Re: [flexcoders] AMFPHP Security?
Thanks everyone for your help on this. I was hoping for some ideas but now i have loads of them! We will look into these replies in more detail in the coming days. Its interesting to know the different approaches available. Im starring this! Clark. On 11 August 2010 14:57, Imap.gmail.com jmitchell@gmail.com wrote: Use a token system. Accessing the entry page, preferably by the submission and validation of a username and password, have the server randomly generate a token and store it in php (or whatever your server side language is written in) session variables. For any other data request of any kind, query the session token and validate it prior to accepting any data or executing any other code. This, of course, should be in addition to any sql injection correction you do on data received (side note). Happy coding! Jm Sent from my iPad
Re: [flexcoders] Re: flash builder: how to create an as3 project WITHOUT flex sdk
Yeah mate. You need the Flex SDK but if you start an Actionscript project you have no access to the MXML stuff. I dont use Flex as a MXML language... ie the framework. It reminds me of boring forms and banking applications. But AS3 on the other hand. You can do anything you want. Clark. On 12 August 2010 20:27, Oleg Sivokon olegsivo...@gmail.com wrote: The definition for Sprite is in playerglobals.swc. However, you are asking wrong question. You cannot compile an AS3 project w/o SDK, or you would need at least an alternative compiler, and only one that exists is the one developed by SWFTools few years ago. But it's outdated now... so, technically, for AS3 Flex SDK is your only option. On the other hand, having other libraries in your path won't harm because they aren't embedded in your project, unless you explicitly embed them.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: AMFPHP Security?
Thanks for your help guys. Oleg: I didnt really understand what you meant. The server cant know about your highscroe locally? IE: you score 13 points. You need to tell the server that you got 13 points. How could the server know otherwise that you got 13 points? Valdhor: I think this is something we approached first. When the HTML page is generated, a hash is created which must be passed along with the username for anything to happen. Its just for my brain, whats to stop me using charles to see the hash, then calling highscore(userID, hash, 39894809489048840984). Its for this reason i dont understand hashs, they help but not really. https was also another option but i think that this application uses different networks Game.swf comes from game.com UserInfo comes from network1.com, network2.com I believe this makes HTTPS impossible? Anyways thanks again. Cheers, Clark. On 11 August 2010 14:35, valdhor valdhorli...@embarqmail.com wrote: You could always use a secure connection via https. Also, you could send an encrypted username and password. For example, every thirty minutes generate a new password string. The server can use the same algorithm to generate a string and then you could compare them. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Clark Stevenson a.scots...@... wrote: Hi all. I am new to AMFPHP. Lets say you have a class and a function: SomeClass.saveHighScore(304958); For me, the way i see it, is that anyone using Charles can call this method? Whats to stop anyone from calling it directly? SomeClass.saveHighScore(20394948548438484). Can any one advise me on ways i could secure this method? Thanks. Clark.
[flexcoders] Can i view the output panel in a stand alone swf? (like throw new error)
Hi all, I work remotely and sometimes the connecting part between myself and my colleague is awkward since he must asked me to trace output and forward it to him. When you throw a new error and run it online, you see the error in a panel. Is it possible to display output in this panel and not just catch errors? So that my colleague can run the swf, and see the debug information. Just like a trace statement outputs in dev environment? Cheers, Clark.
[flexcoders] FB4 / FP caching issue? What is causing it?
I have an issue when loading SWFS into FB4. Yesterday i uploaded SWFs and XML to the server and load it into Flex. I had a couple of errors on some of these SWFs such as leaving old artwork in. I fixed these issues then i uploaded the new swfs to the server. For 4 hours i have been looking through each SWF and i can swear in my life that these SWFs are now identical, all errors have been fixed. Theres no garbage children any more. So i upload all the SWFs to the server again. Rerun the application. The same thing... So i though, ill take 6.swf, copy it and rename it to 7.swf and uploaded that to the server. Rerun the application. The same thing. When i sent the SWF to a work mate today, he returned a screenshot of exactly what i expected.. In other words, if i run the application, i see yesterdays SWFs. If he runs it, he sees todays. What is going on here? I work with loaded SWFS all the time and have never had this issue. I dont debug in a browser but directly in the debug player. I emptied caches on all my browsers anyway, i restarted, i cleaned the project. I exported a release build, put it in my c:windows folder just for a laugh. I deleted the bin-debug folder and rebuilt. Does anyone have any ideas? Clark.
[flexcoders] Re: FB4 / FP caching issue? What is causing it?
