Re: [flexcoders] Flashbuilder and SnowLeopard ok?
My Fb works on SL without problems. We've got a few guys with Fb on SL, and we haven't had an issue yet. Go for it! -- Cole - Original Message From: djhatrick djhatr...@yahoo.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 6:58:29 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Flashbuilder and SnowLeopard ok? I want to upgrade to Snow Leopard, first things first, do Flasbuilder and SnowLeopard work ok together? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe promises *full flash* on mobile devices (all except iPhone)
H. Nice looking tree. My brother used to work for Sprint/Nextel, and he told me how they basically laughed in Apple's faces, and told them that the iPhone would fail, and that Apple had no clue about the phone business. Who's laughing now? Let's be honest, all these other phones look absolutely dated in comparison. I know, everyone doesn't want an iPhone, fine. Sure there's a non-iPhone market out there, but the app sales on these phones are horrible. So, what's the point? iPhone app sales are exploding. Apple actually delivered that holy grail of making the phone a serious profit center. A great user experience is what made Flash the success it is. The iPhone is successful for the same reason. Any platform that does not deliver the experience the user wants, will not do as well. So, I can't bring myself to get evenly slightly excited about this. I'm a lot more excited to see how the makers of the Pocket God iPhone app used Flash animation and converted it into animation for the iPhone. If full flash on these mobile devices means addressing the problems of memory leaks, high cpu, and low battery life, than they have made a big step. These are likely reasons why Flash is not on iPhone today. But if Adobe is spending valuable resources making full Flash for Android, I have to seriously question the business case. Yes, it's a good thing, and I hope Android succeeds. But it wouldn't be surprising if Adobe spent more money in development than the entire amount of money the whole non-Apple industry made back in app sales. What's going to sell more copies of Flash Pro? The ability to do Android? Or the ability to do iPhone? In the meantime, iPhone is continuing to eat up market share in big chunks and racking up huge sales.That's the forest. -- Cole - Original Message From: Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 4:32:57 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe promises *full flash* on mobile devices (all except iPhone) reflexactions wrote: Personally, for me, the real woo hoo! on this release is the global error handling. Its good to see that beating up adobe staff does work, ... eventually :) Now if only they could do something about the memory and we might have a real RIA platform on our hands. I think Steve Jobs can be thanked for jerking the mobile world out of the doldrums. I can't imagine the restrictions of old can last for future designs. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe promises *full flash* on mobile devices (all except iPhone)
Of course, I should know better than to rant on the same day as the keynote. CS5 will do the job on apps, apparently. So, this is great news. Still, the flash plugin for iPhone Safari is an different animal. - Original Message From: Cole Joplin cole_jop...@yahoo.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 10:47:59 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe promises *full flash* on mobile devices (all except iPhone) H. Nice looking tree. My brother used to work for Sprint/Nextel, and he told me how they basically laughed in Apple's faces, and told them that the iPhone would fail, and that Apple had no clue about the phone business. Who's laughing now? Let's be honest, all these other phones look absolutely dated in comparison. I know, everyone doesn't want an iPhone, fine. Sure there's a non-iPhone market out there, but the app sales on these phones are horrible. So, what's the point? iPhone app sales are exploding. Apple actually delivered that holy grail of making the phone a serious profit center. A great user experience is what made Flash the success it is. The iPhone is successful for the same reason. Any platform that does not deliver the experience the user wants, will not do as well. So, I can't bring myself to get evenly slightly excited about this. I'm a lot more excited to see how the makers of the Pocket God iPhone app used Flash animation and converted it into animation for the iPhone. If full flash on these mobile devices means addressing the problems of memory leaks, high cpu, and low battery life, than they have made a big step. These are likely reasons why Flash is not on iPhone today. But if Adobe is spending valuable resources making full Flash for Android, I have to seriously question the business case. Yes, it's a good thing, and I hope Android succeeds. But it wouldn't be surprising if Adobe spent more money in development than the entire amount of money the whole non-Apple industry made back in app sales. What's going to sell more copies of Flash Pro? The ability to do Android? Or the ability to do iPhone? In the meantime, iPhone is continuing to eat up market share in big chunks and racking up huge sales.That's the forest. -- Cole - Original Message From: Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 4:32:57 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe promises *full flash* on mobile devices (all except iPhone) reflexactions wrote: Personally, for me, the real woo hoo! on this release is the global error handling. Its good to see that beating up adobe staff does work, ... eventually :) Now if only they could do something about the memory and we might have a real RIA platform on our hands. I think Steve Jobs can be thanked for jerking the mobile world out of the doldrums. I can't imagine the restrictions of old can last for future designs. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] AVI video viewer
Christophe, At my work, we have an issue of a minority of customers wanting to keep their legacy video formats going, namely, MPEG2. For this, we have an older solution for them. While AVI (VC-1) is technically Microsoft's preferred format, MPG4 (h.264) is the current industry standard. Even Silverlight is bowing to the pressure to support it in the next rev. The rule of the day is to encode other formats to h.264, which is where Adobe has placed the Flash Player. YouTube is a perfect example. In my personal opinion, admittedly a little inflamatory, but running AVIs natively in Flash is like asking for a cassette tape player. Cole Joplin - Original Message From: christophe_jacquelin christophe_jacque...@yahoo.fr To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 6:59:04 AM Subject: [flexcoders] AVI video viewer Hello, I am searching an AVI video file viewer in Flex (not Flv or Swf videos). Thank you, Christophe -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] anyone know of a good (free) flex component for playing video/swfs?
