Re: [Flexradio] [SPAM] 6 Meter Preamps

2009-06-22 Thread Tim Ellison
I have found that the F3K really doesn't need a preamp like the F5K does for 
weak signal work, but if you must use one, I would recommend a mast-mounted 
preamp with variable gain so that you don't overload the F3K front end.  I am 
partial to SSB preamps.  A bit pricey, but well made and hold up well.


-Tim




From: Larry da Ponte [mailto:n7bcp.la...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:52 PM
To: Tim Ellison
Cc: Larry Savage; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] [SPAM] 6 Meter Preamps

I'm looking for a recommendation on a 6 meter preamp for the Flex 3K for meteor 
scatter work - will the suggestions in this thread work for the 3K/scatter too 
or is that a different animal?

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Tim Ellison 
telli...@itsco.commailto:telli...@itsco.com wrote:
And I'll add the Down East Microwave (DEMI) 6MLNA to the list.  BNC connectors 
and runs off of 13. VDC  Good gain and a low NF.



-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz]
 On Behalf Of Larry Savage
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:58 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [SPAM] [Flexradio] 6 Meter Preamps


There are a number of candidate preamps for 6 metersI have detailed three 
of these
1) Advanced receiver 
(www.advancedreceiver.comhttp://www.advancedreceiver.com) part number = 
P50VDG (my choice for 6 only).has BNC connectors2) Elecraft 
(www.elecraft.comhttp://www.elecraft.com) partnumber = PR6 has BNC 
connectors3) Minicircuits (www.minicircuits.comhttp://www.minicircuits.com) 
partnumber = ZFL-1000LN+ (my choice as it works on other bands also)..has 
SMA connectors Place the preamp in the RX1 loop circuit.The RX1 loop 
circuit has BNC connectors...Two short coax jumpers are required to connect the 
preamp..All preamps listed use +12VDC for power
WA4CAX...73s
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Re: [Flexradio] Audio on the FLEX-3000

2009-06-22 Thread Tim Ellison
I don't have any tips on the VOX sensitivity.  Sorry.  Maybe once the current 
round of DSP improvements are made, then the VOX and the noise gate will get 
some attention to tweak them up a bit. 


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: Jim Barber [mailto:audio...@charter.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:26 PM
To: Tim Ellison
Cc: Larry da Ponte; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Audio on the FLEX-3000

The PR-781 sounds excellent on the 5K, it'll be interesting to see how it does 
on the 3K.

Thread hijack:
Tim: VOX is a bit painful (on the 5K at least) with lower-output mics (like the 
PR-781) connected to the rear panel balanced input. Any particular tips?

And another by-the-way:
For experimentation's sake I ordered a batch of cheap Chinese Shure SM-58A 
knock-offs. If they turn out to sound decent on the 5K I'll report back.

--jim


Tim Ellison wrote:
 Subject line rebranding done and extraneous messages removed.

 Although Julius' stuff is the BOMB (an excellent piece of audio gear), and I 
 do have the EQplus, I no longer use it on my FLEX-5000 or FLEX-3000.  I just 
 use the internal 10-band EQ and feed the microphone straight in.  I was using 
 the EQplus initially with the FLEX-3000 so that I could get a Heil iC 
 microphone element working (it requires a bias voltage).  I have switched to 
 using just the PR-40 for both rigs.


 -Tim



 
 From: Larry da Ponte [mailto:n7bcp.la...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:12 PM
 To: Tim Ellison
 Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] It Works!! No more RFI*

 This thread may be morphing so feel free to rebrand the subject :)  Tim - 
 makes sense - will try the external receiver to monitor - I noticed you use a 
 W2IHQ EQ - is this what you're talking about or the use of the PowerSDR EQ?

 On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Tim Ellison 
 telli...@itsco.commailto:telli...@itsco.com wrote:
 Larry, if you get a chance to listen with another receiver to your 
 transmitted audio, that will help.  The Monitor is not limited to 3K 
 like most receivers (that are not FLEX SDRs) so your voice will sound 
 a little different over the air and may need some additional EQing to 
 get it sounding good on one of those old style radios with detectors 
 and firmware defined DSP chips :-)


 -Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: 
 flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.b
 iz 
 [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexradio-boun...@flex
 -radio.biz] On Behalf Of Larry da Ponte
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:57 PM
 To: Tim (W4TME)
 Cc: FlexRadio Reflector; Harold Rosee
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] It Works!! No more RFI*

 I recently wired a Heil PR-781 to my Flex 3K and it sounds very full- bodied 
 through the monitor - will give a full report after Field Day is over as the 
 3000 will be the center of attention during the event.
 In fact the 3000 is generating a lot of interest by local hams who want to 
 come over and see.


 -Larry

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Re: [Flexradio] Space Navigator support

2009-06-22 Thread Edward Russell
I merged the SpaceNavigator support to the Test branch. It is working in the
current SVN 3184.

73 Ed W2RF

 -Original Message-
 From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:58 PM
 To: FlexRadio Reflector
 Subject: [Flexradio] Space Navigator support
 
 Could we please get support for the 3dConnexion Space Navigator
 reinstated. W2RF's version of PowerSDR does not work with the latest
 version of the driver (or is it the firmware?), and no support for this
 device is included in the official version -- why not? Nobody has to
 use it if s/he doesn't want to.
 
 73
 
 Alan NV8A
 
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Re: [Flexradio] It Works!! No more RFI*****************

2009-06-22 Thread Lee A Crocker
The fact that you get RF in the shack and on 75 and 40 into any rig is a dead 
giveaway that RF is coming in on the antenna   I tihnk in the end it will prove 
to be that alpha delta antenna that is the culprit

73  



  
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[Flexradio] Good News on Remoting the 5K

2009-06-22 Thread Harryhahn


 
For VE7XS and others.as a remote control Flex 5K user, here is some  
good news.
 
I have new beta software I am testing now installed in my Wavenode WN-2  
that allows NEW momentary control of a relay that WILL be installed in my Flex 
 5K to turn on and off the Flex. This has been an issue for those that have 
a 5k  for some time. Wavenode (Al Burros), at my request, has made outputs 
1 and 2 of  the Wavenode optionally a pulsed output. Configure the relay 
operation in setup  for momentary or latched. I hope to have the relay 
installed in my  Flex 5 K soonon the road this week so it will have to 
wait. 
Theoretically  here will be the new operation for remote:
 
- Asus motherboard on PC has remote wake up which turns on PC
- Wavenode program turns on 5K (I confirm power on for 5k on Wavenode  
logical inputlights Green)
- Turn on AC for SGC power amp supply, and powers on antenna switcher  
(removes antennas from ground also)
- Wavenode WN-2 used to reset SGC-500 power amp if amp trips for some  
reason (You can see if it trips as logical input on Wavenode shows SGC  tripped)
 
Audio is Skype with VAC and remote control is using Windows Remote Desktop 
 
Of course, the Wavenode WN-2 gives me beautiful power out display, splatter 
 scope, spectrum output of Power AMP, etc. If you have a 5K with a power 
amp, the  Wavenode WN-2 is a must! Now also use it to power on your Flex 
5K.
 
Harry
W9BR

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Re: [Flexradio] Good News on Remoting the 5K

2009-06-22 Thread FireBrick

Interesting question for you.
If your in 7O (Yemen and the only country I don't have a legal card from), 
and you remote to your rig at your home station.

If I work you, do I get credit for Yemen  or USA 9 Land? LOL LOL

Please go there so we can find out!