If i load up swfs with the following it works: SWFLINK+?nocache=random Although, i still have no idea why i need to do that. On 16 July 2010 09:19, Clark Stevenson a.scots...@gmail.com wrote: I have an issue when loading SWFS into FB4. Yesterday i uploaded SWFs and XML to the server and load it into Flex. I had a couple of errors on some of these SWFs such as leaving old artwork in. I fixed these issues then i uploaded the new swfs to the server. For 4 hours i have been looking through each SWF and i can swear in my life that these SWFs are now identical, all errors have been fixed. Theres no garbage children any more. So i upload all the SWFs to the server again. Rerun the application. The same thing... So i though, ill take 6.swf, copy it and rename it to 7.swf and uploaded that to the server. Rerun the application. The same thing. When i sent the SWF to a work mate today, he returned a screenshot of exactly what i expected.. In other words, if i run the application, i see yesterdays SWFs. If he runs it, he sees todays. What is going on here? I work with loaded SWFS all the time and have never had this issue. I dont debug in a browser but directly in the debug player. I emptied caches on all my browsers anyway, i restarted, i cleaned the project. I exported a release build, put it in my c:windows folder just for a laugh. I deleted the bin-debug folder and rebuilt. Does anyone have any ideas? Clark.
Re: [flexcoders] Loaded SWF loses nested child instance name
Thanks for your quick reply Oleg as always. I have been looking for ways to make this happen over the last few hours. My latest brainwave (pathetic guess attempt) was a Document class called Main which looked something like this: public var itemRef:MovieClip = MovieClip(this.item); public var colorRef:MovieClip = MovieClip(itemRef.color); public var overlayRef:MovieClip = MovieClip(itemRef.overlay); I dont really understand the document class as Flash isnt really my working tool. However, i assumed this would work. If Main.as is a flas document class, then Main essentially becomes root ? In any case loadedSWF.itemRef = undefined. Usually we generate SWCs with Actionscript identifiers but since thats a compile time process?, and this is a runtime process, im a little confused. All of these swfs simply have: root -item --color --overlay I might just be best to stick to depths as long as im clear to explain that color must always be on the bottom depth. I still dont understand why names break however. Cheers, Clark. On 14 July 2010 12:50, Oleg Sivokon olegsivo...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that wasn't a good idea from the start, as instance name isn't a reliable identification (you can assign two identical names to different instances and that will compile, while the second instance will not be available). What I usually do in such case is: I prepare the class with the fields it should have, give it to designer and explain hot to link their library items to that class, and then when I compile, I use my own version of that class with the functionality added, this way we (me and designer) can work on the same class and I don't have problems using it in my project. Ah, important to note, this approach requires that the designer turn off the automatically declare stage instances in publish settings.
Re: [flexcoders] Loaded SWF loses nested child instance name
Your a gentleman Oleg thanks for explaining. Clark On 15 July 2010 11:41, Oleg Sivokon olegsivo...@gmail.com wrote: Nope, not really, what happens is like this: the document class is a sprite, which has some code in it, which is called first in the application and this class is automatically added to stage, if it is not loaded. However, if the SWF is loaded, then the class isn't automatically added to stage, however, the constructor is executed before that. Now, Flash will create variables and assign the library instances to those variables if you put those instances on the stage, however, if you turn off the automatically declare stage instances, Flash will not create the corresponding variables for them (and so you will get an option to define them yourself in your class. You don't need to initialize those variables to anything, Flash will initialize them to the timeline placed instances of the same name.
[flexcoders] Loaded SWF loses nested child instance name
Bit of a horrible title. In Flash i have this as a SWF: root -item --overlay --color Where root holds MovieClip with instance name item and item holds moviclips with instance names color and overlay. Loading this SWF is then converted into a MovieClip var loadedSWF:MovieClip = //the loaded swf For some reason, i cannot access overlay and color by instance name but i can access item. var item:MovieClip = MovieClip(loadedSWF.item) // result [MovieClip] But thats as far as i can reference any other item. var overlay:MovieClip = MovieClip(loadedSWF.item.overlay) //result undefined or null var color:MovieClip = MovieClip(loadedSWF.item.color); //result undefined or null However item.numChildren() //returns 2 which is correct (overlay and color) item.getChildByIndex(1); //returns color Because of the nature of this project, i really need to have access to instance names as opposed to depths. Depths is going to get complicated and cause mistakes between me and the designer. Does anyone know why i cannot access the children of item? Yet i can access the child of loadedSWF. Thank you.
Re: [flexcoders] Uninstall Flash Player
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/141/tn_14157.html Clark. On 5 July 2010 16:17, Johannes Nel johannes@gmail.com wrote: there is also a flash version switcher for firefox http://www.sephiroth.it/weblog/archives/2006/10/flash_switcher_for_firefox.php On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Christophe christophe_jacque...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hello, How to uninstall Flash Player 10.1 (on Firefox) to get back to Flash Player 10.0 ? Thx, Christophe, -- j:pn \\no comment
Re: [flexcoders] Melbourne Flex User Group Tonight
Hope it goes well. I wish i lived there :( On 1 July 2010 01:50, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Hi All, Sorry if I’m over promoting this, but it’s the first event. Venue: CogState Level 2 / 255 Bourke Street Melbourne Victoria When: 1st Thursday of the month (TONIGHT) Website: http://mfug.groups.adobe.com Prizes:Twice a year we will draw a raffle for up to $2,100 USD of Adobe software, each user group you attend gets you one entry into the draw. So the more you come the more chance you have. Agenda:6:30 – 7:00 Pizza Drinks 7:00 – 8:30 Presentation 8:30 – 9:00 Questions Discussion SPECIAL!! There will be a prize draw tonight, come along and have a chance to win Adobe Creative Suite Web Premium. IMPORTANT!! If you can sign up at the above link and RSVP this would be helpful for catering purposes. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com
[flexcoders] ColorPicker loses swatch panel in form..
