Re: [Flexradio] Speaking of High Tech
At 07:09 PM 10/9/2007, Harold Aaron wrote: >Tim, does the 5000A have a sufficiently short turn-around time to allow >scanning at 5 CH/Sec? I know this was an issue with a lot of radios. I use >MARS ALE with my PRO III, no problem, but have not used PC-ALE. Until the >Flex can talk to a TNC, PACTOR and MARS-Winlink cannot be used. The Flex CAN talk to a TNC.. Just requires audio cables. Nothing special.. from that standpoint, it's just another (superior) radio. Jim, W6RMK ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Amazing 5000a audio last night
Last night I heard the best audio I've ever heard >From NU6X on his 5000A. It had a realistic presence without pressure Or processing or obvious eq'ing. Amazing. Really stood out! Nice going guys! Dave N4DAG ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] searching the mailing list
Is there a way to search the archives? (aside from downloading all the gziped text, and having a grepfest) James Lux, P.E. Spacecraft Radio Frequency Subsystems Group Flight Communications Systems Section Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Mail Stop 161-213 4800 Oak Grove Drive Pasadena CA 91109 tel: (818)354-2075 fax: (818)393-6875 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Multi-port CAT access
Hi guys I have written a program called virtuallY that simulates a y cable via software. Originally made to allow my Steppir controller to share the cat information from PowerSDR, it can basically output 2 serial ports from the cat port, each operating at a difference steep. My Steppir controller can only handle 2400 baud correctly, but I have been able to run powerSDR at 57600. talking to HRD at 57600 while sending the cat information at 2400 baud to the controller. It needs virtual comport pairs, a la N8VBs program, Eltimas, or whatever. Either of the two output ports can be physical if you wish. Any interested in trying it? 73 Neal k3nc ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Speaking of High Tech
I am not necessary looking to talk to another D-Star or AOR product, but to another SDR, be it a SDR1000 or a Flex5000. However, shall it be that with all of this High Tech, if it allows it to communicate to D-Star or AOR, then so be it! Still looking into WinDRM and Ale. Also, more then one radio or persons are needed! Thanks! Ken K3YI Jim Lux wrote: > At 04:47 PM 10/9/2007, Tim Ellison wrote: >> Look into PC-ALE. It natively supports the PowerSDR CAT commands. > > But PC-ALE just does link establishment and digital messaging.. it > doesn't do digital voice (at least not interoperable with the AOR or > Dstar products) > > Jim, W6RMK > > ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Speaking of High Tech
At 04:47 PM 10/9/2007, Tim Ellison wrote: >Look into PC-ALE. It natively supports the PowerSDR CAT commands. But PC-ALE just does link establishment and digital messaging.. it doesn't do digital voice (at least not interoperable with the AOR or Dstar products) Jim, W6RMK ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Definition of F5K control interface, MIDI, FWC class, API?
I've been looking at FWC.cs to understand how PowerSDR talks to the
F5K, with the overall goal of creating a abstracted definition of the
F5K hardware box. It looks like the control interaction (e.g. to set
the DDS frequency) is done by sending an appropriately formatted MIDI
message to the F5K. The question I have is whether the mapping of
messages to functions is described anywhere.
I started this process by picking something fairly simple.. how does
the F5K DDS frequency get changed. In console.cs there's a fairly
obvious object FWCDDSFreq
which does this:
case Model.FLEX5000:
FWC.SetRX1Freq((float)TW2Freq(sr_tw)*(float)(500.0/fwc_corrected_dds_clock));
break;
Down in FWC, we find that SetRX1Freq does the following:
FWCMidi.SendSetMessage(Opcode.RDAL_OP_SET_RX1_FREQ, freq, 0);
and, of course FWCMidi has some MIDI wrapper functions to do things
like send messages of one kind or another.
FWC defines all the MIDI opcodes in a big ENUM (presumably, the
firmware in the F5K and the list in FWC have to be consistent with
each other?). Is there some sort of hash or checksum to validate
this? (i.e. a opcode table version number?)
Are all the MIDI messages defined somewhere, with their parameters.
i.e. what's the units for the float frequency being sent.. Hz? MHz?
(It kind of looks like MHz from the code in console.cs)
If I wanted to write my own software to talk to the F5K, what's the
appropriate level to be talking to it?
At the MIDI messages layer(that would be an obvious abstraction layer
with a fairly simple interface definition that is definitely platform
independent).
Or, would I work at the FWC layer, which exposes a sort of API that
can be used by any application that links with it? This would, of
course, be somewhat platform dependent.
And, it would appear that the SDR1K and F5K have entirely different
control APIs. That is, one changes the F5K frequency by setting the
FWCDDSFreq property of Console, which results in it calling
FWC.SetRX1Freq with the frequency in MHz, but one changes the SDR1K
frequency by changing the DDSFreq property of Console, which in turn
calculates the tuning word and changes the DDSTuningWord property of
the hdw class.