On 6/22/2009 7:58:12 AM, harryh...@aol.com wrote:

For VE7XS and others.as a remote control Flex 5K user, here is some
good news.

I have new beta software I am testing now installed in my Wavenode WN-2
that allows NEW momentary control of a relay that WILL be installed in my
Flex
5K to turn on and off the Flex. This has been an issue for those that have

a 5k  for some time. Wavenode (Al Burros), at my request, has made outputs

1 and 2 of  the Wavenode optionally a pulsed output. Configure the relay
operation in setup  for momentary or latched. I hope to have the relay
installed in my  Flex 5 K soonon the road this week so it will have to
wait.
Theoretically  here will be the new operation for remote:

- Asus motherboard on PC has remote wake up which turns on PC
- Wavenode program turns on 5K (I confirm power on for 5k on Wavenode
logical inputlights Green)
- Turn on AC for SGC power amp supply, and powers on antenna switcher
(removes antennas from ground also)
- Wavenode WN-2 used to reset SGC-500 power amp if amp trips for some
reason (You can see if it trips as logical input on Wavenode shows SGC
tripped)

Audio is Skype with VAC and remote control is using Windows Remo 



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Re: [Flexradio] Good News on Remoting the 5K

2009-06-22 Thread Neal Campbell
While I am an incredibly happy WN-2 owner, you can also order the
array solutions power meter when you order your new Flex radio. I am
not so familiar with the Array Solutions meter but I believe it has
some of the programming capabilities of the WN-2, check it out!

Neal Campbell
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Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 242 0911




On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:40 AM, FireBrickw...@billnjudy.com wrote:
 Interesting question for you.
 If your in 7O (Yemen and the only country I don't have a legal card from),
 and you remote to your rig at your home station.
 If I work you, do I get credit for Yemen  or USA 9 Land? LOL LOL

 Please go there so we can find out!


 On 6/22/2009 7:58:12 AM, harryh...@aol.com wrote:

 For VE7XS and others.as a remote control Flex 5K user, here is some
 good news.

 I have new beta software I am testing now installed in my Wavenode WN-2
 that allows NEW momentary control of a relay that WILL be installed in my
 Flex
 5K to turn on and off the Flex. This has been an issue for those that have

 a 5k  for some time. Wavenode (Al Burros), at my request, has made outputs

 1 and 2 of  the Wavenode optionally a pulsed output. Configure the relay
 operation in setup  for momentary or latched. I hope to have the relay
 installed in my  Flex 5 K soonon the road this week so it will have to
 wait.
 Theoretically  here will be the new operation for remote:

 - Asus motherboard on PC has remote wake up which turns on PC
 - Wavenode program turns on 5K (I confirm power on for 5k on Wavenode
 logical inputlights Green)
 - Turn on AC for SGC power amp supply, and powers on antenna switcher
 (removes antennas from ground also)
 - Wavenode WN-2 used to reset SGC-500 power amp if amp trips for some
 reason (You can see if it trips as logical input on Wavenode shows SGC
 tripped)

 Audio is Skype with VAC and remote control is using Windows Remo


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Re: [Flexradio] Why An Extra Pre Amp On Six Meters

2009-06-22 Thread Dan Eisenman

Hi Clay;
Thanks for your observations , have you actually put a signal  
generator on it ?
Just wondering what the microvolt sensitivity level is , then compared  
to having the preamp on  ?

73
Dan
K8ICB in Florida

On Jun 21, 2009, at 2:17 AM, Clay W7CE wrote:

Without a preamp, you haven't been hearing the weak ones.  Assuming  
that your local noise level isn't incredibly high, the stations that  
sound weak without a preamp, won't sound weak with it.  The stations  
that sound weak with the preamp on, are non-existant without it.   
I've measured the 6M noise figure and it is about 21 dB without the  
preamp and 2 dB with it.  My preamp has 26 dB of gain, which is more  
than I really need.  I've added an HP 0-12 dB step attenuator after  
the preamp to reduce the gain when desired.  I typically see my  
noise floor drop 8-9 dB when I turn on the preamp (more when local  
QRN is minimum).  I'm still experimenting with the best attenuator  
setting, but I'd say you want at least 16-20 dB of gain.


I own five 6 Meter rigs, and the 5000A is the best by far since I  
added the preamp.


73,
Clay  W7CE


- Original Message - From: Dan Eisenman k8...@allprophoto.net 


To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:52 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] Why An Extra Pre Amp On Six Meters


I have been using my 5000A on six meters , seems to work great as  
is ,  I have been
reading about the 3000 not needing a Pre Amp but adding one on the   
5000A.
Just curious if any real lab test were run to confirm this data ?  
The 5000A seems fine to me , I don't seem to have any

trouble hearing and working the weak ones .
73
Dan
K8ICB in Florida

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Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-22 Thread Gerald Youngblood
Jack,

This is very much what we are thinking.  The new reflector will be for all
unreleased software or firmware testing.  The existing reflector will be for
the then current Official Release only.

Gerald

Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
President
FlexRadio Systems
13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-535-4713
www.flex-radio.com

Tune in excitement! (TM) 


-Original Message-
From: Jack Haverty [mailto:j...@3kitty.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 9:48 PM
To: ger...@flex-radio.com
Cc: 'Howard S. White'; mnar...@comcast.net; 'Dave Gomberg';
flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

Splitting the discussions is a great idea.  

I suggest that the Experimental Group be defined to include *any*
unreleased and/or unsupported software or hardware - not just the
SVN-managed code.

For example, discussions of PowerSDR issues that use Windows 7 beta,
even with the current released PowerSDR, can also be very misleading
about the stability and ease of use of the straight everything-released
configurations.  If you're not computer savvy enough to know what
Windows 7 is, and remember its beta status at the time a particular
message was written, you could easily get the wrong impression -- even
many months later while searching the forum archives after Windows 7 is
released.

Same with the use of unsupported, but released, OSes.  It may work on
Windows 7 or Mac OS or Linux/Wine, but they're not in the PowerSDR
Operating System Compatibility Statement, so they should be classed
Experimental.

The Flex Radio is a combination of the Flex- hardware, the
PowerSDR software, the PC OS, and any other components (like VAC,
ddutil, etc.)  If any of these are not released and supported versions,
I think any discussion of that configuration should be categorized as
experimental.

IMHO, the Experimental Group isn't a group of *people*.   It's a group
of all *system configurations* that contain any unreleased or
unsupported components. 

/Jack K3FIV


On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 08:54 -0500, Gerald Youngblood wrote:
 Membership in the Experimental Group will be open to all FlexRadio
 customers who are willing to follow the rules associated with the
privilege.
 We reserve the right to restrict access to certain highly experimental SVN
 branches until they are stable enough for testing outside the developer
 group itself.  One important rule that comes with the privilege: Do not
 expect technical support from FlexRadio when running any software other
than
 the then current Official Release.  
 
 Let me note that virtually all public and private comments on this topic
 have been extremely supportive of making the split in the reflector.  We
 will put a lot of thought into how we proceed before we pull the trigger
on
 the change.  
 
 73,
 Gerald
 
 Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
 President
 FlexRadio Systems
 13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
 Austin, TX 78729
 Phone: 512-535-4713
 www.flex-radio.com
 
 Tune in excitement! (TM) 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Howard S. White [mailto:drpa...@kleega.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:25 PM
 To: ger...@flex-radio.com; mnar...@comcast.net; Dave Gomberg
 Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: RE: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher
 
 I do agree that for marketing purposes you need to separate the Support
 Reflector from the Experimental Group.
 