Hi all, I have a weird issue with the color picker in a form. If you drag a color picker into the form and dont do anything, it works perfectly. However, if you disable the FormItem or remove the FormItem and then reenabled it or add it... The color picker swatch panel does not open again. Even when you call explicitly: colorPicker.open What is strange is that you can still click on the color picker, and use the keyboard to navigate the swatch panel. Any ideas? Clark.
[flexcoders] Re: httpservice.lastresult completes but theres no data.
It seems e4x is the problem. If i change the httpservice class to xml The lastResult property is shown. There must be some special rule where this isnt acceptably in e4x: data/data It only shows under the xml format. Why is this? Clark. On 1 July 2010 00:23, Clark Stevenson a.scots...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I have a nightmare problem. I am using httpservice with e4x. If i was to retrieve an XML file from the server in this simple format: data id=1 item / data If i looked at my httpservice.lastResult i would see the above xml. This works perfect. However, in my case, the data may contain no items. data id=2 /data Now my last result, loads without error, even charles tells me the page size etc. However, when i try to look at the result i see nothing... No data at all. I have ran out of ideas on what else to test. Is there anything obvious which i am missing? Maybe some rule where data id=2/data is converted to data id=2 / and flex simply does not like this format? Thanks for reading. Clark.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: httpservice.lastresult completes but theres no data.
Thanks for your help Oleg, Appreciated. I think your solution makes sense although i think i also may have been uneducated with the root node. The server returns data/data as data / And since data is the root node, it appears to be ignored (or an empty string like you say). root data id=1 /data /root will turn into root data id=1 / /root And this solved the problem of the missing lastresult. Clark. On 1 July 2010 09:27, Oleg Sivokon olegsivo...@gmail.com wrote: E4X prints the content of self closing nodes as an empty string (if it's not the root node). You may want to use toXMLString() to print the structure of the node.
[flexcoders] httpservice.lastresult completes but theres no data.
Hi everyone. I have a nightmare problem. I am using httpservice with e4x. If i was to retrieve an XML file from the server in this simple format: data id=1 item / data If i looked at my httpservice.lastResult i would see the above xml. This works perfect. However, in my case, the data may contain no items. data id=2 /data Now my last result, loads without error, even charles tells me the page size etc. However, when i try to look at the result i see nothing... No data at all. I have ran out of ideas on what else to test. Is there anything obvious which i am missing? Maybe some rule where data id=2/data is converted to data id=2 / and flex simply does not like this format? Thanks for reading. Clark.
Re: [flexcoders] SecurityError: Error #2121
I allowed every single combination i could think of: domain.com http://domain.com; http://www.domain.com; www.domain.com and so on, even * Still the same error :( On 29 June 2010 06:35, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: In Flash, “domin” is not “domain” is not “domain.com” On 6/28/10 3:34 PM, Clark Stevenson a.scots...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. My problem seems pretty simple. Im trying to load a SWF into a SWFLoader in FB4. I get this error in the debug view locally, but also when on the test server. SecurityError: Error #2121: Security sandbox violation: Loader.content: http://domin/dir/tool.swf/[[DYNAMIC]]/2http://domin/dir/tool.swf/%5B%5BDYNAMIC%5D%5D/2cannot access http://domain/dir/dir/2.swf. This may be worked around by calling Security.allowDomain. I am not trying to pull SWFs from any other swf. I have a * in my crossdomain.xml I have set: Security.allowDomain(domain.com http://domain.com ); In the creation complete event. Hmm does anyone know how i can solve this? I googled it and went through the first 2 pages, tried loading a policy file, and a few other things. Its a new server, so maybe i have missed something in my setup as i have never run into this before. Thanks. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe System, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: [flexcoders] SecurityError: Error #2121
Hey your right :) If i goto http://domain.com/tool.html It will throw errors when loading SWFs but if i goto: http://www.domain.com/tool.html It works perfectly. Never seen that before so its new to me. Thanks for your input. Clark. On 29 June 2010 09:09, Clark Stevenson a.scots...@gmail.com wrote: I allowed every single combination i could think of: domain.com http://domain.com; http://www.domain.com; www.domain.com and so on, even * Still the same error :( On 29 June 2010 06:35, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: In Flash, “domin” is not “domain” is not “domain.com” On 6/28/10 3:34 PM, Clark Stevenson a.scots...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. My problem seems pretty simple. Im trying to load a SWF into a SWFLoader in FB4. I get this error in the debug view locally, but also when on the test server. SecurityError: Error #2121: Security sandbox violation: Loader.content: http://domin/dir/tool.swf/[[DYNAMIC]]/2http://domin/dir/tool.swf/%5B%5BDYNAMIC%5D%5D/2cannot access http://domain/dir/dir/2.swf. This may be worked around by calling Security.allowDomain. I am not trying to pull SWFs from any other swf. I have a * in my crossdomain.xml I have set: Security.allowDomain(domain.com http://domain.com ); In the creation complete event. Hmm does anyone know how i can solve this? I googled it and went through the first 2 pages, tried loading a policy file, and a few other things. Its a new server, so maybe i have missed something in my setup as i have never run into this before. Thanks. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe System, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
