Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
tabbed windows on the mac...that's worth the price of admission for me. Hell any improvement on the mac version was worth it. On 28 Oct 2005 15:07:51 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I upgraded as they increased the stage size in the IDE, for example when > designing for 1000 x 600 with the document set to that size in the flash > mx2004 ide I could not scroll far enough to the right when designing large > movie clips, I'd have to to move all the symbols from 0,0 to something like > -500 (x) to see all the symbols and then remember to move them back. In > flash 8 the stage is about double the size of the document setting so you > can see everything, thats was reason enough for me as I build lots of forms > for my current client :) > > Grant > > - Original Message - > From: JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > Sent: 10/28/05 10:57 AM > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? > > > Keep in mind too, you can still use Flash 8 and output Flash 7/AS2 > content. > > The IDE is a big improvement in speed & resource usage as well as fixing > a > > few bugs in Flash MX 2004. > > > > I've been getting myself into trouble designing in Flash 8 with my > clients > > expecting me to transfer the design to Flex 1.5 which is Flash 7 only... > but > > it DOES render out PNG sequences so all is not lost. > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Merrill, Jason" > > To: "Flashcoders mailing list" > > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 10:44 AM > > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? > > > > > > I think you should base your decision on what the new improvements to > > Flash actually are, and see if you would make use of them with your > > clients... and if they are things that are going to be supported by the > > target player your market will have. > > > > At the same time, even still, its important to stay on top of technology > > as always. That's usually a good investment even if you aren't going to > > be able to use many of the new features right away, you might see some > > improved efficiencies. > > > > For me, I have upgraded Flash every time it has been upgraded, but Adobe > > Illustrator, I am still using version 9 and don't see a need to upgrade > > it currently since I'm just not going to use the new features, or they > > aren't going to benefit me enough to justify the purchase. > > > > Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | > > icfconsulting.com<http://icfconsulting.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory > > >>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:14 PM > > >>To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > >>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? > > >> > > >>Hello flashcoders, > > >> > > >> I think it's no question that one need to upgrade. And I'll do it in > > >> 1-2 month ;-). > > >> > > >> Question was if (and when) it's necessary to update existing > > >> applications (e.g. "migrate") to use new features of Flash 8. > > >> > > >>-Original Message- > > >>frcfc> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:12:10 -0500 > > >>frcfc> From: Judah Frangipane > > >>frcfc> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? > > >>frcfc> To: Flashcoders mailing list > > > > >>frcfc> Message-ID: > > >>frcfc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > >> > > >>frcfc> I'd upgrade to Flash 8 even though you are doing Flash 6 and 7. > > It has a > > >>frcfc> lot of little things that make development quicker. So even > > though you > > >>frcfc> are exporting to Flash 7 you can still take advantage of the > > new text > > >>frcfc> resizing handles (something I use everyday) and other neat > > little > > >>frcfc> changes. Or wait until 8.2 update (if one comes out). > > >> > > >>frcfc> Best, > > >>frcfc> Judah > > >> > > >> > > >>-- > > >>Best regards, > > >> Gregory mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>===
Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
I upgraded as they increased the stage size in the IDE, for example when designing for 1000 x 600 with the document set to that size in the flash mx2004 ide I could not scroll far enough to the right when designing large movie clips, I'd have to to move all the symbols from 0,0 to something like -500 (x) to see all the symbols and then remember to move them back. In flash 8 the stage is about double the size of the document setting so you can see everything, thats was reason enough for me as I build lots of forms for my current client :) Grant - Original Message - From: JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: 10/28/05 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? > Keep in mind too, you can still use Flash 8 and output Flash 7/AS2 content. > The IDE is a big improvement in speed & resource usage as well as fixing a > few bugs in Flash MX 2004. > > I've been getting myself into trouble designing in Flash 8 with my clients > expecting me to transfer the design to Flex 1.5 which is Flash 7 only... but > it DOES render out PNG sequences so all is not lost. > > - Original Message - > From: "Merrill, Jason" > To: "Flashcoders mailing list" > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 10:44 AM > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? > > > I think you should base your decision on what the new improvements to > Flash actually are, and see if you would make use of them with your > clients... and if they are things that are going to be supported by the > target player your market will have. > > At the same time, even still, its important to stay on top of technology > as always. That's usually a good investment even if you aren't going to > be able to use many of the new features right away, you might see some > improved efficiencies. > > For me, I have upgraded Flash every time it has been upgraded, but Adobe > Illustrator, I am still using version 9 and don't see a need to upgrade > it currently since I'm just not going to use the new features, or they > aren't going to benefit me enough to justify the purchase. > > Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com > > > > > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory > >>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:14 PM > >>To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > >>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? > >> > >>Hello flashcoders, > >> > >> I think it's no question that one need to upgrade. And I'll do it in > >> 1-2 month ;-). > >> > >> Question was if (and when) it's necessary to update existing > >> applications (e.g. "migrate") to use new features of Flash 8. > >> > >>-Original Message- > >>frcfc> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:12:10 -0500 > >>frcfc> From: Judah Frangipane > >>frcfc> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? > >>frcfc> To: Flashcoders mailing list > > >>frcfc> Message-ID: > >>frcfc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >> > >>frcfc> I'd upgrade to Flash 8 even though you are doing Flash 6 and 7. > It has a > >>frcfc> lot of little things that make development quicker. So even > though you > >>frcfc> are exporting to Flash 7 you can still take advantage of the > new text > >>frcfc> resizing handles (something I use everyday) and other neat > little > >>frcfc> changes. Or wait until 8.2 update (if one comes out). > >> > >>frcfc> Best, > >>frcfc> Judah > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Best regards, > >> Gregorymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>http://GOusable.com > >>Flash components development. > >>Usability services. > >> > >> > >>___ > >>Flashcoders mailing list > >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > NOTICE: > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged > or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify > the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail > by you is prohibited. > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
Keep in mind too, you can still use Flash 8 and output Flash 7/AS2 content. The IDE is a big improvement in speed & resource usage as well as fixing a few bugs in Flash MX 2004. I've been getting myself into trouble designing in Flash 8 with my clients expecting me to transfer the design to Flex 1.5 which is Flash 7 only... but it DOES render out PNG sequences so all is not lost. - Original Message - From: "Merrill, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? I think you should base your decision on what the new improvements to Flash actually are, and see if you would make use of them with your clients... and if they are things that are going to be supported by the target player your market will have. At the same time, even still, its important to stay on top of technology as always. That's usually a good investment even if you aren't going to be able to use many of the new features right away, you might see some improved efficiencies. For me, I have upgraded Flash every time it has been upgraded, but Adobe Illustrator, I am still using version 9 and don't see a need to upgrade it currently since I'm just not going to use the new features, or they aren't going to benefit me enough to justify the purchase. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory >>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:14 PM >>To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? >> >>Hello flashcoders, >> >> I think it's no question that one need to upgrade. And I'll do it in >> 1-2 month ;-). >> >> Question was if (and when) it's necessary to update existing >> applications (e.g. "migrate") to use new features of Flash 8. >> >>-----Original Message- >>frcfc> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:12:10 -0500 >>frcfc> From: Judah Frangipane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>frcfc> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? >>frcfc> To: Flashcoders mailing list >>frcfc> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>frcfc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >>frcfc> I'd upgrade to Flash 8 even though you are doing Flash 6 and 7. It has a >>frcfc> lot of little things that make development quicker. So even though you >>frcfc> are exporting to Flash 7 you can still take advantage of the new text >>frcfc> resizing handles (something I use everyday) and other neat little >>frcfc> changes. Or wait until 8.2 update (if one comes out). >> >>frcfc> Best, >>frcfc> Judah >> >> >>-- >>Best regards, >> Gregorymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>http://GOusable.com >>Flash components development. >>Usability services. >> >> >>___ >>Flashcoders mailing list >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
