[Flashcoders] what's happened to newbie?

2007-03-02 Thread aklist_flash

The flashnewbie forum is no longer functional...apparently there's no hard
disk space left on the server.

On the figleaf website [EMAIL PROTECTED] is listed as the admin for 
flashnewbie, but that

email address is not accepting messages.


TIA 


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Re: [Flashcoders] This is really really really annoying

2007-02-23 Thread aklist_flash

yeah, me too :(

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Styles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 3:33 PM
Subject: [Flashcoders] This is really really really annoying



I've reset the password, i've logged in and changed my options to reflect
the fact that I WANT A DIGEST (AGAIN)

It _seemed_ to accept my request, yet i'm still getting individual 
messages

from the mailing list...

this is NOT A DIGEST! I DONT WANT individual messages...

I like being part of the lst and don't want to have to unsubscribe because
it got annoying. please fix whatever needs to be fixed.
thanks.
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[Flashcoders] can't login to switch back to digest?

2007-02-23 Thread aklist_flash
dunno if it's just me, but after the list was restarted, my digest-mode sub 
changed to individual emails.


I went to http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders but 
can't log in with my subscribed address and old password.


Is there any way to send a command to the list to switch to digest mode? 


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Re: [Flashcoders] Text arching

2006-06-28 Thread aklist_flash



Yeah, that's the answer I'd rather not contemplate. 
   Well, that is how most of the Java applets work. You can probably find 
Java source code if you google for it and port it to AS.


ryanm


I appreciate the encouragement and wish it were within my abilities...this 
was a long thread but I started it with "at the recommendation of 
flash-newbie I'm bringing this over to flash-coders"...I'm just a newbie and 
was hoping someone here knew what I was talking about and would say "sure 
you just have to do x-y-z".


I know just enough about Flash to be dangerous, but not anywhere near enough 
to tackle this kind of programming. :(


But, thanks again for trying to help me out!

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Re: [Flashcoders] Text arching

2006-06-28 Thread aklist_flash





My real question is, if this image-manipulation is available in the IDE, 
how difficult is it to provide in the client or within AS3? I guess the 
answer is "very difficult" or "more trouble than it's worth"?


   No, the answer is "see the documentation on bitmapData". You have to do 
it the old-fashioned way, by shifting pixels.


ryanm


Yeah, that's the answer I'd rather not contemplate.  


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Re: [Flashcoders] Text arching

2006-06-28 Thread aklist_flash

> Does that do anything but move the corners around? What I'm
> looking for is a way to create a distortion like:


Well with a little thought - given that you now have the ability to fit
a texture to any "shape" you can know chop your text up into tiles using
bitmap data - then fit the multiple tiles to the "Shape"


yes, but to create smoothly curving shape? How finely would it have to be 
"chopped up"? Dice, mince, pulverize?


I think you would have to create as many "slices" as screen pixels, or you 
would get mis-aligned edges between each "slice"...and that would be a lot 
of "slices"?


Anyway, that's why I'm asking the list...it is totally beyond me at this 
point. :(



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Re: [Flashcoders] Text arching

2006-06-28 Thread aklist_flash





You might like this:
DEMO class v1:
http://sandy.media-box.net/blog/distortimage-20-the-fastest-way-to-freely-distort-image-with-flash-in-actionscript.html

SOURCE class v2:
http://sandy.media-box.net/blog/distortimage-20-the-fastest-way-to-freely-distort-image-with-flash-in-actionscript.html

cheers,
Latcho


Does that do anything but move the corners around? What I'm looking for is a 
way to create a distortion like:


 x
x x
x x
 x   x   x
xx xx
xx xx
x x   x x
x   x

This is _easily_ done in the IDE with the envelope tools, and it's easily 
done in the "text-warp" CP of PHotoshop from a preselected list, and it's 
been available in TypeStyler for 15 years or so.


I've seen this done on a number of websites, but with Java Applets. I guess 
they're hooking into some kind of vector-mapping engine, but I don't know 
how they're doing it. An example is here:


http://www.customink.com/cink/r.jsp?E=ci&F=t

My real question is, if this image-manipulation is available in the IDE, how 
difficult is it to provide in the client or within AS3? I guess the answer 
is "very difficult" or "more trouble than it's worth"?


-AK



GregoryN wrote:

 Sorry, but what's "LART"?

I think that, with skew function(s), the task of simulating an
envelope, e.g., placing text between 2-4 lines is just a question of 
math.

Well, probably quite advanced :-).
I've already described it in general (see quotation below).

As to envelope in Flash IDE, it works with vector shapes (probably in
the same "skew" way), not text. You need to "Break Apart" the text,
right?

So far I don't know about any way to convert dynamic text to shapes
(e.g., break apart) at runtime via AS.

BTW, maybe anyone knows how to "break apart" text with AS? I'd
appreciate any idea regarding it.





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Re: [Flashcoders] Text arching

2006-06-28 Thread aklist_flash



Sorry, but what's "LART"?


