Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR for split mode

[Pete Ferrand]

Dudley Hurry writes:

>You can do this with the Flex -5000 with RX2 option in it..  Two 
>separate receivers..

OK, but I really don't want to buy whole new transceiver just to do this once 
in a great while. 

Note that I don't want simultaneous receive and transmit.

Is there any reason the software couldn't do it? Seems that if we can switch 
frequencies between transmit and receive, we should be able to switch modes.

-Pete
WB2QLL
Somers, WI



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>
>Pete Ferrand wrote:
>> I'll feel really silly if there's some obvious way to do this that I've 
>> overlooked. 
>>
>> Using PowerSDR, is there some way to transmit in one mode, say AM, and 
>> receive in another, say USB?
>>
>> If not, can I make this happen with HRD or some other Windows package?
>>
>> I'm using an SDR-1000.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Pete
>> WB2QLL
>> Somers, WI
>>
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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR for split mode

[Dudley Hurry]

You can do this with the Flex -5000 with RX2 option in it..  Two 
separate receivers..


73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Pete Ferrand wrote:
I'll feel really silly if there's some obvious way to do this that I've overlooked. 


Using PowerSDR, is there some way to transmit in one mode, say AM, and receive 
in another, say USB?

If not, can I make this happen with HRD or some other Windows package?

I'm using an SDR-1000.

Thanks.

-Pete
WB2QLL
Somers, WI


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Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs

[BILL GUYGER]

If your problem is RF pick up in balanced audio pairs, may I recommend Canare 
(pronounced Can-R-E) L4E6-S cable which is available from any quality audio 
dealer. This whole series of cable is designed for noise immunity. It has a 
heavy woven shield and 4 internal conductors, two white and two blue which you 
wire in pairs. The extra conductors add some capacitance which effects high end 
response, but since they use polyethylene insulation the overall effects of 
capacitance are minimized. 

This stuff is great, and its all I use for live event interconnection with the 
exception of where I send balanced audio along with +/- 15V. audio power and 
+12 V. logic power down VGA cables to the desk boxes in front of the Play by 
Play and Color guys that have their mic-pre / line driver and headphone amps in 
them.

Bill AD5OL





From: "Lux, James P" 
To: Dudley Hurry ; Chris seeber 
Cc: "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:42:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs
..

If you're having interference problems with balanced AUDIO cables, then 
something else is wrong.  Twisted pair, unshielded, should have substantially 
better interference rejection than any sort of coax lashup, paired or 
otherwise.  Look for a leakage capacitance problem at one end or the other. The 
audio circuit probably has different parasitic C from each side to ground, and 
while at audio frequencies this isn't a big deal, at RF, it could be a problem.

Have you looked at K9YC's RFI-ham write up?  It explains all sorts of stuff 
about running wires hither and yon, interference, filtering, etc.  Pin 1 
problems are a big issue, and he addresses how they can creep in.

Jim, W6RMK

On 1/30/09 10:32 AM, "Dudley Hurry"  wrote:

Chris,

Here is another way to run the wires in,  take two identical runs of
coax,  at least RG8x,  tie the grounds together on the outside end,  but
this way you can run the twin lead inside without effecting near
field..  This might solve your issue getting inside..


73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Chris seeber wrote:
> Dudley,
>
> Thanks.  Yes, there is no doubt an "out of balance" situation going on
> here.  The lines are the same length, but they do come very close to the
> PC (tower) case and are also routed too close to the ground wires in the
> shack.  There's no other way to route them in here.  That's why I need
> to get them outside and run coax in.  I am hoping that will solve most
> of the trouble.
>
> Chris,
> KA1GEU
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dudley Hurry [mailto:jhu...@austin.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:51 PM
> To: Chris seeber
> Cc: mindaugas2...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs
>
> Chris,
>
> If you are using balanced line and getting RFI,  something is out of
> balanced,  most likely the latter line.  You must be careful that the
> lengths of both lines are exactly the same,  and that includes the
> antenna.  And ANY metal objects close to either side will throw it out
> of balance.  The whole ideal of balance lines is the word balanced,
> exactly the same and the RF will be canceled out.    These things have
> to be planned very carefully.  I have run balanced here and had no RF
> showing on my field strength meter,  if it does,  there is a problem.
>
> 73,
> Dudley
>
> WA5QPZ
>
>
>
>
>

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[Flexradio] PowerSDR for split mode

[Pete Ferrand]

I'll feel really silly if there's some obvious way to do this that I've 
overlooked. 

Using PowerSDR, is there some way to transmit in one mode, say AM, and receive 
in another, say USB?

If not, can I make this happen with HRD or some other Windows package?

I'm using an SDR-1000.

Thanks.