[flexcoders] SecurityError: Error #2121
Hi everyone. My problem seems pretty simple. Im trying to load a SWF into a SWFLoader in FB4. I get this error in the debug view locally, but also when on the test server. SecurityError: Error #2121: Security sandbox violation: Loader.content: http://domin/dir/tool.swf/[[DYNAMIC]]/2 cannot access http://domain/dir/dir/2.swf. This may be worked around by calling Security.allowDomain. I am not trying to pull SWFs from any other swf. I have a * in my crossdomain.xml I have set: Security.allowDomain(domain.com); In the creation complete event. Hmm does anyone know how i can solve this? I googled it and went through the first 2 pages, tried loading a policy file, and a few other things. Its a new server, so maybe i have missed something in my setup as i have never run into this before. Thanks.
[flexcoders] Debug button launching wrong file.
Hey all, I have a habit of hitting the debug tool button in FB4, lastnight i right clicked on a MXML component and hit set as default application. However, i didnt mean to do that. I have set the default app back to Main.mxml but when i click the debug button, Main.mxml never runs. I need to select the arrow, select Main.mxml and click that. This morning i have debugged 10 times and 6 of those times i used the debug button by habit So incredibly frustrating. Where i can stop this from happening? So i can set debug button back to Main.mxml Cheers, Clark.
Re: [flexcoders] Debug button launching wrong file.
Hey mate. Thanks for your help! I decided to go for the boring... copy and paste option but finally it works :D I wont be setting a new default application again any time soon! Clark. On 25 June 2010 10:05, dorkie dork from dorktown dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com wrote: You can go into your project properties and remove all the applications except the main one. You can add them back later. Also go into the menu Run Debug Other. Remove or modify those as well. You may want to restart and clean as well. If it still persists post back. If you do post back I'd say go into the Flex project properties and check for rogue application references in the XML. I'd then say clean and restart. These files are in the project root and hidden. If it still persists post back. If you do post back I'd then say you're wasting too much time tracking down a project properties related problem. In that case create a NEW blank project and copy the original files (not folders) into it. Recreate any folders. If it's in SVN copy the files out and try reverting back to an earlier version. Then recheck out the project again. Then of course paste in your local files. DO NOT COPY or PASTE directories from your original project if it is using SVN. Doing so will copy the hidden svn folders. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Clark Stevenson a.scots...@gmail.comwrote: Hey all, I have a habit of hitting the debug tool button in FB4, lastnight i right clicked on a MXML component and hit set as default application. However, i didnt mean to do that. I have set the default app back to Main.mxml but when i click the debug button, Main.mxml never runs. I need to select the arrow, select Main.mxml and click that. This morning i have debugged 10 times and 6 of those times i used the debug button by habit So incredibly frustrating. Where i can stop this from happening? So i can set debug button back to Main.mxml Cheers, Clark.
[flexcoders] Wheres my scrollbars gone? mx:Application to s:Application
Hey everyone. A second post in a single day! I have been working with the Flex SDK again although i have only really been experimenting this week. I managed to finish off a current module and its working great but the main thing concerning me is no scrollbars. mx:Application would just created scrollbars if the content required it. However Spark does not have this functionality. I wrapped my component in a s:Group clipAndEnableScrolling=true And now i get a little 300x200ish window with scrollbars which has destroyed my comonent layout.. Killed with frustration, i attempted to change back to mx:Application but of course, s:DropDownList is a spark component and so if i go back to mx:application then i break my component. How does one simply make s:Application contain scrollbars for the browser ala mx:Application style? Thanks. Clark.
[flexcoders] How do i embed a SWF in AS3?
Hey all, The title says it all. I know how to embed a symbol from a SWF, but everything i try when trying to embed a complete SWF fails: [Embed(source=assets/some.swf, mimeType=application/octet-stream)] private var MySWF:Class; var movie:MovieClip = new MySwf() as MovieClip This does not work which is slightly obvious as its a octet stream. So now i use a loader and try loadByes(new MySWF() as ByteArray) This tells me .swf contains invalid data. So i have no idea how to embed a SWF. Can anyone give me some help? Cheers, Clark.