Depending on what you are doing, this could be a very bad idea. Loading an FLV is simple and easy. SWFs are very different, especially if it is outward facing, like people loading their own SWFs. What if the SWF wants its own controls? Will your wrapper/player assume a timeline-based playback only? If it's actionscript-based, how would you control it, or show progress? What if it's AS2, and you are loading it inside Flex? Will you maintain it to support newer versions of Flash later? What about FLVs embedded in the SWF timeline? Or Externally loaded FLVs from a SWF? I can think of dozens of reasons why this can become a nightmare trying to support infinite SWFs from your finite player. It sounds like a good thing to do, and a easy request to make. But when it comes to implementation and support, you have some serious questions to ask yourself. That's why you're not getting responses to a simple, one-size-fits-all Flex component for controlling SWFs. I would not recommend creating a Flex app with a customer expectation that it will load and control any SWF they can throw at it. You may want to consider just loading video files, FLVs and h.264 It's easy to support and it sounds like that's what you're trying to do in the first place. -- Cole - Original Message From: gmoniey22 gmonie...@yahoo.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 7:34:31 PM Subject: [flexcoders] anyone know of a good (free) flex component for playing video/swfs? I'm looking for a simply (and reliable) flex component which can play a flv or a swf and has the basic controls (Play/Pause/Progress bar) Any suggestions? Thanks -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Flash causing Mac to crash
We've got a number of big and small Flex apps running on Macs with 3.2/10 with no issues. The some Macs comment might be an Intel-based vs. PowerPC-based issue or Tiger vs. Leopard, who knows. It wouldn't hurt to try to nail that down more before you start looking at lists, and save a lot of time. -- Cole From: tom s tcs2...@gmail.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 1:04:50 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Flash causing Mac to crash I have a Flash app (built in Flex 3.2 for FP 10) that is causing some Macs to crash (they have FP 10 installed). It works fine on Windows in IE, FF, Chrome, Safari. I need to do some more testing to understand exactly what is going on, but before I do that I'm doing some research (and I dont have a Mac at my hands right now). I see some forum discussion between Mac users about Flash causing problems, and how they remedy that on their side. Questions 1. Is there a site that lists the known issues for Flash on Macs? 2. Are there any known 'danger zones' that Flex developers should avoid when building applications with Flex? (i.e. are the certain classes that are known to cause trouble?) thanks tom
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Ribbon in FLEX
More importantly, I have a concern. There is plenty of room in RIA and Microsoft-oriented forums and groups to make their case. I'm even fine with some open debate in Flexcoders. What I don't want to see is Microsoft's Rich Platforms Product Manager, let alone other Microsofties, spamming our Flex group with spin on thread after thread after thread. Given the traffic on this list, I hardly think that the 2-3 on-topic posts I've seen from Scott in the past week classify as spam. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Jeffry, no fair editing out the next sentence: More importantly, I have a concern. There is plenty of room in RIA and Microsoft-oriented forums and groups to make their case. I'm even fine with some open debate in Flexcoders. What I don't want to see is Microsoft's Rich Platforms Product Manager, let alone other Microsofties, spamming our Flex group with spin on thread after thread after thread. I'm not saying we are there, I'm saying I'm concerned about it. Just reading the language, the last couple of posts are certainly exploring that territory. I think there are more appropriate venues for that than Flexcoders. Being on-topic does not change the nature of the content. Take the third example. Looking over the body of threads of this group, I can't recall seeing a nice bullet-formatted explanation like the one offered by Scott of why IE does not want to support SVG. I'm not saying this was a copy-paste thing, but it is visually very different. Adobe, Microsoft, and others have plenty of propoganda (or spam) posts, and no one is arguing that point. But I'm not going to pretend this particular content is of the same casual nature of the posts typical members of this group make. Scott uses Microsoft's participation in standards bodies and knowledge of gui research that clearly expresses an authority posture to legitimize his point. The typical posts here are overtly subjective developer opinions taken with a grain of salt. Clearly not the same content. Secondly, this is not a response from a Flex developer, doing Flex stuff every work day. (...imagining Scott with a Flex sticker on his laptop as Steve Ballmer walks by...) This is a corporate-sounding explanation, from actual Microsoft management, on an Adobe Flex group, suggesting we use ribbons in Flex, ignore SVG and thank Microsoft for their h.264 standards compliance. Any part of that sentence not accurate? I'm sure Scott is not programming in Flex, and could not possibly be confused as a member of the Flex community or an objective observer. Therefore, his responses in this group must be viewed in the approriate context, in a truthful light. Clearly not a typical poster. If Flexcoders' threads become an active corporate information outlet for Adobe competitors, I don't think that's a good thing for the group. That is my point, and I think it's a perfectly legitimate one.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Ribbon in FLEX
I want to respectfully challenge some of the statements and characterizations I've been reading. We have some PowerPoint plugin apps that insert into the 2007 ribbon. All our PPT 2007 customers hate the ribbon with a passion. They all say the exact same thing, they can't find anything. The PPT 2003 customers never call customer service on this issue. Isn't that odd? Microsoft's research has not exactly been on point on a lot of things these days, IMO. I also noticed in another thread, Scott Barnes noting Microsoft's efforts in h.264 standards. Remember HD-DVD versus Blu-ray? That was VC-1 versus h.264. Silverlight is now going to support h.264 in the future. Market demanded support is technically support, yes. But the adoption of h.264 over VC-1 was clearly not intended or desired by Microsoft. Mentioning IE and standards compliance is quite lively in the webmaster groups. Not in a good way. More importantly, I have a concern. There is plenty of room in RIA and Microsoft-oriented forums and groups to make their case. I'm even fine with some open debate in Flexcoders. What I don't want to see is Microsoft's Rich Platforms Product Manager, let alone other Microsofties, spamming our Flex group with spin on thread after thread after thread. I'm not saying we are there, I'm saying I'm concerned about it. Just reading the language, the last couple of posts are certainly exploring that territory. I think there are more appropriate venues for that than Flexcoders. From: Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:56:32 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Ribbon in FLEX Eye of the beholder and all..Our research tells us were on point with the end users so far. I'd be curious to listen to some of your own thoughts on where it could be improved, albiet removed and replaced with a better solution? (little-r me so not to interrupt the thread flow). There's many approaches one can take in progressive disclosure, at the end of the day it's one of many patterns one can adopt. In the case presented below, I specificed that should you do opt for the Office Ribbon UI, one should consider the merits of what problems it's solving. It really comes back to your targeted end user, what problems you're looking to solve and how much time and money you're willing to invest in the overall experience. You have a lot of lego pieces in todays RIAs, it's still up to you to assemble and produce a solution that adheres to whatever design principals you feel end users can cope with. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Good point, Its difficult in an application with so many functions though. Take CS4, the tools panel in Photoshop seems to work for trained designers, but when it got introduced into Flash CS4 with the collapsed panels, its difficult to know which icon to click when they're not all familiar. Personally i dont think most web applications should borrow their design from MS Office. Although the UI may be familiar to the user base, a web application can usually be made more simple by restricting functionality related to the task at hand. eg, thermo's HUD. Mobile UX designers seem to do a good job at this. Take the IPhone. I prefer less obvious, more intuitive controls over a cluttered workspace any day. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Gleb Dolgich gleb...@... wrote: Ribbon is not a good UI, IMHO. It comes from Microsoft's idea that every command must have a corresponding icon, which in the past made for some of the most cluttered UIs out there. It's really hard to find what you need in the new Office ribbons, and I would think twice before following this trend. If you feel you need a ribbon in your application, maybe it's time to rethink your UI. -- Gleb Dolgich Twitter: @gbd Web: http://www.pixelespressoapps.com On 30 Mar 2009, at 20:41, Scott Barnes wrote: Just a note. The true power of Ribbon isn't necessarily just a tab/ hbox navigation, it's also about context in that the navigation reacts to elements you may have with your application. Thus producing contextual sensitive additional menu items where the end user invokes sensitive areas. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Thibaud Van Vreckem thibaudm...@... wrote: I know I could do it using tabs and panels, but an existing FLEX version could save me a lot of time. that ribbon design is a perfect example of what flex shines for. it's nothing more than tabs and canvas/Hbox panels. that's probably about 5 sec setup. I'm not sure I understand what you would you need a component for .. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Claudio M. E. Bastos Iorioselecter...@... wrote: Thanks for your answer and links. The silverlight version looks really great. Check this online demo (silverlight
Re: [flexcoders] Flex. AIR and IPhone
Here, here! Doug has it exactly right. Innovation flies in the face of standards, and by its success, can become a kind of standard, even if it's not the standard. Lots of standards become that way after the fact. Even when the success is, well, questionable, it can become a standard after the fact. The NTSC/VC-1 with Microsoft comes to mind. The Blu-Ray/HD-DVD war had as much to do with H.264 vs. VC-1 video standards as it did the actual disc standards. It is easy enough to argue that Microsoft is the great boat anchor of web standards. Fine. I can see lots of business reasons for that. Whether it's open source or Adobe moving ahead anyway, that's another business decision. But innovation is going to happen, just as it always has, with or without a committee standard. That's great news. Will Flash get on the iPhone? Which is a proprietary, non-standard, but-now-a-standard-unto-itself platform? Maybe, maybe not, for techincal and/or business reasons. Is the Flash platform being proprietary bad? No. Is having to learn to program the iPhone SDK bad? No. My point? Don't hold your breath, or waste any breath over committee standards. It's really okay to just enjoy the innovation that is taking place, proprietary or not. It's also okay to develop on more than one platform. - Cole From: Doug McCune d...@dougmccune.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:23:11 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex. AIR and IPhone Apologies for how long this email became, but I was reading around on the trusty wikipedia and wanted to try to clear up some things about the success of the existing web standards. I don't want this to come off as too much of a rant, but it proably will. Let's take a look at the history of CSS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS): CSS level 1: November 4, 1997 CSS level 2: May 12, 1998 CSS level 3: began 1998, still unfinished A brief excerpt: The CSS Working Group began tackling issues that had not been addressed with CSS level 1, resulting in the creation of CSS level 2 on November 4, 1997. It was published as a W3C Recommendation on May 12, 1998. CSS level 3, which was started in 1998, is still under development as of 2008. In 2005 the CSS Working Groups decided to enforce the requirements for standards more strictly. This meant that already published standards like CSS 2.1, CSS 3 Selectors and CSS 3 Text were pulled back from Candidate Recommendation to Working Draft level. And if you really want to have fun look at the half-assed implementation of CSS across the many browsers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(CSS). It's been 10 years since CSS 2 was written (10 years!) and yet there still isn't even consistent implementation of that. And CSS 3 implementation is a joke. Maybe HTML is better, let's look at that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML#Version_history_of_the_standard): HTML 2: 1995 HTML 3.2 recommendation: January, 1997 HTML 4 recommendation: December, 1997 HTML 5 working draft: January 2008 (10 years!) Hmm, maybe we can look at ECMAScript, the standard controlling JavaScript development (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript) ECMAScript 1: June 1997 ECMAScript 2: June 1998 ECMAScript 3: December 1999 Added E4X to ECMAScript: June 2004 ECMAScript 4: scrapped ECMAScript Harmony: in development And now, finally, we'll look at the timeline of Flash/ActionScript: Flash Player 2: 1997 Flash Player 3: 1998 Flash Player 4: May, 1999 Flash Player 5: August 2000 ActionScript 1: September, 2000 Flash Player 6: March 2002 Flash Player 7: September 2003 ActionScript 2: September 2003 Flash Player 8: August 2005 Flah Player 9: June 2006 ActionScript 3: June 2006 Flash Player 10: October 2008 So for literally the past 10 years the standards bodies haven't been able to release a single completed specification. That goes for HTML, CSS, and ECMASCript (the closest would be the draft of the unimplemented HTML 5 that was released a year ago). The entire standards-based web is running on stuff that was written before the dot-com bubble burst! Now look at how Flash has progressed since 1999. That includes the complete evolution of ActionScript all the way from the very first version to the AS3 (including the recent Vector, etc enhancements that come with Player 10). The entire evolution of AS3 occurred after the last ECMAScript spec was written. CSS 3 started development in 1998 and still isn't finished. In that same time period we went from Flash Player 3 to 10. I'm not holding my breath for anything new coming out of these standards groups. 10 years and they can't write a specification. The entire world changes in 10 years. Doug
Re: [flexcoders] Any Developers on a Mac?
What is better or worse is a matter of opinion, I think. I have used FB on Windows and Mac, and it really doesn't matter. I've switched to the Mac, as a developer, fulltime, and I'm having no problems, it's solid. It seems to me that the biggest problems people have are more about which version of the library/player/AIR they are using than FB. I say choose the OS you like, and get Flex, FB or not. You're not getting dinged here. Personally, I'd choose the Mac in a heartbeat. From: Jim Hayes j...@primalpictures.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 4:04:20 AM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Any Developers on a Mac? General platform discussions aside, what is it that makes flexbuilder “slightly worse” on mac than it is in windows? I’m considering trying out a macbook pro as my next laptop (been on windows, sometimes linux, for past ten years or so), butmost of my work is in flexbuilder these days so it would be nice to know. Many thanks! -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh McDonald Sent: 29 December 2008 10:44 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Any Developers on a Mac? Kevlar suit... *check*! It's good. I'm happy with it, many people are. I think it's much better, many people agree. And many *other* people here will call me a big girl for thinking so. Which I find hilarious. But this is a well-abused topic here. Builder is slightly better in Windows. in my opinion everything else is better on Mac :) -Josh On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 8:24 PM, composerguru kbmulvihill@ gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking of converting now that I've dumped Vista... just wondering what your experience might be and if you recommend the change? Thanks in advance, Kevin - - -- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/flexcoders /files/flexcoder sFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share. acrobat.com/ adc/document. do?docid= 942dbdc8- e469-446f- b4cf-1e62079f684 7 Search Archives: http://www.mail- archive.com/ flexcoders% 40yahoogroups. comYahoo! Groups Links -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. Like the cut of my jib? Check out my Flex blog! :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: j...@gfunk007. com :: http://flex. joshmcdonald. info/ :: http://twitter. com/sophistifunk __ This communication is from Primal Pictures Ltd., a company registered in England and Wales with registration No. 02622298 and registered office: 4th Floor, Tennyson House, 159-165 Great Portland Street, London, W1W 5PA, UK. VAT registration No. 648874577. This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact the sender immediately by return e-mail or by telephoning +44(0)20 7637 1010. Please then delete the e-mail and do not disclose its contents to any person. This email has been scanned for Primal Pictures by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __
Re: [flexcoders] Do you use a Mac?
I have made the switch to Mac, and wanted to chime in. I have developed on Windows for most of my career, but I'm moving everything to Mac. I am more than satisfied with FB3 on the Mac. In fact, I've been slowly moving to Mac for practically everything for a year now. Development is better, and overall stress is way down. It's a little different, just like Linux is different. Everything just works, all the time, as far as tools goes. That is my experience anyway. I'm not alone. One by one, my co-workers are running necessary Windows programs from VMWare Fusion, with no complaints. In fact, our office is just buying new Macs. Linux seems to be the fate of all our Windows PCs nowadays, especially if it says Dell. That's working out extremely well also. The bottom line is we are more productive on Macs. Isn't that the point? I am fortunate to have a MacBook Pro, with 4GB and 8MB of L2 cache. So, there's a lot to be said for good hardware and memory. But since this a general Mac statement, I say yes, it's great. Scared of Vista? It's okay, you can say it, we all know. Thinking now's a good time to switch? Definitely consider it. With people scavenging for unused XP licenses, because they are tired of rebuilding Vista, it's good timing. I was fine with XP, but that's not a real choice for the future. Vista is a big step backwards, in our experience. Who knows when a new Windows is coming out. We can't wait a few years for them to get their act together. Macs have never been so good. It's not just the new and shiny, as has been suggested previously. Mac makes a solid case for productivity, now and the next few years. I'm sure Adobe would agree. Right now, I can't image not having a Mac to develop on. -- Cole From: Gustavo Duenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:53:10 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Do you use a Mac? welcome to the mac family :) On Oct 24, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Jatin Nanda wrote: I still use both forms extensively. I have a development PC, which I am slowly de-commissioning and a dell laptop that is primarily used for off-site work. My new development machine is actually a 2Gb 24 iMac (am awaiting delivery of the additional 2Gb). Apart from the big screen, the