-Pete
WB2QLL
Somers, WI


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Re: [Flexradio] Balanced transmission feedline using coax

[Lux, James P]

On 1/30/09 11:41 AM, "Carmine Iannace"  wrote:

> Dudley,
>
> I actually use the configuration you mentioned for my current feedline. It
> allows me to run balanced transmission line from my balanced tuner, out the
> house (passing nearby metal) and underground for about 50 ft or so. This "coax
> as balanced line" configuration then feeds a long run of low loss 450 ohm
> open-wire line to my multi-band antenna.
>
> The trick with lashing two pieces of coax together to achieve a balance line
> boils down to two best practices - use the highest impedance and lowest loss
> cable available and keep the coax run as short as possible. This will
> minimalize feedline losses as they are considerable in the coax segment
> compared to traditional openwire line. Overall, the coax to 450 ohm ladder
> line feed should have much less loss (in a high SWR multiband environment)
> compared to a full run with plain RG-8 transmission line.

There is "siamese" dual 75 ohm coax widely used in the cable TV business
that is ideal for this kind of thing. There's both an indoor inside-the-wall
flavor used for wiring from hub to jacks in the rooms and a outdoor flavor
with a steel cable messenger line and rugged jacket.  The indoor stuff looks
like giant zipcord.

It's hard to find these days, but there used to be a 93 Ohm dual coax used
for wiring 3270 terminals.  I used to see it around as surplus on spools but
I have to confess I haven't seen it for at least 10 years.  It may have gone
on to that big cable graveyard in the sky. Anyone still using these devices
probably uses baluns to Cat 5 UTP now.


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Re: [Flexradio] Balanced transmission feedline using coax

[Carmine Iannace]

Dudley,

I actually use the configuration you mentioned for my current feedline. It 
allows me to run balanced transmission line from my balanced tuner, out the 
house (passing nearby metal) and underground for about 50 ft or so. This "coax 
as balanced line" configuration then feeds a long run of low loss 450 ohm 
open-wire line to my multi-band antenna.

The trick with lashing two pieces of coax together to achieve a balance line 
boils down to two best practices - use the highest impedance and lowest loss 
cable available and keep the coax run as short as possible. This will 
minimalize feedline losses as they are considerable in the coax segment 
compared to traditional openwire line. Overall, the coax to 450 ohm ladder line 
feed should have much less loss (in a high SWR multiband environment) compared 
to a full run with plain RG-8 transmission line.

My balanced configuration uses a dual, low loss 75 ohm cable configured as you 
described feeding the RF out of the tuner into both center conductors with the 
shield boded together. The two cables are wiretied together and cut to be the 
same length.

I use this system with a center fed 160 through 10 meter flatop 250 ft long and 
70ft in the air. I have no issues with RF in the shack at all with my SDR-1000 
and Edirol FA-66 sound card.

Carmine
W1EQX

--- On Fri, 1/30/09, Dudley Hurry  wrote:
From: Dudley Hurry 
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs
To: "Chris seeber" 
Cc: mindaugas2...@yahoo.com, flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 1:32 PM

Chris,

Here is another way to run the wires in,  take two identical runs of coax,  at
least RG8x,  tie the grounds together on the outside end,  but this way you can
run the twin lead inside without effecting near field..  This might solve your
issue getting inside..


73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Chris seeber wrote:
> Dudley,
> 
> Thanks.  Yes, there is no doubt an "out of balance" situation
going on
> here.  The lines are the same length, but they do come very close to the
> PC (tower) case and are also routed too close to the ground wires in the
> shack.  There's no other way to route them in here.  That's why I
need
> to get them outside and run coax in.  I am hoping that will solve most
> of the trouble.
> 
> Chris,
> KA1GEU
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dudley Hurry [mailto:jhu...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, January
29, 2009 4:51 PM
> To: Chris seeber
> Cc: mindaugas2...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs
> 
> Chris,
> 
> If you are using balanced line and getting RFI,  something is out of
balanced,  most likely the latter line.   You must be careful that the lengths
of both lines are exactly the same,  and that includes the antenna.   And ANY
metal objects close to either side will throw it out of balance.   The whole
ideal of balance lines is the word balanced,  exactly the same and the RF will
be canceled out.These things have to be planned very carefully.  I have run
balanced here and had no RF showing on my field strength meter,  if it does, 
there is a problem. 
> 73,
> Dudley
> 
> WA5QPZ
> 
>  
> 
>   


  
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Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs

[Lux, James P]

Except that the reason folks usually run balanced transmission lines is to have 
low loss, from the high Z of the line (high Z = low current = low IR losses, 
which dominate at HF over the dielectric loss).  Two coaxes makes a 100 ohm 
line, so you don't get the low loss benefit from balanced openwire line. (8x 
also has tiny center conductors..)  If you ran dual RG-11 sized wire, perhaps.. 
 (RG-213/RG-8 sized wire has a AWG 13 center conductor.. Compare to openwire 
line with AWG14 or AWG16)

Is the problem coupling "out of" a balanced openwire line?
..