Is this the case? There's no common hardware abstraction between the
two radios, and console basically invokes whichever API is needed
depending on the installed configuration. An example is in
txtVFOAFreq_LostFocus
where there's
if(fwc_init && current_model == Model.FLEX5000){
// all the stuff needed to change frequencies on the F5K
}
else
{
// all stuff needed to change frequencies on non F5K
}
Jim, W6RMK
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Re: [Flexradio] Speaking of High Tech
Look into PC-ALE. It natively supports the PowerSDR CAT commands. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Lux Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Speaking of High Tech At 03:44 PM 10/9/2007, Ken wrote: >Is it possible for a program to be written so that two Flex5000 can >communicate back and forth using digital voice such as the AOR digital >voice interfaces. (ARD-9800) I assume you're talking about something other than just cabling the AOR to the F5K... The AOR modem uses a patented voice codec(AMBE), but assuming you can license the design and right to use it, there's nothing stopping one from implementing it in PowerSDR or equivalent. (except that DVSI apparently will not license the codec for any sort of PC implementation.. you'd have to have a hardware widget somewhere. There's a $20 or so AMBE chip available, for instance) Personally, I would prefer that digital voice on the ham bands use a codec which is open and freely licensed, but since there's not much financial incentive out there for the development of it, the AOR and D-star widgets both use the AMBE codec, since the radio development also supports commercial and industrial markets. ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Speaking of High Tech
Check out WinDrm. There is some info in the Knowledge Base on setup. If I remember right, the WinDrm protocol is not the same as used by AOR so the two cannot communicate. If you listen on 14.236MHz you'll likely here some signals. When the condx are right and the sigs are strong, the audio sounds incredible. It does require a good signal-to-noise ratio but when it locks in, expect to be amazed. I think WinDRM is free. You'll probably need VCom and VAC also. I played with it a while back when I had my Delta44 sound card in the system but now I'm using Atlas/Janus/Ozy, I've yet to reconfigure my system (but plan to soon). Pete, N3EVL - Original Message - From: "Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:44 PM Subject: [Flexradio] Speaking of High Tech > Is it possible for a program to be written so that two Flex5000 can > communicate back and forth using digital voice such as the AOR digital > voice interfaces. (ARD-9800) > > Ken > K3YI > > > > > > > ___ > FlexRadio mailing list > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ > FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
This kind of reminds me of the robot packet station I ran for Field Day one year a long time ago. It would call CQ, wait for a connection, log it, hand out a QSO number, then disconnect and start over. All running on my Commodore 128! 73, Jim KQ6EA --- "Peter G. Viscarola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > They're all "really hard" > > > > Indeed. > > I suspect it wouldn't be all that difficult to build > a LOUSY contesting > robot... you know, one that slogged up the 20M band > in the CQ WW RTTY DX > Contest and attempted to QSO every station running a > frequency... and > moving on when successful or after a few > unsuccessful tries. I shudder > to think of the "contest etiquette" such a robot > would display. > > It might be easier for the robot to run a frequency. > > But I suspect building a GOOD contesting robot would > be VERY difficult > indeed. There's just so much "feel" and personal > judgment involved in > contesting. In timing, choosing bands, choosing the > stations to try to > contact, setting the receiver parameters (filers, RF > and AF gain, etc). > > H... I must admit that I kinda like the idea of > a robot sitting on a > frequency and trying to run it. I wonder how many > Qs/hr it'd be able to > sustain?? > > It DOES lead to some interesting questions: Would we > have to have it to > periodically and randomly transmit "PSE QSY PSE QSY > freq in use"?? > Would I still count as the control operator if I'm > in the other room > eating lunch and watching the football game?? (just > kidding, boys... > don't go nuts on me) > > > de Peter K1PGV > > > ___ > FlexRadio mailing list > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archive Link: > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ > FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
> > They're all "really hard" > Indeed. I suspect it wouldn't be all that difficult to build a LOUSY contesting robot... you know, one that slogged up the 20M band in the CQ WW RTTY DX Contest and attempted to QSO every station running a frequency... and moving on when successful or after a few unsuccessful tries. I shudder to think of the "contest etiquette" such a robot would display. It might be easier for the robot to run a frequency. But I suspect building a GOOD contesting robot would be VERY difficult indeed. There's just so much "feel" and personal judgment involved in contesting. In timing, choosing bands, choosing the stations to try to contact, setting the receiver parameters (filers, RF and AF gain, etc). H... I must admit that I kinda like the idea of a robot sitting on a frequency and trying to run it. I wonder how many Qs/hr it'd be able to sustain?? It DOES lead to some interesting questions: Would we have to have it to periodically and randomly transmit "PSE QSY PSE QSY freq in use"?? Would I still count as the control operator if I'm in the other room eating lunch and watching the football game?? (just kidding, boys... don't go nuts on me) de Peter K1PGV ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Speaking of High Tech
