Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
tnx, but no need ;). All credits go to John for his awesome tool and his supercool attitude which made this tool possible. At 07:01 PM 12/22/2005, Dimitrios Bendilas wrote: The _global thing was Hans Wichman's idea. Just making sure he gets the credit! ;-) Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Excellent!! Thanks for letting me know D! yeah, there's a ton a ways to get at your application with xray - setting the _global pointer was a great/simple idea. Thanks again D, John ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Did you make any headway? On 12/22/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, thanks a lot for all the help! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Yes! I set _global.GAME = game (the object I was interested in), so I didn't have to dig in the trees and search for that, I accessed it directly from _global. I actually found what was causing the delay. My Animation class was setting some actions in the ActionManager that never got deleted if a certain contition was met and the ActionManager stored Action objects with parameters that built up and eventually slowed down the game. I fixed that and now it runs great! It was actually a just a tiny change: a n 0 that had to be n 1 ... The fun of programming... Yeah, right! Xray rocks by the way! I knew that already but I was lost in the tree chains in such huge projects. Now I know what to do if I can't find easily what I'm looking for. Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Did you make any headway? On 12/22/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, thanks a lot for all the help! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Excellent!! Thanks for letting me know D! yeah, there's a ton a ways to get at your application with xray - setting the _global pointer was a great/simple idea. Thanks again D, John On 12/22/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! I set _global.GAME = game (the object I was interested in), so I didn't have to dig in the trees and search for that, I accessed it directly from _global. I actually found what was causing the delay. My Animation class was setting some actions in the ActionManager that never got deleted if a certain contition was met and the ActionManager stored Action objects with parameters that built up and eventually slowed down the game. I fixed that and now it runs great! It was actually a just a tiny change: a n 0 that had to be n 1 ... The fun of programming... Yeah, right! Xray rocks by the way! I knew that already but I was lost in the tree chains in such huge projects. Now I know what to do if I can't find easily what I'm looking for. Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Did you make any headway? On 12/22/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, thanks a lot for all the help! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
The _global thing was Hans Wichman's idea. Just making sure he gets the credit! ;-) Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Excellent!! Thanks for letting me know D! yeah, there's a ton a ways to get at your application with xray - setting the _global pointer was a great/simple idea. Thanks again D, John ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Hello again, I've been doing test all this time but I still haven't found what I'm looking for. I'm not able to find the actual objects. When in _global I only see class names (functions). If I view _level0 or any movieclip child I only see movieclips (I'm not using classes that extend MovieClip) e.g. _global.com shows: blitzagency (object) darronschall (object) robertpenner (object) xfactorstudio (object) zefxis (object) applications (object) games (object) control (object) List (function) ScrollBar (function) ScrollableTextBox (function) Zefxis is my package, so everything game related should be in there. If I expand any of the other objects, like applications or games, at the end all I get is functions. So no actual object instances. _level0 shows: _level0 (movieclip) appPanels (movieclip) onAppChangeFocus (function) onLoad (function) sound_manager (movieclip) And if I expand anything in the tree all I get is movieclips and movieclip functions. What am I doing wrong? I'm still confused. I remember I used to be able to see object instances back when the application was still AdminTool. Thanks for the help Regards, Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener YES! that's a great tip - you don't have to start at _level0 in your snapshots - it's just the default ;) I'm surprised that the non-recursive searches posed a problem. Once you start with a single snapshot, you should be able to click on objects in the treeview and have it expand on demand. On 12/17/05, MyName [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great tips! John. Sorry for jumping in, Dimitrios. In my case, my desktop project got about 140 classes and many circular references. It'll take forever to take a snapshot from level0 with recursive option on. The snapshot returns nodes of the 1st tier from level0 if recursive option is turned off. But nothing will show up when clicking on a node that is too complex. So, what I had to do is to take a snapshot from a deep down path. For example in my case: _level0.gameBoard.gamePanel.operationPane.accViews.shipView. From that point, things seem started looking ok. Thanks, Doug - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Good! you're looking around and getting comfortable with doing so in Xray! Ok, some tips: 1. When browsing through global, you'll see your packages and objects. You'll see all classes - instance, static, singleton etc. You *can* see static properties/objects through global since that's where they live/are instanced. Singletons and Instanced classes can be where they're instanced. So, whatever timeline/movieclip has created the Object, that's where you can take a look through it / execute calls against it with Xray. 2. If you want to save time with browsing with the treeview, you can always use the trace/execute window to verify an objects/propertie's existance. (IE: _level0.main.myMovieClip.objX) 3. In your class, if it extends a movieclip, you could put in an xray trace (_global.tt(MyMovie, this); Then just copy and paste the path that spits out in the trace window and start checkingyour objects and props from there. Make sense? Let me know if you other questions. With xray, there's usually 3-4 ways to get an an object and mess with it ;) On 12/17/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello John, Sorry for the late reply, I wanted to run some tests before answering back. I'm aware of the way the garbage collector works (even though I'm a little confused with object parameters stored in the inline functions inside Delegates, if they get garbage collected after all or not). Throughout my framework and the custom code for the game I pay much attention to deleting all object references. I've used xray in the past sometimes. I did this now too but I'm having some troubles. The only lines in my .fla are import Application Application.main(_root); Where in xray should I be looking for object instances? I can see all movieclips if I take a snapshot of _level0 but if I want to see the instances of the Tile objects, or the TileManager, or the Countdown objects where should I look? I tried _global.com.zefxis which is where all the packages reside but all I see is functions (Classes) and no objects. e.g. _global.com.zefxis.solarwind snapshot gives me: animation (object) Animation (function) Animations (function) EaseFunctions (function) RelativeMovement (function) Sequence (function) Any clues? Thank you! Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
1. Put Xray back on stage in the _level0 timeline. 2. Click on it and select the parameters tab. 3. in the Class Packages array, add Zefxis 4. Republish and try a snapshot again. This time, it should at least show you the true class names/paths. I actually realized yesterday that if the connector wasn't on stage, the ClassPath engine isn't initialized (more on that later). In the older versions of the AdminTool, it used to only do Recursive searches and it would recurse objects at the same time as movieclips. That proved to be a huge task that caused script timeout errors left and right. Now, I list objects/movieclips (including arrays), but only movieclip's get recursed. If you want to drill down through an object, just click on it, and drill down through the property inspector. So, republish after doing the above. If you have it online, do you mind if I try and look through it with Xray? Let me know, Thanks, John On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again, I've been doing test all this time but I still haven't found what I'm looking for. I'm not able to find the actual objects. When in _global I only see class names (functions). If I view _level0 or any movieclip child I only see movieclips (I'm not using classes that extend MovieClip) e.g. _global.com shows: blitzagency (object) darronschall (object) robertpenner (object) xfactorstudio (object) zefxis (object) applications (object) games (object) control (object) List (function) ScrollBar (function) ScrollableTextBox (function) Zefxis is my package, so everything game related should be in there. If I expand any of the other objects, like applications or games, at the end all I get is functions. So no actual object instances. _level0 shows: _level0 (movieclip) appPanels (movieclip) onAppChangeFocus (function) onLoad (function) sound_manager (movieclip) And if I expand anything in the tree all I get is movieclips and movieclip functions. What am I doing wrong? I'm still confused. I remember I used to be able to see object instances back when the application was still AdminTool. Thanks for the help Regards, Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener YES! that's a great tip - you don't have to start at _level0 in your snapshots - it's just the default ;) I'm surprised that the non-recursive searches posed a problem. Once you start with a single snapshot, you should be able to click on objects in the treeview and have it expand on demand. On 12/17/05, MyName [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great tips! John. Sorry for jumping in, Dimitrios. In my case, my desktop project got about 140 classes and many circular references. It'll take forever to take a snapshot from level0 with