Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X
Title: Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X Matt, Im actually surprised as this implies specific coding for the browser... I know IE doesnt have this effect and camino (under OSX) appears to run fine. Oh by the way, this is also true for the debugger too (Flash 9 r16 which by the way hasnt been updated to the same level as the one posted on Adobe last week) under OSX. BTW thanks for checking much appreciated for the feedback Regards Samuel On 15/8/06 01:13, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the Player team the Player slow-down when sending Safari to the background is actually intentional. The browser actually reduces the number of CPU cycles dedicated to plugins in a browser when it doesnt have focus. Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel Colak Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:31 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X Matt, im working with the Eclipse group (former IBM team) and wondered if there was a bug tracker internally to adobe on what issues etc exist at the moment and how i can submit issues. In particular, i noticed alot of issues around flex binding to the help system and trying to link into the dynamic environment. Additionally, you might like to know that working with eclipse under windows has an issue that whilst building a project with a flash-9 movie running in the background, results in serious cpu performance issues resulting in a longer build time despite the flash window not having focus. Finally, if no-one noticed, adobe released the intel binary of flash 9, although its really unclear what is different in this release to 9.0 r16 one thing is very noticable is that whilst running in Safari or any other browser, when you lose focus on the browser window to something other, that the flash animation performance drops considerably. Im not sure if this is the place to post these kind of posts - if not could someone indicate if adobe themselves are recording these issues at Labs or at the tech forum. Regards Samuel On 13 Aug 2006, at 21:24, Matt Chotin wrote: Sorry, fixed internally (and still being fixed). Supported platforms as mentioned in our release notes and whatnot still holds. Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:22 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X On 8/13/06, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flex Builder definitely had some probs in 3.2 but it doesn't mean it won't run at all. Oh, thats good to know. My impression based on other statements that I had heard here was that critical things did not work with 3.2. You say had, does that mean that the problems were fixed? And is eclipse 2.3 a safe bet. Hank However we do need 3.2 support for the Mac release to work. We are building it right now and as mentioned hope to get it out before the end of the year (though the release date is not announced). Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:11 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X On 8/13/06, Samuel Colak [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Eclipse does run under Mac OSX - it was because version 3.2 had issues under MacOSX that adobe didnt port Flex at the same time as the windows release - now this has occurred, it strikes me as a little odd that there isnt a mac version announced. Hmm... Not sure where you're getting your info from. FlexBuilder doesnt even run under 3.2 under windows, so I doubt the issues had anything to do with 3.2. And adobe has said on this forum that there were issues in porting to the mac so they decided to push and get windows out rather than delaying. While on the surface mac and windows clips are fairly compatible, there are differences and apparently some of what flexBuilder is doing relies on one or some of those features that either dont work or are not implemented in mac. Adobe has said that there will be a mac version and if I am not mistaken the timeframe was estimated at some time towards the end of the year (oct or nov) if I remember right. But in any case its software so who knows. But in any case they have said they are hard at work on it. Regards Hank As for the extensions - yes you are right in some respects. The compiler is the only bite-code dependant product specific to the OS but you could hash something using the sdk for the mac. Regards Samuel PS. No i havent done it ;( On 13 Aug 2006, at 13:53, tomkrcha wrote: Hi, does anybody already tried to run
Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X
On 8/15/06, Samuel D. Colak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, Im actually surprised as this implies specific coding for the browser... I know IE doesn't have this effect and camino (under OSX) appears to run fine. I think that you may be misunderstanding what Matt said. He said that, The browser actually reduces the number of CPU cycles dedicated to plugins in a browser when it doesn't have focus. I believe he is saying that this is a Safari behavior which is independent of the Flash player.Adam __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X