[flexcoders] AS3/MXML Display list
Hey all. Can someone please help me understand how to work with the display list? Im an AS3 developer and very fond of the freedom i have with AS3. MXML has a great deal of useful components for connection to the backend and so on. These components could be handy for me and thus i need to use the MXML framework. So you start a new MXML Project and under the Script tag you add this code: fx:Script ![CDATA[ private var circle:Sprite; circle = new Sprite(); circle.graphics.beginFill(0x00); circle.graphics.drawCircle(100, 100, 100); circle.graphics.endFill(); addChild(circle); ]] /fx:Script Everything from the begin fill is an error. Can someone explain to me why Sprite() is AS3, why its available to the Script tags but why its not really supported? I just feel that MXML is screwing up my understanding of the player. Main.as is a game and it extends Sprite So if MXML was AS3, id simply add an instance of var main:Main = new Main(); --- this is my entire game. So you think, well Main extends Canvas but the Script tags on Canvas dont understand addChild either Is what i am trying to do just impossible? I know that MXML is a time saver and so on, but to be honest, i hate markup and i just cant find a way to go back what what i know. This is something which has bugged me for years... Id love to understand flex more, but after investing so many years in AS3 development, its just another AS2 AS3 jump to start rewriting every single project in MXML and to be honest, i cant be bothered right now. If i cant use MXML i cant use them and that great, but theres trillions of forum posts on google with a trillion views on this subject and none of them really agree. Cheers
Re: [flexcoders] How do i install the debug player?
Thanks for your quick response Oleg.
For my workflow i code in AS3 projects and the assets from from a .fla
linked with a SWC. I still see people using nasty [embed] tags.
In any case, thanks for your reply. It made some sense to me. I decided id
get rid of every adobe product. I installed FB4 then FlashCS5 and everything
was ok. When you turn off the wrapper of the browser, FB will complain there
is no debug player available. As you said, the projector debugger does not
require any kind of install. You download the file called
flashplayer_10_sa_debug.exe from the debug page and then move this file
somewhere C:/dev/
Double click the file. When you go back to FB and hit debug, Flex
automatically knows the location of this directory magically. So if your
download folder is c:/downloads/ and you double click
flashplayer_10_sa_debug.exe, then FB will look in c:/downloads/ for the
debug player. If you move flashplayer_10_sa_debug the only way to get FB4 to
notice the new location is by running the flashplayer_10_sa_debug.exe file
first. There is no settings available to do this manually that im aware of
it.
So problem solved! Running the debug player directly lauches almost
instantly which is why i spent so long trying to solve the issue.
Cheers.
On 14 May 2010 00:13, Oleg Sivokon olegsivo...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, this may upset you, but FB and Flash player aren't really related...
also there's no need to install standalone player, it's just not a program
that requires installation, after you run any copy of it it will create a
file association to SWF files (will make itself a default program to open
files with SWF extension). You may also do that from folder options
dialog. It is true they may try to change that to whatever version of player
they came bundled with right when you install them, but later they never try
to change that.
Silly thing about FB though is you cannot configure it to use the copy of
the flash player that you want... it has no such setting... Regarding your
other issue with unistaller, I personally never had it, but, this page seem
to have some good info (although dated)
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Flash#Windows_and_Mac . Some other adobe
products may sometimes try to install their own versions of player. This
issue was discussed several times and Adobe promised to do something about
it in the future releases...
Since I need multiple different versions of Flash player for testing, I
first was switching the SDKs (every SDK comes with the set of debug players
- find them in the runtimes folder), but that's not comfortable, so, I move
them to the Program Files/Flash Player/version/{debug|release}. Could sound
a little messy, but once I made it a habit any time I need to get a new
standalone version I just put it there, it never gave me troubles.
Best.
Oleg
[flexcoders] How do i install the debug player?