 There are a lot of people who do not understand the difference between
 Support and Experimentaion and it is pretty obvious that your
 competitors are pointing to the bugs incurred in Experimentation as
 being symptomatic of product defects.
 
 Please do not limit membership to the Experimental Group.
 
 A lot of people lurk in the background reading the issues about the
 latest developments and occasionally we may actually have something
 useful to contribute.
 
  By restricting membership in the Experimental Group, you will be
 cutting yourself off from a very valuable resource and ultimately
 slowing your developmental progress.   
 
 So please do not cut your nose off to spite your face.
 
 __
 Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6  ex-AE6SM  KY6LA
 Website: www.ky6la.com 
 No Good Deed Goes Unpunished
 Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003  2007 San Diego Fires, 911
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
 [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Youngblood
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:50 PM
 To: mnar...@comcast.net; 'Dave Gomberg'
 Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher
 
 Mike,
 
 I am sure we can find a happy medium that meets the interests of both
 groups.  We will put a lot of thought into it, taking into account all
 of the comments we are getting on the subject.  Foremost, there needs to
 be some qualification of who fits in which group and where they
 communicate.  I also agree that it should be called,
 

Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

2009-06-22 Thread Gerald Youngblood
Marty,

I agree that the released versions of DDUtil, VAC, etc. are not experimental
when running on SUPPORTED operating systems.  However, if one is trying to
run them on currently unsupported operating systems, they would then be
properly characterized as experimental.

Gerald

Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
President
FlexRadio Systems
13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-535-4713
www.flex-radio.com

Tune in excitement! (TM) 


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of brahman...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:25 AM
To: j...@3kitty.org; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher

That would really be misleading to potential customers. Ddutil, VAC usage  
as experimental? When I bought the Flex I was really surprised to find all

of  the contortions necessary to make it perform the digital modes.
 
73,
Marty
 
 
In a message dated 6/19/2009 9:48:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
j...@3kitty.org writes:

Splitting the discussions is a great idea.  

I suggest that  the Experimental Group be defined to include *any*
unreleased and/or  unsupported software or hardware - not just the
SVN-managed  code.

For example, discussions of PowerSDR issues that use Windows 7  beta,
even with the current released PowerSDR, can also be very  misleading
about the stability and ease of use of the straight  everything-released
configurations.  If you're not computer savvy  enough to know what
Windows 7 is, and remember its beta status at the time  a particular
message was written, you could easily get the wrong impression  -- even
many months later while searching the forum archives after Windows  7 is
released.

Same with the use of unsupported, but released,  OSes.  It may work on
Windows 7 or Mac OS or Linux/Wine, but they're  not in the PowerSDR
Operating System Compatibility Statement, so they  should be classed
Experimental.

The Flex Radio is a combination of  the Flex- hardware, the
PowerSDR software, the PC OS, and any other  components (like VAC,
ddutil, etc.)  If any of these are not released  and supported versions,
I think any discussion of that configuration should  be categorized as
experimental.

IMHO, the Experimental Group isn't  a group of *people*.   It's a group
of all *system  configurations* that contain any unreleased or
unsupported components.  

/Jack K3FIV


On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 08:54 -0500, Gerald  Youngblood wrote:
 Membership in the Experimental Group will be open  to all FlexRadio
 customers who are willing to follow the rules  associated with the 
privilege.
 We reserve the right to restrict access  to certain highly experimental 
SVN
 branches until they are stable  enough for testing outside the developer
 group itself.  One  important rule that comes with the privilege: Do not
 expect technical  support from FlexRadio when running any software other 
than
 the then  current Official Release.  
 
 Let me note that virtually  all public and private comments on this topic
 have been extremely  supportive of making the split in the reflector.  We
 will put a  lot of thought into how we proceed before we pull the trigger 
on
 the  change.  
 
 73,
 Gerald
 
 Gerald  Youngblood, K5SDR
 President
 FlexRadio Systems
 13091  Pond Springs Rd. #250
 Austin, TX 78729
 Phone:  512-535-4713
 www.flex-radio.com
 
 Tune in excitement!  (TM) 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From:  Howard S. White [mailto:drpa...@kleega.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18,  2009 6:25 PM
 To: ger...@flex-radio.com; mnar...@comcast.net; Dave  Gomberg
 Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: RE: [Flexradio]  All using SVN 3166 or higher
 
 I do agree that for marketing  purposes you need to separate the Support
 Reflector from the  Experimental Group.
 
 There are a lot of people who do not  understand the difference between
 Support and Experimentaion and it is  pretty obvious that your
 competitors are pointing to the bugs incurred  in Experimentation as
 being symptomatic of product defects.
  
 Please do not limit membership to the Experimental Group.
  
 A lot of people lurk in the background reading the issues about  the
 latest developments and occasionally we may actually have  something
 useful to contribute.
 
  By restricting  membership in the Experimental Group, you will be
 cutting yourself off  from a very valuable resource and ultimately
 slowing your  developmental progress.   
 
 So please do not cut  your nose off to spite your face.
 
  __
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 Website:  www.ky6la.com 
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 Ham Antennas  Save Lives - Katrina, 2003  2007 San Diego Fires, 911
   
 
 -Original Message-
 From:  flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
  [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald  Youngblood
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:50 PM
 To:  

[Flexradio] FS/FT: Flex radio SDR-1000 Package

2009-06-22 Thread k7xq

FS: Flex radio SDR-1000 Package

  I have a Flex Radio SDR-1000 1 W version with DEM 144 MHz transverter,
EDIROL FA-66 sound module, firewire computer card, firewire cable, manual,

  SDR software and all required drivers. All in excellent condition.
 $750.00 paypal preferred.

 Would also consider trade for the following:

 Icom IC-7000
 4 X M2 2MPX28's 144 MHz antennas
500 W+ 1296 MHz tube amp
GS35B HF amplifier w/80M and 160Mcapabilities.

  Jeff K7XQ
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Re: [Flexradio] Audio on the FLEX-3000

2009-06-22 Thread Brian Lloyd
 From: Jim Barber [mailto:audio...@charter.net]

 Thread hijack:
 Tim: VOX is a bit painful (on the 5K at least) with lower-output mics (like 
 the PR-781) connected to the rear panel balanced input. Any particular tips?

I ran into this at the very beginning with my F5K. For my testing I
used a Shure SM58 with a cable that let me plug into the front-panel
mic jack and a second cable for the rear-panel 1/4 TRS balanced-in on
the back. I could switch input just by plugging the proper XLR
connector into the mic. From a purely audio point-of-view, either
worked just fine after mic gain adjustment. On-air tests indicated
that the two inputs were aurally indistinguishable.

But from the point-of-view of the VOX and noise gate the two inputs
made a big difference. It seems that the software is unaware of the
gain difference between the line-level balanced-in on the back and the
mic-level balanced-in on the front. Therefore you need to run the
noise-gate and VOX gain controls way up when running through the
rear-panel balanced line-in.

Since there was no audio advantage to either input I selected the one
for which the default settings for VOX, noise gate, etc., were most
compatible. That turned out to be the front-panel mic input. Clearly
that is where PowerSDR coders expect one to to connect a mic. (I would
have preferred the rear-panel 1/4 TRS connector since my mic has no
PTT and the rear panel is actually my front panel.)

Going on into the more technical realm, if all the audio channels were
mixed in hardware at the analog before being delivered to the audio
ADC there would be nothing one could do. But the interesting thing is,
if you look at the schematic for the F5K you see that all of the audio
sources are kept separate and appear at the ADC as separate channels.
This would allow the software to maintain separate gain settings for
all the inputs, thus allowing all the inputs to be normalized to a
single reference level so that the gain-dependent settings, e.g. mic
gain, VOX gain, compressor threshold, noise gate, etc., can be
referenced to that one reference level too.