If you're having interference problems with balanced AUDIO cables, then 
something else is wrong.  Twisted pair, unshielded, should have substantially 
better interference rejection than any sort of coax lashup, paired or 
otherwise.   Look for a leakage capacitance problem at one end or the other. 
The audio circuit probably has different parasitic C from each side to ground, 
and while at audio frequencies this isn't a big deal, at RF, it could be a 
problem.

Have you looked at K9YC's RFI-ham write up?  It explains all sorts of stuff 
about running wires hither and yon, interference, filtering, etc.  Pin 1 
problems are a big issue, and he addresses how they can creep in.

Jim, W6RMK

On 1/30/09 10:32 AM, "Dudley Hurry"  wrote:

Chris,

Here is another way to run the wires in,  take two identical runs of
coax,  at least RG8x,  tie the grounds together on the outside end,  but
this way you can run the twin lead inside without effecting near
field..  This might solve your issue getting inside..


73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Chris seeber wrote:
> Dudley,
>
> Thanks.  Yes, there is no doubt an "out of balance" situation going on
> here.  The lines are the same length, but they do come very close to the
> PC (tower) case and are also routed too close to the ground wires in the
> shack.  There's no other way to route them in here.  That's why I need
> to get them outside and run coax in.  I am hoping that will solve most
> of the trouble.
>
> Chris,
> KA1GEU
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dudley Hurry [mailto:jhu...@austin.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:51 PM
> To: Chris seeber
> Cc: mindaugas2...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs
>
> Chris,
>
> If you are using balanced line and getting RFI,  something is out of
> balanced,  most likely the latter line.   You must be careful that the
> lengths of both lines are exactly the same,  and that includes the
> antenna.   And ANY metal objects close to either side will throw it out
> of balance.   The whole ideal of balance lines is the word balanced,
> exactly the same and the RF will be canceled out.These things have
> to be planned very carefully.  I have run balanced here and had no RF
> showing on my field strength meter,  if it does,  there is a problem.
>
> 73,
> Dudley
>
> WA5QPZ
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs

[Dudley Hurry]

Chris,

Here is another way to run the wires in,  take two identical runs of 
coax,  at least RG8x,  tie the grounds together on the outside end,  but 
this way you can run the twin lead inside without effecting near 
field..  This might solve your issue getting inside..



73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Chris seeber wrote:

Dudley,

Thanks.  Yes, there is no doubt an "out of balance" situation going on
here.  The lines are the same length, but they do come very close to the
PC (tower) case and are also routed too close to the ground wires in the
shack.  There's no other way to route them in here.  That's why I need
to get them outside and run coax in.  I am hoping that will solve most
of the trouble.

Chris,
KA1GEU

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From: Dudley Hurry [mailto:jhu...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:51 PM

To: Chris seeber
Cc: mindaugas2...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs

Chris,

If you are using balanced line and getting RFI,  something is out of 
balanced,  most likely the latter line.   You must be careful that the 
lengths of both lines are exactly the same,  and that includes the 
antenna.   And ANY metal objects close to either side will throw it out 
of balance.   The whole ideal of balance lines is the word balanced,  
exactly the same and the RF will be canceled out.These things have 
to be planned very carefully.  I have run balanced here and had no RF 
showing on my field strength meter,  if it does,  there is a problem. 


73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ

 



  


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Re: [Flexradio] HotWheels applet correction

[Neal Campbell]

It would be great to forward Sami's note so we can all learn from it!

Thanks
Neal k3nc

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, FireBrick  wrote:
> I just received a email from Sami OH2BFO who wrote the HotWheels applet for
> PWSDR.
>
> He told me how to defeat the keypad redirects and no the mouse wheel works
> even better.
>
> You don't need focus, the mouse wheel changes VFO A on PWSDR, you don't even
> have to have PWSDR open on your desktop.
>
>
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[Flexradio] HotWheels applet correction

[FireBrick]

I just received a email from Sami OH2BFO who wrote the HotWheels applet for 
PWSDR.


He told me how to defeat the keypad redirects and no the mouse wheel works 
even better.


You don't need focus, the mouse wheel changes VFO A on PWSDR, you don't even 
have to have PWSDR open on your desktop.




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Re: [Flexradio] You do NOT need focus to control PWSDR Vfo

[Brian Lloyd]

Oh, have we discovered why dedicated controls are sometimes desirable  
in a user interface?