If you don't know, then I take back the accusation :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lart


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Re: [Flashcoders] Text arching

2006-06-27 Thread aklist_flash




Well,

The first thing Google brings for "site:chattyfig.figleaf.com envelope"
is recent Flashcoders discussion "Applying transformations to text?"
:-)


Are you LART'ng me? I started that thread, and never got the right answer!



AND also one named "skew function" (2001) with a nice functions from 
Robert

Penner and others.

Robin Debreuil's example:
http://www.debreuil.com/skew/skew_v01.swf


I haven't tried yet, but maybe you can:
1) Break (dynamic) text into letters
2) Skew each letter and scale, if needed

What do you think?


I don't want to speak for Marc, but from my thread, what I'm looking for is 
an effect similar to what TypeStyler has done for 15 years, and what 
Photoshop has done going back to v. 6.0, which is an envelope distortion.


In fact, Flash can do it already in the IDE...convert text to vectors and 
then apply the envelope controls to all the letters as a group...and it does 
exactly what I need it to do.


But, there's no way to apply those controls in AS or programatically, which 
is how I started the thread...looking for another way to do it!


-Andre2w





--
Best regards,
GregoryN

http://GOusable.com
Flash components development.
Usability services.

--- aklist_flash wrote:

From the online samples, I don't see any demonstration of the claimed
ability to distort the text, just to place the letters along different
curves. Am I missing something? I hope so, since I've been looking for a
way to do text distortions (such as making text fit a flat-topped arch).

- Marc Hoffman


I, too, have been looking for a solution to this problem. Some users have
suggested using the bitmapData and the displacementMapFilter, but it seems
like it would be exceedingly complicated to do a very simple effect like 
an

"arch"...it would involve (I think) splitting the text into multiple
sections and applying different displacements to the sections...way beyond
me!

This FLA was suggested:
http://www.senocular.com/flash/source.php?id=0.172

and it seems like it could be tweaked to do a simple "squeeze" or
"bloat"...I haven't got that far with it yet.

Alternatively, it seems like it would be much simpler to pass the text and
some distortion parameters to an image-rendering app and re-import a PNG 
of

the distorted text into the player. I haven't been able to find any app,
however, that could run in the background on a server to handle the
image-processing!


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Re: [Flashcoders] Text arching

2006-06-27 Thread aklist_flash



From the online samples, I don't see any demonstration of the claimed 
ability to distort the text, just to place the letters along different 
curves. Am I missing something? I hope so, since I've been looking for a 
way to do text distortions (such as making text fit a flat-topped arch).


- Marc Hoffman


I, too, have been looking for a solution to this problem. Some users have 
suggested using the bitmapData and the displacementMapFilter, but it seems 
like it would be exceedingly complicated to do a very simple effect like an 
"arch"...it would involve (I think) splitting the text into multiple 
sections and applying different displacements to the sections...way beyond 
me!


This FLA was suggested:
http://www.senocular.com/flash/source.php?id=0.172

and it seems like it could be tweaked to do a simple "squeeze" or 
"bloat"...I haven't got that far with it yet.


Alternatively, it seems like it would be much simpler to pass the text and 
some distortion parameters to an image-rendering app and re-import a PNG of 
the distorted text into the player. I haven't been able to find any app, 
however, that could run in the background on a server to handle the 
image-processing!


-AK




At 09:23 PM 6/26/2006, you wrote:


I'd like to recommend Text2Curve component for this:
http://gousable.com/flash/text2curve.html

It has a lot of advantages over "TextOnCircle"   Weyert mentioned:
- can place text along ellipse or sine, not only circle
- more methods to manipulate this text
- can be used in Flash IDE, even rotated/distorted there.
- some more :-)

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Re: [Flashcoders] Applying transformations to text?

2006-06-23 Thread aklist_flash




I think you'd need to use bitmapData and some filters on it... like
displacement mapping, etc. Not a small task.


I took a look at the BitMapData class and the displacementMapFilter and I'm 
not sure if it can do what I want or not. I looked at the PerlinNoise filter 
as well and I don't see any way of creating a simple, symmetrical distortion 
with it.


Is it possible to take a regular bitmap shape (say, a "bulging" square) and 
map a MC or image to it?





On 6/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Hi All: I'm bringing this question over from flash-newbie at the
> suggestion of the list.
>
> I'm looking for insight into applying transformations to text (or
> vectorized text) such as Adobe's "warp" functionality, where you can
take
> an object and make it bulge, arc, squeeze, spherize, etc. in flash.
>
> Is it possible, or has anyone already done it? The goal would be to 
> have

> an interface where a user could input a line of text and then apply one
of
> several "distortion effects" to it.
>
> TIA, AK

OK...please LART me if I'm asking this question wrong!

I see that I can take a line of text, break it apart, and then grab the
envelope controls in the IDE and distort it however I want...but is there
a
way to programmatically control the envelope controls?

What I'd like to do is:

1) Create an interface where the user can type in a line of text, hit
enter,
and have the text appear as a draggable symbol (I can do that).