From a hardware-design point-of-view, this was (IMHO) very
forward-thinking. The software doesn't seem to take advantage of this
right now but it strikes me as a relatively straight-forward
improvement. Perhaps in the new generation?

 And another by-the-way:
 For experimentation's sake I ordered a batch of cheap Chinese Shure SM-58A 
 knock-offs. If they turn out to sound decent on the 5K I'll report back.

How cheap? The SM58 is not all that expensive. Street prices are
around $100 and it is an excellent mic, probably as good a dynamic
voice mic as you are going to get. Shure itself has the PG58 which is
almost as good as the SM58 and has a street price of $60.

73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL

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Re: [Flexradio] Space Navigator support

2009-06-22 Thread Robert Bajuk
Hi Ed,

What about your RX2 (output to VAC) branch?

73 Robert

2009/6/22 Edward Russell e...@qrv.com

 I merged the SpaceNavigator support to the Test branch. It is working in
 the
 current SVN 3184.

 73 Ed W2RF

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  radio.biz] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
  Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:58 PM
  To: FlexRadio Reflector
  Subject: [Flexradio] Space Navigator support
 
  Could we please get support for the 3dConnexion Space Navigator
  reinstated. W2RF's version of PowerSDR does not work with the latest
  version of the driver (or is it the firmware?), and no support for this
  device is included in the official version -- why not? Nobody has to
  use it if s/he doesn't want to.
 
  73
 
  Alan NV8A
 
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Re: [Flexradio] Space Navigator support

2009-06-22 Thread Edward Russell
That part hasn't been merged with test. It's not a big deal though. I'll run
it by Eric.

73 Ed

 -Original Message-
 From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of Robert Bajuk
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:53 PM
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Space Navigator support
 
 Hi Ed,
 
 What about your RX2 (output to VAC) branch?
 
 73 Robert
 
 2009/6/22 Edward Russell e...@qrv.com
 
  I merged the SpaceNavigator support to the Test branch. It is working in
  the
  current SVN 3184.
 
  73 Ed W2RF
 
   -Original Message-
   From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-
   radio.biz] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
   Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:58 PM
   To: FlexRadio Reflector
   Subject: [Flexradio] Space Navigator support
  
   Could we please get support for the 3dConnexion Space Navigator
   reinstated. W2RF's version of PowerSDR does not work with the latest
   version of the driver (or is it the firmware?), and no support for
 this
   device is included in the official version -- why not? Nobody has to
   use it if s/he doesn't want to.
  
   73
  
   Alan NV8A
  
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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 50, Issue 22 5000C

2009-06-22 Thread W4ABW
Is there a separate reflector for the 5000C ?
 
tnx
Al
W4ABW
Raleigh
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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 50, Issue 22 5000C

2009-06-22 Thread Mike Naruta


Not at this time; it's all the FlexRadio models,

When the experimental group splits off to a
different reflector, the volume of posts for
the bleeding edge stuff here will decrease.


Mike - AA8K


w4...@aol.com wrote:

Is there a separate reflector for the 5000C ?
 
tnx

Al
W4ABW
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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 50, Issue 22 5000C

2009-06-22 Thread Tim Ellison
No, there is not.

At this time there is only one FlexRadio Systems Reflector.  In the future, 
software development and experimental code testers will have their own 
reflector to keep that traffic off of the mail reflector that is intended to be 
used primarily for discussing all aspects of FLEX radios that does not have to 
do with new software development or testing the radio (pushing the envelope) in 
unsupported environments.  There is no intention of splitting a reflector based 
on different hardware platforms.


-Tim


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To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 50, Issue 22 5000C

Is there a separate reflector for the 5000C ?
 
tnx
Al
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[Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes

2009-06-22 Thread Tim Ellison
It is recommended that everyone should review the PowerSDR release notes before 
installing a release.  If there are dependencies or caveats, they are noted 
there.  For PowerSDR 1.18.1, the Release Notes are found here in the Knowledge 
Center.  http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50419.aspx


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[Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 AGC-T lag

2009-06-22 Thread Jack Haverty
I've loaded PSDR 1.18.1 and it seems to work fine - Flex-3000, 3GHz
single-core PC, sampling 96KHz 512 buffers.  NR in particular seems to
be much more effective even though I thought 1.18.0 was good.

One change I've noticed between 1.18.1 and 1.18.0 is that the AGC-T
behavior seems to lag when you move the control slider - i.e., there is
a fraction of a second lag until the audio output changes.   This is on
USB, 20m, with only NR and SR active.

If I have a certain level of background noise in the speaker, then drag
the AGC-T to the right, the noise stays the same and then increases
maybe a 1/4 second later.  With 1.18.0 it used to be essentially
instantaneous.

Anybody else observe this behavior?  It's not really a problem, but I'm
wondering if it's an indication that my CPU isn't fast enough.  The
Computer-% reading doesn't change much as I do this, hovering in the 25%
range all the time. 

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Re: [Flexradio] RX2/VAC

2009-06-22 Thread kr7o

Can't wait until this shows up in an official release!


At 06:53 PM 6/22/2009 +0200, Robert Bajuk wrote:

Hi Ed,

What about your RX2 (output to VAC) branch?

73 Robert



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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes

2009-06-22 Thread roland etienne
Hello,

I think exactly the same as Joe, I use my SDR1000 with Ozy/Janus as sound
card and control, and I am a bit frustrated as I cannot play with PowerSdr
1.18.1!

What can I do?

73,
Roland, f8chk.


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De : flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] De la part de Joe - AB1DO
Envoyé : lundi 22 juin 2009 21:09
À : flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Objet : Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes

I noticed that in 1.18.1 support for HPSDR hardware has been removed in 
FlexRadio's official release. Although I certainly understand this from a 
commercial standpoint I would like to plead for one exception and that is 
the use of the Janus/Ozy sound card in combination with the SDR-1000. The 
reasons are the following:

There are still SDR-1000 users out there and many have added the Janus/Ozy 
soundcard to add a superior ADC/DAC when compared to any audio device.

Additionally, selecting Ozy as the control device enables the SDR-1000 user 
to replace all computer connections to the SDR-1000 with one single USB 
cable.

Although HPSDR has gone on to develop several more cards, many SDR-1000 
users have only purchased the Janus/Ozy combo specifically for the purpose 
of enhancing their SDR-1000 experience. Especially when FlexRadio supported 
Janus/Ozy. Maintaining support for Janus/Ozy enables users to continue the 
enhanced experience of a FlexRadio device (SDR-1000), sustains FlexRadio's 
statement of supporting all legacy devices as PowerSDR develops and may even

lead to future upgrades (FLEX 3000/FLEX-5000A). Although Janus/Ozy were not 
developed by FlexRadio, nor were any of the other sound cards and Janus/Ozy 
was (is?) a supported sound card if I'm not mistaken. At least, it is 
still in the list of sound cards to select in PowerSDR's start-up wizard 
(but selecting it seads to a PortAudio error).

Cernatinly, an HPSDR version of PowerSDR is available elsewhere (where?), 
which is great for those interested in HPSDR. But SDR-1000 users are 
interested in FlexRadio - and why drive such users away from FlexRAdio 
towards HPSDR?