I think you should base your decision on what the new improvements to Flash actually are, and see if you would make use of them with your clients... and if they are things that are going to be supported by the target player your market will have. At the same time, even still, its important to stay on top of technology as always. That's usually a good investment even if you aren't going to be able to use many of the new features right away, you might see some improved efficiencies. For me, I have upgraded Flash every time it has been upgraded, but Adobe Illustrator, I am still using version 9 and don't see a need to upgrade it currently since I'm just not going to use the new features, or they aren't going to benefit me enough to justify the purchase. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory >>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:14 PM >>To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? >> >>Hello flashcoders, >> >> I think it's no question that one need to upgrade. And I'll do it in >> 1-2 month ;-). >> >> Question was if (and when) it's necessary to update existing >> applications (e.g. "migrate") to use new features of Flash 8. >> >>-----Original Message- >>frcfc> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:12:10 -0500 >>frcfc> From: Judah Frangipane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>frcfc> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? >>frcfc> To: Flashcoders mailing list >>frcfc> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>frcfc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >>frcfc> I'd upgrade to Flash 8 even though you are doing Flash 6 and 7. It has a >>frcfc> lot of little things that make development quicker. So even though you >>frcfc> are exporting to Flash 7 you can still take advantage of the new text >>frcfc> resizing handles (something I use everyday) and other neat little >>frcfc> changes. Or wait until 8.2 update (if one comes out). >> >>frcfc> Best, >>frcfc> Judah >> >> >>-- >>Best regards, >> Gregorymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>http://GOusable.com >>Flash components development. >>Usability services. >> >> >>___ >>Flashcoders mailing list >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
Yeah, the new non-annoying library panel is almost worth the upgrade price on its own... Alias On 10/27/05, Judah Frangipane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd upgrade to Flash 8 even though you are doing Flash 6 and 7. It has a > lot of little things that make development quicker. So even though you > are exporting to Flash 7 you can still take advantage of the new text > resizing handles (something I use everyday) and other neat little > changes. Or wait until 8.2 update (if one comes out). > > Best, > Judah > > Gregory wrote: > > >Hello flashcoders, > > > >I haven't upgrade to Flash 8 so far. Of course I'll do it soon ;-). > >But I have already read some of the manuals (AS reference, components > etc) > > > >New features are great, definitely worth buying/using/migrating. > >The only question is "when"? > > > >Example: > >My product, Dynamic Blend v.2 Flash MX 2004 component, uses Color class > (Flash 5-7). > >Have a look: http://www.gousable.com/flash/dynBlend.html > > > >Now in Flash 8 Color class became deprecated (in favor of the > flash.geom.ColorTransform class). > >No doubt flash.geom.ColorTransform class is better, but it's > "flash8-only". > > > >Most other deprecated functions are from Flash 4, so I think Color > >class will be supported until version 10 (or even 12 ;-). > > > >On the other hand, during the last year approx. 80% of my clients require > compatibility with > >Flash Player 6, and approx 30% - with Flash Player 5! > > > >If possible, I don't want to force user to install something... > > > >I'd like to hear your opinion regarding this. > > > > > > > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
Hello flashcoders, I think it's no question that one need to upgrade. And I'll do it in 1-2 month ;-). Question was if (and when) it's necessary to update existing applications (e.g. "migrate") to use new features of Flash 8. -Original Message- frcfc> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:12:10 -0500 frcfc> From: Judah Frangipane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> frcfc> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? frcfc> To: Flashcoders mailing list frcfc> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> frcfc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed frcfc> I'd upgrade to Flash 8 even though you are doing Flash 6 and 7. It has a frcfc> lot of little things that make development quicker. So even though you frcfc> are exporting to Flash 7 you can still take advantage of the new text frcfc> resizing handles (something I use everyday) and other neat little frcfc> changes. Or wait until 8.2 update (if one comes out). frcfc> Best, frcfc> Judah -- Best regards, Gregorymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://GOusable.com Flash components development. Usability services. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
> little things that make development quicker Faster compile time being the most important, IMHO. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