73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL


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Re: [Flexradio] 6 M external pre-amp

[Tim Ellison]

Nope.  See the following KC article for how antenna routing  works for the 
FLEX-5000
http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50385.aspx

You will need to use the dedicated RX2-IN port and put the LNA on it or better 
yet at the antenna (mast mounted) to minimize loss. 


-Tim

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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of w...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] 6 M external pre-amp

I am sure many of you have already sorted this out. What is the easiest way to 
install an external LNA 6 meters using RX2 ? Can rx 2 be relabled rx1and rx1 in 
/ out loop through be used?

Thanks
Fred W1FC/4


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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28

[Joel Harrison]

Everyone has their own preference and operating style. Mine is to leave the
keyboard for logging and auto CW sending of callsign, report, etc. and
using the mouse wheel or PowerMate for small frequency adjustment. I keep
the keyboard (and mouse) in the middle, with the PowerMate to the left for
frequency tuning in small increments with my left hand and the key paddle to
the right for CW sending with my right hand (I'm right handed).

I realize old habits are hard to break, and my old habits are probably worse
to break than the average ham but trying to make small finite frequency
adjustments from the keyboard through a secondary program hasn't worked well
for me. Point and click isn't the issue either because that works great for
moving quickly our jumping around, it's being able to tune slowly from one
station up a couple hundred hertz to the next during S&P or while working
split in an expedition environment.

Ruben's original inquiry, and my interest as well, is how to change
frequency in PowerSDR with a mouse wheel our external device without
PowerSDR being "mouse focused" (the active program), especially since
PowerSDR runs well and continues to actively function in that condition.

73 Joel W5ZN


 

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From: Dave Kiefer [mailto:n4...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:09 AM
To: w...@arrl.org
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28

N1MM has the ability to control rig frequency with point and click on the
band map and the keyboard has incremental change with the + or- key, or is
it the up and down arrows I can't remember at the moment, increment size is
programmable in N1MM.
You can also change bands clicking in N1MM.
This works very well with SDR in a contest.
No need to go to the SDR window at all, unless you want to click on a signal
in the panadapter, N1MM has a feature option somewhere in it that when the
freq.
changes on the radio the focus goes back to N1MM.

Dave - N4DWK
Joel Harrison wrote:
> Art,
>  
> It will not solve this issue, because even with two monitors, which I 
> do run, you can still only have one program in focus (active) for the 
> mouse/keyboard.
>  
> You will be able to see both programs running (which you can do with 
> one monitor), you just cannot have access each one in a dual fashion.
>  
> 73 Joel W%ZN
>  
>
>   _
>
> From: w8...@yahoo.com [mailto:w8...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:12 AM
> To: w...@arrl.org
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28
>
>
> I am not really a contester but I do play around in them. I have found 
> that using two monitors solves most of those issues.
>  
> Art, K8JK
>
>
>   _
>
> From: Joel Harrison 
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:40:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28
>
>
> Greetings Ruben,
>
> This is an annoying issue for contest/Expedition operation that I wish 
> Flex could find a solution for.
>
> During a contest I have my logging program (I use N1MM) and PowerSDR 
> on the same computer. All works great, interfaces fine and there are 
> no issue with the exception that I cannot change frequency, either 
> with the mouse wheel or with the Griffin Powermate, without having the 
> PowerSDR window in focus (active). Of course, when I do that the N1MM 
> logger window is not in focus
> (active) and I have to continually click back and fourth between the 
> two. It isn't a problem if I'm running stations on a single frequency, 
> as I just keep the N1MM window in focus (active) and all is well, but 
> when I S&P or need to change frequency it is a problem because I have 
> to continually click back and fourth between N1MM and PowerSDR even 
> though I have both windows always viewable on the screen. Of course a 
> "mouse click" is very quick but it adds an additional step into a 
> process that should not be (and isn't with conventional radios) required.
>
> Working a pileup in a split frequency scenario would be the same and 
> having to continually switch back and fourth between PowerSDR and your 
> logging program to bring each one into focus (active) will slow down your
rate.
>
> I've been compiling an "improvement wish list" from my contest 
> operation to send to Flex in hopes they can incorporate some of them.
>
> Having the ability to just simply change frequency in PowerSDR with 
> either the mouse wheel or another external device (Griffin PowerMate, 
> ShuttlePRO,
> etc) without PowerSDR being in focus would be a HUGE improvement for 
> contest operation.
>
> I'm sure the software guys are going to tell me it is much easier said 
> than done  :-))
>
> 73 Joel W5ZN
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:14:42 +0100
> From: Ruben Navarro Huedo 
> Subject: [Flexradio] Use in expedition.
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Message-ID: <4981d5f2.1010...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859

Re: [Flexradio] You do NOT need focus to control PWSDR Vfo

[Sami Aintila]

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:03 PM, FireBrick  wrote:
> A small  free applet, called HotWheels, which I got from the Flex files (I
> think) will make your mouse wheel, or ShuttlePro Wheel control VFOA.
>
> You load the applet, and can enable or disable it by the Scroll Lock button
> on your keypad.
>
> The only problem it disables the NumLock and disables the number keypad.
> You must use the qwerty keys numbers on you keyboard.
>

Hey, it doesn't have to work that way -- HotWheel is configurable.