Hey guys. I installed FB4 tonight for the 60 day trial and also Flash. Everything was great but obviously i need a debug player as some .dll was not found. I downloaded the latest debug from here: http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html Firstly: Active x wont install because it complains that i have a new version of the flash player and i should goto the standard download of the player in order to update. The firefox plugin installed ok, but thats really slow from launching I also downloaded a 5mb projector debugger... flashplayer_10_sa_debug --- this is what i want! So i dont need to wait for a browser to kick in. So I headed over to the uninstaller page: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/141/tn_14157.html Ran it, restarted Windows. I tried to install the Active X plugin again and got the same deal It informs me i have a newer version already installed. I got rid of Flash and FB4, restarted, reinstalled both, then when i opened FB4 i got You must install the flash player on the welcome tab. I did an other hour of trying but then FB4 started giving me Java point exception or something like that when i tried to hit Debug. I then spent a while going through the preferences trying to find some option to launch the debugger directly with flashplayer_10_sa_debug,exe but i couldnt find an option. So thats pretty much sapped my evening. Does everyone have a clue how i can simply install FB4 and a Debug player? Is there some order i should install CS5 FB4 Debug Players? Can i copy flashplayer_10_sa_debug to a folder where FB4 will recognise it and if so where? Trace() What a dear friend. Thanks for your time on this. Clark.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs
I just dont care. I have never went out my way to support Mac, ever. I think i made a mac screensaver once. Sorry guys im just not interested in it. Lets buy an apple which doesnt run anything versus a pc which does everything you throw at it. No thanks. If iplatform wont support flash, then who really cares? We never have been able to so whats the problem? Do people think you would be building a house of gold bars just because you make some pod/pad/phone apps? Have you even see the app store? 96% of it is total garbage. Even if you could make a flash app, its almost invisible in a sea of garbage. As keith peters once commented its like winning the lottery to get it right. Leave him to it. When HTML5 has 3d libraries and physics engines then ill consider the move, right now its not about technology. People will always download the flash runtime because it has a healthy community and its not a burden for the user. People are used to it. If you make a good app, people will embrace the platform it runs on. A 2+mb player or whatever isnt going to burden anyone in 2020. Its so far off that its comical. On 4 May 2010 17:42, Wally Kolcz wko...@isavepets.com wrote: I am failing to see what the issue is on having a proprietary player is anyways. If the company is as devoted to making it better (as adobe seems to be with the whole flash platform experience) what is the issue? Most companies I know that product web/software products are closed and proprietary. Ever seen the inner workings of MS Word or iPhoto? I am all about committee standard projects and open source projects. Keeps my budget down, but I am also just as ok with a company that makes a product that I enjoy both as a developer and as a user. (Insert Kool-Aid joke here). Also can't help but giggle when Steve talks about openness. This coming from the company that produces a phone where you can't even replace the battery or screen. Also, wasn't he the guy who tried to sue people for installing Mac OS on non Mac machines? Also, don't bitch about plugins when your Quicktime is a plug in too... If Steve Jobs doesn't want Flash Player on the iWhatever, so be it. Stick to your guns and call it a life. Stop beating it publicly. I am bored with it. Plenty of other Phones out there that will support it. Trick is to make them better and the mobile experience better so the iWhatever falls short. That is on us, the developers and designers of Flash media, to do. Committee standards are fine and there are a lot of things in the web universe that are governed by committee. BUT having some things are just fine when controlled by a company dedicated to improving and refining the product. Seems ever since Steve Jobs opened his iMouth there is a negative vibe about Abode solely owning a product thats its done a pretty good job at improving. Keep it closed, keep it proprietary, and keep it coming. (Even though they are opening a lot of it up). With our without the iWhatever support, Flash will continue along side of HTML5. I am still keen on Flash Player since I don't have to worry about if the browser supports JS or not. My stuff always renders the same as long as the plugin is there. Jingle...jingle...there is my 2 cents (which worth about half of that)
[flexcoders] Actionscript Project Flex Project How does the display list change?
Hey guys.
Say your familiar with Flash document Class. Flash Develop or Flex
actionscript projects in that your not so familiar with MXML.
You take this class
package
{
public class MyGraphic extends Sprite
{
private var customSprite:Sprite;
public function MyGraphic()
{
super();
}
}
}
Ok heres the issue. If i start a new Flex Project because i want to combine
either an existing complex project or branch my application out to pure AS3
yet i want to retain the functionality of MXML for a form or a games room
etc.
How can i do this?
I remember last time i tried it was awkward. MyGraphic needed to extend
UIComponent but then it got awkward because customSprite needed to also be a
UIComponent so i never found a way to combine them. Likewise, i read about a
rather obscure addRawChild() method but it seemed like a hack or frowned
apon.
That has something to do with the display list?
Is there any sources which i can read that deal with AS3 OOP TO Flex MXML
instead of treating you like you dont know what actionscript 3.0 is and
concentrating on MXML only? I cannot find the relationship or common
functionality between the 2 different approaches. If i go with MXML im stuck
in modular tags with supporting actionscript, or if go with only AS3 i
have no access to the framework.
Cheers.
Clark.
Re: [flexcoders] From your own experience how long does it take to learn AS3?
I started AS3 in a flex environment in 2007. I only currently code in AS3 as its all i require for games and the type of stuff i do. I found the journey difficult but all i knew was AS1 (and i didnt even understand it back then). Its not to much the syntax i struggle with but the structure and architecture... how does changes in portion A of my code change portion B elsewhere I still struggle with these issues but you start to find easier ways of doing things. Think of a project and break it into small pieces then build each piece. Dont try to start something massive on the first attemp because i did this and was always frustrated. Good luck though mate! If you enjoy what your doing (frustration aside) it will all work out. I will say one thing, if i ever had to start out again, id do C++! Cheers, Clark On 24 March 2010 19:51, ellistein52 ellistei...@yahoo.com wrote: I have no background in programming , I am close to 54.I am following some AS3 Lynda.com Essential Training. I seem to understand the material but when I try to make a simple program on my own I am lost , I have to refer back to the lesson to be able to write a simple line of code on my own.Also I started learning the material 4 weeks ago so maybe it is too early for me to write my own code? I would appreciate your comments regarding this issue.