73 de Joe - AB1DO

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From: Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 13:37
Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes


 It is recommended that everyone should review the PowerSDR release notes 
 before installing a release.  If there are dependencies or caveats, they 
 are noted there.  For PowerSDR 1.18.1, the Release Notes are found here in

 the Knowledge Center. 
 http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50419.aspx


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[Flexradio] Fw: Re: PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes

2009-06-22 Thread keega...@juno.com
Hello,

I also agree with Joe and Ronald.  I to use the Janus/Ozy sound card.   1.18.0 
works fine but 1.18.1 give and error about no audio devise.  In the set up 
there is a selection for the Janus/Ozy set up.

Bob
AC8O


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To: 'Joe - AB1DO' ab...@optonline.net, flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:34:58 +0200

Hello,

I think exactly the same as Joe, I use my SDR1000 with Ozy/Janus as sound
card and control, and I am a bit frustrated as I cannot play with PowerSdr
1.18.1!

What can I do?

73,
Roland, f8chk.


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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] De la part de Joe - AB1DO
Envoyé : lundi 22 juin 2009 21:09
À : flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Objet : Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes

I noticed that in 1.18.1 support for HPSDR hardware has been removed in 
FlexRadio's official release. Although I certainly understand this from a 
commercial standpoint I would like to plead for one exception and that is 
the use of the Janus/Ozy sound card in combination with the SDR-1000. The 
reasons are the following:

There are still SDR-1000 users out there and many have added the Janus/Ozy 
soundcard to add a superior ADC/DAC when compared to any audio device.

Additionally, selecting Ozy as the control device enables the SDR-1000 user 
to replace all computer connections to the SDR-1000 with one single USB 
cable.

Although HPSDR has gone on to develop several more cards, many SDR-1000 
users have only purchased the Janus/Ozy combo specifically for the purpose 
of enhancing their SDR-1000 experience. Especially when FlexRadio supported 
Janus/Ozy. Maintaining support for Janus/Ozy enables users to continue the 
enhanced experience of a FlexRadio device (SDR-1000), sustains FlexRadio's 
statement of supporting all legacy devices as PowerSDR develops and may even

lead to future upgrades (FLEX 3000/FLEX-5000A). Although Janus/Ozy were not 
developed by FlexRadio, nor were any of the other sound cards and Janus/Ozy 
was (is?) a supported sound card if I'm not mistaken. At least, it is 
still in the list of sound cards to select in PowerSDR's start-up wizard 
(but selecting it seads to a PortAudio error).

Cernatinly, an HPSDR version of PowerSDR is available elsewhere (where?), 
which is great for those interested in HPSDR. But SDR-1000 users are 
interested in FlexRadio - and why drive such users away from FlexRAdio 
towards HPSDR?

73 de Joe - AB1DO

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 13:37
Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes


 It is recommended that everyone should review the PowerSDR release notes 
 before installing a release.  If there are dependencies or caveats, they 
 are noted there.  For PowerSDR 1.18.1, the Release Notes are found here in

 the Knowledge Center. 
 http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50419.aspx


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Re: [Flexradio] v1.18.1 PTT ticked off

2009-06-22 Thread Burt

As it turned out the N8VM program had disapeared from my computer REINSTALLED, 
it now works although one of my contacts the ham was 100% macros, wondered why 
I bothered to get it on PSK. 
The other contact was real
Burt

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, Al Groff a.gr...@mchsi.com wrote:

 From: Al Groff a.gr...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] v1.18.1 PTT ticked off
 To: Burt k1...@yahoo.com
 Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 4:59 PM
 Burt,
   com0com is a program similar to VCOM that allows you
 to interconnect the Mixw ( or other modem program) CAT
 signal to the PSDR..  It provides a bi directional data
 path by simulating a pair of comports.    (
 com0com will work with XP or vista, VCOM works only with XP
 ).    See 
 http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50078.aspx?Keywords=com0com
 
   I have my com0com configured such that com6 is
 paired with com16 and com7 is paired with com17.. You may
 not need both but I find two useful for programs that do not
 support PTT via CAT but use a separate com port for PTT. 
   In Mixw, I have configured TRCVR CAT/PTT to use
 Kenwood, COM6(56700) and PTT VIA CAT and afsk in place of
 FSK.
 
   In PSDR SetupCAT I have enabled CAT on port 16
 at 56700
 
 I hope this helps
 
 Al, K0VM
 
 
 Burt wrote:
 
  Where is the com0com setting?
  
  --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Al Groff a.gr...@mchsi.com
 wrote:
  
    
  From: Al Groff a.gr...@mchsi.com
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] v1.18.1 PTT ticked off
  To: k1...@yahoo.com
  Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 2:57 PM
  Burt,
    1.18.1 seems to have corrected,
 the CAT PTT problem
  that was in 1.18.0..  At least it has for
 me..
    My Mixw 2.18 runs fine with
 1.18.1 and Flex
  5000C...
    I use com0com for the CAT
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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 AGC-T lag

2009-06-22 Thread Bob McGwier

What is your AGC setting ,  SLOW or LONG?

Try medium.

Bob
N4HY


Jack Haverty wrote:

I've loaded PSDR 1.18.1 and it seems to work fine - Flex-3000, 3GHz
single-core PC, sampling 96KHz 512 buffers.  NR in particular seems to
be much more effective even though I thought 1.18.0 was good.

One change I've noticed between 1.18.1 and 1.18.0 is that the AGC-T
behavior seems to lag when you move the control slider - i.e., there is
a fraction of a second lag until the audio output changes.   This is on
USB, 20m, with only NR and SR active.

If I have a certain level of background noise in the speaker, then drag
the AGC-T to the right, the noise stays the same and then increases
maybe a 1/4 second later.  With 1.18.0 it used to be essentially
instantaneous.

Anybody else observe this behavior?  It's not really a problem, but I'm
wondering if it's an indication that my CPU isn't fast enough.  The
Computer-% reading doesn't change much as I do this, hovering in the 25%
range all the time. 


Jack K3FIV

  


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Re: [Flexradio] RX2/VAC

2009-06-22 Thread Robert Bajuk
Agree fully ... It would be really nice to have RX2 to VAC option in an
official release

73 Robert

2009/6/22 k...@vhfdx.com

 Can't wait until this shows up in an official release!


 At 06:53 PM 6/22/2009 +0200, Robert Bajuk wrote:

 Hi Ed,

 What about your RX2 (output to VAC) branch?

 73 Robert


 73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee  (ex.  N7STU)
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Re: [Flexradio] RX2/VAC

2009-06-22 Thread Jerry Flanders
I am using a stereo cable from the back of the 5k to my computer 
sound card and can process rx1 audio in the right channel and rx2 
audio in the left.


Jerry W4UK

At 21:11 6/22/2009, Robert Bajuk wrote:

Agree fully ... It would be really nice to have RX2 to VAC option in an
official release

73 Robert

2009/6/22 k...@vhfdx.com

 Can't wait until this shows up in an official release!


 At 06:53 PM 6/22/2009 +0200, Robert Bajuk wrote:

 Hi Ed,

 What about your RX2 (output to VAC) branch?

 73 Robert


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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 AGC-T lag

2009-06-22 Thread Jack Haverty
Bob,

I think you're on to something.

With AGC at slow, medium, or long, there is a noticeable lag.  It may be
different length of time within those three, my ears aren't calibrated
enough to say for sure.

With AGC at fast or fixed, there is no perceptible (to me) lag.

In all cases, any lag occurs only when sliding the cursor from
left-to-right.  There is no lag going right-to-left in any setting.

Someone emailed me to say that the same behavior also happens with his
quad-core machine, so I conclude it's not my CPU.