The config file that comes with HotWheel redirects NumPad keys to some
PowerSDR functions. This example configuration wasn't even supposed to
be that useful, but simply a demonstration of what kind of things are
possible.

You can edit the HotWheel.cfg file to remove keyboard redirections by
deleting every line that starts with 'VK'. Save the file and (re)start
HotWheel. Now it should work with mouse wheel only and let you use the
NumPad keys for whatever you want.

73, Sami OH2BFO

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[Flexradio] 6 M external pre-amp

[w1fc]

I am sure many of you have already sorted this out. What is the easiest way to 
install an external LNA 6 meters using RX2 ? Can rx 2 be relabled rx1and rx1 in 
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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28

[Dave Kiefer]

N1MM has the ability to control rig frequency with point and click on 
the band map
and the keyboard has incremental change with the + or- key, or is it the 
up and down arrows

I can't remember at the moment, increment size is programmable in N1MM.
You can also change bands clicking in N1MM.
This works very well with SDR in a contest.
No need to go to the SDR window at all, unless you want to click on a signal
in the panadapter, N1MM has a feature option somewhere in it that when 
the freq.

changes on the radio the focus goes back to N1MM.

Dave - N4DWK
Joel Harrison wrote:

Art,
 
It will not solve this issue, because even with two monitors, which I do

run, you can still only have one program in focus (active) for the
mouse/keyboard.
 
You will be able to see both programs running (which you can do with one

monitor), you just cannot have access each one in a dual fashion.
 
73 Joel W%ZN
 

  _  

From: w8...@yahoo.com [mailto:w8...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:12 AM

To: w...@arrl.org
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28


I am not really a contester but I do play around in them. I have found that
using two monitors solves most of those issues.
 
Art, K8JK



  _  


From: Joel Harrison 
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:40:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28


Greetings Ruben,

This is an annoying issue for contest/Expedition operation that I wish Flex
could find a solution for.

During a contest I have my logging program (I use N1MM) and PowerSDR on the
same computer. All works great, interfaces fine and there are no issue with
the exception that I cannot change frequency, either with the mouse wheel or
with the Griffin Powermate, without having the PowerSDR window in focus
(active). Of course, when I do that the N1MM logger window is not in focus
(active) and I have to continually click back and fourth between the two. It
isn't a problem if I'm running stations on a single frequency, as I just
keep the N1MM window in focus (active) and all is well, but when I S&P or
need to change frequency it is a problem because I have to continually click
back and fourth between N1MM and PowerSDR even though I have both windows
always viewable on the screen. Of course a "mouse click" is very quick but
it adds an additional step into a process that should not be (and isn't with
conventional radios) required.

Working a pileup in a split frequency scenario would be the same and having
to continually switch back and fourth between PowerSDR and your logging
program to bring each one into focus (active) will slow down your rate.

I've been compiling an "improvement wish list" from my contest operation to
send to Flex in hopes they can incorporate some of them.

Having the ability to just simply change frequency in PowerSDR with either
the mouse wheel or another external device (Griffin PowerMate, ShuttlePRO,
etc) without PowerSDR being in focus would be a HUGE improvement for contest
operation.

I'm sure the software guys are going to tell me it is much easier said than
done  :-))

73 Joel W5ZN





Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:14:42 +0100
From: Ruben Navarro Huedo 
Subject: [Flexradio] Use in expedition.
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Message-ID: <4981d5f2.1010...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hello friends:
We want use the FLEX-5000A in our next expedition.
When we go to a expedition weight is very important, and we can't have 2 
laptops in a station.

We work always in Split.
TX is a fixed frequency and we listen 5 to 10 or 5 to 15 up.
The problem is:
We have to use the same laptop for logging and Powersdr.
The BIG problem is ... How can we change the listen frequency without 
change from logging software to PowerSDR ?
Yes, we can use a shuttle pro, but can't change to powersdr in each qso 
in a pile up.

Any help?
Any future accesories?

Has anybody done this in a dx-pedition?

This is the only "using" problem we have had with the Flex's.

TNX a lot.

  


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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28

[Tim Ellison]

 
"I thought the ability to send commands to a program regardless of that 
programming having focus (or not) was a standard feature available with the 
PowerMate."

Unfortunately, it is not.  I submitted a feature request to the Griffin folks 
several years ago for that capability.  I resubmitted the request several times 
and it has gone no where.