At 03:44 PM 10/9/2007, Ken wrote: >Is it possible for a program to be written so that two Flex5000 can >communicate back and forth using digital voice such as the AOR digital >voice interfaces. (ARD-9800) I assume you're talking about something other than just cabling the AOR to the F5K... The AOR modem uses a patented voice codec(AMBE), but assuming you can license the design and right to use it, there's nothing stopping one from implementing it in PowerSDR or equivalent. (except that DVSI apparently will not license the codec for any sort of PC implementation.. you'd have to have a hardware widget somewhere. There's a $20 or so AMBE chip available, for instance) Personally, I would prefer that digital voice on the ham bands use a codec which is open and freely licensed, but since there's not much financial incentive out there for the development of it, the AOR and D-star widgets both use the AMBE codec, since the radio development also supports commercial and industrial markets. ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] New Operator Questions
Hank, I have my 5000A setup for both VAC on the same computer or AFSK from a second computer. I sometimes run by Logic 8 and MixW from my other computer. When using AFSK without VAC I found that I need to run fairly high levels of audio in to the mic or line input because PowerSDR does NO preprocessing when in the DIGL mode. Be careful if you switch to LSB because then the level will be very high. The RX and TX gain have no effect when using DIGL without VAC. The Line in RCA input gain does work (Audio Mixer). I feed both my mic input and AFSK input into this line input because of my multi rig switching arrangement. I have to bump up the gain by 20db when using DIGL AFSK without VAC. If you are only using one computer, then I think VAC is the best solution !!! I often use VAC, Dual channel MixW, and MultRX on the PowerSDR. I can then copy both the DX station and the pileup. When doing this, I TX and search the pile up using the Main RX and listen to the DX station on the SubRX. This works better for tuning. I just click on the pileup and fine tune using the mouse roller wheel. In my case I use a wireless Logictech trackball. It is very very fast and easy to tune. I have found a bug in the version I'm using(SVN 1606). When I click tune, the SubRX jumps freq and I have to toggle MultRX on and off. This bug may all ready be fixed on more current versions. I also have a problem with a slight delay between MixW and PowerSDR when using VAC. MixW trails behind PowerSDR by a few hundred msecs causing a little problem in fine tuning. This is NOT a 1000 vs 5000 problem. I think it has something to do with my new computer and its setup. I played around with different Sample rates to minimize this but will need to do more experimenting I only need to run the 5000A at 25-30 watts. If I want more power I turn on the linear. 25 watts drives my Acom 2000A to all the power I want. I love PowerSDR (5000A or SDR-1000) on RTTY except for one issue. The display freq is always set to carrier freq and not mark freq that is customary for RTTY. I use to correct for this by setting both XIT and RIT to -2125 but that no longer works because the RIT is reset to zero every time I click tune. Hopefully a solution will be found when more time is available for enhancements. 73's Mark NU6X Sedona, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Aaron Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:58 AM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] New Operator Questions Hi folks. New Flex-5000 user, and Just getting around to setting up the digital modes, and need to draw on some of your experiences. First, rig is purely awesome! Gerald and Team, well done. I am not using VAC as my limited experience with it before the Flex is that it tries to take over audio in/out and overall was a pain in the butt if you did not use it all the time. That's not the question anyway, but I do wonder why the close association with VAC. I have two soundcards installed, and both receive Flex audio via a mixer (left main out)) and the line-out of each sound card feeds a mixer port, and audio bound for the Flex RCA line-in is supplied by the right channel out of the mixer. This works fine, and I have used it with my PRO III before in a similar manner. I use Serial Splitter by Eltima as a one-to-many means of sharing COM ports, and run DXLab, MixW, HRD and Writelog. So far, I have DXLab, HRD and MixW working with the Flex and Kenwood 2000 CAT emulation. When in a digital mode on the Flex, does the RX and TX Gains function for non-VAC input and output of audio signals? Also, on previous rigs one always looked for no ALC movement when setting up audio levels. In the Flex manual I believe I saw somewhere to check ALC and to make sure 0 DB was not exceeded. Appreciate if someone could confirm this. Next relates to duty-cycle and RTTY. While I am sure this is available in the documentation somewhere, I admit to being one of those that grabs the manual as a last resort, and apologize in advance. Tried to post this to the Forums, but had trouble uploading. Thanks and 73, Harold Aaron KI4MF ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