I'm not sure that this is a problem or is the intended behavior.  It's
most noticeable when you've had the AGC set for strong signals, and
slide it right to bring up a weak one.  Can blow your ears off if you're
not careful...  I'm used to it now so I just move the cursor slowly and
let it catch up.  I usually use the medium setting.

73,
/Jack




On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 16:38 -0400, Bob McGwier wrote:
 What is your AGC setting ,  SLOW or LONG?
 
 Try medium.
 
 Bob
 N4HY
 
 
 Jack Haverty wrote:
  I've loaded PSDR 1.18.1 and it seems to work fine - Flex-3000, 3GHz
  single-core PC, sampling 96KHz 512 buffers.  NR in particular seems to
  be much more effective even though I thought 1.18.0 was good.
 
  One change I've noticed between 1.18.1 and 1.18.0 is that the AGC-T
  behavior seems to lag when you move the control slider - i.e., there is
  a fraction of a second lag until the audio output changes.   This is on
  USB, 20m, with only NR and SR active.
 
  If I have a certain level of background noise in the speaker, then drag
  the AGC-T to the right, the noise stays the same and then increases
  maybe a 1/4 second later.  With 1.18.0 it used to be essentially
  instantaneous.
 
  Anybody else observe this behavior?  It's not really a problem, but I'm
  wondering if it's an indication that my CPU isn't fast enough.  The
  Computer-% reading doesn't change much as I do this, hovering in the 25%
  range all the time. 
 
  Jack K3FIV
 

 


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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 AGC-T lag

2009-06-22 Thread N4PY2
It's not a problem.  It is just the AGC itself.  AGC changes in AGC-T are 
just following the AGC rate.


Carl Moreschi N4PY
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Hays, NC 28635
- Original Message - 
From: Jack Haverty j...@3kitty.org

To: Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 AGC-T lag



Bob,

I think you're on to something.

With AGC at slow, medium, or long, there is a noticeable lag.  It may be
different length of time within those three, my ears aren't calibrated
enough to say for sure.

With AGC at fast or fixed, there is no perceptible (to me) lag.

In all cases, any lag occurs only when sliding the cursor from
left-to-right.  There is no lag going right-to-left in any setting.

Someone emailed me to say that the same behavior also happens with his
quad-core machine, so I conclude it's not my CPU.

I'm not sure that this is a problem or is the intended behavior.  It's
most noticeable when you've had the AGC set for strong signals, and
slide it right to bring up a weak one.  Can blow your ears off if you're
not careful...  I'm used to it now so I just move the cursor slowly and
let it catch up.  I usually use the medium setting.

73,
/Jack




On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 16:38 -0400, Bob McGwier wrote:

What is your AGC setting ,  SLOW or LONG?

Try medium.

Bob
N4HY


Jack Haverty wrote:
 I've loaded PSDR 1.18.1 and it seems to work fine - Flex-3000, 3GHz
 single-core PC, sampling 96KHz 512 buffers.  NR in particular seems to
 be much more effective even though I thought 1.18.0 was good.

 One change I've noticed between 1.18.1 and 1.18.0 is that the AGC-T
 behavior seems to lag when you move the control slider - i.e., there is
 a fraction of a second lag until the audio output changes.   This is on
 USB, 20m, with only NR and SR active.

 If I have a certain level of background noise in the speaker, then drag
 the AGC-T to the right, the noise stays the same and then increases
 maybe a 1/4 second later.  With 1.18.0 it used to be essentially
 instantaneous.

 Anybody else observe this behavior?  It's not really a problem, but I'm
 wondering if it's an indication that my CPU isn't fast enough.  The
 Computer-% reading doesn't change much as I do this, hovering in the 
 25%

 range all the time.

 Jack K3FIV






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[Flexradio] Strange noise

2009-06-22 Thread Dave Gomberg
If I tune my F3K running PSDR 1.18.0 antenna to 20m (1.1 SWR) and in 
SSB, PTT in silence, there are pulses on the external power 
meter.  If I record it and play it back, there is a kind of crackling 
sound at the beginning of the transmission for 1-2.  Happens with 
MOX, so its not the PTT switch.







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[Flexradio] Splitting the reflector? I think it's a bad idea.

2009-06-22 Thread gelatin...@juno.com
Hi Guys, 
I just had to chime in about the idea of splitting up the reflector.  I really 
look forward to my daily digest from Flex that ranges from the beginner to the 
developers of the SVN software.   We have excellent support from staff at 
Flex-radio.  
Do we really want to split their time between TWO reflectors?  

Take a look at the Flex-radio.com forums.  They are a virtual ghost town.  The 
dates between posts is huge and the responses are minimal from members.  The 
vast majority of persons hang out on this reflector and a much smaller minority 
on the Yahoo group.  
I for see the split causing something similar.  This reflector will be used 
less and less as the more experienced folk run to the new and improved 
reflector with no newbies! 
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Re: [Flexradio] RX2/VAC

2009-06-22 Thread Edward Russell
That's good. However we're talking about direct I/Q output of RX2, not
audio.

 -Original Message-
 From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of Jerry Flanders
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:37 PM
 To: Robert Bajuk; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] RX2/VAC
 
 I am using a stereo cable from the back of the 5k to my computer
 sound card and can process rx1 audio in the right channel and rx2
 audio in the left.
 
 Jerry W4UK
 
 At 21:11 6/22/2009, Robert Bajuk wrote:
 Agree fully ... It would be really nice to have RX2 to VAC option in an
 official release
 
 73 Robert
 
 2009/6/22 k...@vhfdx.com
 
   Can't wait until this shows up in an official release!
  
  
   At 06:53 PM 6/22/2009 +0200, Robert Bajuk wrote:
  
   Hi Ed,
  
   What about your RX2 (output to VAC) branch?
  
   73 Robert
  
  
   73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee  (ex.  N7STU)
   k...@vhfdx.com
  
   www.vhfdx.com (KR7O/YB2ARO homepages)
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Flexradio] Splitting the reflector? I think it's a bad idea.

2009-06-22 Thread Ray J
I fail to see why not... I think a LOT the traffic on this reflector 
scares away many people from buying a flex product..


really.. seriously .. it takes 10 seconds to sign up to a 2nd list.. and 
like its really hard to click on a 2nd digest message to see the Pre 
Realease software issues. ..


w9Ray


gelatin...@juno.com wrote:
Hi Guys, 
I just had to chime in about the idea of splitting up the reflector.  I really look forward to my daily digest from Flex that ranges from the beginner to the developers of the SVN software.   We have excellent support from staff at Flex-radio.  
Do we really want to split their time between TWO reflectors?  

Take a look at the Flex-radio.com forums.  They are a virtual ghost town.  The dates between posts is huge and the responses are minimal from members.  The vast majority of persons hang out on this reflector and a much smaller minority on the Yahoo group.  
I for see the split causing something similar.  This reflector will be used less and less as the more experienced folk run to the new and improved reflector with no newbies! 
George

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Re: [Flexradio] [SPAM] 6 Meter Preamps

2009-06-22 Thread Ray J
The flex 3000 does not have a RX only  port available  so you will have 
to get a preamp with relays to switch tx rf around the preamp so you 
don't blow the preamp up..


w9Ray



Larry da Ponte wrote:

I'm looking for a recommendation on a 6 meter preamp for the Flex 3K for
meteor scatter work - will the suggestions in this thread work for the
3K/scatter too or is that a different animal?

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com wrote:

  

And I'll add the Down East Microwave (DEMI) 6MLNA to the list.  BNC
connectors and runs off of 13. VDC  Good gain and a low NF.