main reason why i bought this is the lact of wires. It has a single power cable, i have an Ethernet cable an additional DVI cable for a 2nd screen. But no other wires (keyboard and mouse are wireless). Its got a built in cam for video conferencing, and built in speakers. Where my development pc had upto 15 different cables (power, additional monitors, speakers, keyboard mouse) the iMac makes my desk tidier. Oh yes and it looks good too. As a development experience, I am slowly beginning to lean towards the mac. Eclipse does not look as good/polish as it does on a PC. Expose Spaces is very useful. But since I still need a lot of windows apps, which are installed in VMs. I could do with more RAM though Regards, J 2008/10/24 john fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] net yeah, thanks, have that. Its much better than a couple of years ago. Probably plenty good enough for a bushwhacker like me if I just took some time with it. J Guy Morton wrote: Inkscape is a reasonable Illustrator- replacement, and it's free. Gustavo A. Duenas Creative DirectorLEFT AND RIGHT SOLUTIONS 904. 265 0330 - 904. 386 7958 www.leftandrightsolutions.com Jacksonville - Florida
Re: [flexcoders] The end of ActionScript 3 as an EcmaScript 4 implementation
Scott, I'm not exactly on board with Silverlight will continue to have successes as it has today. It's far too early to make that broad a statement. One day, maybe, but today? No. The first real all-Silverlight site, Ice Cube's UVNTV.com, has not been successful. Big fanfare, bad video, losing traffic at the plugin download page, big dud. Second big fanfare is the Silverlight player for video of the Beijing Olympics. Again, video quality has been roundly criticized as awful. Online viewership is way down from what they expected. Today, people don't want to download the Silverlight plugin. That is not a success. Not yet. --Cole --- On Sat, 8/16/08, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The end of ActionScript 3 as an EcmaScript 4 implementation To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 1:30 AM Anatole, I understand there is a sense of umbrage towards Microsoft over this decision; I disagree with some of the wild theories floating around as to what the real motivation behind this is. Seven entities in total disagreed with Mozilla and Adobe that the proposal was a right fit. I however look forward to seeing what the next phase of this standard will become, and overall Silverlight will continue to have successes as it has today, if either decision were to be blessed around this said standard. Silverlight has the DLR, so if folks want to spin-up their own iteration of an ECMA standard of their choosing, you're more than welcome to it and I'd be curious to see how you triumph! HTH. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Anatole Tartakovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, I hope you realize that this goes beyond Silverlight or any particular player - but to the heart of the browsers problems today - performance and robustness. If it was not for IE market share, ActionScript would of been de-facto ES4 standard as it is supported by Mozilla and would be quickly migrated to other OS browsers. And I have very low expectations of Microsoft willingness to maintain IE on par with performance, compatibility and robustness requirements - based on personal experience. The fact that this standard is blocked means war - and I would suggest as the first step for the community to create a plugin script implementation ( recognized as attribute on script tag, loaded along with Flash for faster market penetration) to give developers a choice between old javascript and actionscript - that can remove most of the power Microsoft exercised last week Sincerely, Anatole Tartakovsky On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In what way is Silverlight proposing a new standard? ECMA decision has no affect on Silverlight. C# for example is a standard today, everything we are doing or using either adheres to a standard, furthemore XAML for example falls under our (Open Specification Promise) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Specification_Promise. The DLR was introduced to allow dynamic languages outside the mainstream the ability to enter the RIA space, without imposing restrictions or ensuring they must abide by C# or ActionScript to get access? I would of thought this is an obvious positive for RIA overall (Adobe's Ryan Stewart agrees - http://blogs.zdnet.com/Stewart/?p=356). Microsoft and several other folks (Yahoo!, DOJO etc) all agreed that this wasn't the right fit, but are all committed to ensure we find a right fit. *shrug*.. so lumping this entirely in Microsoft's lap is a little skewed in thinking. HTH. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Cole Joplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Thu, 8/14/08, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C# is an ECMA-334 standard. As to how this affects Silverlight? Cole, could you elaborate? Sure. Microsoft wants a new standard for web scripting using Silverlight's RIA framework via .NET and the Dynamic Language Runtime. They want to bring support for IronPython and IronRuby to web scripting. Some see that as a Microsoft technology lock-in. Just like some saw ES4 as an Adobe lock-in (or at least a validation of it). ECMA-334 was precisely about Microsoft making C# a standard. It's a standard, but not the standard. It's an off-shoot. So, perhaps it is best that history just repeats itself. Let them create a separate ECMA standard for Microsoft/Silverlight, and another for Adobe/Flash. Let's whip out some ECMA-402, and ECMA-402 -- pick a number. My point was that this was not going to get resolved in ES4, where one idea was going to get picked over the other. Standards promote commonality and adoption. Those things can translate into competitive advantage. Microsoft was not going to let Adobe have ES4 as the standard. It was too much of an advantage. --Cole -- Regards, Scott Barnes Rich Client Platform Manager Microsoft. http://blogs.msdn.com
Re: [flexcoders] The end of ActionScript 3 as an EcmaScript 4 implementation
--- On Thu, 8/14/08, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C# is an ECMA-334 standard. As to how this affects Silverlight? Cole, could you elaborate? Sure. Microsoft wants a new standard for web scripting using Silverlight's RIA framework via .NET and the Dynamic Language Runtime. They want to bring support for IronPython and IronRuby to web scripting. Some see that as a Microsoft technology lock-in. Just like some saw ES4 as an Adobe lock-in (or at least a validation of it). ECMA-334 was precisely about Microsoft making C# a standard. It's a standard, but not the standard. It's an off-shoot. So, perhaps it is best that history just repeats itself. Let them create a separate ECMA standard for Microsoft/Silverlight, and another for Adobe/Flash. Let's whip out some ECMA-402, and ECMA-402 -- pick a number. My point was that this was not going to get resolved in ES4, where one idea was going to get picked over the other. Standards promote commonality and adoption. Those things can translate into competitive advantage. Microsoft was not going to let Adobe have ES4 as the standard. It was too much of an advantage. --Cole
Re: [flexcoders] The end of ActionScript 3 as an EcmaScript 4 implementation
I think what happened was inevitable. This is not an isolated incident. Microsoft is holding up the standards committees they are on. It's just the reality. We can all be honest about it. Microsoft just refused, which is what they are doing everywhere. The reason I call it a black eye is because adobe spent a lot of time hanging their hat on the idea that this was going to be a standard. I agree. It's okay for Adobe to let go. It was a bridge too far. There's no shame to it. It's over. Continue on. Adobe wanted the industry to move one way, and Microsoft forced it to move another way. Not exactly. Microsoft lost all its Silverlight and JScript initiatives in this decision. Adobe and Microsoft both lost what they wanted. The rest of the committee members decided they were getting nowhere, so they stopped it, and they were totally right. In fact, I expect this scenario to continue in other committees. HTML5. CSS3. I don't think Microsoft could deliver standards progress even if they deeply wanted to. After being an isolated impediment for so long, it's only a matter of time before everyone else gives up on them. There is a limit, and I think we're reaching it now. That's a good thing. You know the funny part to all this? Having Microsoft in a standards committee called Harmony is the ultimate oxymoron. This is in Oslo, so I submit they should call the committee something more appropriate like Fjord or Loki. --Cole
Re: [flexcoders] Flex SEO
I recommend reading AdvancED Flex Applifcation Development (http://www.amazon.com/AdvancED-Flex-Application-Development-Building/dp/1590598962/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1202745879sr=8-1). Chapter 17 is all about about SEO and Flex, and has some great details. I strongly recommend using the Sitemaps Protocol for any website needing SEO, and they explain how to do this in Flex. -- Cole --- On Thu, 7/10/08, litesh_b321 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: litesh_b321 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [flexcoders] Flex SEO To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 5:52 AM hi guys, how we can get index of google for a web site which is developed in adobe flex? Is there any special technique to optimise the search engine for flex developed web site? ThanX -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Re: How to detect if hardware scaling is disabled?
Call Stage.displayState, which returns a string: fullscreen or normal -- Cole - Original Message From: tuomas.glad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:58:37 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: How to detect if hardware scaling is disabled? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, tuomas.glad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anyway to detect is hardware scaling is enabled/disabled? I'm getting weird results if I disable hardware scaling from player preferences and try to go to fullscreen mode. Thanks, Tuomas I forgot to mention that I'm using Stage.fullScreenSourceRect. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