yea but I only have maybe 5-10 years to retirement depending on how I want to push it, so the machine looses. The military thing is interesting, but it does not particularly take into account the amalgum of that one little thing that makes the difference. The occurence of that highly improbable event that is so fundamental it changes everything. Life is not deterministic, but largely random. linux or PowerSDR and the GLP license for example The invention of the polio vaccine for example. The military would have devised really great and tiny respirators not a vaccine. 73 W9OY. - Original Message From: Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lee A Crocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Flexradio Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2007 6:04:44 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone??? At 02:06 PM 10/9/2007, Lee A Crocker wrote: > If you can command arrays of robot receivers, you can command > arrays of target aquisition just as easily. Where Ham Radio once > was the test bed of communications technology, radio contesting > could become the test bed of incredible weapons system design. It's already been done. Modern electronic warfare systems do this sort of thing now (i.e. using a variety of dsp techniques to look at the signals, AI to provide cuing for the operators, etc.), as do active and passive sonars. Not that there isn't room for improvement, but the development budgets in that world substantially exceed the resources of hams, and we, as hams, are more likely to adopt their methods and algorithms than they are to use ours. Adaptive signal finding algorithms are but one aspect of this research. > If you can command arrays of probes (RX) you can command means of > complex process flows that are most amenable to human intervention > and can't just be left to AI for decision making. Sure.. but I'd venture that the ham contesting world is sufficiently unique that I'm not sure user interface and signal processing that supports that will transfer over to, say, weapons system targeting. The personnel skills might transfer easier, i.e. someone who is good at picking out the signals in a pileup might also be good at discerning sonar or radar targets in clutter. At least these days, modern comm networks mean that being a signals analyst doesn't put you out in the field with a big "shoot at me" whip sticking out of your backpack. > I'm an anesthesiologist would you like the AI deciding how to > keep you alive during the course of your heart bypass or brain > aneurysm surgery when the surgeon goes "son of a bitch" and > blood hits the ceiling? Would you like to rely on the mere > goodness of the code? We actually tried to devise some systems > that maintain blood pressure automatically for example when I was in > residency. Dismal failure. Human in control with a big box of > drugs and a whole lot of knowledge? Virtually no failure. I agree... but the machine is gaining on you... Jim, W6RMK Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
At 03:38 PM 10/9/2007, Ken wrote: >What happen to the love of Ham Radio! All of this high tech >conveniences takes the "Love" away! Keep the feet wet and the hands >dirty. This way when you win or log all of those "stations" you know >you deserve _the_ pat on the back! Hands can get dirty in a compiler just as easily as with a soldering iron or hacksaw. It's all about experimentation and fooling around in whatever medium floats your boat. The first guy or gal to make a robot contestor that racks up 10,000 Q's on field day can justly feel proud of their output, as much as the guy or gal who did it using rockmite. They're all "really hard" ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
At 02:06 PM 10/9/2007, Lee A Crocker wrote: > If you can command arrays of robot receivers, you can command > arrays of target aquisition just as easily. Where Ham Radio once > was the test bed of communications technology, radio contesting > could become the test bed of incredible weapons system design. It's already been done. Modern electronic warfare systems do this sort of thing now (i.e. using a variety of dsp techniques to look at the signals, AI to provide cuing for the operators, etc.), as do active and passive sonars. Not that there isn't room for improvement, but the development budgets in that world substantially exceed the resources of hams, and we, as hams, are more likely to adopt their methods and algorithms than they are to use ours. Adaptive signal finding algorithms are but one aspect of this research. > If you can command arrays of probes (RX) you can command means of > complex process flows that are most amenable to human intervention > and can't just be left to AI for decision making. Sure.. but I'd venture that the ham contesting world is sufficiently unique that I'm not sure user interface and signal processing that supports that will transfer over to, say, weapons system targeting. The personnel skills might transfer easier, i.e. someone who is good at picking out the signals in a pileup might also be good at discerning sonar or radar targets in clutter. At least these days, modern comm networks mean that being a signals analyst doesn't put you out in the field with a big "shoot at me" whip sticking out of your backpack. > I'm an anesthesiologist would you like the AI deciding how to > keep you alive during the course of your heart bypass or brain > aneurysm surgery when the surgeon goes "son of a bitch" and > blood hits the ceiling? Would you like to rely on the mere > goodness of the code? We actually tried to devise some systems > that maintain blood pressure automatically for example when I was in > residency. Dismal failure. Human in control with a big box of > drugs and a whole lot of knowledge? Virtually no failure. I agree... but the machine is gaining on you... Jim, W6RMK ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Speaking of High Tech
Is it possible for a program to be written so that two Flex5000 can communicate back and forth using digital voice such as the AOR digital voice interfaces. (ARD-9800) Ken K3YI ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