Maybe if every Flexer flooded them with the same feature request, it might get 
some attention by their marketing folks (who drive what features are put into 
their products)

http://www.griffintechnology.com/about/contact/


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:51 AM
To: w...@arrl.org; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28


Having the ability to just simply change frequency in PowerSDR with either the 
mouse wheel or another external device (Griffin PowerMate, ShuttlePRO,
etc) without PowerSDR being in focus would be a HUGE improvement for contest 
operation.


I thought the ability to send commands to a program regardless of that 
programming having focus (or not) was a standard feature available with the 
PowerMate.  I haven't played with my PowerMate for a while... do I remember 
incorrectly??

Peter
K1PGV


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[Flexradio] You do NOT need focus to control PWSDR Vfo

[FireBrick]

A small  free applet, called HotWheels, which I got from the Flex files (I 
think) will make your mouse wheel, or ShuttlePro Wheel control VFOA.


You load the applet, and can enable or disable it by the Scroll Lock button 
on your keypad.


The only problem it disables the NumLock and disables the number keypad.
You must use the qwerty keys numbers on you keyboard.





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Re: [Flexradio] [SPAM] vs2008

[Tim Ellison]

This issue has already been submitted to the bug tracker. 



-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of David Gardner
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:47 AM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [SPAM] [Flexradio] vs2008

Running 1.17.0 svn ver. 2635 and the TX meter goes to full scale when in 
alc,mic,cpdr,eq. lev etc when operating-goes to 200 db when radio is keyed, is 
anyone else seein the same thing?
Dave
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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28

[Peter G. Viscarola]

Having the ability to just simply change frequency in PowerSDR with
either the mouse wheel or another external device (Griffin PowerMate,
ShuttlePRO,
etc) without PowerSDR being in focus would be a HUGE improvement for
contest operation.


I thought the ability to send commands to a program regardless of that
programming having focus (or not) was a standard feature available with
the PowerMate.  I haven't played with my PowerMate for a while... do I
remember incorrectly??

Peter
K1PGV


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[Flexradio] vs2008

[David Gardner]

Running 1.17.0 svn ver. 2635 and the TX meter goes to full scale when in 
alc,mic,cpdr,eq. lev etc when operating-goes to 200 db when radio is keyed, is 
anyone else seein the same thing?
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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28

[Joel Harrison]

Art,
 
It will not solve this issue, because even with two monitors, which I do
run, you can still only have one program in focus (active) for the
mouse/keyboard.
 
You will be able to see both programs running (which you can do with one
monitor), you just cannot have access each one in a dual fashion.
 
73 Joel W%ZN
 

  _  

From: w8...@yahoo.com [mailto:w8...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:12 AM
To: w...@arrl.org
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28


I am not really a contester but I do play around in them. I have found that
using two monitors solves most of those issues.
 
Art, K8JK


  _  

From: Joel Harrison 
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:40:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28


Greetings Ruben,

This is an annoying issue for contest/Expedition operation that I wish Flex
could find a solution for.

During a contest I have my logging program (I use N1MM) and PowerSDR on the
same computer. All works great, interfaces fine and there are no issue with
the exception that I cannot change frequency, either with the mouse wheel or
with the Griffin Powermate, without having the PowerSDR window in focus
(active). Of course, when I do that the N1MM logger window is not in focus
(active) and I have to continually click back and fourth between the two. It
isn't a problem if I'm running stations on a single frequency, as I just
keep the N1MM window in focus (active) and all is well, but when I S&P or
need to change frequency it is a problem because I have to continually click
back and fourth between N1MM and PowerSDR even though I have both windows
always viewable on the screen. Of course a "mouse click" is very quick but
it adds an additional step into a process that should not be (and isn't with
conventional radios) required.

Working a pileup in a split frequency scenario would be the same and having
to continually switch back and fourth between PowerSDR and your logging
program to bring each one into focus (active) will slow down your rate.

I've been compiling an "improvement wish list" from my contest operation to
send to Flex in hopes they can incorporate some of them.

Having the ability to just simply change frequency in PowerSDR with either
the mouse wheel or another external device (Griffin PowerMate, ShuttlePRO,
etc) without PowerSDR being in focus would be a HUGE improvement for contest
operation.

I'm sure the software guys are going to tell me it is much easier said than
done  :-))

73 Joel W5ZN





Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:14:42 +0100
From: Ruben Navarro Huedo 
Subject: [Flexradio] Use in expedition.
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Message-ID: <4981d5f2.1010...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hello friends:
We want use the FLEX-5000A in our next expedition.
When we go to a expedition weight is very important, and we can't have 2 
laptops in a station.
We work always in Split.
TX is a fixed frequency and we listen 5 to 10 or 5 to 15 up.
The problem is:
We have to use the same laptop for logging and Powersdr.
The BIG problem is ... How can we change the listen frequency without 
change from logging software to PowerSDR ?
Yes, we can use a shuttle pro, but can't change to powersdr in each qso 
in a pile up.
Any help?
Any future accesories?