I think I would store the strings in vars, so I can manipulate them
destructively but be able to go back to the original text if necessary.

2) Have a combobox with all the system fonts in it, and have the user
select
the font they want to apply to the text/symbol (I think I can do that).

3) Make the symbol "scalable" so the user can position it however they
want
against a reference shape (I can do that).

4) Have a combobox or radio array of "envelope distortions" that the user
could apply to the text/symbol one at a time. I imagine that I could 
write

a
function that would take an object and apply some predetermined envelope
modifications to create a desired effect, like "arc" or "bulge"

Is step 4 possible?

TIA, AK



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Re: [Flashcoders] Applying transformations to text?

2006-06-20 Thread aklist_flash



I think you'd need to use bitmapData and some filters on it... like
displacement mapping, etc. Not a small task.


Thanks!

Any suggestions on where I could look for more information on applying 
filters to bitmapData other than on this list?


Are there any other ways of doing this? I thought about sending the text and 
transform instructions from the SWF to some other software (commercial or 
non), and then re-importing a rasterized image back into the SWF.


I think it could be done with Photoshop, but I don't know of any software 
that is available that can do it in a webserver environment (e.g. able to 
function without a user being logged into the system).


I looked at GIMP and it seemed like it might be possible, but I'm not a Unix 
programmer and quickly waded in over my head on that.


I've seen a couple of websites with very different interfaces that allow 
this text-warping functionality, but I don't know how they're doing 
it...some have used Java, some have used Flash (or Flash + something else).


TIA, AK



On 6/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Hi All: I'm bringing this question over from flash-newbie at the
> suggestion of the list.
>
> I'm looking for insight into applying transformations to text (or
> vectorized text) such as Adobe's "warp" functionality, where you can
take
> an object and make it bulge, arc, squeeze, spherize, etc. in flash.
>
> Is it possible, or has anyone already done it? The goal would be to 
> have

> an interface where a user could input a line of text and then apply one
of
> several "distortion effects" to it.
>
> TIA, AK

OK...please LART me if I'm asking this question wrong!

I see that I can take a line of text, break it apart, and then grab the
envelope controls in the IDE and distort it however I want...but is there
a
way to programmatically control the envelope controls?

What I'd like to do is:

1) Create an interface where the user can type in a line of text, hit
enter,
and have the text appear as a draggable symbol (I can do that).

I think I would store the strings in vars, so I can manipulate them
destructively but be able to go back to the original text if necessary.

2) Have a combobox with all the system fonts in it, and have the user
select
the font they want to apply to the text/symbol (I think I can do that).

3) Make the symbol "scalable" so the user can position it however they
want
against a reference shape (I can do that).

4) Have a combobox or radio array of "envelope distortions" that the user
could apply to the text/symbol one at a time. I imagine that I could 
write

a
function that would take an object and apply some predetermined envelope
modifications to create a desired effect, like "arc" or "bulge"

Is step 4 possible?

TIA, AK



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Re: [Flashcoders] Applying transformations to text?

2006-06-20 Thread aklist_flash
Hi All: I'm bringing this question over from flash-newbie at the 
suggestion of the list.


I'm looking for insight into applying transformations to text (or 
vectorized text) such as Adobe's "warp" functionality, where you can take 
an object and make it bulge, arc, squeeze, spherize, etc. in flash.


Is it possible, or has anyone already done it? The goal would be to have 
an interface where a user could input a line of text and then apply one of 
several "distortion effects" to it.


TIA, AK


OK...please LART me if I'm asking this question wrong!

I see that I can take a line of text, break it apart, and then grab the 
envelope controls in the IDE and distort it however I want...but is there a 
way to programmatically control the envelope controls?


What I'd like to do is:

1) Create an interface where the user can type in a line of text, hit enter, 
and have the text appear as a draggable symbol (I can do that).


I think I would store the strings in vars, so I can manipulate them 
destructively but be able to go back to the original text if necessary.


2) Have a combobox with all the system fonts in it, and have the user select 
the font they want to apply to the text/symbol (I think I can do that).


3) Make the symbol "scalable" so the user can position it however they want 
against a reference shape (I can do that).


4) Have a combobox or radio array of "envelope distortions" that the user 
could apply to the text/symbol one at a time. I imagine that I could write a 
function that would take an object and apply some predetermined envelope 
modifications to create a desired effect, like "arc" or "bulge"


Is step 4 possible?

TIA, AK



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[Flashcoders] Applying transformations to text?

2006-06-19 Thread aklist_flash
Hi All: I'm bringing this question over from flash-newbie at the suggestion 
of the list.


I'm looking for insight into applying transformations to text (or vectorized 
text) such as Adobe's "warp" functionality, where you can take an object and 
make it bulge, arc, squeeze, spherize, etc. in flash.


Is it possible, or has anyone already done it? The goal would be to have an 
interface where a user could input a line of text and then apply one of 
several "distortion effects" to it.


TIA, AK 


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