What happen to the love of Ham Radio! All of this high tech conveniences takes the "Love" away! Keep the feet wet and the hands dirty. This way when you win or log all of those "stations" you know you deserve _the_ pat on the back! Lee A Crocker wrote: > No it will still be open to the vagaries of contesting, propagation, station > design, stratagey and deployment. It will just be an incredibly more > efficient system, and the guys who think contesting is sitting there all > night pusing the button on the keyer will go the way of the dodo. Certainly > coding the AI and user interface will be important but so will the hardware > interface and the choice of bands, and most especially the systems design. > The outcome of any contest will never be solely the venue of code, but the > ingenuity of the systems builder/operator just the same as it is today There > is a reason W3LPL and K3LR are who they are. Eventually the robots will have > to guess where each other will appear, and you could have band hopping > techniques as part of the S & P. If 10 wasn't very open for example you > could have only one or a few RX devoted to signal analysis. The user > interface would be more like a gaming console with a whole chair wired > and heads up displays popping up as new ones came along. What's the > commercial application for developing such a system? I can think of a few. > If you can command arrays of robot receivers, you can command arrays of > target aquisition just as easily. Where Ham Radio once was the test bed of > communications technology, radio contesting could become the test bed of > incredible weapons system design. If you can command arrays of probes (RX) > you can command means of complex process flows that are most amenable to > human intervention and can't just be left to AI for decision making. I'm an > anesthesiologist would you like the AI deciding how to keep you alive during > the course of your heart bypass or brain aneurysm surgery when the surgeon > goes "son of a bitch" and blood hits the ceiling? Would you like to rely > on the mere goodness of the code? We actually tried to devise some systems > that maintain blood pressure automatically for example when I was in > residency. Dismal failure. Human in control with a big box of drugs and a > whole lot of knowledge? Virtually no failure. > > 73 W9OY > > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > FlexRadio mailing list > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ > FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20071009/c9ae5676/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
W6RMK: >But seriously, it's only a matter of time before someone does build a contesting robot. The computing horsepower is available, it's just a matter of desire and skills coming together, just instead of the skill being digging out the CW and good operating skills with timing, it will be coding the AI. Done...about 15 years ago by N6TR (author of TR-Log). 73, Bill W4ZV http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/1993-07/msg00247.html Well, as someone who has done this, I would make the following proposal: 1. Pick a contest and sponsor a robot category. It wouldn't have to be done as part of the official contest, but could be done with results in the NCJ. I would suggest Field Day. 2. The robot can only search and pounce. No packet information can be used. 3. Comply to FCC rules. This is some gray areas here. If I write a computer program that controls the radio, am I in control of the operation since I wrote the program? 4. CW only. As more people start doing this type of thing, then we can think about expanding it. It really is a lot of work and to do it right, it will cost some bucks as well. Tree N6TR/7 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
Amateur coded / Destroyer Contesting AC/DC Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
No it will still be open to the vagaries of contesting, propagation, station design, stratagey and deployment. It will just be an incredibly more efficient system, and the guys who think contesting is sitting there all night pusing the button on the keyer will go the way of the dodo. Certainly coding the AI and user interface will be important but so will the hardware interface and the choice of bands, and most especially the systems design. The outcome of any contest will never be solely the venue of code, but the ingenuity of the systems builder/operator just the same as it is today There is a reason W3LPL and K3LR are who they are. Eventually the robots will have to guess where each other will appear, and you could have band hopping techniques as part of the S & P. If 10 wasn't very open for example you could have only one or a few RX devoted to signal analysis. The user interface would be more like a gaming console with a whole chair wired and heads up displays popping up as new ones came along. What's the commercial application for developing such a system? I can think of a few. If you can command arrays of robot receivers, you can command arrays of target aquisition just as easily. Where Ham Radio once was the test bed of communications technology, radio contesting could become the test bed of incredible weapons system design. If you can command arrays of probes (RX) you can command means of complex process flows that are most amenable to human intervention and can't just be left to AI for decision making. I'm an anesthesiologist would you like the AI deciding how to keep you alive during the course of your heart bypass or brain aneurysm surgery when the surgeon goes "son of a bitch" and blood hits the ceiling? Would you like to rely on the mere goodness of the code? We actually tried to devise some systems that maintain blood pressure automatically for example when I was in residency. Dismal failure. Human in control with a big box of drugs and a whole lot of knowledge? Virtually no failure. 73 W9OY Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