Has anybody done this in a dx-pedition?

This is the only "using" problem we have had with the Flex's.

TNX a lot.

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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28

[w8ikn]

I am not really a contester but I do play around in them. I have found that 
using two monitors solves most of those issues.

Art, K8JK





From: Joel Harrison 
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:40:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28


Greetings Ruben,

This is an annoying issue for contest/Expedition operation that I wish Flex
could find a solution for.

During a contest I have my logging program (I use N1MM) and PowerSDR on the
same computer. All works great, interfaces fine and there are no issue with
the exception that I cannot change frequency, either with the mouse wheel or
with the Griffin Powermate, without having the PowerSDR window in focus
(active). Of course, when I do that the N1MM logger window is not in focus
(active) and I have to continually click back and fourth between the two. It
isn't a problem if I'm running stations on a single frequency, as I just
keep the N1MM window in focus (active) and all is well, but when I S&P or
need to change frequency it is a problem because I have to continually click
back and fourth between N1MM and PowerSDR even though I have both windows
always viewable on the screen. Of course a "mouse click" is very quick but
it adds an additional step into a process that should not be (and isn't with
conventional radios) required.

Working a pileup in a split frequency scenario would be the same and having
to continually switch back and fourth between PowerSDR and your logging
program to bring each one into focus (active) will slow down your rate.

I've been compiling an "improvement wish list" from my contest operation to
send to Flex in hopes they can incorporate some of them.

Having the ability to just simply change frequency in PowerSDR with either
the mouse wheel or another external device (Griffin PowerMate, ShuttlePRO,
etc) without PowerSDR being in focus would be a HUGE improvement for contest
operation.

I'm sure the software guys are going to tell me it is much easier said than
done  :-))

73 Joel W5ZN





Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:14:42 +0100
From: Ruben Navarro Huedo 
Subject: [Flexradio] Use in expedition.
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Message-ID: <4981d5f2.1010...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hello friends:
We want use the FLEX-5000A in our next expedition.
When we go to a expedition weight is very important, and we can't have 2 
laptops in a station.
We work always in Split.
TX is a fixed frequency and we listen 5 to 10 or 5 to 15 up.
The problem is:
We have to use the same laptop for logging and Powersdr.
The BIG problem is ... How can we change the listen frequency without 
change from logging software to PowerSDR ?
Yes, we can use a shuttle pro, but can't change to powersdr in each qso 
in a pile up.
Any help?
Any future accesories?

Has anybody done this in a dx-pedition?

This is the only "using" problem we have had with the Flex's.

TNX a lot.

-- 
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[Flexradio] Dxpedition/contest use

[FireBrick]

One of the software guys who codes SVN's (was) working on a version of PWSDR 
that 'fit' in Writelog.
What I mean is that a small window with freq, mode, controls sat in the 
Writelog window.

He's a busy guy, real busy guy, and I think other progects have come up.

hopefully he will get time to provide this interface.


As for N1MM (I haven't tried it yet) I can't believe they don't offer a 
'mouse wheel click equals xhz cat type .ini feature.

As I know they answer feature requests, you might check with them.



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[Flexradio] VS2008 branch.

[Eddy Van de Velde]

Using SDR-1000 and Test branch v1.17.0 SVN 2635
On Windows XP SP3

Using virtual com ports Com0Com in v1.16.1 for CAT and PTT control of HRD-DM780 
without any problem.

The virtual com port for PTT control is not recognised as a valid port number 
in the test branch.

Any idea ?

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Re: [Flexradio] Use in expedition

[Lee A Crocker]

Terminal programs have a control mode, and a text mode that you can toggle 
between and you can direct keyboard input into different aspects of the 
program.  I wonder if you could make an applet that captures the keyboard for a 
given program like wrtelog and you could toggle in and out of it, like a 
terminal program?

73  W9OY



  
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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28

[Joel Harrison]

Greetings Ruben,

This is an annoying issue for contest/Expedition operation that I wish Flex
could find a solution for.

During a contest I have my logging program (I use N1MM) and PowerSDR on the
same computer. All works great, interfaces fine and there are no issue with
the exception that I cannot change frequency, either with the mouse wheel or
with the Griffin Powermate, without having the PowerSDR window in focus
(active). Of course, when I do that the N1MM logger window is not in focus
(active) and I have to continually click back and fourth between the two. It
isn't a problem if I'm running stations on a single frequency, as I just
keep the N1MM window in focus (active) and all is well, but when I S&P or
need to change frequency it is a problem because I have to continually click
back and fourth between N1MM and PowerSDR even though I have both windows
always viewable on the screen. Of course a "mouse click" is very quick but
it adds an additional step into a process that should not be (and isn't with
conventional radios) required.