[flexcoders] Updating Flash Client Runtime.
Hey all, Right now my project supports AS3 flash player 9. I am hoping shortly to purchase FB4 and move onto Flash player 10. How can i ensure a period where i can alert users to update thier flash player for future content? I seen things like this all the time back in Flash 5 days but not so much any more. Now it seems the only way to update the player is togo the tacky yahoo badware bundle on the adobe website to get the latest player? Thanks. Clark.
[flexcoders] Scotland: Any Flash/Flex/AS3 conferences?
Hey everyone. Im in Scotland and dispite now employed as a AS3 developer, i still to this day (since 2000 Flash 5) have never met a fellow developer face to face. Is there any events on in Scotland or the North of England at any point during the year which i could attend? It seems Flash on the Beach is the only UK conference i have heard about, but lets face it, if im going to save up to visit anywhere, its not going to be to Brighton for a few days of geek speak!!! I just thought id ask seeing i have asked on forums before and got no reply. Cheers, Clark.
Re: [flexcoders] Flash Templates
Flash templates are almost always horrifically coded and because of that id say you will never be able to import it into FB4. On 19 February 2010 16:45, Dan Pride danielpr...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a customer who wants to upgrade a flash template website. How far off is it to program this for a Flex Developer, or are there facilities to import it so I can work it in Flex 4 ? Tips appreciated, including if I should pass this one off. Dan
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Steve Jobs on Flash .......
I often get annoyed with performance. Is it backward compatibilty that causes the issues? Another thing which i was fairly irritated by was Alchemy in terms of how Alchemy runs better in the Flash Runtime than native AS3. I dont understand this. I would expect both to have atleast identical performance but not so. It would be cool to have some ultra optimied Flash Runtime 10.1+ which done away with all the crappy AS1/2 support and paved the way for the future, pixel bender, 3d, physics and all the rest of it. How this could happen... i dont know. On 8 February 2010 14:22, Battershall, Jeff jeff.battersh...@dowjones.comwrote: I believe FP 10.1 is specifically designed to address the two biggest issues that affect the deployment of Flash on devices: Memory consumption and global error handling. So help is on the way and I would think that Adobe's actions in that regard are anything but lazy. -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com [mailto: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of reflexactions Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:58 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Steve Jobs on Flash ... Its not a question of whether it was possible at some point to construct 'something' on a device with a limited version of flash. Its a question of whether you can construct something like this for example http://www.extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/grouptabs/grouptabs.html in flash with a comparable footprint and performance (a common complaint is cpu utilization for some reason flash soaks up a huge amount of the cpu compared to javascript). I was testing some regex code today and the same code ran 4 times faster in IE, 20 times faster in Safari and Chrome. Its not like these issues are anything new they've been around for years but they don't get fixed which I guess is what SJ was really meaning when he called Adobe lazy. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton g...@... wrote: That's nuts. We built a flash app that ran on the pocket PC 5 years ago - it's mad to think flash couldn't run on something as powerful as an iPhone. On the other hand, if I was looking at a new project, I'd certainly be asking myself if something like the SVGWeb toolkit from google would allow me to build something that would run native in many browsers (and in the iPhone and iPad). I do think Adobe should have been looking prior to now for ways to leverage SVG and javascript - all that platform needs is a good development environment - that's something Adobe could be making money from right now. Anyway...it's all rather silly and the town hall thing is farcical. Steve should have spent some of that pent up energy doing something truly great with the iPad, instead of just scaling up an iPhone. Guy On 08/02/2010, at 10:20 PM, reflexactions wrote: Well after 10 years plus of AS development my feelings are that SJ isn't wrong. We have to fend of a constant stream of complaints from users that the app is a memory hog and slow. We tell them it will improve soon but it never does, we tell them flash is a million times better than the alternatives, but to be honest JavaScript has caught up and is ahead in many things. Our app starts up at around 130Mb and reaches 250Mb before it levels out, JavaScript apps are a fraction of that. I hope his rant finally has some impact at Adobe and they pull there finger out, becuase past experience has shown that years of complaining/requests/bug reports gets nowhere then finally a rant in the face of someone who matters gets them to shift, I have no idea why its like that but time and again thats what happens. For us it is probably too late as this week after SJ's rant we were told to start planning the move away flash, the argument has been lost so badly it wasn't even an argument this time. For us to stay with flash, the next release would have to perform a miracle in terms of memory and performace gains on Mac and PC. Personally I don't think they can do it, I think they would be better of making AS3 compile down to JavaScript. With maybe a lighterweight plugin for somethings like video or graphics. Whatever they really needed to realise all this a year ago with solutions to be released now, not just smelling the coffee today. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Tim Romano tim.romano@ wrote: If the rumors about Bing are true, then this panning could also have something to do with Silverlight. If I were at MSFT and my role was to ensure that Silverlight succeeded in knocking Flash off (as Word knocked off WordPerfect back in the day, e.g.) then I'd be looking for chinks in Adobe's armor wherever they may be. On 2/1/2010 2:26 PM, Paul Andrews