At 09:06 AM 10/9/2007, Lee A Crocker wrote: >If it was me I would have 14 watch receivers in the passband running >as robots, one receiver for the run station and one RX for the S&P >station. I would have the robots automatically scan a given >sub-band looking for stuff needed, by analyzing every signal in >their little slice of spectrum in a sub band. I'm a CW guy so it >would require some means of artificial analysis of CW signals like a >neural net or AI. If something showed up that was needed the robot >would inform the S&P op and would take that op to the correct freq >to work the station. The S&P op could be doing a second run in the >mean time while he was waiting for the robots to inform him of >S&P. If you had more watch receivers you could probably have both >ops timeshare S&P with run on seperate bands.. That might require a >second transmitter SDR-X here we come Well heck.. why not have the AI robot just do the QSO... how hard can it be to send TNX UR 59 QRZ? But seriously, it's only a matter of time before someone does build a contesting robot. The computing horsepower is available, it's just a matter of desire and skills coming together, just instead of the skill being digging out the CW and good operating skills with timing, it will be coding the AI. Jim, W6RMK ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
At 09:58 AM 10/9/2007, Tim Ellison wrote: >Ahhh. A new contest class - Multi Operator AI Spider Assisted (MOAISA) No.. *Zero* Operator, Watched by Enthralled Amateur... ZOWEA Jim ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] New Operator Questions
Harold, See my comments in-line below. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Aaron Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:58 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] New Operator Questions Hi folks. New Flex-5000 user, and Just getting around to setting up the digital modes, and need to draw on some of your experiences. First, rig is purely awesome! Gerald and Team, well done. I am not using VAC as my limited experience with it before the Flex is that it tries to take over audio in/out and overall was a pain in the butt if you did not use it all the time. That's not the question anyway, but I do wonder why the close association with VAC. [Tim] VAC does not take over the default sound card. As the last sound device that you loaded, it becomes the default (You can thank M$ for that). All you have to do is define a different default sound card. [Tim] VAC is used, because, once you get it working, it provides a way to keep the entire AF I/O in the digital domain. There is no A to D and then D to A conversions that add noise and distortion to the signal. Also it eliminates physical cables. The reason for the close association is that VAC is the only Windows product on the market that does this. I have two soundcards installed, and both receive Flex audio via a mixer (left main out)) and the line-out of each sound card feeds a mixer port, and audio bound for the Flex RCA line-in is supplied by the right channel out of the mixer. This works fine, and I have used it with my PRO III before in a similar manner. I use Serial Splitter by Eltima as a one-to-many means of sharing COM ports, and run DXLab, MixW, HRD and Writelog. So far, I have DXLab, HRD and MixW working with the Flex and Kenwood 2000 CAT emulation. When in a digital mode on the Flex, does the RX and TX Gains function for non-VAC input and output of audio signals? [Tim] I am not sure. I would think so as long as VAC is not enabled. Also, on previous rigs one always looked for no ALC movement when setting up audio levels. In the Flex manual I believe I saw somewhere to check ALC and to make sure 0 DB was not exceeded. Appreciate if someone could confirm this. [Tim] I do it differently. For full duty cycle modes, I set the drive to 100 (full drive) and the set the TX gain very low. Looking at the power output, I raise the TX gain until I hit the full duty cycle of the amp, which is 40 watts. At this point the MIC value on the meter is below -3 dB. Next relates to duty-cycle and RTTY. While I am sure this is available in the documentation somewhere, I admit to being one of those that grabs the manual as a last resort, and apologize in advance. Tried to post this to the Forums, but had trouble uploading. [Tim] As stated before, the full duty cycle of the amp is 40 watts. I routinely run RTTY at 100 watts in contest and working DX. For rag chewing, I back down to 40 watts. Thanks and 73, Harold Aaron KI4MF ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] No TX above SVN 1640 on the SDR 1000
Thanks. It's so nice to get corrections at the speed of light! Every thing's fine now, actually after the rebuild, it's better sounding on RX and TX. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20071009/6a806313/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] how do you get stereo headphone from a 5000A?
There are 2 stereo jacks-the headphone jack (front panel) and powered speakers jack on the back. The other two line outputs are monaural. John P. Basilotto W5GI Chief Operating Officer Marketing and Sales Office 512-535-5266 Fax512-233-5143 www.flex-radio.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim, W4ATK Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:10 PM To: Flex-Radio Reflector; FireBrick Subject: Re: [Flexradio] how do you get stereo headphone from a 5000A? I would suppose the 1/4" headphone jack to be TRS (stereo) otherwise how could you take advantage of the BIN[ary] audio from the DSP. I find this feature quite an advantage at times. Jim, W4ATK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of FireBrick Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:14 AM To: FlexRadio List Subject: [Flexradio] how do you get stereo headphone from a 5000A? Can't figure out how to get stereo headphones connected. Line out is monaural onlyI think. - Everyone seems normal until you get to know them. - Bill H. in Chicagoland webcams at http://76.16.160.118:8080/ weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] how do you get stereo headphone from a 5000A?