-Tim

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There are a number of candidate preamps for 6 metersI have detailed
three of these
1) Advanced receiver (www.advancedreceiver.com) part number = P50VDG (my
choice for 6 only).has BNC connectors2) Elecraft (www.elecraft.com)
partnumber = PR6 has BNC connectors3) Minicircuits (
www.minicircuits.com) partnumber = ZFL-1000LN+ (my choice as it works on
other bands also)..has SMA connectors Place the preamp in the RX1 loop
circuit.The RX1 loop circuit has BNC connectors...Two short coax jumpers
are required to connect the preamp..All preamps listed use +12VDC for
power
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Re: [Flexradio] RX2/VAC

2009-06-22 Thread Jerry Flanders
But at this time, we are _only_ talking about using direct I/Q output 
of RX2 with VAC, right?


Until RX2 gets full VAC access, those wanting to use it for more than 
just listening will probably use a stereo cable.


Jerry W4UK

At 23:22 6/22/2009, Edward Russell wrote:

That's good. However we're talking about direct I/Q output of RX2, not
audio.

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 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:37 PM
 To: Robert Bajuk; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] RX2/VAC

 I am using a stereo cable from the back of the 5k to my computer
 sound card and can process rx1 audio in the right channel and rx2
 audio in the left.

 Jerry W4UK

 At 21:11 6/22/2009, Robert Bajuk wrote:
 Agree fully ... It would be really nice to have RX2 to VAC option in an
 official release
 
 73 Robert
 
 2009/6/22 k...@vhfdx.com
 
   Can't wait until this shows up in an official release!
  
  
   At 06:53 PM 6/22/2009 +0200, Robert Bajuk wrote:
  
   Hi Ed,
  
   What about your RX2 (output to VAC) branch?
  
   73 Robert
  
  
   73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee  (ex.  N7STU)
   k...@vhfdx.com
  
   www.vhfdx.com (KR7O/YB2ARO homepages)
  
  
  
  
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[Flexradio] Connecting an amplifier

2009-06-22 Thread William MacCracken
I need help understanding the Protective PTT Circuit Between TX1-3 and
Amplifier (Flex-5000 Owner's Manual v1.14 pdf page 10 (page 22 of 227 as
seen by Adobe Reader) . Figure 3).  I've today formed an idea of how it
works.  Initially, the schematic meant very little to me, now I may be right
or completely wrong.  My current understanding is as follows:

1.  If run without a circuit- just a RCA type cable from the radio to the
amp, TX1 shorts the cable when activating the amp.  Looked at another way,
if I plugged a cable into the amp I could key it by touching a wire to the
pin and ring on the other end.

2.  The 12V in the schematic is externally supplied.  When the radio
initiates its relay function electricity from the external source is able to
flow.  I am particularly concerned about this point because as I conceive it
the current is entering the radio through the TX1 jack, crossing over inside
the radio and leaving through the ring.

3.  The external power source exists only to power the relay.

4.  The schematic in the manual is in two noncontiguous parts.  The left
side of the right part is a look inside the relay.  Points labeled S1 and P1
correspond to the pins that are cabled to the amp.

If I am right about the above I still have question:

1.  What is the purpose of the diode.  I know diodes prevent current back
flow but I'd like some understanding of what it does here.

2.  I need part numbers or inclusive specifications for the diode and
relay.  I went to an electronics store with the printed page and they were
unable to help.

3.  Same goes for the power supply, unless it is a figment of my
mis-comprehension.

4.  If we translate the schematic into the real world, would the power
supply be at the top of the page or the bottom.  Take a power supply with
one red and one black wire- does the red wire connect to the bottom (labeled
12V GND) or the top (arrows pointed opposite of what I would assume.)  One
option doesn't make more sense than the other to me at this time.

My thanks to anyone taking the time to read this far, moreso to anyone who
responds.
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[Flexradio] Antenna Selection

2009-06-22 Thread Kevin Hobbs
I have an idea for what I consider would be an improvement in operating the
Flex.

 

I can't say that I am all that fussy about opening the Antenna form
whenever I want to change antennas. I really liked the way my  FTDX-9000
handled the antenna selection . it has a simple set of 5 buttons (Ant1,
Ant2, Ant3, Ant4, RX) . you can click any antenna for the Main or Sub or
both . and then they simply light the LED color to match the Main, or Sub,
or a Mixture color to indicate both Main and Sub sharing the same antenna. I
found this to be very good. Perhaps the Flex could take advantage of a
simple set of buttons like that? What does everyone else do . just leave
that form open all the time?

 

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Re: [Flexradio] Splitting the reflector? I think it's a bad idea.

2009-06-22 Thread gelatin...@juno.com
This reflector shows the work that goes into the Flex product development and 
convinced me to purchase my SDR-1000.   Also a new 3000 was purchased and 
should be here in a day or two, again thanks to this same reflector. 
The software development has been part of that. 
Of course it's not a big deal to sign up to another reflector.  But I'd hate to 
see the momentum and enthusiasm that this reflector has fade down to the level 
of the forums on the main website.  
George
N7BUI
-- Original Message --
From: Ray J r...@w9ray.org
To: gelatin...@juno.com gelatin...@juno.com,  FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Splitting the reflector? I think it's a bad idea.
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:43:53 -0500

I fail to see why not... I think a LOT the traffic on this reflector 
scares away many people from buying a flex product..

really.. seriously .. it takes 10 seconds to sign up to a 2nd list.. and 
like its really hard to click on a 2nd digest message to see the Pre 
Realease software issues. ..

w9Ray


gelatin...@juno.com wrote:
 Hi Guys, 
 I just had to chime in about the idea of splitting up the reflector.  I 
 really look forward to my daily digest from Flex that ranges from the 
 beginner to the developers of the SVN software.   We have excellent support 
 from staff at Flex-radio.  
 Do we really want to split their time between TWO reflectors?  

 Take a look at the Flex-radio.com forums.  They are a virtual ghost town.  
 The dates between posts is huge and the responses are minimal from members.  
 The vast majority of persons hang out on this reflector and a much smaller 
 minority on the Yahoo group.  
 I for see the split causing something similar.  This reflector will be used 
 less and less as the more experienced folk run to the new and improved 
 reflector with no newbies! 
 George
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[Flexradio] PSDR Locks Up

2009-06-22 Thread Bill Tynan
It's never happened before this morning. I was working 6 meters (managed to
work an EA8 and a D44). All of a sudden, the cross changed to an arrow and I
could not change frequency by moving the mouse. I also could not activate
the yellow lines with the right mouse button to allow snap tuning. However,
I could still tune with the mouse wheel. Also, none of the buttons worked,
including the STOP button. And, I could not exit the program with the X up
in the right corner of the screen. I was still receiving and could transmit
OK, except I was stuck on one frequency.

 

The only fix was to depress the START button on the computer until it shut
down. When I restarted, everything was normal for a few minutes, and then it
happened again. I shut the computer down again and restarted. Again,
everything was normal for a few minutes when the same thing happened. 

 

Since I had already worked two new countries today, I gave up.

 

I 'm running 1.16.2 and have been holding off going to 1.18.1, not wanting
to make any change during the Sporadic E season. 

 

Computer is Core 2dual from Dell - not a laptop.

 

Any ideas? The only thing I can think of is to load 18.1 and see if that
fixes the problem.

 

Otherwise happy with my Flex 5K which I've had for almost two years.