recursive option on. The snapshot returns nodes of the 1st tier from level0 if recursive option is turned off. But nothing will show up when clicking on a node that is too complex. So, what I had to do is to take a snapshot from a deep down path. For example in my case: _level0.gameBoard.gamePanel.operationPane.accViews.shipView. From that point, things seem started looking ok. Thanks, Doug - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Good! you're looking around and getting comfortable with doing so in Xray! Ok, some tips: 1. When browsing through global, you'll see your packages and objects. You'll see all classes - instance, static, singleton etc. You *can* see static properties/objects through global since that's where they live/are instanced. Singletons and Instanced classes can be where they're instanced. So, whatever timeline/movieclip has created the Object, that's where you can take a look through it / execute calls against it with Xray. 2. If you want to save time with browsing with the treeview, you can always use the trace/execute window to verify an objects/propertie's existance. (IE: _level0.main.myMovieClip.objX) 3. In your class, if it extends a movieclip, you could put in an xray trace (_global.tt(MyMovie, this); Then just copy and paste the path that spits out in the trace window and start checkingyour objects and props from there. Make sense? Let me know if you other questions. With xray, there's usually 3-4 ways to get an an object and mess with it ;) On 12/17/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello John, Sorry for the late reply, I wanted to run some tests before answering back
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
John, At the Class Packages array, should I add just zefxis or com.zefxis? Cause that's where my class package resides. I did what you told me about the XRay component in the timeline. The project is pretty huge (more than 150 classes) and there is a real problem with recursive ON (it actually freezes the player) I tried going pretty deep in the tree and then enable recursive, but still I'm having trouble. I only see some objects. And if I click on them, then I only see functions again. I'm looking in _global.com.zefxis. etc, right? I guess that's where I should be looking, not the _level0 tree. Sorry John, I don't have it online. Regards, Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener 1. Put Xray back on stage in the _level0 timeline. 2. Click on it and select the parameters tab. 3. in the Class Packages array, add Zefxis 4. Republish and try a snapshot again. This time, it should at least show you the true class names/paths. I actually realized yesterday that if the connector wasn't on stage, the ClassPath engine isn't initialized (more on that later). In the older versions of the AdminTool, it used to only do Recursive searches and it would recurse objects at the same time as movieclips. That proved to be a huge task that caused script timeout errors left and right. Now, I list objects/movieclips (including arrays), but only movieclip's get recursed. If you want to drill down through an object, just click on it, and drill down through the property inspector. So, republish after doing the above. If you have it online, do you mind if I try and look through it with Xray? Let me know, Thanks, John On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again, I've been doing test all this time but I still haven't found what I'm looking for. I'm not able to find the actual objects. When in _global I only see class names (functions). If I view _level0 or any movieclip child I only see movieclips (I'm not using classes that extend MovieClip) e.g. _global.com shows: blitzagency (object) darronschall (object) robertpenner (object) xfactorstudio (object) zefxis (object) applications (object) games (object) control (object) List (function) ScrollBar (function) ScrollableTextBox (function) Zefxis is my package, so everything game related should be in there. If I expand any of the other objects, like applications or games, at the end all I get is functions. So no actual object instances. _level0 shows: _level0 (movieclip) appPanels (movieclip) onAppChangeFocus (function) onLoad (function) sound_manager (movieclip) And if I expand anything in the tree all I get is movieclips and movieclip functions. What am I doing wrong? I'm still confused. I remember I used to be able to see object instances back when the application was still AdminTool. Thanks for the help Regards, Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener YES! that's a great tip - you don't have to start at _level0 in your snapshots - it's just the default ;) I'm surprised that the non-recursive searches posed a problem. Once you start with a single snapshot, you should be able to click on objects in the treeview and have it expand on demand. On 12/17/05, MyName [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great tips! John. Sorry for jumping in, Dimitrios. In my case, my desktop project got about 140 classes and many circular references. It'll take forever to take a snapshot from level0 with recursive option on. The snapshot returns nodes of the 1st tier from level0 if recursive option is turned off. But nothing will show up when clicking on a node that is too complex. So, what I had to do is to take a snapshot from a deep down path. For example in my case: _level0.gameBoard.gamePanel.operationPane.accViews.shipView. From that point, things seem started looking ok. Thanks, Doug - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Good! you're looking around and getting comfortable with doing so in Xray! Ok, some tips: 1. When browsing through global, you'll see your packages and objects. You'll see all classes - instance, static, singleton etc. You *can* see static properties/objects through global since that's where they live/are instanced. Singletons and Instanced classes can be where they're instanced. So, whatever timeline/movieclip has created the Object
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
ah, if it's under com, you're good. It'll get searched. The thing with global is that, you're only going to see the class definitions (functions/props), unless it's a static class. So, I would stick with _level0, and try to type in the path as deep as you can recal to start the snapshot, if that makes sense. Does that all make sense? On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, At the Class Packages array, should I add just zefxis or com.zefxis? Cause that's where my class package resides. I did what you told me about the XRay component in the timeline. The project is pretty huge (more than 150 classes) and there is a real problem with recursive ON (it actually freezes the player) I tried going pretty deep in the tree and then enable recursive, but still I'm having trouble. I only see some objects. And if I click on them, then I only see functions again. I'm looking in _global.com.zefxis. etc, right? I guess that's where I should be looking, not the _level0 tree. Sorry John, I don't have it online. Regards, Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener 1. Put Xray back on stage in the _level0 timeline. 2. Click on it and select the parameters tab. 3. in the Class Packages array, add Zefxis 4. Republish and try a snapshot again. This time, it should at least show you the true class names/paths. I actually realized yesterday that if the connector wasn't on stage, the ClassPath engine isn't initialized (more on that later). In the older versions of the AdminTool, it used to only do Recursive searches and it would recurse objects at the same time as movieclips. That proved to be a huge task that caused script timeout errors left and right. Now, I list objects/movieclips (including arrays), but only movieclip's get recursed. If you want to drill down through an object, just click on it, and drill down through the property inspector. So, republish after doing the above. If you have it online, do you mind if I try and look through it with Xray? Let me know, Thanks, John On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again, I've been doing test all this time but I still haven't found what I'm looking for. I'm not able to find the actual objects. When in _global I only see class names (functions). If I view _level0 or any movieclip child I only see movieclips (I'm not using classes that extend MovieClip) e.g. _global.com shows: blitzagency (object) darronschall (object) robertpenner (object) xfactorstudio (object) zefxis (object) applications (object) games (object) control (object) List (function) ScrollBar (function) ScrollableTextBox (function) Zefxis is my package, so everything game related should be in there. If I expand any of the other objects, like applications or games, at the end all I get is functions. So no actual object instances. _level0 shows: _level0 (movieclip) appPanels (movieclip) onAppChangeFocus (function) onLoad (function) sound_manager (movieclip) And if I expand anything in the tree all I get is movieclips and movieclip functions. What am I doing wrong? I'm still confused. I remember I used to be able to see object instances back when the application was still AdminTool. Thanks for the help Regards, Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener YES! that's a great tip - you don't have to start at _level0 in your snapshots - it's just the default ;) I'm surprised that the non-recursive searches posed a problem. Once you start with a single snapshot, you should be able to click on objects in the treeview and have it expand on demand. On 12/17/05, MyName [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great tips! John. Sorry for jumping in, Dimitrios. In my case, my desktop project got about 140 classes and many circular references. It'll take forever to take a snapshot from level0 with recursive option on. The snapshot returns nodes of the 1st tier from level0 if recursive option is turned off. But nothing will show up when clicking on a node that is too complex. So, what I had to do is to take a snapshot from a deep down path. For example in my case: _level0.gameBoard.gamePanel.operationPane.accViews.shipView. From that point, things seem started looking ok. Thanks, Doug - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
At the timeline of my .fla file all I have is:
import com.zefxis.games.myGame.Application;
Application.main(_root)
Structure outlines of Application class:
class com.zefxis.games.gameName.Application {
...