Title: Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X Oops yep you are right my apologies Matt and Adam (and ze group!) Regards Samuel On 15/8/06 16:21, Adam Dorritie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/15/06, Samuel D. Colak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, Im actually surprised as this implies specific coding for the browser... I know IE doesn't have this effect and camino (under OSX) appears to run fine. I think that you may be misunderstanding what Matt said. He said that, The browser actually reduces the number of CPU cycles dedicated to plugins in a browser when it doesn't have focus. I believe he is saying that this is a Safari behavior which is independent of the Flash player. Adam __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X
Hi, does anybody already tried to run Eclipse under Mac OS X? Is that possible? And what about Flex? Because, all eclipse extensions are in Java, so is it possible to run Flex plugin for Eclipse under Mac OS X? Thanks Tom -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X
Yes, Eclipse does run under Mac OSX - it was because version 3.2 had issues under MacOSX that adobe didnt port Flex at the same time as the windows release - now this has occurred, it strikes me as a little odd that there isnt a mac version announced.As for the extensions - yes you are right in some respects. The compiler is the only bite-code dependant product specific to the OS but you could hash something using the sdk for the mac.RegardsSamuelPS. No i havent done it ;(On 13 Aug 2006, at 13:53, tomkrcha wrote:Hi,does anybody already tried to run Eclipse under Mac OS X? Is thatpossible? And what about Flex? Because, all eclipse extensions are inJava, so is it possible to run Flex plugin for Eclipse under Mac OS X?ThanksTom __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X
On 8/13/06, Samuel Colak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Eclipse does run under Mac OSX - it was because version 3.2 had issues under MacOSX that adobe didnt port Flex at the same time as the windows release - now this has occurred, it strikes me as a little odd that there isnt a mac version announced. Hmm...Not sure where you're getting your info from.FlexBuilder doesnt even run under 3.2 under windows, so I doubt the issues had anything to do with 3.2. And adobe has said on this forum that there were issues in porting to the mac so they decided to push and get windows out rather than delaying. While on the surface mac and windows clips are fairly compatible, there are differences and apparently some of what flexBuilder is doing relies on one or some of those features that either dont work or are not implemented in mac. Adobe has said that there will be a mac version and if I am not mistaken the timeframe was estimated at some time towards the end of the year (oct or nov) if I remember right. But in any case its software so who knows. But in any case they have said they are hard at work on it. RegardsHankAs for the extensions - yes you are right in some respects. The compiler is the only bite-code dependant product specific to the OS but you could hash something using the sdk for the mac. RegardsSamuelPS. No i havent done it ;(On 13 Aug 2006, at 13:53, tomkrcha wrote: Hi, does anybody already tried to run Eclipse under Mac OS X? Is that possible? And what about Flex? Because, all eclipse extensions are inJava, so is it possible to run Flex plugin for Eclipse under Mac OS X? Thanks Tom __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X
Flex does run under Eclipse 3.2 - i can post screen shots ;)On 13 Aug 2006, at 16:11, hank williams wrote:On 8/13/06, Samuel Colak [EMAIL PROTECTED]at-home.com wrote:Yes, Eclipse does run under Mac OSX - it was because version 3.2 had issues under MacOSX that adobe didnt port Flex at the same time as the windows release - now this has occurred, it strikes me as a little odd that there isnt a mac version announced.Hmm...Not sure where you're getting your info from.FlexBuilder doesnt even run under 3.2 under windows, so I doubt the issues had anything to do with 3.2. And adobe has said on this forum that there were issues in porting to the mac so they decided to push and get windows out rather than delaying. While on the surface mac and windows clips are fairly compatible, there are differences and apparently some of what flexBuilder is doing relies on one or some of those features that either dont work or are not implemented in mac. Adobe has said that there will be a mac version and if I am not mistaken the timeframe was estimated at some time towards the end of the year (oct or nov) if I remember right. But in any case its software so who knows. But in any case they have said they are hard at work on it. RegardsHank As for the extensions - yes you are right in some respects. The compiler is the only bite-code dependant product specific to the OS but you could hash something using the sdk for the mac.RegardsSamuelPS. No i havent done it ;(On 13 Aug 2006, at 13:53, tomkrcha wrote:Hi,does anybody already tried to run Eclipse under Mac OS X? Is thatpossible? And what about Flex? Because, all eclipse extensions are inJava, so is it possible to run Flex plugin for Eclipse under Mac OS X? Thanks Tom __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
RE: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X
Flex Builder definitely had some probs in 3.2 but it doesnt mean it wont run at all. However we do need 3.2 support for the Mac release to work. We are building it right now and as mentioned hope to get it out before the end of the year (though the release date is not announced). Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:11 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X On 8/13/06, Samuel Colak [EMAIL PROTECTED]at-home.com wrote: Yes, Eclipse does run under Mac OSX - it was because version 3.2 had issues under MacOSX that adobe didnt port Flex at the same time as the windows release - now this has occurred, it strikes me as a little odd that there isnt a mac version announced. Hmm... Not sure where you're getting your info from. FlexBuilder doesnt even run under 3.2 under windows, so I doubt the issues had anything to do with 3.2. And adobe has said on this forum that there were issues in porting to the mac so they decided to push and get windows out rather than delaying. While on the surface mac and windows clips are fairly compatible, there are differences and apparently some of what flexBuilder is doing relies on one or some of those features that either dont work or are not implemented in mac. Adobe has said that there will be a mac version and if I am not mistaken the timeframe was estimated at some time towards the end of the year (oct or nov) if I remember right. But in any case its software so who knows. But in any case they have said they are hard at work on it. Regards Hank As for the extensions - yes you are right in some respects. The compiler is the only bite-code dependant product specific to the OS but you could hash something using the sdk for the mac. Regards Samuel PS. No i havent done it ;( On 13 Aug 2006, at 13:53, tomkrcha wrote: Hi, does anybody already tried to run Eclipse under Mac OS X? Is that possible? And what about Flex? Because, all eclipse extensions are in Java, so is it possible to run Flex plugin for Eclipse under Mac OS X? Thanks Tom __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X
On 8/13/06, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flex Builder definitely had some probs in 3.2 but it doesn't mean it won't run at all.Oh, thats good to know. My impression based on other statements that I had heard here was that critical things did not work with 3.2. You say had, does that mean that the problems were fixed? And is eclipse 2.3 a safe bet.Hank However we do need 3.2 support for the Mac release to work. We are building it right now and as mentioned hope to get it out before the end of the year (though the release date is not announced). Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:11 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X On 8/13/06, Samuel Colak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Eclipse does run under Mac OSX - it was because version 3.2 had issues under MacOSX that adobe didnt port Flex at the same time as the windows release - now this has occurred, it strikes me as a little odd that there isnt a mac version announced. Hmm... Not sure where you're getting your info from. FlexBuilder doesnt even run under 3.2 under windows, so I doubt the issues had anything to do with 3.2. And adobe has said on this forum that there were issues in porting to the mac so they decided to push and get windows out rather than delaying. While on the surface mac and windows clips are fairly compatible, there are differences and apparently some of what flexBuilder is doing relies on one or some of those features that either dont work or are not implemented in mac. Adobe has said that there will be a mac version and if I am not mistaken the timeframe was estimated at some time towards the end of the year (oct or nov) if I remember right. But in any case its software so who knows. But in any case they have said they are hard at work on it. Regards Hank As for the extensions - yes you are right in some respects. The compiler is the only bite-code dependant product specific to the OS but you could hash something using the sdk for the mac. Regards Samuel PS. No i havent done it ;( On 13 Aug 2006, at 13:53, tomkrcha wrote: Hi, does anybody already tried to run Eclipse under Mac OS X? Is that possible? And what about Flex? Because, all eclipse extensions are in Java, so is it possible to run Flex plugin for Eclipse under Mac OS X? Thanks Tom __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
RE: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X
Sorry, fixed internally (and still being fixed). Supported platforms as mentioned in our release notes and whatnot still holds. Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:22 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X On 8/13/06, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote: Flex Builder definitely had some probs in 3.2 but it doesn't mean it won't run at all. Oh, thats good to know. My impression based on other statements that I had heard here was that critical things did not work with 3.2. You say had, does that mean that the problems were fixed? And is eclipse 2.3 a safe bet. Hank However we do need 3.2 support for the Mac release to work. We are building it right now and as mentioned hope to get it out before the end of the year (though the release date is not announced). Matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X On 8/13/06, Samuel Colak [EMAIL PROTECTED]at-home.com wrote: Yes, Eclipse does run under Mac OSX - it was because version 3.2 had issues under MacOSX that adobe didnt port Flex at the same time as the windows release - now this has occurred, it strikes me