RE: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect
I wonder if MM will ever allow us to do new MovieClip instead of createEmptyMovieClip etc.. The Flash team is investigating this. I hope MovieClips can become more normal. - Gordon -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:54 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect hmm thanks for that gordon, I wonder if MM will ever allow us to do new MovieClip instead of createEmptyMovieClip etc.. i've seen some MovieClip.prototype workarounds for this but *sigh* ... anyway thanks for the info! :) On 4/13/05, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say that the most important differences between a MovieClip and a plain Object are the following: 1. A MovieClip has all kinds of properties (_x, _width, _visible, etc.) and methods (attachMovie(), loadMovie(), etc.) that an Object doesn't. 2. A MovieClip can't be created with the 'new' operator, but an Object can. 3. A MovieClip is a visual object that is connected to the player's rendering engine. When you change a property of a MovieClip, the player automatically re-renders it when moving to the next frame; you don't have to call redraw() or update() to make this happen. An Object has nothing to do with the renderer. 4. Certain methods of a MovieClip -- onPress(), onRelease(), etc. -- are automatically called by the Player in response to various user actions. 5. A MovieClip can be destroyed with removeMovieClip() (I think), while an Object is simply garbage-collected. 6. MovieClip is a Flash-specific class, while Object is a class of the standard EcmaScript language. - Gordon -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:44 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect Yup, sorry I knew all that anyway (I'm a vetran Flash MX 2004 monkey hehe) i was more looking for info on MovieClip vs Object under the hood. Haven't you all wondered or pondered as to what the significant difference between the two are? A MovieClip extends Object but what changes or difference does it actually do to an Object, i ask this more out of courisity :) Sorry I should of asked that more directly heh :P Scott. On 4/13/05, Manish Jethani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/12/05, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, probably outside the scope of this thread but whats the difference between a MovieClip and an Object (ie technically, i know MovieClip adds timeline to the equation etc.. but how is a MovieClip Constructed vs a plain object) An object is an ActionScript object. Object is the name of the topmost class in the ActionScript class heirarchy. Every object is an Object. MovieClip in ActionScript is the class that represents movie clips. All Flex UI components are movie clips. Class mx.core.UIObject extends MovieClip. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://manish.revise.org/ Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect
Ok Mr Matt, Got another one for you (or anyone else) Say I have the need to create a MXML component for the sake of making life easier by allowing access to mx:Tag based approach (aswell as script). if i do something like this: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? mxCore:View xmlns=mx.core.* xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml; initialize=doSomething() mx:RemoteObject id=testItem endpoint=http://..; source=.. mx:method name=getTestMethod showBusyCursor=true result=toFunc(event)/ /mx:RemoteObject OR *grin* mx:Effect // insert your MXML effects here and use them outside this file via index.mxml (ie var tmp = this.createObjectClass(yourpath.to.yourmxmlfile,name); tmp[testItem].getTestMethod(); // will invoke the RemoteObject within the mxml movieclip. /mx:Effect /mxCore:View In theory this should give me the smallest footprint in terms of memory/bandwidth usage, in that I know it sux to create a container for the sake of having a container, but if the need arises this *above* seems to me as being the optimal choice? Purpose: By doing this, you can use a MXML tag-based approach to building a CLASS (aka MovieClip) instead of ActionScript 2.0 approach? I tried mx:MovieClip and other undocumented tags but seems mx:View is the only one that will work - is that because of the childDescriptors? ie in order to access a movieclips property FLEX requires that logic to be there in order to call on it for various routines? Also, probably outside the scope of this thread but whats the difference between a MovieClip and an Object (ie technically, i know MovieClip adds timeline to the equation etc.. but how is a MovieClip Constructed vs a plain object) O.o Scott. On Apr 12, 2005 2:05 PM, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aye thanks matt. On Apr 12, 2005 2:00 PM, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, in 1.x the mx:Effect tag has special compiler logic that makes it impossible for it to live on its own. AS is the only way to get it standalone. Matt From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:58 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect Dumb question but i'll ask none the same (in case its not) You can't use mx:Effect xlmns=http://www.macromedia.com...etc; as a top level tag for a mxml component can you? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect
Ooops index.mxml (ie var tmp = this.createObjectClass(yourpath.to.yourmxmlfile,name); tmp[testItem].getTestMethod(); // will invoke the RemoteObject within the mxml movieclip. - should be inside its own mx:Script tag etc. On Apr 12, 2005 4:29 PM, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Mr Matt, Got another one for you (or anyone else) Say I have the need to create a MXML component for the sake of making life easier by allowing access to mx:Tag based approach (aswell as script). if i do something like this: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? mxCore:View xmlns=mx.core.* xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml; initialize=doSomething() mx:RemoteObject id=testItem endpoint=http://..; source=.. mx:method name=getTestMethod showBusyCursor=true result=toFunc(event)/ /mx:RemoteObject OR *grin* mx:Effect // insert your MXML effects here and use them outside this file via index.mxml (ie var tmp = this.createObjectClass(yourpath.to.yourmxmlfile,name); tmp[testItem].getTestMethod(); // will invoke the RemoteObject within the mxml movieclip. /mx:Effect /mxCore:View In theory this should give me the smallest footprint in terms of memory/bandwidth usage, in that I know it sux to create a container for the sake of having a container, but if the need arises this *above* seems to me as being the optimal choice? Purpose: By doing this, you can use a MXML tag-based approach to building a CLASS (aka MovieClip) instead of ActionScript 2.0 approach? I tried mx:MovieClip and other undocumented tags but seems mx:View is the only one that will work - is that because of the childDescriptors? ie in order to access a movieclips property FLEX requires that logic to be there in order to call on it for various routines? Also, probably outside the scope of this thread but whats the difference between a MovieClip and an Object (ie technically, i know MovieClip adds timeline to the equation etc.. but how is a MovieClip Constructed vs a plain object) O.o Scott. On Apr 12, 2005 2:05 PM, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aye thanks matt. On Apr 12, 2005 2:00 PM, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, in 1.x the mx:Effect tag has special compiler logic that makes it impossible for it to live on its own. AS is the only way to get it standalone. Matt From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:58 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect Dumb question but i'll ask none the same (in case its not) You can't use mx:Effect xlmns=http://www.macromedia.com...etc; as a top level tag for a mxml component can you? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect
On 4/12/05, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, probably outside the scope of this thread but whats the difference between a MovieClip and an Object (ie technically, i know MovieClip adds timeline to the equation etc.. but how is a MovieClip Constructed vs a plain object) An object is an ActionScript object. Object is the name of the topmost class in the ActionScript class heirarchy. Every object is an Object. MovieClip in ActionScript is the class that represents movie clips. All Flex UI components are movie clips. Class mx.core.UIObject extends MovieClip. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://manish.revise.org/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect
I'd say that the most important differences between a MovieClip and a plain Object are the following: 1. A MovieClip has all kinds of properties (_x, _width, _visible, etc.) and methods (attachMovie(), loadMovie(), etc.) that an Object doesn't. 2. A MovieClip can't be created with the 'new' operator, but an Object can. 3. A MovieClip is a visual object that is connected to the player's rendering engine. When you change a property of a MovieClip, the player automatically re-renders it when moving to the next frame; you don't have to call redraw() or update() to make this happen. An Object has nothing to do with the renderer. 4. Certain methods of a MovieClip -- onPress(), onRelease(), etc. -- are automatically called by the Player in response to various user actions. 5. A MovieClip can be destroyed with removeMovieClip() (I think), while an Object is simply garbage-collected. 6. MovieClip is a Flash-specific class, while Object is a class of the standard EcmaScript language. - Gordon -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:44 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect Yup, sorry I knew all that anyway (I'm a vetran Flash MX 2004 monkey hehe) i was more looking for info on MovieClip vs Object under the hood. Haven't you all wondered or pondered as to what the significant difference between the two are? A MovieClip extends Object but what changes or difference does it actually do to an Object, i ask this more out of courisity :) Sorry I should of asked that more directly heh :P Scott. On 4/13/05, Manish Jethani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/12/05, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, probably outside the scope of this thread but whats the difference between a MovieClip and an Object (ie technically, i know MovieClip adds timeline to the equation etc.. but how is a MovieClip Constructed vs a plain object) An object is an ActionScript object. Object is the name of the topmost class in the ActionScript class heirarchy. Every object is an Object. MovieClip in ActionScript is the class that represents movie clips. All Flex UI components are movie clips. Class mx.core.UIObject extends MovieClip. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://manish.revise.org/ Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect
hmm thanks for that gordon, I wonder if MM will ever allow us to do new MovieClip instead of createEmptyMovieClip etc.. i've seen some MovieClip.prototype workarounds for this but *sigh* ... anyway thanks for the info! :) On 4/13/05, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say that the most important differences between a MovieClip and a plain Object are the following: 1. A MovieClip has all kinds of properties (_x, _width, _visible, etc.) and methods (attachMovie(), loadMovie(), etc.) that an Object doesn't. 2. A MovieClip can't be created with the 'new' operator, but an Object can. 3. A MovieClip is a visual object that is connected to the player's rendering engine. When you change a property of a MovieClip, the player automatically re-renders it when moving to the next frame; you don't have to call redraw() or update() to make this happen. An Object has nothing to do with the renderer. 4. Certain methods of a MovieClip -- onPress(), onRelease(), etc. -- are automatically called by the Player in response to various user actions. 5. A MovieClip can be destroyed with removeMovieClip() (I think), while an Object is simply garbage-collected. 6. MovieClip is a Flash-specific class, while Object is a class of the standard EcmaScript language. - Gordon -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:44 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect Yup, sorry I knew all that anyway (I'm a vetran Flash MX 2004 monkey hehe) i was more looking for info on MovieClip vs Object under the hood. Haven't you all wondered or pondered as to what the significant difference between the two are? A MovieClip extends Object but what changes or difference does it actually do to an Object, i ask this more out of courisity :) Sorry I should of asked that more directly heh :P Scott. On 4/13/05, Manish Jethani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/12/05, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, probably outside the scope of this thread but whats the difference between a MovieClip and an Object (ie technically, i know MovieClip adds timeline to the equation etc.. but how is a MovieClip Constructed vs a plain object) An object is an ActionScript object. Object is the name of the topmost class in the ActionScript class heirarchy. Every object is an Object. MovieClip in ActionScript is the class that represents movie clips. All Flex UI components are movie clips. Class mx.core.UIObject extends MovieClip. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://manish.revise.org/ Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect
Nope, in 1.x the mx:Effect tag has special compiler logic that makes it impossible for it to live on its own. AS is the only way to get it standalone. Matt From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:58 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect Dumb question but i'll ask none the same (in case its not) You can't use mx:Effect xlmns=http://www.macromedia.com...etc as a top level tag for a mxml component can you? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect
aye thanks matt. On Apr 12, 2005 2:00 PM, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, in 1.x the mx:Effect tag has special compiler logic that makes it impossible for it to live on its own. AS is the only way to get it standalone. Matt From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:58 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] MXML Components and using mx:Effect Dumb question but i'll ask none the same (in case its not) You can't use mx:Effect xlmns=http://www.macromedia.com...etc; as a top level tag for a mxml component can you? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