I would suppose the 1/4" headphone jack to be TRS (stereo) otherwise how could you take advantage of the BIN[ary] audio from the DSP. I find this feature quite an advantage at times. Jim, W4ATK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of FireBrick Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:14 AM To: FlexRadio List Subject: [Flexradio] how do you get stereo headphone from a 5000A? Can't figure out how to get stereo headphones connected. Line out is monaural onlyI think. - Everyone seems normal until you get to know them. - Bill H. in Chicagoland webcams at http://76.16.160.118:8080/ weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] New Operator Questions
Hi folks. New Flex-5000 user, and Just getting around to setting up the digital modes, and need to draw on some of your experiences. First, rig is purely awesome! Gerald and Team, well done. I am not using VAC as my limited experience with it before the Flex is that it tries to take over audio in/out and overall was a pain in the butt if you did not use it all the time. That's not the question anyway, but I do wonder why the close association with VAC. I have two soundcards installed, and both receive Flex audio via a mixer (left main out)) and the line-out of each sound card feeds a mixer port, and audio bound for the Flex RCA line-in is supplied by the right channel out of the mixer. This works fine, and I have used it with my PRO III before in a similar manner. I use Serial Splitter by Eltima as a one-to-many means of sharing COM ports, and run DXLab, MixW, HRD and Writelog. So far, I have DXLab, HRD and MixW working with the Flex and Kenwood 2000 CAT emulation. When in a digital mode on the Flex, does the RX and TX Gains function for non-VAC input and output of audio signals? Also, on previous rigs one always looked for no ALC movement when setting up audio levels. In the Flex manual I believe I saw somewhere to check ALC and to make sure 0 DB was not exceeded. Appreciate if someone could confirm this. Next relates to duty-cycle and RTTY. While I am sure this is available in the documentation somewhere, I admit to being one of those that grabs the manual as a last resort, and apologize in advance. Tried to post this to the Forums, but had trouble uploading. Thanks and 73, Harold Aaron KI4MF ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] how do you get stereo headphone from a 5000A?
I battled this for a time...ended up not using TRS, but Mono (Tip to Tip) ... take the right & left channel ends and go to TIP, ground to normal ground...now all is OK. -Bill - Original Message - From: "FireBrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FlexRadio List" Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: [Flexradio] how do you get stereo headphone from a 5000A? > Can't figure out how to get stereo headphones connected. > Line out is monaural onlyI think. > > > - > Everyone seems normal until you get to know them. > - > > Bill H. in Chicagoland > webcams at http://76.16.160.118:8080/ > weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org > > > ___ > FlexRadio mailing list > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ > FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Record/Playback Problems...
Hello, I have noticed the same. But, one mouseclick anywhere in the panadapter makes it play ok at the prequency you are on. No big problem. In LSB (and post-processed audio) it plays at 11kHz down. (My IF is 9Khz) so it wouldnt help to change it from 11 to 9KHz. :-) Stig - LA4WAA -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Eric Wachsmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 8. oktober 2007 19:42 Til: 'n3evl'; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Emne: Re: [Flexradio] Record/Playback Problems... The wave file recorder is (unfortunately) unaware of the IF at any setting. This is why it comes up off center. The DSB signal makes me think that perhaps you are recording post processed audio (or 'just plain audio' as opposed to 'I/Q audio'). Take a look at the options menu form on the Wave record form to check your settings. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > radio.biz] On Behalf Of n3evl > Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 7:09 PM > To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: [Flexradio] Record/Playback Problems... > > Just thought I'd play with the record/playback options which I had > intended to use during a sked later this evening (record off the air > and re-transmit). I'm seeing some weird behavior: > > The spectrum of the played-back signal as shown in the panadapter is > way to the left of the shaded filter passband region of the screen. > > The spectrum for a LSB signal looks more like a DSB signal. I'm > assuming it should look like the signal as displayed at the time of > recording > > I'm wondering if the record/playback code is aware that the IF has > changed from 11.025 to 9 KHz? > > Setup: > > SDR-1K, PowerSDR v1.10.4 SVN:1644 > P4 2.4GHz, 1G RAM, WinXP Home SP2 > Atlas/Janus/Ozy via USB Control > Wave settings: RX Post; TX Pre; 192KHz Sampling Rate > > Pete, N3EVL > > > ___ > FlexRadio mailing list > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ > FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] I think I should use ant3 selection
My Quadra and my yagi, both have 6 meters. Quadra has 2 inputs, 4 antenna output choices So I think...I should use ANT 3 as the 5KA default choice. This way there is no need to change Quadra input or 5K antenna. Anybody see any problem with this? - I don't do drugs anymore 'cause I find I get the same effect just by standing up really fast. - Bill H. in Chicagoland webcams at http://76.16.160.118:8080/ weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] 5KA up & running
Arrived yesterday PM. I let it cool till this morning. Hardest part of getting it working...I couldn't find the head phone jack. DUH! I did have to put a set of powerpole connectors on the cable. Already busted the piles and worked: P29VLR TM3RWC E51NOU 5L2MS On the mans mode...cw of course. - Ten out of ten people die, so don't take life too seriously. - Bill H. in Chicagoland webcams at http://76.16.160.118:8080/ weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
Ahhh. A new contest class - Multi Operator AI Spider Assisted (MOAISA) -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee A Crocker Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:06 PM To: Flexradio Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone??? If it was me I would have 14 watch receivers in the passband running as robots, one receiver for the run station and one RX for the S&P station. I would have the robots automatically scan a given sub-band looking for stuff needed, by analyzing every signal in their little slice of spectrum in a sub band. I'm a CW guy so it would require some means of artificial analysis of CW signals like a neural net or AI. If something showed up that was needed the robot would inform the S&P op and would take that op to the correct freq to work the station. The S&P op could be doing a second run in the mean time while he was waiting for the robots to inform him of S&P. If you had more watch receivers you could probably have both ops timeshare S&P with run on seperate bands.. That might require a second transmitter SDR-X here we come 73 W9OY Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
If it was me I would have 14 watch receivers in the passband running as robots, one receiver for the run station and one RX for the S&P station. I would have the robots automatically scan a given sub-band looking for stuff needed, by analyzing every signal in their little slice of spectrum in a sub band. I'm a CW guy so it would require some means of artificial analysis of CW signals like a neural net or AI. If something showed up that was needed the robot would inform the S&P op and would take that op to the correct freq to work the station. The S&P op could be doing a second run in the mean time while he was waiting for the robots to inform him of S&P. If you had more watch receivers you could probably have both ops timeshare S&P with run on seperate bands.. That might require a second transmitter SDR-X here we come 73 W9OY Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] how do you get stereo headphone from a 5000A?