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Builder 3 - A little to be desired [1 Attachment]
I have not filed a bug yet because i dont really think im good enough to technically describe the issue. When i went to help new bug i just got a page saying the module is missing or deactive on jira. The best way i can describe it in both FB3 and FB4 is that the actionscript editor does not notify FB that a change in the editor has been made. I dont know if i can attach images to this mailing list but the attached screenshot shows the issue. Joint2 is invalid so i got a runtime error in red. I then commented out the offending line and resaved it but still the problem persists. The screenshot shows the offending line of code along with its error AFTER i have hit save. Note that this is a completely seperate project to my first email. Running FB2 and FB3 under 32x never gave me any problems, and if it did, not with enough frequency to be noticible in the 2 years i used them. Running FB3 under VISTA Home 64x AMD 64 has this issue Running FB4 under 7 Ultimate 64x Intel i7, i5 has this issue It seems there is an inherited bug somewhere which effects 64x OS Windows or architecture.. When googling this i found little so if you do experience this issue and can let describe it well, please reply with details. As far as im concerned even an option to tick to force a clean on save would save alot of hassle. Also is there any keyboard shortcut to clean? Cheers. On 5 February 2010 03:24, Lee Jenkins l...@datatrakpos.com wrote: Clark Stevenson wrote: Ugh i can totally appreciate your email. I have struggled pretty much constantly over the last 2 years with all kinds of problems. The more I work with this product, the more I'm convinced that it is a very buggy piece product in very core areas. All kinds of mysterious compiler issues with fragments of code not getting linked in all the time, having to perform a clean every few changes of code ,which itself takes forever if there is more than one project involved. -- Warm Regards, Lee
[flexcoders] How to navigate up when dealing with the class path?
This might be a stupid question. I have an /assets/ folder which contains a Fla. In this scenario i need to hookup a package /assets/assets.fla /assets/assets.swc /assets/assets.swf /src/code/SomeCode.as If assets.fla needs to extend SomeCode.as then how can i set the class path or is this not possible? Both my Actionscript project and my assets.fla need to reference SomeCode.as but i tend to use a folder outside of my src folder for the purposes of non-as files. The reasoning behind this escapes me. Cheers,
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Builder 3 - A little to be desired
Ugh i can totally appreciate your email. I have struggled pretty much constantly over the last 2 years with all kinds of problems. My favorite one is the one that you describe. For no reason what so ever, pressing save all of a sudden does not work and you need to goto Project Clean. The first time this happened to me i lost out on a job interview purely because no matter what i did, flex wouldnt refresh and i didnt know about project Clean. Another classic, is that my Project Settings dialoge on x64 systems does not work, none of the buttons exist, you need to drag the dialogue box to make it tiny, select a new option, and resize the dialogue box again to see what is actually under, say, the class path or add SWC options. Updating the flex SDK: The whole wrapper issue. This is particulaly poor because its like Adove decided, lets make flex 3 a nightmare to update so you run out and buy FB4 Dragging a class into your Flex Project source path is often not found. If i drag zoo.birds.Eagle.as, it is entirely possible that Eagle wont be available dispite it being in the correct package and folder system. Flash player cannot be found, please install a debug version (fails at 49% build) And many more. I was particulaly depressed the other day when i tried FB4 under an I5 64bit system and ran into the whole forced clean after each build, its not filled me with alot of confidence. Cheers, Clark. On 2 February 2010 00:43, Gordon Smith gosm...@adobe.com wrote: Have you tried the beta of FlashBuilder 4? (FlexBuilder was renamed to FlashBuilder.) http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashbuilder4/ Gordon Smith Adobe Flex SDK Team *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Lee Jenkins *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2010 11:10 AM *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [flexcoders] Flex Builder 3 - A little to be desired Hi all, Just getting started with Flex and FlexBuilder and I am unimpressed with the FB IDE (though flex and actionscript are nice to me) and was hoping someone could help me out with a couple of annoyances. 1. After working in the editor, I ALWAYS have to highlight the project node in the Flex Navigator before Run, Debug, etc buttons work or say CTRL-F11 to run my project will work. 2. My projects (different ones I've noticed this with) required that I perform a Clean from the Project Clean menu before changes will take effect many times. I've wasted literally hours trying to figure why my code is not working correctly, until a light bulb goes off and I try the Clean option at which the compiler finally links in the changes. After working with the likes of Delphi and Visual Studio, I'm very disappointed in the product if I have to in fact take these annoying steps consistently just to get my projects to compile and build correctly :-) Thanks for suggestions. -- Warm Regards, Lee