...
private var game:Game;
...
private function Application() {
// code
}
static function main(...) {
// code
}
private function initGame():Void {
// coce
game = new Game(.);
}
...
...
}
So, all I want is to find the game object.
I've been playing around for hours now and I can't find it, either
inside the _level0 tree or the _global.com tree.
What you said makes sense and that's what I'm trying to do.
Go deep in the tree, copy the path and then with the new snapshot
use recursion and go even deeper. But all I find is Functions.
Thank you for helping here, John.
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
ah, if it's under com, you're good. It'll get searched.
The thing with global is that, you're only going to see the class
definitions (functions/props), unless it's a static class.
So, I would stick with _level0, and try to type in the path as deep as you
can recal to start the snapshot, if that makes sense.
Does that all make sense?
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John,
At the Class Packages array,
should I add just zefxis or com.zefxis?
Cause that's where my class package resides.
I did what you told me about the XRay component in the timeline.
The project is pretty huge (more than 150 classes) and there is
a real problem with recursive ON (it actually freezes the player)
I tried going pretty deep in the tree and then enable recursive,
but still I'm having trouble. I only see some objects. And if I click
on them, then I only see functions again.
I'm looking in _global.com.zefxis. etc, right? I guess that's where
I should be looking, not the _level0 tree.
Sorry John, I don't have it online.
Regards,
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
1. Put Xray back on stage in the _level0 timeline.
2. Click on it and select the parameters tab.
3. in the Class Packages array, add Zefxis
4. Republish and try a snapshot again.
This time, it should at least show you the true class names/paths. I
actually realized yesterday that if the connector wasn't on stage, the
ClassPath engine isn't initialized (more on that later).
In the older versions of the AdminTool, it used to only do Recursive
searches and it would recurse objects at the same time as
movieclips. That
proved to be a huge task that caused script timeout errors left and right.
Now, I list objects/movieclips (including arrays), but only movieclip's
get
recursed. If you want to drill down through an object, just click on it,
and drill down through the property inspector.
So, republish after doing the above. If you have it online, do you mind
if
I try and look through it with Xray? Let me know,
Thanks,
John
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello again,
I've been doing test all this time
but I still haven't found what I'm looking for.
I'm not able to find the actual objects.
When in _global I only see class names (functions).
If I view _level0 or any movieclip child I only see movieclips
(I'm not using classes that extend MovieClip)
e.g.
_global.com shows:
blitzagency (object)
darronschall (object)
robertpenner (object)
xfactorstudio (object)
zefxis (object)
applications (object)
games (object)
control (object)
List (function)
ScrollBar (function)
ScrollableTextBox (function)
Zefxis is my package, so everything game related should be in there.
If I expand any of the other objects, like applications or games,
at the end all I get is functions. So no actual object instances.
_level0 shows:
_level0 (movieclip)
appPanels (movieclip)
onAppChangeFocus (function)
onLoad (function)
sound_manager (movieclip)
And if I expand anything in the tree all I get is movieclips
and movieclip functions.
What am I doing wrong? I'm still confused.
I remember I used to be able to see object instances
back when the application was still AdminTool.
Thanks for the help
Regards,
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
YES! that's a great tip - you don't have to start at _level0 in your
snapshots - it's just the default ;)
I'm surprised that the non
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Hi,
all principles aside (it should work etc), cant u just put _global.gameRef
= game; at the end of initGame, just so that u can test it?
using _global.gameRef as path, should give u a direct link to your game object.
greetz
Hans
At 06:16 PM 12/21/2005, Dimitrios Bendilas wrote:
At the timeline of my .fla file all I have is:
import com.zefxis.games.myGame.Application;
Application.main(_root)
Structure outlines of Application class:
class com.zefxis.games.gameName.Application {
...
...
private var game:Game;
...
private function Application() {
// code
}
static function main(...) {
// code
}
private function initGame():Void {
// coce
game = new Game(.);
}
...
...
}
So, all I want is to find the game object.
I've been playing around for hours now and I can't find it, either
inside the _level0 tree or the _global.com tree.
What you said makes sense and that's what I'm trying to do.
Go deep in the tree, copy the path and then with the new snapshot
use recursion and go even deeper. But all I find is Functions.
Thank you for helping here, John.
Dimitrios
- Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
ah, if it's under com, you're good. It'll get searched.
The thing with global is that, you're only going to see the class
definitions (functions/props), unless it's a static class.
So, I would stick with _level0, and try to type in the path as deep as you
can recal to start the snapshot, if that makes sense.
Does that all make sense?
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John,
At the Class Packages array,
should I add just zefxis or com.zefxis?
Cause that's where my class package resides.
I did what you told me about the XRay component in the timeline.
The project is pretty huge (more than 150 classes) and there is
a real problem with recursive ON (it actually freezes the player)
I tried going pretty deep in the tree and then enable recursive,
but still I'm having trouble. I only see some objects. And if I click
on them, then I only see functions again.
I'm looking in _global.com.zefxis. etc, right? I guess that's where
I should be looking, not the _level0 tree.
Sorry John, I don't have it online.
Regards,
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
1. Put Xray back on stage in the _level0 timeline.
2. Click on it and select the parameters tab.
3. in the Class Packages array, add Zefxis
4. Republish and try a snapshot again.
This time, it should at least show you the true class names/paths. I
actually realized yesterday that if the connector wasn't on stage, the
ClassPath engine isn't initialized (more on that later).
In the older versions of the AdminTool, it used to only do Recursive
searches and it would recurse objects at the same time as
movieclips. That
proved to be a huge task that caused script timeout errors left and right.
Now, I list objects/movieclips (including arrays), but only movieclip's
get
recursed. If you want to drill down through an object, just click on it,
and drill down through the property inspector.
So, republish after doing the above. If you have it online, do you mind
if
I try and look through it with Xray? Let me know,
Thanks,
John
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello again,
I've been doing test all this time
but I still haven't found what I'm looking for.
I'm not able to find the actual objects.
When in _global I only see class names (functions).
If I view _level0 or any movieclip child I only see movieclips
(I'm not using classes that extend MovieClip)
e.g.
_global.com shows:
blitzagency (object)
darronschall (object)
robertpenner (object)
xfactorstudio (object)
zefxis (object)
applications (object)
games (object)
control (object)
List (function)
ScrollBar (function)
ScrollableTextBox (function)
Zefxis is my package, so everything game related should be in there.
If I expand any of the other objects, like applications or games,
at the end all I get is functions. So no actual object instances.
_level0 shows:
_level0 (movieclip)
appPanels (movieclip)
onAppChangeFocus (function)
onLoad (function)
sound_manager (movieclip)
And if I expand anything in the tree all I get is movieclips
and movieclip functions.
What am I doing wrong? I'm still confused.
I remember I used to be able to see object instances
back when the application was still AdminTool.
Thanks for the help
Regards,
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
no problemo!
one thing you might do is make it a public var for now and see if it shows
up where you think it should. That might be one reason you can't see it ;)
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At the timeline of my .fla file all I have is:
import com.zefxis.games.myGame.Application;
Application.main(_root)
Structure outlines of Application class:
class com.zefxis.games.gameName.Application {
...
...
private var game:Game;
...
private function Application() {
// code
}
static function main(...) {
// code
}
private function initGame():Void {
// coce
game = new Game(.);
}
...
...
}
So, all I want is to find the game object.
I've been playing around for hours now and I can't find it, either
inside the _level0 tree or the _global.com tree.
What you said makes sense and that's what I'm trying to do.
Go deep in the tree, copy the path and then with the new snapshot
use recursion and go even deeper. But all I find is Functions.
Thank you for helping here, John.
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
ah, if it's under com, you're good. It'll get searched.
The thing with global is that, you're only going to see the class
definitions (functions/props), unless it's a static class.
So, I would stick with _level0, and try to type in the path as deep as you
can recal to start the snapshot, if that makes sense.
Does that all make sense?
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John,
At the Class Packages array,
should I add just zefxis or com.zefxis?
Cause that's where my class package resides.
I did what you told me about the XRay component in the timeline.
The project is pretty huge (more than 150 classes) and there is
a real problem with recursive ON (it actually freezes the player)
I tried going pretty deep in the tree and then enable recursive,
but still I'm having trouble. I only see some objects. And if I click
on them, then I only see functions again.
I'm looking in _global.com.zefxis. etc, right? I guess that's where
I should be looking, not the _level0 tree.
Sorry John, I don't have it online.
Regards,
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
1. Put Xray back on stage in the _level0 timeline.
2. Click on it and select the parameters tab.
3. in the Class Packages array, add Zefxis
4. Republish and try a snapshot again.
This time, it should at least show you the true class names/paths. I
actually realized yesterday that if the connector wasn't on stage, the
ClassPath engine isn't initialized (more on that later).
In the older versions of the AdminTool, it used to only do Recursive
searches and it would recurse objects at the same time as
movieclips. That
proved to be a huge task that caused script timeout errors left and
right.
Now, I list objects/movieclips (including arrays), but only movieclip's
get
recursed. If you want to drill down through an object, just click on
it,
and drill down through the property inspector.
So, republish after doing the above. If you have it online, do you mind
if
I try and look through it with Xray? Let me know,
Thanks,
John
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello again,
I've been doing test all this time
but I still haven't found what I'm looking for.
I'm not able to find the actual objects.
When in _global I only see class names (functions).
If I view _level0 or any movieclip child I only see movieclips
(I'm not using classes that extend MovieClip)
e.g.
_global.com shows:
blitzagency (object)
darronschall (object)
robertpenner (object)
xfactorstudio (object)
zefxis (object)
applications (object)
games (object)
control (object)
List (function)
ScrollBar (function)
ScrollableTextBox (function)
Zefxis is my package, so everything game related should be in there.
If I expand any of the other objects, like applications or games,
at the end all I get is functions. So no actual object instances.
_level0 shows:
_level0 (movieclip)
appPanels (movieclip)
onAppChangeFocus (function)
onLoad (function)
sound_manager (movieclip)
And if I expand anything in the tree all I get is movieclips
and movieclip functions.
What am I doing wrong? I'm still confused.
I remember I used to be able to see object instances
back
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Hi Dimirtrios, I've had a couple issues with intervals in the past. I'm not sure why but sometimes they would not get deleted. This would cause build up as they kept getting created. I have a enumerator class that has a process timer on it. This would trace out the time in milliseconds from the beginning of a process to the end of it. I was going to release this class but I found some problems with it. I'll make another attempt and try and post it in the next day or so. Judah Dimitrios Bendilas wrote: Anyone else has anything to suggest? Has anyone experienced memory build up with the use of Delegates or Proxy (with parameter support)? Thank you Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Cedric Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener how do you generate the tiles ? are they removed (removeMovieClip) when going outside the boundaries of the visible area ? because such memory size must have something to do with bitmaps or sounds ?? Cedric Thank you for the suggestions Hans. I'm pretty sure I've taken care of all listeners and intervals and destroy them before I delete an object. The memory when it's running slower 6-7MBs more than when running fast. (46MB - 52MB) I've tried digging in with xray before, I guess I'll do it again. Any other thoughts anyone? Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
My God Hans, that's a brilliant idea!
It worked like a charm! I can finally see!
Thanks man!
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com;
Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Hi,
all principles aside (it should work etc), cant u just put _global.gameRef
= game; at the end of initGame, just so that u can test it?
using _global.gameRef as path, should give u a direct link to your game
object.
greetz
Hans
At 06:16 PM 12/21/2005, Dimitrios Bendilas wrote:
At the timeline of my .fla file all I have is:
import com.zefxis.games.myGame.Application;
Application.main(_root)
Structure outlines of Application class:
class com.zefxis.games.gameName.Application {
...
...
private var game:Game;
...
private function Application() {
// code
}
static function main(...) {
// code
}
private function initGame():Void {
// coce
game = new Game(.);
}
...
...
}
So, all I want is to find the game object.
I've been playing around for hours now and I can't find it, either
inside the _level0 tree or the _global.com tree.
What you said makes sense and that's what I'm trying to do.
Go deep in the tree, copy the path and then with the new snapshot
use recursion and go even deeper. But all I find is Functions.
Thank you for helping here, John.
Dimitrios
- Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
ah, if it's under com, you're good. It'll get searched.
The thing with global is that, you're only going to see the class
definitions (functions/props), unless it's a static class.
So, I would stick with _level0, and try to type in the path as deep as you
can recal to start the snapshot, if that makes sense.
Does that all make sense?
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John,
At the Class Packages array,
should I add just zefxis or com.zefxis?
Cause that's where my class package resides.
I did what you told me about the XRay component in the timeline.
The project is pretty huge (more than 150 classes) and there is
a real problem with recursive ON (it actually freezes the player)
I tried going pretty deep in the tree and then enable recursive,
but still I'm having trouble. I only see some objects. And if I click
on them, then I only see functions again.
I'm looking in _global.com.zefxis. etc, right? I guess that's where
I should be looking, not the _level0 tree.
Sorry John, I don't have it online.
Regards,
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
1. Put Xray back on stage in the _level0 timeline.
2. Click on it and select the parameters tab.
3. in the Class Packages array, add Zefxis
4. Republish and try a snapshot again.
This time, it should at least show you the true class names/paths. I
actually realized yesterday that if the connector wasn't on stage, the
ClassPath engine isn't initialized (more on that later).
In the older versions of the AdminTool, it used to only do Recursive
searches and it would recurse objects at the same time as
movieclips. That
proved to be a huge task that caused script timeout errors left and
right.
Now, I list objects/movieclips (including arrays), but only movieclip's
get
recursed. If you want to drill down through an object, just click on it,
and drill down through the property inspector.
So, republish after doing the above. If you have it online, do you mind
if
I try and look through it with Xray? Let me know,
Thanks,
John
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello again,
I've been doing test all this time
but I still haven't found what I'm looking for.
I'm not able to find the actual objects.
When in _global I only see class names (functions).
If I view _level0 or any movieclip child I only see movieclips
(I'm not using classes that extend MovieClip)
e.g.
_global.com shows:
blitzagency (object)
darronschall (object)
robertpenner (object)
xfactorstudio (object)
zefxis (object)
applications (object)
games (object)
control (object)
List (function)
ScrollBar (function)
ScrollableTextBox (function)
Zefxis is my package, so everything game related should be in there.
If I expand any of the other objects, like applications or games,
at the end all I get is functions. So no actual object instances.
_level0 shows:
_level0 (movieclip)
appPanels (movieclip)
onAppChangeFocus (function)
onLoad (function
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Hi Judah, Like a profiler you mean? I think I had seen something like this for Flash but I'm not sure. That'll be great if you can post it. Thanks, Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Judah Frangipane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Hi Dimirtrios, I've had a couple issues with intervals in the past. I'm not sure why but sometimes they would not get deleted. This would cause build up as they kept getting created. I have a enumerator class that has a process timer on it. This would trace out the time in milliseconds from the beginning of a process to the end of it. I was going to release this class but I found some problems with it. I'll make another attempt and try and post it in the next day or so. Judah Dimitrios Bendilas wrote: Anyone else has anything to suggest? Has anyone experienced memory build up with the use of Delegates or Proxy (with parameter support)? Thank you Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Cedric Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener how do you generate the tiles ? are they removed (removeMovieClip) when going outside the boundaries of the visible area ? because such memory size must have something to do with bitmaps or sounds ?? Cedric Thank you for the suggestions Hans. I'm pretty sure I've taken care of all listeners and intervals and destroy them before I delete an object. The memory when it's running slower 6-7MBs more than when running fast. (46MB - 52MB) I've tried digging in with xray before, I guess I'll do it again. Any other thoughts anyone? Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
John, thanks a lot for all the help!
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
no problemo!
one thing you might do is make it a public var for now and see if it shows
up where you think it should. That might be one reason you can't see it ;)
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At the timeline of my .fla file all I have is:
import com.zefxis.games.myGame.Application;
Application.main(_root)
Structure outlines of Application class:
class com.zefxis.games.gameName.Application {
...
...
private var game:Game;
...
private function Application() {
// code
}
static function main(...) {
// code
}
private function initGame():Void {
// coce
game = new Game(.);
}
...
...
}
So, all I want is to find the game object.
I've been playing around for hours now and I can't find it, either
inside the _level0 tree or the _global.com tree.
What you said makes sense and that's what I'm trying to do.
Go deep in the tree, copy the path and then with the new snapshot
use recursion and go even deeper. But all I find is Functions.
Thank you for helping here, John.
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
ah, if it's under com, you're good. It'll get searched.
The thing with global is that, you're only going to see the class
definitions (functions/props), unless it's a static class.
So, I would stick with _level0, and try to type in the path as deep as you
can recal to start the snapshot, if that makes sense.
Does that all make sense?
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John,
At the Class Packages array,
should I add just zefxis or com.zefxis?
Cause that's where my class package resides.
I did what you told me about the XRay component in the timeline.
The project is pretty huge (more than 150 classes) and there is
a real problem with recursive ON (it actually freezes the player)
I tried going pretty deep in the tree and then enable recursive,
but still I'm having trouble. I only see some objects. And if I click
on them, then I only see functions again.
I'm looking in _global.com.zefxis. etc, right? I guess that's where
I should be looking, not the _level0 tree.
Sorry John, I don't have it online.
Regards,
Dimitrios
- Original Message -
From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
1. Put Xray back on stage in the _level0 timeline.
2. Click on it and select the parameters tab.
3. in the Class Packages array, add Zefxis
4. Republish and try a snapshot again.
This time, it should at least show you the true class names/paths. I
actually realized yesterday that if the connector wasn't on stage, the
ClassPath engine isn't initialized (more on that later).
In the older versions of the AdminTool, it used to only do Recursive
searches and it would recurse objects at the same time as
movieclips. That
proved to be a huge task that caused script timeout errors left and
right.
Now, I list objects/movieclips (including arrays), but only movieclip's
get
recursed. If you want to drill down through an object, just click on
it,
and drill down through the property inspector.
So, republish after doing the above. If you have it online, do you mind
if
I try and look through it with Xray? Let me know,
Thanks,
John
On 12/21/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello again,
I've been doing test all this time
but I still haven't found what I'm looking for.
I'm not able to find the actual objects.
When in _global I only see class names (functions).
If I view _level0 or any movieclip child I only see movieclips
(I'm not using classes that extend MovieClip)
e.g.
_global.com shows:
blitzagency (object)
darronschall (object)
robertpenner (object)
xfactorstudio (object)
zefxis (object)
applications (object)
games (object)
control (object)
List (function)
ScrollBar (function)
ScrollableTextBox (function)
Zefxis is my package, so everything game related should be in there.
If I expand any of the other objects, like applications or games,
at the end all I get is functions. So no actual object instances.
_level0 shows:
_level0 (movieclip)
appPanels (movieclip)
onAppChangeFocus (function)
onLoad (function)
sound_manager (movieclip)
And if I expand anything in the tree all I get is movieclips
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Good! you're looking around and getting comfortable with doing so in Xray! Ok, some tips: 1. When browsing through global, you'll see your packages and objects. You'll see all classes - instance, static, singleton etc. You *can* see static properties/objects through global since that's where they live/are instanced. Singletons and Instanced classes can be where they're instanced. So, whatever timeline/movieclip has created the Object, that's where you can take a look through it / execute calls against it with Xray. 2. If you want to save time with browsing with the treeview, you can always use the trace/execute window to verify an objects/propertie's existance. (IE: _level0.main.myMovieClip.objX) 3. In your class, if it extends a movieclip, you could put in an xray trace (_global.tt(MyMovie, this); Then just copy and paste the path that spits out in the trace window and start checkingyour objects and props from there. Make sense? Let me know if you other questions. With xray, there's usually 3-4 ways to get an an object and mess with it ;) On 12/17/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello John, Sorry for the late reply, I wanted to run some tests before answering back. I'm aware of the way the garbage collector works (even though I'm a little confused with object parameters stored in the inline functions inside Delegates, if they get garbage collected after all or not). Throughout my framework and the custom code for the game I pay much attention to deleting all object references. I've used xray in the past sometimes. I did this now too but I'm having some troubles. The only lines in my .fla are import Application Application.main(_root); Where in xray should I be looking for object instances? I can see all movieclips if I take a snapshot of _level0 but if I want to see the instances of the Tile objects, or the TileManager, or the Countdown objects where should I look? I tried _global.com.zefxis which is where all the packages reside but all I see is functions (Classes) and no objects. e.g. _global.com.zefxis.solarwind snapshot gives me: animation (object) Animation (function) Animations (function) EaseFunctions (function) RelativeMovement (function) Sequence (function) Any clues? Thank you! Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Hey Dimitrios, I know this might be covering something you already understand, but thought to say it outloud just in case. An object lives as long as there is reference to it in memory. So, in this scenario below obj lives on even though I've tried to delete the original reference to it (tt is Xray's trace method): var obj:Object = new Object(); obj.prop = here; var a = obj; var b = a; tt(all: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); delete obj; tt(delete obj: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); delete a; tt(delete a: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); delete b; tt(delete b: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); // Which traces out // (41) all: obj/a/b: prop = here prop = here prop = here (41) delete obj: obj/a/b: undefined :: prop = here prop = here (41) delete a: obj/a/b: undefined :: undefined :: prop = here (42) delete b: obj/a/b: undefined :: undefined :: undefined With a tile based game and all the possible references you're probably running, you might have to take a closer look at how objects are being destroyed for garbage collection. You can easily see if they're still alive using xray as well as delete them at runtime using the execute panel with xray to see if that helps your memory issues a performance. Also, try changing the visibility of your movieclips at runtime with Xray or movie items off stage one at a time at runtime to see who's hoggin' the CPU etc. Check out the video on the Property Inspector for xray for working with objects/movieclips at runtime: http://labs.blitzagency.com/wp-content/xray/videos/tutorials/indexFlash.html#Overview.propertyInspectorOverview ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
YES! that's a great tip - you don't have to start at _level0 in your snapshots - it's just the default ;) I'm surprised that the non-recursive searches posed a problem. Once you start with a single snapshot, you should be able to click on objects in the treeview and have it expand on demand. On 12/17/05, MyName [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great tips! John. Sorry for jumping in, Dimitrios. In my case, my desktop project got about 140 classes and many circular references. It'll take forever to take a snapshot from level0 with recursive option on. The snapshot returns nodes of the 1st tier from level0 if recursive option is turned off. But nothing will show up when clicking on a node that is too complex. So, what I had to do is to take a snapshot from a deep down path. For example in my case: _level0.gameBoard.gamePanel.operationPane.accViews.shipView. From that point, things seem started looking ok. Thanks, Doug - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Good! you're looking around and getting comfortable with doing so in Xray! Ok, some tips: 1. When browsing through global, you'll see your packages and objects. You'll see all classes - instance, static, singleton etc. You *can* see static properties/objects through global since that's where they live/are instanced. Singletons and Instanced classes can be where they're instanced. So, whatever timeline/movieclip has created the Object, that's where you can take a look through it / execute calls against it with Xray. 2. If you want to save time with browsing with the treeview, you can always use the trace/execute window to verify an objects/propertie's existance. (IE: _level0.main.myMovieClip.objX) 3. In your class, if it extends a movieclip, you could put in an xray trace (_global.tt(MyMovie, this); Then just copy and paste the path that spits out in the trace window and start checkingyour objects and props from there. Make sense? Let me know if you other questions. With xray, there's usually 3-4 ways to get an an object and mess with it ;) On 12/17/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello John, Sorry for the late reply, I wanted to run some tests before answering back. I'm aware of the way the garbage collector works (even though I'm a little confused with object parameters stored in the inline functions inside Delegates, if they get garbage collected after all or not). Throughout my framework and the custom code for the game I pay much attention to deleting all object references. I've used xray in the past sometimes. I did this now too but I'm having some troubles. The only lines in my .fla are import Application Application.main(_root); Where in xray should I be looking for object instances? I can see all movieclips if I take a snapshot of _level0 but if I want to see the instances of the Tile objects, or the TileManager, or the Countdown objects where should I look? I tried _global.com.zefxis which is where all the packages reside but all I see is functions (Classes) and no objects. e.g. _global.com.zefxis.solarwind snapshot gives me: animation (object) Animation (function) Animations (function) EaseFunctions (function) RelativeMovement (function) Sequence (function) Any clues? Thank you! Dimitrios - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Hey Dimitrios, I know this might be covering something you already understand, but thought to say it outloud just in case. An object lives as long as there is reference to it in memory. So, in this scenario below obj lives on even though I've tried to delete the original reference to it (tt is Xray's trace method): var obj:Object = new Object(); obj.prop = here; var a = obj; var b = a; tt(all: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); delete obj; tt(delete obj: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); delete a; tt(delete a: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); delete b; tt(delete b: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); // Which traces out // (41) all: obj/a/b: prop = here prop = here prop = here (41) delete obj: obj/a/b: undefined :: prop = here prop = here (41) delete a: obj/a/b: undefined :: undefined :: prop = here (42) delete b: obj/a/b: undefined :: undefined :: undefined With a tile based game and all the possible references you're probably running, you might have to take a closer look at how objects are being destroyed for garbage collection. You
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Have you tried opening the taskmanager to see if your memory is hogging? The game im working on slows down as well, but this is simply becoz im printin debug info to a textfield (will be replaced with xray ;)) and this takes longer to update as the contents get bigger. A game should not slow down, no matter the approach u take. As a side note is it a commercial framework/opensource etc? greetz Hans At 11:03 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote: Hello everyone, I have built a big, complex framework for creating 2D games in Flash. I have developed 2 large projects based on it and I'm experiencing a slow down as the game progresses. A while after you begin playing, things start to slow down and in 20-30 minutes the game is no more fun to play as it becomes much slower. They are both tile-based puzzle games. I'm using Flash 8 and FP8. The framework is written in AS2 and it uses a callback system for communication between classes (e.g. tileManager.onEvent = Delegate.create(this, )) The use of Delegates is very common throughout the framework. I'm using the Delegate version that supports parameters too, so I often pass complete instances of complex objects as parameters. I have tried to use .destroy() on everything I can, so that objects get deleted from memory. Do you think the framework could benefit from an eventListener-system approach instead of callbacks? Will I be able to make the slow-down dissapear or decrease? Any thoughts would be very welcome. Thanks! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Hello Hans, I've been testing the game with the taskmanager open for several hours. I'm not using a textfield to debug anything at the moment. The memory is going up, but not consistently. The game has many backgrounds and tilesets (complete themes) but I use only one of each theoughout my tests, to keep the parameters minimum. Sometimes the memory adds up 2MB, for no apparent reason when a level is finished and the game moves to the next level. And other times (which is more often) the memory does not increase from level to level. Also, during a level sometimes there are a few KBs added. I'm thinking that maybe objects are not garbage-collected because of the Delegates. I think this has been discussed before, but I can't recall a definate answer if this is a problem and what is a possible solution. The framework is not open source and it's not a commercial product (at least not yet). If you like, you can see a game I built with it at http://www.total-eclipse.gr/academy-of-magic-word-spells/ Dimitrios Bendilas - Original Message - From: Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Have you tried opening the taskmanager to see if your memory is hogging? The game im working on slows down as well, but this is simply becoz im printin debug info to a textfield (will be replaced with xray ;)) and this takes longer to update as the contents get bigger. A game should not slow down, no matter the approach u take. As a side note is it a commercial framework/opensource etc? greetz Hans At 11:03 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote: Hello everyone, I have built a big, complex framework for creating 2D games in Flash. I have developed 2 large projects based on it and I'm experiencing a slow down as the game progresses. A while after you begin playing, things start to slow down and in 20-30 minutes the game is no more fun to play as it becomes much slower. They are both tile-based puzzle games. I'm using Flash 8 and FP8. The framework is written in AS2 and it uses a callback system for communication between classes (e.g. tileManager.onEvent = Delegate.create(this, )) The use of Delegates is very common throughout the framework. I'm using the Delegate version that supports parameters too, so I often pass complete instances of complex objects as parameters. I have tried to use .destroy() on everything I can, so that objects get deleted from memory. Do you think the framework could benefit from an eventListener-system approach instead of callbacks? Will I be able to make the slow-down dissapear or decrease? Any thoughts would be very welcome. Thanks! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Hi, using the delegates itself should not lead to problems i think, at least i did some tests with this and garbage collection, and i didnt need to do anything special to delete delegates or something. One instance where problems might occur is for example fwhere you use Key.addListener Mouse.addListener etc and you dont remove these listeners properly. If the memory usage when the game is running slower doesnt really differ from when its running faster, you might wanna delve into your program deeper with a tool like xray or something. Another option would be to disable parts of your engine ofcourse to try and narrow it down. tough one, i'll take a look at your engine when i have the time, thanks for the link! greetz Hans At 11:39 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote: Hello Hans, I've been testing the game with the taskmanager open for several hours. I'm not using a textfield to debug anything at the moment. The memory is going up, but not consistently. The game has many backgrounds and tilesets (complete themes) but I use only one of each theoughout my tests, to keep the parameters minimum. Sometimes the memory adds up 2MB, for no apparent reason when a level is finished and the game moves to the next level. And other times (which is more often) the memory does not increase from level to level. Also, during a level sometimes there are a few KBs added. I'm thinking that maybe objects are not garbage-collected because of the Delegates. I think this has been discussed before, but I can't recall a definate answer if this is a problem and what is a possible solution. The framework is not open source and it's not a commercial product (at least not yet). If you like, you can see a game I built with it at http://www.total-eclipse.gr/academy-of-magic-word-spells/ Dimitrios Bendilas - Original Message - From: Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Have you tried opening the taskmanager to see if your memory is hogging? The game im working on slows down as well, but this is simply becoz im printin debug info to a textfield (will be replaced with xray ;)) and this takes longer to update as the contents get bigger. A game should not slow down, no matter the approach u take. As a side note is it a commercial framework/opensource etc? greetz Hans At 11:03 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote: Hello everyone, I have built a big, complex framework for creating 2D games in Flash. I have developed 2 large projects based on it and I'm experiencing a slow down as the game progresses. A while after you begin playing, things start to slow down and in 20-30 minutes the game is no more fun to play as it becomes much slower. They are both tile-based puzzle games. I'm using Flash 8 and FP8. The framework is written in AS2 and it uses a callback system for communication between classes (e.g. tileManager.onEvent = Delegate.create(this, )) The use of Delegates is very common throughout the framework. I'm using the Delegate version that supports parameters too, so I often pass complete instances of complex objects as parameters. I have tried to use .destroy() on everything I can, so that objects get deleted from memory. Do you think the framework could benefit from an eventListener-system approach instead of callbacks? Will I be able to make the slow-down dissapear or decrease? Any thoughts would be very welcome. Thanks! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Thank you for the suggestions Hans. I'm pretty sure I've taken care of all listeners and intervals and destroy them before I delete an object. The memory when it's running slower 6-7MBs more than when running fast. (46MB - 52MB) I've tried digging in with xray before, I guess I'll do it again. Any other thoughts anyone? Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Hi, using the delegates itself should not lead to problems i think, at least i did some tests with this and garbage collection, and i didnt need to do anything special to delete delegates or something. One instance where problems might occur is for example fwhere you use Key.addListener Mouse.addListener etc and you dont remove these listeners properly. If the memory usage when the game is running slower doesnt really differ from when its running faster, you might wanna delve into your program deeper with a tool like xray or something. Another option would be to disable parts of your engine ofcourse to try and narrow it down. tough one, i'll take a look at your engine when i have the time, thanks for the link! greetz Hans At 11:39 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote: Hello Hans, I've been testing the game with the taskmanager open for several hours. I'm not using a textfield to debug anything at the moment. The memory is going up, but not consistently. The game has many backgrounds and tilesets (complete themes) but I use only one of each theoughout my tests, to keep the parameters minimum. Sometimes the memory adds up 2MB, for no apparent reason when a level is finished and the game moves to the next level. And other times (which is more often) the memory does not increase from level to level. Also, during a level sometimes there are a few KBs added. I'm thinking that maybe objects are not garbage-collected because of the Delegates. I think this has been discussed before, but I can't recall a definate answer if this is a problem and what is a possible solution. The framework is not open source and it's not a commercial product (at least not yet). If you like, you can see a game I built with it at http://www.total-eclipse.gr/academy-of-magic-word-spells/ Dimitrios Bendilas - Original Message - From: Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Have you tried opening the taskmanager to see if your memory is hogging? The game im working on slows down as well, but this is simply becoz im printin debug info to a textfield (will be replaced with xray ;)) and this takes longer to update as the contents get bigger. A game should not slow down, no matter the approach u take. As a side note is it a commercial framework/opensource etc? greetz Hans At 11:03 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote: Hello everyone, I have built a big, complex framework for creating 2D games in Flash. I have developed 2 large projects based on it and I'm experiencing a slow down as the game progresses. A while after you begin playing, things start to slow down and in 20-30 minutes the game is no more fun to play as it becomes much slower. They are both tile-based puzzle games. I'm using Flash 8 and FP8. The framework is written in AS2 and it uses a callback system for communication between classes (e.g. tileManager.onEvent = Delegate.create(this, )) The use of Delegates is very common throughout the framework. I'm using the Delegate version that supports parameters too, so I often pass complete instances of complex objects as parameters. I have tried to use .destroy() on everything I can, so that objects get deleted from memory. Do you think the framework could benefit from an eventListener-system approach instead of callbacks? Will I be able to make the slow-down dissapear or decrease? Any thoughts would be very welcome. Thanks! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Hi Cedric, Thanks for answering. This is a puzzle game, so tiles do not dissapear outside the stage. They are removed with removeMovieClip when necessary. There are 20-35 tiles on the stage at the same time. Each tile is a movieclip with 10 different frames and each frame has another movieclip inside, consisting of another 9-10 frames. And then again each of the latter frames has a movieclip with an animation. At any given time a tile is static and sometimes the (last mentioned) animation plays. Even without the animation though, the game used to slow down. Everything in a tile is a vector graphic and the mother tile movieclip has cacheAsBitmap = true. I have disabled (I don't load them at all) all sounds intentionally and the memory still jumps up. Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Cedric Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener how do you generate the tiles ? are they removed (removeMovieClip) when going outside the boundaries of the visible area ? because such memory size must have something to do with bitmaps or sounds ?? Cedric Thank you for the suggestions Hans. I'm pretty sure I've taken care of all listeners and intervals and destroy them before I delete an object. The memory when it's running slower 6-7MBs more than when running fast. (46MB - 52MB) I've tried digging in with xray before, I guess I'll do it again. Any other thoughts anyone? Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Hi, using the delegates itself should not lead to problems i think, at least i did some tests with this and garbage collection, and i didnt need to do anything special to delete delegates or something. One instance where problems might occur is for example fwhere you use Key.addListener Mouse.addListener etc and you dont remove these listeners properly. If the memory usage when the game is running slower doesnt really differ from when its running faster, you might wanna delve into your program deeper with a tool like xray or something. Another option would be to disable parts of your engine ofcourse to try and narrow it down. tough one, i'll take a look at your engine when i have the time, thanks for the link! greetz Hans At 11:39 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote: Hello Hans, I've been testing the game with the taskmanager open for several hours. I'm not using a textfield to debug anything at the moment. The memory is going up, but not consistently. The game has many backgrounds and tilesets (complete themes) but I use only one of each theoughout my tests, to keep the parameters minimum. Sometimes the memory adds up 2MB, for no apparent reason when a level is finished and the game moves to the next level. And other times (which is more often) the memory does not increase from level to level. Also, during a level sometimes there are a few KBs added. I'm thinking that maybe objects are not garbage-collected because of the Delegates. I think this has been discussed before, but I can't recall a definate answer if this is a problem and what is a possible solution. The framework is not open source and it's not a commercial product (at least not yet). If you like, you can see a game I built with it at http://www.total-eclipse.gr/academy-of-magic-word-spells/ Dimitrios Bendilas - Original Message - From: Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Have you tried opening the taskmanager to see if your memory is hogging? The game im working on slows down as well, but this is simply becoz im printin debug info to a textfield (will be replaced with xray ;)) and this takes longer to update as the contents get bigger. A game should not slow down, no matter the approach u take. As a side note is it a commercial framework/opensource etc? greetz Hans At 11:03 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote: Hello everyone, I have built a big, complex framework for creating 2D games in Flash. I have developed 2 large projects based on it and I'm experiencing a slow down as the game progresses. A while after you begin playing, things start to slow down and in 20-30 minutes the game is no more fun to play as it becomes much slower. They are both tile-based puzzle games. I'm using Flash 8 and FP8. The framework is written in AS2 and it uses a callback system for communication between classes (e.g. tileManager.onEvent = Delegate.create(this, )) The use of Delegates is very common throughout the framework. I'm using the Delegate version that supports parameters
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Anyone else has anything to suggest? Has anyone experienced memory build up with the use of Delegates or Proxy (with parameter support)? Thank you Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Cedric Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener how do you generate the tiles ? are they removed (removeMovieClip) when going outside the boundaries of the visible area ? because such memory size must have something to do with bitmaps or sounds ?? Cedric Thank you for the suggestions Hans. I'm pretty sure I've taken care of all listeners and intervals and destroy them before I delete an object. The memory when it's running slower 6-7MBs more than when running fast. (46MB - 52MB) I've tried digging in with xray before, I guess I'll do it again. Any other thoughts anyone? Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener
Hey Dimitrios, I know this might be covering something you already understand, but thought to say it outloud just in case. An object lives as long as there is reference to it in memory. So, in this scenario below obj lives on even though I've tried to delete the original reference to it (tt is Xray's trace method): var obj:Object = new Object(); obj.prop = here; var a = obj; var b = a; tt(all: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); delete obj; tt(delete obj: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); delete a; tt(delete a: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); delete b; tt(delete b: obj/a/b, obj, a, b); // Which traces out // (41) all: obj/a/b: prop = here prop = here prop = here (41) delete obj: obj/a/b: undefined :: prop = here prop = here (41) delete a: obj/a/b: undefined :: undefined :: prop = here (42) delete b: obj/a/b: undefined :: undefined :: undefined With a tile based game and all the possible references you're probably running, you might have to take a closer look at how objects are being destroyed for garbage collection. You can easily see if they're still alive using xray as well as delete them at runtime using the execute panel with xray to see if that helps your memory issues a performance. Also, try changing the visibility of your movieclips at runtime with Xray or movie items off stage one at a time at runtime to see who's hoggin' the CPU etc. Check out the video on the Property Inspector for xray for working with objects/movieclips at runtime: http://labs.blitzagency.com/wp-content/xray/videos/tutorials/indexFlash.html#Overview.propertyInspectorOverview On 12/15/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Cedric, Thanks for answering. This is a puzzle game, so tiles do not dissapear outside the stage. They are removed with removeMovieClip when necessary. There are 20-35 tiles on the stage at the same time. Each tile is a movieclip with 10 different frames and each frame has another movieclip inside, consisting of another 9-10 frames. And then again each of the latter frames has a movieclip with an animation. At any given time a tile is static and sometimes the (last mentioned) animation plays. Even without the animation though, the game used to slow down. Everything in a tile is a vector graphic and the mother tile movieclip has cacheAsBitmap = true. I have disabled (I don't load them at all) all sounds intentionally and the memory still jumps up. Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Cedric Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener how do you generate the tiles ? are they removed (removeMovieClip) when going outside the boundaries of the visible area ? because such memory size must have something to do with bitmaps or sounds ?? Cedric Thank you for the suggestions Hans. I'm pretty sure I've taken care of all listeners and intervals and destroy them before I delete an object. The memory when it's running slower 6-7MBs more than when running fast. (46MB - 52MB) I've tried digging in with xray before, I guess I'll do it again. Any other thoughts anyone? Dimitrios - Original Message - From: Hans Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [FlashCoders] game slowing down - eventListener Hi, using the delegates itself should not lead to problems i think, at least i did some tests with this and garbage collection, and i didnt need to do anything special to delete delegates or something. One instance where problems might occur is for example fwhere you use Key.addListener Mouse.addListener etc and you dont remove these listeners properly. If the memory usage when the game is running slower doesnt really differ from when its running faster, you might wanna delve into your program deeper with a tool like xray or something. Another option would be to disable parts of your engine ofcourse to try and narrow it down. tough one, i'll take a look at your engine when i have the time, thanks for the link! greetz Hans At 11:39 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote: Hello Hans, I've been testing the game with the taskmanager open for several hours. I'm not using a textfield to debug anything at the moment. The memory is going up, but not consistently. The game has many backgrounds and tilesets (complete themes) but I use only one of each theoughout my tests, to keep the parameters minimum. Sometimes the memory adds up 2MB, for no apparent reason when a level is finished and the game moves to the next level. And other times (which is more often) the memory does not increase from level to level. Also, during a level sometimes there are a few KBs