Working a pileup in a split frequency scenario would be the same and having
to continually switch back and fourth between PowerSDR and your logging
program to bring each one into focus (active) will slow down your rate.

I've been compiling an "improvement wish list" from my contest operation to
send to Flex in hopes they can incorporate some of them.

Having the ability to just simply change frequency in PowerSDR with either
the mouse wheel or another external device (Griffin PowerMate, ShuttlePRO,
etc) without PowerSDR being in focus would be a HUGE improvement for contest
operation.

I'm sure the software guys are going to tell me it is much easier said than
done  :-))

73 Joel W5ZN





Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:14:42 +0100
From: Ruben Navarro Huedo 
Subject: [Flexradio] Use in expedition.
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Message-ID: <4981d5f2.1010...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hello friends:
We want use the FLEX-5000A in our next expedition.
When we go to a expedition weight is very important, and we can't have 2 
laptops in a station.
We work always in Split.
TX is a fixed frequency and we listen 5 to 10 or 5 to 15 up.
The problem is:
We have to use the same laptop for logging and Powersdr.
The BIG problem is ... How can we change the listen frequency without 
change from logging software to PowerSDR ?
Yes, we can use a shuttle pro, but can't change to powersdr in each qso 
in a pile up.
Any help?
Any future accesories?

Has anybody done this in a dx-pedition?

This is the only "using" problem we have had with the Flex's.

TNX a lot.

-- 
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[Flexradio] VS2008 branch

[Bob McGwier]

Eric added ADODB to the repository for those having problems with VS2008 
version.  Apologies.


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Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs

[Jimmy Jay Jones Sr.]

Remember Chris

ALWAYS Balanced

Same with feedlines.hehehe

--Original Mail--
From: "Chris seeber" 
To: "'Dudley Hurry'" ,

Sent: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:33:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs

Dudley,

Thanks.  Yes, there is no doubt an "out of balance" situation going on
here.  The lines are the same length, but they do come very close to the
PC (tower) case and are also routed too close to the ground wires in the
shack.  There's no other way to route them in here.  That's why I need
to get them outside and run coax in.  I am hoping that will solve most
of the trouble.

Chris,
KA1GEU

-Original Message-
From: Dudley Hurry [mailto:jhu...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:51 PM
To: Chris seeber
Cc: mindaugas2...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs

Chris,

If you are using balanced line and getting RFI,  something is out of 
balanced,  most likely the latter line.   You must be careful that the 
lengths of both lines are exactly the same,  and that includes the 
antenna.   And ANY metal objects close to either side will throw it out 
of balance.   The whole ideal of balance lines is the word balanced,  
exactly the same and the RF will be canceled out.These things have 
to be planned very carefully.  I have run balanced here and had no RF 
showing on my field strength meter,  if it does,  there is a problem. 

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ

 


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[Flexradio] VS2008

[Gwyn Williams]

Hi All,

I have the new version running and just worked K1RM with my 5000A and a folded 
dipole, so it's working.
Just one comment concerning the main form (window), 100 does show completely in 
the "Drive, AGC-T and AF" windows.

Best to all,
Gwyn - G4FKH
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Re: [Flexradio] Use in expedition

[Lee A Crocker]

The problem is one of focus, but the solution is not an X windows type mouse 
because what you really want is your mouse running one app while your key board 
runs the other.  I'm not sure how to solve that problem unless you somehow 
included a logging module or some way to access the logging programs backend 
from the PSDR front end.

73  W9OY



  
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Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs

[Chris seeber]

Dudley,

Thanks.  Yes, there is no doubt an "out of balance" situation going on
here.  The lines are the same length, but they do come very close to the
PC (tower) case and are also routed too close to the ground wires in the
shack.  There's no other way to route them in here.  That's why I need
to get them outside and run coax in.  I am hoping that will solve most
of the trouble.

Chris,
KA1GEU

-Original Message-
From: Dudley Hurry [mailto:jhu...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:51 PM
To: Chris seeber
Cc: mindaugas2...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Balanced vs. unbalanced microphone inputs

Chris,

If you are using balanced line and getting RFI,  something is out of 
balanced,  most likely the latter line.   You must be careful that the 
lengths of both lines are exactly the same,  and that includes the 
antenna.   And ANY metal objects close to either side will throw it out 
of balance.   The whole ideal of balance lines is the word balanced,  
exactly the same and the RF will be canceled out.These things have 
to be planned very carefully.  I have run balanced here and had no RF 
showing on my field strength meter,  if it does,  there is a problem. 

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ

 


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