanner as well. The one thing I wanted, the updated plugin, never installed. Probably because I, in irritation, killed the download manager and then wasted my time uninstalling it and McAfee. I ended up downloading a new version of the debug plugin and installing from my hard drive. Not exactly a great end-user experience. Andrew Murphy Interactive Media Specialist amur...@delvinia.com Delvinia 214 King Street West, Suite 214 Toronto Canada M5H 3S6 P 416.364.1455 ext. 232 F 416.364.9830 W www.delvinia.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or received this communication by error, please notify the sender and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ Ce message peut contenir de l'information légalement privilégiée ou confidentielle. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire ou croyez avoir reçu par erreur ce message, nous vous saurions gré d'en aviser l'émetteur et d'en détruire le contenu sans le communiquer a d'autres ou le reproduire. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pike Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:27 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Flashplayer install on IE8 / Vista Hi, Has anyone else had the unfortunate experience of installing Flashplayer for IE8 on Vista?? Seems like instead of a single Install ActiveX Control, I now have to suffer Adobe's bloated Download Manager craplication to install my Flashplayer (which triggers several of Vista's paranoid are you really sure... dialogs). Grrr, c'mon Adobe, single click install in my browser please... Glen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Converting .swf playback to .mov
This does work just fine with CS4, scripted animation and all. A couple of tips: - Export the movie at 100% size. I've found the exporter does a lousy job of scaling. If you need to scale the output, use minimal QT compression, then use a tool like MPEG Streamclip or ffmpeg to scale and compress the final QT files. - Remember: Unless you've told it to stop at a particular timecode, the exporter will play the movie until it reaches the end of the timeline. Therefore, if there's a loop or stop action in the timeline, the exporter will *never* reach the end of the timeline, and the export process will hang. -Jim Ashim D'Silva wrote: Pretty sure CS4 handles it fine. Including actionscripted animation. Haven't pushed it hard, but worth a shot. 2009/10/21 Joel Stransky j...@stranskydesign.com: Ok, I'm well aware of the limitation in exporting an .fla to quicktime. You only get the main timeline, no sub clips or scripted animation. What I'm asking is if there's some new product on the market that has tackled this issue successfully. So far is looks like a screen reader is the way to go, I'd just like to get some alpha (key) control over the output that doesn't require me recording it over a green background. Thanks for any direction. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Creating Cross-Platform CDROM
I never had anything but trouble when trying to make a hybrid from the PC side. Toast on the MAC is rock solid and has been for years. John on 10/22/09 2:35 AM, Cor at c...@chello.nl wrote: Is there an Hybrid CD Construction Kit version for the PC? Regards Cor John R. Sweeney Jr. Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc 945 Washington Blvd. Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 Office/Fax: 847.310.5959 Cellular: 847.651.4469 www.ondemandinteractive.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Inheritance and Static properties
So I understand that I can access static properties only child-parent but not if we instantiate the subclass some where else within the application but what would be the best way to go around this? -ButtonParent -contains basic rollover/rollout/click events and does dispatchEvent (new Event (BUTTON_CLICK)); -Children inherit ButtonParent and I want to be able to listen for the event and also get the Name of the child. var button1 : ButtonParent = new Child(); button1.addEventListener (Child.BUTTON_CLICK, doClickStuff) // of course wont work because we cant access the static constants from child button1.addEventListener (ButtonParent.BUTTON_CLICK, doClickStuff)// this works but now I cant access the NAME from the child private function doClickStuff ( event : Event ) : void { trace(event.target )// Child trace(event.NAME)// undefined } // here is some more about the child public class Child extends ButtonParent extends IButton { public static const NAME : String = ChildName; } Any ideas or recommendations? I did get around the issue but not using static constants for the BUTTON_CLICK constant and just setting it up as a public var button1.addEventListener ( button1.BUTTON_CLICK, doClickStuff)// now this works but looks such an ugly hack. TIA ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Facebook examples - NON-Flex
Looking for examples of getting the FB API to work with the Flash IDE, all examples found are using mxml in flex. Any pointers? Thanks! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Inheritance and Static properties
Just double checking but in your trace statement you are looking for the NAME property on the event? trace(event.NAME)// undefined You probably mean event.target.NAME but I'm just checking the obvious. -jonathan On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helmut Granda cont...@helmutgranda.comwrote: So I understand that I can access static properties only child-parent but not if we instantiate the subclass some where else within the application but what would be the best way to go around this? -ButtonParent -contains basic rollover/rollout/click events and does dispatchEvent (new Event (BUTTON_CLICK)); -Children inherit ButtonParent and I want to be able to listen for the event and also get the Name of the child. var button1 : ButtonParent = new Child(); button1.addEventListener (Child.BUTTON_CLICK, doClickStuff) // of course wont work because we cant access the static constants from child button1.addEventListener (ButtonParent.BUTTON_CLICK, doClickStuff)// this works but now I cant access the NAME from the child private function doClickStuff ( event : Event ) : void { trace(event.target )// Child trace(event.NAME)// undefined } // here is some more about the child public class Child extends ButtonParent extends IButton { public static const NAME : String = ChildName; } Any ideas or recommendations? I did get around the issue but not using static constants for the BUTTON_CLICK constant and just setting it up as a public var button1.addEventListener ( button1.BUTTON_CLICK, doClickStuff)// now this works but looks such an ugly hack. TIA ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- -jonathan howe ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Inheritance and Static properties
Correct, i was thinking of var object = event.target object.NAME; but I was typing faster than thinking :). On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:00 PM, jonathan howe jonathangh...@gmail.comwrote: Just double checking but in your trace statement you are looking for the NAME property on the event? trace(event.NAME)// undefined You probably mean event.target.NAME but I'm just checking the obvious. -jonathan On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Helmut Granda cont...@helmutgranda.com wrote: So I understand that I can access static properties only child-parent but not if we instantiate the subclass some where else within the application but what would be the best way to go around this? -ButtonParent -contains basic rollover/rollout/click events and does dispatchEvent (new Event (BUTTON_CLICK)); -Children inherit ButtonParent and I want to be able to listen for the event and also get the Name of the child. var button1 : ButtonParent = new Child(); button1.addEventListener (Child.BUTTON_CLICK, doClickStuff) // of course wont work because we cant access the static constants from child button1.addEventListener (ButtonParent.BUTTON_CLICK, doClickStuff)// this works but now I cant access the NAME from the child private function doClickStuff ( event : Event ) : void { trace(event.target )// Child trace(event.NAME)// undefined } // here is some more about the child public class Child extends ButtonParent extends IButton { public static const NAME : String = ChildName; } Any ideas or recommendations? I did get around the issue but not using static constants for the BUTTON_CLICK constant and just setting it up as a public var button1.addEventListener ( button1.BUTTON_CLICK, doClickStuff)// now this works but looks such an ugly hack. TIA ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- -jonathan howe ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] getting information about other application window with adobe air?
Hi, I need develop a desktop application, which needs get some information about a specific window of the other application, like name of window, size and position. I thought to use adobe air to develop it, but It doesn't has this functionality, I can get just the size of screen. Who knows some way to do this? Some wrapper able to get external information from the system or something like that? Thanks ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders