[Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Hi all, I just wanted to register my strong disapproval of an email that Omar Fouad ([EMAIL PROTECTED] on this list) sent to me this morning. I had asked on this list for recommendations for a simple book on AS2.0 to give to a designer (and have said, elsewhere, that I have Moock's Essential Actionscript 2.0 and think it's too complex for the person in question). Unsolicited, Omar sent me the complete text of Colin Moock's book as a .chm file. I'm unhappy with piracy at the best of times. In this instance I find it even worse, as the book is written by someone I respect. Needless to say, I've let Colin know. A lot of time, effort and creativity goes into creating a reference book to make your life easier. The least you can do it pay for it. Sorry for the noise! Ian ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
/* in case the mail hasnt been delivered*/ this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling it. I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give you this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. Before acting this way, know your right and respect your older bro. Cheers On 3/1/07, Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to register my strong disapproval of an email that Omar Fouad ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] on this list) sent to me this morning. I had asked on this list for recommendations for a simple book on AS2.0 to give to a designer (and have said, elsewhere, that I have Moock's Essential Actionscript 2.0 and think it's too complex for the person in question). Unsolicited, Omar sent me the complete text of Colin Moock's book as a .chm file. I'm unhappy with piracy at the best of times. In this instance I find it even worse, as the book is written by someone I respect. Needless to say, I've let Colin know. A lot of time, effort and creativity goes into creating a reference book to make your life easier. The least you can do it pay for it. Sorry for the noise! Ian ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to endure... whatever comes. -- Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to endure... whatever comes. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling it. I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give you this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. Before acting this way, know your right and respect your older bro. Cheers On 3/1/07, Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to register my strong disapproval of an email that Omar Fouad ([EMAIL PROTECTED] on this list) sent to me this morning. I had asked on this list for recommendations for a simple book on AS2.0 to give to a designer (and have said, elsewhere, that I have Moock's Essential Actionscript 2.0 and think it's too complex for the person in question). Unsolicited, Omar sent me the complete text of Colin Moock's book as a .chm file. I'm unhappy with piracy at the best of times. In this instance I find it even worse, as the book is written by someone I respect. Needless to say, I've let Colin know. A lot of time, effort and creativity goes into creating a reference book to make your life easier. The least you can do it pay for it. Sorry for the noise! Ian ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to endure... whatever comes. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
>>this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am >>not selling it. Oi! Ye don't have to sell yer 'wares to be a pirate! All ye have to do is steal it. Lawyers be see'n ye walk the plank. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Technology & Operations, Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia Team ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Whether you sell it or not, you are still passing round a ripped off copy from someone who earns his living from writing books and has probably contributed a lot more to this community than yourself. Just because you are older does not mean we have to respect you. Not being a [EMAIL PROTECTED] may earn you more. Omar Fouad wrote: this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling it. I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give you this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. Before acting this way, know your right and respect your older bro. Cheers On 3/1/07, Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to register my strong disapproval of an email that Omar Fouad ([EMAIL PROTECTED] on this list) sent to me this morning. I had asked on this list for recommendations for a simple book on AS2.0 to give to a designer (and have said, elsewhere, that I have Moock's Essential Actionscript 2.0 and think it's too complex for the person in question). Unsolicited, Omar sent me the complete text of Colin Moock's book as a .chm file. I'm unhappy with piracy at the best of times. In this instance I find it even worse, as the book is written by someone I respect. Needless to say, I've let Colin know. A lot of time, effort and creativity goes into creating a reference book to make your life easier. The least you can do it pay for it. Sorry for the noise! Ian ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Naive little man... you don't have to sell it for it to be pirated. Piracy: The unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book, recording, television program, patented invention, trademarked product, etc. I wouldn't think you emailed your original. -Original Message- From: Omar Fouad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:39 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling it. I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give you this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. Before acting this way, know your right and respect your older bro. Cheers On 3/1/07, Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > I just wanted to register my strong disapproval of an email that > Omar Fouad ([EMAIL PROTECTED] on this list) sent to me this > morning. > > I had asked on this list for recommendations for a simple book on > AS2.0 to give to a designer (and have said, elsewhere, that I have > Moock's Essential Actionscript 2.0 and think it's too complex for the > person in question). > > Unsolicited, Omar sent me the complete text of Colin Moock's book as > a .chm file. > > I'm unhappy with piracy at the best of times. In this instance I > find it even worse, as the book is written by someone I respect. > > Needless to say, I've let Colin know. > > A lot of time, effort and creativity goes into creating a reference > book to make your life easier. The least you can do it pay for it. > > Sorry for the noise! > Ian > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > -- Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to endure... whatever comes. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
*falls about laughing* Why, thanks! That makes me feel considerably younger. Sorry for the noise, everyone else! Ian On 3/1/07, Omar Fouad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling it. I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give you this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. Before acting this way, know your right and respect your older bro. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Uhhh. Never pirate books. Software, movies, cd's okay, but never books. And never give candy to strangers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rost, Andrew Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:03 PM To: 'flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books Naive little man... you don't have to sell it for it to be pirated. Piracy: The unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book, recording, television program, patented invention, trademarked product, etc. I wouldn't think you emailed your original. -Original Message- From: Omar Fouad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:39 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling it. I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give you this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. Before acting this way, know your right and respect your older bro. Cheers On 3/1/07, Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > I just wanted to register my strong disapproval of an email that > Omar Fouad ([EMAIL PROTECTED] on this list) sent to me this > morning. > > I had asked on this list for recommendations for a simple book on > AS2.0 to give to a designer (and have said, elsewhere, that I have > Moock's Essential Actionscript 2.0 and think it's too complex for the > person in question). > > Unsolicited, Omar sent me the complete text of Colin Moock's book as a > .chm file. > > I'm unhappy with piracy at the best of times. In this instance I find > it even worse, as the book is written by someone I respect. > > Needless to say, I've let Colin know. > > A lot of time, effort and creativity goes into creating a reference > book to make your life easier. The least you can do it pay for it. > > Sorry for the noise! > Ian > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com > -- Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to endure... whatever comes. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Omar Fouad said: "this is not called piracy my little brave boy...know your right and respect your older bro." Give us a break, Omar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_piracy The copyright infringement of software refers to several practices when done without the permission of the copyright holder: Creating a copy and giving it to someone else. This constitutes copyright infringement in most jurisdictions. http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-02-05-potter-no-ebook_x.htm Author J.K. Rowling has not allowed the first six Potter stories to be released as e-books and has no plans to change that for the seventh and final work. ... Rowling has cited ... concern[s] about online piracy. Lots more can be found here. http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=ebook+piracy&btnG=Google+ Search Maybe you should know you're wrong and stop trying to justify your illegal activity. At the same time, I don't agree with Ian the tattle-tale posting about it on Flashcoders. He would have done quite well in the McCarthy era. Cheers ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Sorry... couldn't resist: On 3/1/07, Omar Fouad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling it. I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give you this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. IOW, your give your girlfriend stolen jewelry that someone else just happened to take for you? What I find even more humourous than this is your signature paraphrasing 1 Corinthians. Here's one from Exodus: Thou shalt not steal! jord -- Jordan L. Chilcott, President Interactivity Unlimited Guelph, Ontario - Tel: (519) 837-1879 eFax: (519) 837-8610 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interactivityunlimited.com iChat/AIM: j1chilcott Author: "Building Web Sites with Macromedia Studio MX" Author: "Building Dynamic Web Sites with Macromedia Studio MX" Author: "Flash Professional 8: Training From the Source" Author: "Foundation Flash 8 Video" ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
It's even scary how fast they pirated ebooks are available after publication. :/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
A bit late for valentines day. It was an interesting read while it lasted though. > *falls about laughing* > > Why, thanks! That makes me feel considerably younger. > > Sorry for the noise, everyone else! > > Ian > > On 3/1/07, Omar Fouad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling >> it. >> I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give >> you >> this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. >> >> Before acting this way, know your right and respect your older bro. > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Are you so retarded that you would repost the same ignorant denial to the list? Omar, you broke the law and that's that. You're only making yourself look dumber by denying it. Drop it move on before you make yourself look any worse. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Ok Ok... Fine! I've sent a "copy of the book". So ppl please look into your computer... see how many pdf books, Mp3's, movies you have got on your hard disk... isn't this called "pirating" ??? And please don't try to tell me u got no mp3's, you don't use any p2p program, you don't download movies from the net without paying a penny All i just wanted to do is helping nothing more, nothing else. And by the way i Apologize to the Author, Mr. Moock and to all the list, but please before you criticise ppl, criticise yourself, as we are not angels... Best Regards On 3/2/07, Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: *falls about laughing* Why, thanks! That makes me feel considerably younger. Sorry for the noise, everyone else! Ian On 3/1/07, Omar Fouad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling it. > I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give you > this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. > > Before acting this way, know your right and respect your older bro. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to endure... whatever comes. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
>>So ppl please look into your computer... see how many pdf >>books, Mp3's, movies you have got on your hard disk... isn't >>this called "pirating" ??? >>all the list, but please before you criticise ppl, criticise >>yourself, as we are not angels... I'm no angel, but I also I don't have any priated MP3s, books, movies, software, etc. on my machine. Since I work in software/multimedia, I clearly see how wrong it is to give away things that people work hard to produce and then sell to support themselves. You can justify it all you like, but it doesn't make it right or legal. Jason Merrill ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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At the same time, I don't agree with Ian the tattle-tale posting about it on Flashcoders. He would have done quite well in the McCarthy era. You're quite correct, Steven - I would have been in a completely different country, and so done _extremely_ well. An email to Omar on his own would achieve nothing. An email here - and perhaps he'll think twice before he does it again. You never know. Ian ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Hey jord, would you recommend me a good book for AS3? Regards Gustavo Duenas On Mar 1, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Jordan L. Chilcott - Interactivity Unlimited wrote: Sorry... couldn't resist: On 3/1/07, Omar Fouad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling it. I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give you this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. IOW, your give your girlfriend stolen jewelry that someone else just happened to take for you? What I find even more humourous than this is your signature paraphrasing 1 Corinthians. Here's one from Exodus: Thou shalt not steal! jord -- Jordan L. Chilcott, President Interactivity Unlimited Guelph, Ontario - Tel: (519) 837-1879 eFax: (519) 837-8610 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interactivityunlimited.com iChat/AIM: j1chilcott Author: "Building Web Sites with Macromedia Studio MX" Author: "Building Dynamic Web Sites with Macromedia Studio MX" Author: "Flash Professional 8: Training From the Source" Author: "Foundation Flash 8 Video" ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com Gustavo Duenas Creative Director LEFT AND RIGHT SOLUTIONS LLC 1225 w. Beaver St. suite 119 Jacksonville, FL 32204 904 . 2650330 www.leftandrightsolutions.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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This is ridiculous. Please stop this foolishness on the list. If you ask me, this Ian guy is as stupid as the Omar guy, because this list is something of a different nature, if someone sent u an email of something you dont like, delete it. Stop your whining, and stop making a big deal about small things, and stop trying to be the "good guy" and "bad guy" everyone has done good things and bad things in their lives...this list is not a list about morality or piracy. Keep the subject matter, or take it private. there are many subscribed individuals who do not care to have their inboxes inundated with this kind of crap. On 3/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A bit late for valentines day. It was an interesting read while it lasted though. > *falls about laughing* > > Why, thanks! That makes me feel considerably younger. > > Sorry for the noise, everyone else! > > Ian > > On 3/1/07, Omar Fouad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling >> it. >> I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give >> you >> this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. >> >> Before acting this way, know your right and respect your older bro. > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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On 3/2/07, Weyert de Boer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's even scary how fast they pirated ebooks are available after publication. :/ Maybe its because the whole ebook as a product idea is flawed? In 2003 I published a (printed) book on security. It was quite popular and people kept asking me to release it as an ebook. I didn't do that. Instead I sent anyone who asked for it an unrestricted PDF as long as they could prove they bought a copy of the printed edition. The result? The book keeps on selling quite well 4 years after it was published and I managed to build pretty close relationship with my readers. I could safely say I have fans, which is a new experience for me. As for pirates, I have as much respect as they have for me. None. But I wouldn't put them in jail. Guys like them should be given rookie tech writers' contracts: 800 pages written in 3 months, while they keep their day job, for a 5,000usd advance, plus the publisher get the right of first refusal on everything they write in the future and any contract they sign, and a tech reviewer who has no clue what the book is about, but will openly question the acquisition editor's and the author's intelligence, and return whole chapters marked in red. With no right to opt out. -- Jacek Artymiak devGuide.net :: RadioBSD.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
- Original Message - From: "Omar Fouad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books > Ok Ok... Fine! I've sent a "copy of the book". > So ppl please look into your computer... see how many pdf books, Mp3's, > movies you have got on your hard disk... isn't this called "pirating" ??? > And please don't try to tell me u got no mp3's, you don't use any p2p > program, you don't download movies from the net without paying a penny > > All i just wanted to do is helping nothing more, nothing else. > > And by the way i Apologize to the Author, Mr. Moock and to all the list, but > please before you criticise ppl, criticise yourself, as we are not angels... Err.. I don't have any P2P programs, downloaded movies or MP3s that I haven't paid for. Don't judge others by your own low standards. > Best Regards > > > On 3/2/07, Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > *falls about laughing* > > > > Why, thanks! That makes me feel considerably younger. > > > > Sorry for the noise, everyone else! > > > > Ian > > > > On 3/1/07, Omar Fouad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > this is not called piracy my little brave boy... as in i am not selling > > it. > > > I was just considering you my lil brother, and than i decided to give > > you > > > this book as any one gives something to his girlfriend.. > > > > > > Before acting this way, know your right and respect your older bro. > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > -- > Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... > > Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful > nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is > not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights > in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to > endure... whatever comes. > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Chris Saila schrieb: This is ridiculous. you could at least have shortend the quote. and writing tofu is bad too. sincerely, your mail police officer micha (and writing.toLowercase() is bad too, but isn't it the little failing that makes us all human ?) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re[2]: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Hello Andrew, RA> Piracy: The unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted RA> book, [...] - hmmm... I understand "reproduction" rule, but "use" I don't understand. Is libraries closed in your country? Or you need special license to give your book to girlfriend? Mistake of Omar is "reproduction" in his actions. But for example if he have e-book on CD and gives this CD to anybody... is he pirate too? -- Ivan Dembicki __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.artlebedev.ru | http://www.sharedfonts.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re[2]: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
Can we all agree to disagree and keep this discussion off list please. It was a humorous read but off topic now. On 3/2/07, Iv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Andrew, RA> Piracy: The unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted RA> book, [...] - hmmm... I understand "reproduction" rule, but "use" I don't understand. Is libraries closed in your country? Or you need special license to give your book to girlfriend? Mistake of Omar is "reproduction" in his actions. But for example if he have e-book on CD and gives this CD to anybody... is he pirate too? -- Ivan Dembicki __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.artlebedev.ru | http://www.sharedfonts.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re[2]: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books
well ok... i am sorry folks it wont happen again i promise actually someone asked me to gibi him the book yesterday but i said no sorry ppl, sorry ivan. I hope no one is upset anymore... regards... On 3/2/07, Iv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Andrew, RA> Piracy: The unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted RA> book, [...] - hmmm... I understand "reproduction" rule, but "use" I don't understand. Is libraries closed in your country? Or you need special license to give your book to girlfriend? Mistake of Omar is "reproduction" in his actions. But for example if he have e-book on CD and gives this CD to anybody... is he pirate too? -- Ivan Dembicki __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.artlebedev.ru | http://www.sharedfonts.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Omar Fouad - Digital Emotions... Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful nor conceited It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offense and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins...but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope... and to endure... whatever comes. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Pirated Books -finishing this thread
Hey folks let´s move on... finishing this thread and caring about the "FLASHCODERS MAIN FOCUS" ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