Ideally, you would connect stereo headphones to the front panel (1/4"). Or, you could connect them to the 1/8" PWR SPKR Line Out plug on the back panel if you're not already using it. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > radio.biz] On Behalf Of FireBrick > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:14 AM > To: FlexRadio List > Subject: [Flexradio] how do you get stereo headphone from a 5000A? > > Can't figure out how to get stereo headphones connected. > Line out is monaural onlyI think. > > > - > Everyone seems normal until you get to know them. > - > > Bill H. in Chicagoland > webcams at http://76.16.160.118:8080/ > weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org > > > ___ > FlexRadio mailing list > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ > FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] how do you get stereo headphone from a 5000A?
Can't figure out how to get stereo headphones connected. Line out is monaural onlyI think. - Everyone seems normal until you get to know them. - Bill H. in Chicagoland webcams at http://76.16.160.118:8080/ weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] 2OSR Anyone???
At 08:12 PM 10/8/2007, Duane - N9DG wrote: >Has anyone else pondered the feasibility of running one >session of PowerSDR on two separate computers with both being >connected to a single 5000A HW box?? Aside from the considerable difficulty integrating such a thing with the current PowerSDR software, it's an intriguing concept. The bandwidth of the new radio is sufficiently large that you could probably cover the whole band of interest without ever retuning the RF section. You'd need to split the UI into "set band of interest"(which tunes the hardware) and "tune within band of interest" (which tunes the software receiver). I can imagine something which dynamically adjusts the hardware tuning to span all receiver users' current selected frequencies, but you'd have to have some sophistication to warn a user when they're too close to the band edge and/or a "lead operator" who can dominate the selection. The audio path is pretty simple.. you feed the Rx audio to all clients and they tune within it. The clients need to be told what the "center frequency" of the audio stream is, so they can relate user command/display in actual frequency to where in the I/Q bandwidth it is. Would you give each user the same panadapter display, representing the hardware tuned band? There's also an issue if one of the users wants to be at a frequency which happens to be at zero frequency in the I/Q stream, where performance isn't so wonderful. Again, some clever arbiter that takes "desired tuning frequencies from users 1..N" and turns that into "hardware tune frequency" and "user offset 1..N" would be fine. Sort of a juiced up version of the current spur reduction tuning algorithm. (And, if the F5K is using the new low spur DDS from Analog Devices, the need to tune for spur reduction is lessened... or just use only one side of the I/Q spectrum.. 100kHz is still pretty wide) I think the challenge is in specifying the rule-set behavior in a intuitive fashion, rather than the actual implementation (assuming the new architecture is implemented separating UI, dsp, and hardware control more thoroughly). What about Tx/Rx issues? >I'm thinking that such concept could be useful in an >Unlimited Multi Op contest category. One operator would be >the "run" operator and the other operator being the S&P >operator. Each would have their own UI control and each could >have two RX's as in today's PowerSDR, and then with the next >generation PowerSDR software, maybe even 3-4 RX's per >operator. No doubt would take some practice to learn how to >team operate like that, but I would think it should be >doable. Yes? No? > >Duane >N9DG Jim, W6RMK ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Bug tracker Status codes?
It means "not reproducible". It is one of the options in the search status; you have to scroll down to see it. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:07 AM To: Flex Group Subject: [Flexradio] Bug tracker Status codes? I posted a bug report but then couldn't find it on the list until I checked the "any" box to show all regardless of status. Now I see it with the status code "NR," which does not appear in the list of codes. What does "NR" mean? 73 Alan NV8A ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Bug tracker Status codes?
I posted a bug report but then couldn't find it on the list until I checked the "any" box to show all regardless of status. Now I see it with the status code "NR," which does not appear in the list of codes. What does "NR" mean? 73 Alan NV8A ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