I'd upgrade to Flash 8 even though you are doing Flash 6 and 7. It has a lot of little things that make development quicker. So even though you are exporting to Flash 7 you can still take advantage of the new text resizing handles (something I use everyday) and other neat little changes. Or wait until 8.2 update (if one comes out). Best, Judah Gregory wrote: Hello flashcoders, I haven't upgrade to Flash 8 so far. Of course I'll do it soon ;-). But I have already read some of the manuals (AS reference, components etc) New features are great, definitely worth buying/using/migrating. The only question is "when"? Example: My product, Dynamic Blend v.2 Flash MX 2004 component, uses Color class (Flash 5-7). Have a look: http://www.gousable.com/flash/dynBlend.html Now in Flash 8 Color class became deprecated (in favor of the flash.geom.ColorTransform class). No doubt flash.geom.ColorTransform class is better, but it's "flash8-only". Most other deprecated functions are from Flash 4, so I think Color class will be supported until version 10 (or even 12 ;-). On the other hand, during the last year approx. 80% of my clients require compatibility with Flash Player 6, and approx 30% - with Flash Player 5! If possible, I don't want to force user to install something... I'd like to hear your opinion regarding this. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
If your audience is: >>On the other hand, during the last year approx. 80% of my clients require >>compatibility with >>Flash Player 6, and approx 30% - with Flash Player 5! Then you have no reason to migrate to Flash 8, as you will only be exporting Flash 6 files anyway. Unless you want to just have it to learn. Most of the improvements to Flash 8 require the Flash 8 player. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory >>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:22 AM >>To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>Subject: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8? >> >>Hello flashcoders, >> >>I haven't upgrade to Flash 8 so far. Of course I'll do it soon ;-). >>But I have already read some of the manuals (AS reference, components etc) >> >>New features are great, definitely worth buying/using/migrating. >>The only question is "when"? >> >>Example: >>My product, Dynamic Blend v.2 Flash MX 2004 component, uses Color class (Flash >>5-7). >>Have a look: http://www.gousable.com/flash/dynBlend.html >> >>Now in Flash 8 Color class became deprecated (in favor of the >>flash.geom.ColorTransform class). >>No doubt flash.geom.ColorTransform class is better, but it's "flash8-only". >> >>Most other deprecated functions are from Flash 4, so I think Color >>class will be supported until version 10 (or even 12 ;-). >> >>On the other hand, during the last year approx. 80% of my clients require >>compatibility with >>Flash Player 6, and approx 30% - with Flash Player 5! >> >>If possible, I don't want to force user to install something... >> >>I'd like to hear your opinion regarding this. >> >>-- >>Best regards, >> Gregory mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>http://GOusable.com >>Flash components development. >>Usability services. >> >> >>___ >>Flashcoders mailing list >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
I'd go ahead and upgrade now. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
we have only just moved into full support for flash 7 a few months ago. Any project which requires a broad section of the community to be able to participate needs to stay away from flash 8 for a fair while I would think. 8 has lots and lots of nice stuff for experimenting, and it would be great for controlled environments (intranets... etc), but I would take the macromedia stats regarding player penetration with a grain of salt I reckon. Hello flashcoders, I haven't upgrade to Flash 8 so far. Of course I'll do it soon ;-). But I have already read some of the manuals (AS reference, components etc) New features are great, definitely worth buying/using/migrating. The only question is "when"? Example: My product, Dynamic Blend v.2 Flash MX 2004 component, uses Color class (Flash 5-7). Have a look: http://www.gousable.com/flash/dynBlend.html Now in Flash 8 Color class became deprecated (in favor of the flash.geom.ColorTransform class). No doubt flash.geom.ColorTransform class is better, but it's "flash8-only". Most other deprecated functions are from Flash 4, so I think Color class will be supported until version 10 (or even 12 ;-). On the other hand, during the last year approx. 80% of my clients require compatibility with Flash Player 6, and approx 30% - with Flash Player 5! If possible, I don't want to force user to install something... I'd like to hear your opinion regarding this. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
Hello flashcoders, I haven't upgrade to Flash 8 so far. Of course I'll do it soon ;-). But I have already read some of the manuals (AS reference, components etc) New features are great, definitely worth buying/using/migrating. The only question is "when"? Example: My product, Dynamic Blend v.2 Flash MX 2004 component, uses Color class (Flash 5-7). Have a look: http://www.gousable.com/flash/dynBlend.html Now in Flash 8 Color class became deprecated (in favor of the flash.geom.ColorTransform class). No doubt flash.geom.ColorTransform class is better, but it's "flash8-only". Most other deprecated functions are from Flash 4, so I think Color class will be supported until version 10 (or even 12 ;-). On the other hand, during the last year approx. 80% of my clients require compatibility with Flash Player 6, and approx 30% - with Flash Player 5! If possible, I don't want to force user to install something... I'd like to hear your opinion regarding this. -- Best regards, Gregory mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://GOusable.com Flash components development. Usability services. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