as a little odd that there isnt a mac version announced. Hmm... Not sure where you're getting your info from. FlexBuilder doesnt even run under 3.2 under windows, so I doubt the issues had anything to do with 3.2. And adobe has said on this forum that there were issues in porting to the mac so they decided to push and get windows out rather than delaying. While on the surface mac and windows clips are fairly compatible, there are differences and apparently some of what flexBuilder is doing relies on one or some of those features that either dont work or are not implemented in mac. Adobe has said that there will be a mac version and if I am not mistaken the timeframe was estimated at some time towards the end of the year (oct or nov) if I remember right. But in any case its software so who knows. But in any case they have said they are hard at work on it. Regards Hank As for the extensions - yes you are right in some respects. The compiler is the only bite-code dependant product specific to the OS but you could hash something using the sdk for the mac. Regards Samuel PS. No i havent done it ;( On 13 Aug 2006, at 13:53, tomkrcha wrote: Hi, does anybody already tried to run Eclipse under Mac OS X? Is that possible? And what about Flex? Because, all eclipse extensions are in Java, so is it possible to run Flex plugin for Eclipse under Mac OS X? Thanks Tom __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X
Matt,im working with the Eclipse group (former IBM team) and wondered if there was a bug tracker internally to adobe on what issues etc exist at the moment and how i can submit issues. In particular, i noticed alot of issues around flex binding to the help system and trying to link into the dynamic environment. Additionally, you might like to know that working with eclipse under windows has an issue that whilst building a project with a flash-9 movie running in the background, results in serious cpu performance issues resulting in a longer build time despite the flash window not having focus.Finally, if no-one noticed, adobe released the intel binary of flash 9, although its really unclear what is different in this release to 9.0 r16 one thing is very noticable is that whilst running in Safari or any other browser, when you lose focus on the browser window to something other, that the flash animation performance drops considerably.Im not sure if this is the place to post these kind of posts - if not could someone indicate if adobe themselves are recording these issues at Labs or at the tech forum.RegardsSamuelOn 13 Aug 2006, at 21:24, Matt Chotin wrote:Sorry, fixed internally (and still being fixed). Supported platforms as mentioned in our release notes and whatnot still holds. Matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] On Behalf Of hank williamsSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:22 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X On 8/13/06, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:Flex Builder definitely had some probs in 3.2 but it doesn't mean it won't run at all.Oh, thats good to know. My impression based on other statements that I had heard here was that critical things did not work with 3.2. You say "had", does that mean that the problems were fixed? And is eclipse 2.3 a safe bet.Hank However we do need 3.2 support for the Mac release to work. We are building it right now and as mentioned hope to get it out before the end of the year (though the release date is not announced). Matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] On Behalf Of hank williamsSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:11 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex / Eclipse under Mac OS X On 8/13/06, Samuel Colak [EMAIL PROTECTED]at-home.com wrote: Yes, Eclipse does run under Mac OSX - it was because version 3.2 had issues under MacOSX that adobe didnt port Flex at the same time as the windows release - now this has occurred, it strikes me as a little odd that there isnt a mac version announced.Hmm...Not sure where you're getting your info from.FlexBuilder doesnt even run under 3.2 under windows, so I doubt the issues had anything to do with 3.2. And adobe has said on this forum that there were issues in porting to the mac so they decided to push and get windows out rather than delaying. While on the surface mac and windows clips are fairly compatible, there are differences and apparently some of what flexBuilder is doing relies on one or some of those features that either dont work or are not implemented in mac. Adobe has said that there will be a mac version and if I am not mistaken the timeframe was estimated at some time towards the end of the year (oct or nov) if I remember right. But in any case its software so who knows. But in any case they have said they are hard at work on it. RegardsHank As for the extensions - yes you are right in some respects. The compiler is the only bite-code dependant product specific to the OS but you could hash something using the sdk for the mac. RegardsSamuel PS. No i havent done it ;( On 13 Aug 2006, at 13:53, tomkrcha wrote: Hi,does anybody already tried to run Eclipse under Mac OS X? Is thatpossible? And what about Flex? Because, all eclipse extensions are inJava, so is it possible to run Flex plugin for Eclipse under Mac OS X? Thanks Tom __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