 

73,

 

Bill Tynan, W3XO/5  

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Re: [Flexradio] PSDR Locks Up

2009-06-22 Thread Jim Jerzycke
Was it the PC that locked up, or the program? An easy way to tell is to hit the 
Caps Lock key. If the Caps Lock light on the keyboard comes on,  you still have 
keyboard control, and the PC is running OK.
Did you try control-alt-delete to bring up the Task Manager so you could kill 
PSDR?
Jim  KQ6EA

--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Bill Tynan bty...@beecreek.net wrote:

From: Bill Tynan bty...@beecreek.net
Subject: [Flexradio] PSDR Locks Up
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 6:24 PM

It's never happened before this morning. I was working 6 meters (managed to
work an EA8 and a D44). All of a sudden, the cross changed to an arrow and I
could not change frequency by moving the mouse. I also could not activate
the yellow lines with the right mouse button to allow snap tuning. However,
I could still tune with the mouse wheel. Also, none of the buttons worked,
including the STOP button. And, I could not exit the program with the X up
in the right corner of the screen. I was still receiving and could transmit
OK, except I was stuck on one frequency.

 

The only fix was to depress the START button on the computer until it shut
down. When I restarted, everything was normal for a few minutes, and then it
happened again. I shut the computer down again and restarted. Again,
everything was normal for a few minutes when the same thing happened. 

 

Since I had already worked two new countries today, I gave up.

 

I 'm running 1.16.2 and have been holding off going to 1.18.1, not wanting
to make any change during the Sporadic E season. 

 

Computer is Core 2dual from Dell - not a laptop.

 

Any ideas? The only thing I can think of is to load 18.1 and see if that
fixes the problem.

 

Otherwise happy with my Flex 5K which I've had for almost two years.

 

73,

 

Bill Tynan, W3XO/5  

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Re: [Flexradio] RX2/VAC

2009-06-22 Thread Jerry Flanders

At 00:32 6/23/2009, you wrote:

Jerry,
   1. Are you plugged into the 5k's stereo Powered Speaker/Line Out jack?
   and


Yes - it has the RX1 audio on one side and RX2 on the other. I forget 
which is which.


   2. How do you get RX1's audio on one channel and RX2's audio on 
the other channel?


Use PowerSDR's audio pan controls - slide to opposite sides so you 
get no mixing of the audio.



Your method could make the 2 receivers so much more useful to me!


Yes - definitely useful. I currently do RTTY contesting mostly, and I 
can run the left audio to Writelog's sound card MMTTY RTTY decoder 
and the other to a second instance of MMTTY. I get diversity RTTY 
this way - if it fades on one antenna it probably doesn't on the 
second. I have several antennas here and can feed RX2 from a 
different one than I am transmitting on (which is also feeding RX1).


I bought a batch of these stereo cables 
http://www.mpja.com/prodinfo.asp?number=15666+CB for $1.09 each. They 
have some kind of filter on each end - probably ferrite.


BTW, you probably want to separate the audio channels in your 
headphones using those sliders on phone/cw also. Nice to be able to 
tell which radio has the better signal when it varies.



Thanks in advance.

(If you want you can post this to the group)


It could be useful to others, so I did.


Ted
NX6C




From: Jerry Flanders jefland...@comcast.net
To: Robert Bajuk rba...@gmail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:37:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] RX2/VAC

I am using a stereo cable from the back of the 5k to my computer
sound card and can process rx1 audio in the right channel and rx2
audio in the left.

Jerry W4UK

At 21:11 6/22/2009, Robert Bajuk wrote:
Agree fully ... It would be really nice to have RX2 to VAC option in an
official release

73 Robert

2009/6/22 mailto:k...@vhfdx.comk...@vhfdx.com

  Can't wait until this shows up in an official release!
 
 
  At 06:53 PM 6/22/2009 +0200, Robert Bajuk wrote:
 
  Hi Ed,
 
  What about your RX2 (output to VAC) branch?
 
  73 Robert
 
 
  73, Robert KR7O/YB2ARO, DM07ba/OI52ee  (ex.  N7STU)
  mailto:k...@vhfdx.comk...@vhfdx.com
 
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Re: [Flexradio] Fw: Re: PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes

2009-06-22 Thread Ahti Aintila
Hi!

Me too!
I like Janus/Ozy with SDR-1000. Should we just skip over versions
1.18.1 and upwards until version 1.20 release arrives?

Ahti OH2RZ


2009/6/22 keega...@juno.com keega...@juno.com:
 Hello,

 I also agree with Joe and Ronald.  I to use the Janus/Ozy sound card.   
 1.18.0 works fine but 1.18.1 give and error about no audio devise.  In the 
 set up there is a selection for the Janus/Ozy set up.

 Bob
 AC8O


 -- Forwarded Message --
 From: roland etienne roland.etie...@free.fr
 To: 'Joe - AB1DO' ab...@optonline.net, flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes
 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:34:58 +0200

 Hello,

 I think exactly the same as Joe, I use my SDR1000 with Ozy/Janus as sound
 card and control, and I am a bit frustrated as I cannot play with PowerSdr
 1.18.1!

 What can I do?

 73,
 Roland, f8chk.


 -Message d'origine-
 De : flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
 [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] De la part de Joe - AB1DO
 Envoyé : lundi 22 juin 2009 21:09
 À : flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Objet : Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes

 I noticed that in 1.18.1 support for HPSDR hardware has been removed in
 FlexRadio's official release. Although I certainly understand this from a
 commercial standpoint I would like to plead for one exception and that is
 the use of the Janus/Ozy sound card in combination with the SDR-1000. The
 reasons are the following:

 There are still SDR-1000 users out there and many have added the Janus/Ozy
 soundcard to add a superior ADC/DAC when compared to any audio device.

 Additionally, selecting Ozy as the control device enables the SDR-1000 user
 to replace all computer connections to the SDR-1000 with one single USB
 cable.

 Although HPSDR has gone on to develop several more cards, many SDR-1000
 users have only purchased the Janus/Ozy combo specifically for the purpose
 of enhancing their SDR-1000 experience. Especially when FlexRadio supported
 Janus/Ozy. Maintaining support for Janus/Ozy enables users to continue the
 enhanced experience of a FlexRadio device (SDR-1000), sustains FlexRadio's
 statement of supporting all legacy devices as PowerSDR develops and may even

 lead to future upgrades (FLEX 3000/FLEX-5000A). Although Janus/Ozy were not
 developed by FlexRadio, nor were any of the other sound cards and Janus/Ozy
 was (is?) a supported sound card if I'm not mistaken. At least, it is
 still in the list of sound cards to select in PowerSDR's start-up wizard
 (but selecting it seads to a PortAudio error).

 Cernatinly, an HPSDR version of PowerSDR is available elsewhere (where?),
 which is great for those interested in HPSDR. But SDR-1000 users are
 interested in FlexRadio - and why drive such users away from FlexRAdio
 towards HPSDR?

 73 de Joe - AB1DO

 - Original Message -
 From: Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 13:37
 Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.1 Release notes


 It is recommended that everyone should review the PowerSDR release notes
 before installing a release.  If there are dependencies or caveats, they
 are noted there.  For PowerSDR 1.18.1, the Release Notes are found here in

 the Knowledge Center.
 http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50419.aspx


 -Tim
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Re: [Flexradio] Splitting the reflector? I think it's a bad idea.

2009-06-22 Thread gelatin...@juno.com

After receiving several private emails please consider my comments withdrawn.  
I didn't realize this was such a strongly felt issue about splitting the 
reflector and certainly didn't mean any offense by my post. 

N7BUI



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