Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

2010-02-19 Thread Tim Ellison
How do you have CAT configured with FLDIGI?  RigCat?

-Tim


-Original Message-
From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:20 PM
To: Tim Ellison
Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB; 'Ray - K9DUR'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

Hi Tim,

CAT works fine, it's instant, tune the F3K and fldigi and BandMaster  
keep track of the frequency instantly, the delay seems to be
with the sound getting into fldigi, I've been giving away points in  
the ARRL International DX CW Contest and I am decoding the morse in
my head and replying to the stations and when I finish the QSO fldigi  
is still showing the QSO coming in, it's a long way behind me!
(I'm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle)

I'm using the VAC settings from the FlexRadio knowledge-base, are  
there any other tweaks I can make to improve the speed of
sound getting into fldigi?
If not, I will try hooking the F3K up to another PC's sound card  
running Ubuntu Linux and run fldigi on it as this is how I have been  
doing it with conventional
radios and the decoding is instant.

Maybe it is fldigi that runs slow under windows?
As I said, this is my first time back on windows for many years and  
so I am not used to how it performs, or doesn't as the case may be ;))

One thing I must add is that the filtering on the F3K is stunning,  
I'm working CW stations that are on top of each other without any  
problems at all,
the 50Hz filter is extremely useful in contest conditions and with  
some fine adjustment of the AGC/AF there is no ringing at all which  
makes it a lot
easier on the ears!

For a few of the stations I've actually narrowed down the filter even  
further from 50hz and I can still read the DX station without any  
problems at all!

For all the little "Foibles" I'm having here at the moment I must  
congratulate the FlexRadio team on producing such a fine piece of HAM  
kit, it's
certainly the best receiver I have ever played with!

Cheers!

Mike.
M0AWS / F5VKM
http://www.f5vkm.com


On 20 Feb 2010, at 01:36, Tim Ellison wrote:

> This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem.
>
>
> -Tim
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio- 
> boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM
> To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR'
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
>
> Mike
>
> I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the  
> latency.
>
> The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in  
> quick
> turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and  
> DM780  ..
> I'll check it out though.
>
> Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-)
>
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM
> To: Ray - K9DUR
> Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
>
> Hi Ray,
>
> I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it.
> The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is  
> not so
> great now, however it's still not instant?
>
> Is this normal?
> I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for  
> sound
> input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike.
>
> On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Alternatively, contact the author & see if he won't let you downgrade
>> to VAC 4.9, which works fine.
>>
>> 73, Ray, K9DUR
>> http://k9dur.info
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

2010-02-19 Thread Mike Tatum

Hi Tim,

CAT works fine, it's instant, tune the F3K and fldigi and BandMaster  
keep track of the frequency instantly, the delay seems to be
with the sound getting into fldigi, I've been giving away points in  
the ARRL International DX CW Contest and I am decoding the morse in
my head and replying to the stations and when I finish the QSO fldigi  
is still showing the QSO coming in, it's a long way behind me!

(I'm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle)

I'm using the VAC settings from the FlexRadio knowledge-base, are  
there any other tweaks I can make to improve the speed of

sound getting into fldigi?
If not, I will try hooking the F3K up to another PC's sound card  
running Ubuntu Linux and run fldigi on it as this is how I have been  
doing it with conventional

radios and the decoding is instant.

Maybe it is fldigi that runs slow under windows?
As I said, this is my first time back on windows for many years and  
so I am not used to how it performs, or doesn't as the case may be ;))


One thing I must add is that the filtering on the F3K is stunning,  
I'm working CW stations that are on top of each other without any  
problems at all,
the 50Hz filter is extremely useful in contest conditions and with  
some fine adjustment of the AGC/AF there is no ringing at all which  
makes it a lot

easier on the ears!

For a few of the stations I've actually narrowed down the filter even  
further from 50hz and I can still read the DX station without any  
problems at all!


For all the little "Foibles" I'm having here at the moment I must  
congratulate the FlexRadio team on producing such a fine piece of HAM  
kit, it's

certainly the best receiver I have ever played with!

Cheers!

Mike.
M0AWS / F5VKM
http://www.f5vkm.com


On 20 Feb 2010, at 01:36, Tim Ellison wrote:


This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem.


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio- 
boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB

Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM
To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR'
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

Mike

I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the  
latency.


The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in  
quick
turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and  
DM780  ..

I'll check it out though.

Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-)

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM
To: Ray - K9DUR
Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

Hi Ray,

I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it.
The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is  
not so

great now, however it's still not instant?

Is this normal?
I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for  
sound

input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison.

Thanks.

Mike.

On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote:


Mike,

Alternatively, contact the author & see if he won't let you downgrade
to VAC 4.9, which works fine.

73, Ray, K9DUR
http://k9dur.info








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Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

2010-02-19 Thread Mike Tatum

Hi Dave,

I've got the VAC buffers set to 512 which is the smallest available  
on the drop down list, is there something else I should be looking at?


Mike.

On 20 Feb 2010, at 00:32, Dave Beumer W0DHB wrote:


Mike

I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the  
latency.


The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in  
quick
turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and  
DM780  ..

I'll check it out though.

Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-)

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM
To: Ray - K9DUR
Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

Hi Ray,

I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it.
The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is  
not so

great now, however it's still not instant?

Is this normal?
I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for  
sound

input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison.

Thanks.

Mike.

On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote:


Mike,

Alternatively, contact the author & see if he won't let you downgrade
to VAC 4.9, which works fine.

73, Ray, K9DUR
http://k9dur.info











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Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

2010-02-19 Thread Tim Ellison
This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem.


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM
To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR'
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

Mike

I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency.

The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick
turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780  ..
I'll check it out though.

Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) 

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM
To: Ray - K9DUR
Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

Hi Ray,

I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it.
The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so
great now, however it's still not instant?

Is this normal?
I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound
input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison.

Thanks.

Mike.

On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Alternatively, contact the author & see if he won't let you downgrade 
> to VAC 4.9, which works fine.
>
> 73, Ray, K9DUR
> http://k9dur.info
>
>
>
>



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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

2010-02-19 Thread Neal Campbell
Does the radio appear to go into transmit mode? Could you have the Defeat
PTT checkbox clicked in the General tab of Setup?

Do you hear relays click, etc,? Does PTT jack on the back go to ground when
you click MOX?


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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Lee - AA5J  wrote:

>
> On 2/15/2010 10:28 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:
>
>> Lee,
>>
>> You need to give some details as to what you are running besides just a
>> Flex 5000.
>> OS?  SP?
>>
> MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME SP3
>
>  What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) Motherboard or brand
>>
> DELL DUAL CORE 2.8GHZ (SEE BELARC AND SIW REPORTS, IN SEPARATE EMAIL)
>
>> PowerSDR version
>>
> 1.18.3
>
>> Firmware version
>>
> 3.4.2.6300
>
>> FireWire version
>>
> DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE THAT
>
>  AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp?
>>
> NO AMP.  USB LSB DIGI CW CWL
>
>> Any other details that you would like to share.
>> I USED ENDITALL TO SHUT DOWN DAMN NEAR EVERYTHING. ONLY THING OTHER THAN
>> SYSTEM RUNNING WAS POWERSDR.  USED SIW AND BELARC ONE AT A TIME TO PRINT
>> SYSTEM INFORMATION REPORTS.  SIMPLY TRIED TUNING.  MOST OF THE TIME, NO RF
>> OUT.  CPU% WITHOUT POWERSDR RUNNING ~1.6%, WITH POWERSDR RUNNING 15-17%.
>>  STILL NO RF OUT A LOT OF THE TIME.  RADIO IS UNUSABLE AS A TRANSCEIVER,
>>  WORKS GREAT AS A RECEIVER.
>>
>
> 73, LEE AA5J
>
>  73,
>> Dudley
>>
>> WA5QPZ
>>
>>
>>
>> Lee - AA5J wrote:
>>
>>> I did that.  I still have intermittant power out, two-three, sometimes
>>> more after keying out before any power shows up on the output.  Same problem
>>> I sent it back to Flex because of.  It worked for 3-4 weeks after I got it
>>> back "could not duplicate" and then started the same thing again.  I jumped
>>> at the chance to load 1.18.5, but it did not solve the problem.  I notice
>>> that several others have the same problem as I do.  I ran for several days
>>> not using the ATU, but problem persisted.  Tried moving the Drive slider,
>>> but problem persisted.  deleted nearly all running apps, but problem
>>> persisted.  Defragged hard drive, but problem persisted.  I don't get it.
>>>  It is very frustrating and it needs to be either explained or fixed.  I am
>>> having to use this FT-857D and wish I could use my new shiny Flex-5000A, cuz
>>> it ain;t big enough or heavy enough to serve as a boat-anchor.  I don't need
>>> just a receiver. I need the transmitter to work also.  Maybe I need Neal to
>>> build me a brand new computer.  Who knows.???
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Lee, AA5J
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/12/2010 10:38 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:
>>>
 You should install 1.18.5


 -Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:
 flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell
 Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:36 PM
 To: Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
 Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

 Uninstall 1.8.3, reboot, reinstall 1.8.3 and then kick it up. I think
 that
 will fix it.
 73

 Neal Campbell
 Abroham Neal Software
 www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
 (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

 Amateur Radio: K3NC
 Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
 DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com
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 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
 wrote:

   Database reset had no effect.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

2010-02-19 Thread Lee - AA5J


On 2/15/2010 10:28 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:

Lee,

You need to give some details as to what you are running besides just 
a Flex 5000.

OS?  SP?

MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME SP3

What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) Motherboard or brand

DELL DUAL CORE 2.8GHZ (SEE BELARC AND SIW REPORTS, IN SEPARATE EMAIL)

PowerSDR version

1.18.3

Firmware version

3.4.2.6300

FireWire version

DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE THAT

AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp?

NO AMP.  USB LSB DIGI CW CWL

Any other details that you would like to share.
I USED ENDITALL TO SHUT DOWN DAMN NEAR EVERYTHING. ONLY THING OTHER 
THAN SYSTEM RUNNING WAS POWERSDR.  USED SIW AND BELARC ONE AT A TIME 
TO PRINT SYSTEM INFORMATION REPORTS.  SIMPLY TRIED TUNING.  MOST OF 
THE TIME, NO RF OUT.  CPU% WITHOUT POWERSDR RUNNING ~1.6%, WITH 
POWERSDR RUNNING 15-17%.  STILL NO RF OUT A LOT OF THE TIME.  RADIO IS 
UNUSABLE AS A TRANSCEIVER,  WORKS GREAT AS A RECEIVER.


73, LEE AA5J

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Lee - AA5J wrote:
I did that.  I still have intermittant power out, two-three, 
sometimes more after keying out before any power shows up on the 
output.  Same problem I sent it back to Flex because of.  It worked 
for 3-4 weeks after I got it back "could not duplicate" and then 
started the same thing again.  I jumped at the chance to load 1.18.5, 
but it did not solve the problem.  I notice that several others have 
the same problem as I do.  I ran for several days not using the ATU, 
but problem persisted.  Tried moving the Drive slider, but problem 
persisted.  deleted nearly all running apps, but problem persisted.  
Defragged hard drive, but problem persisted.  I don't get it.  It is 
very frustrating and it needs to be either explained or fixed.  I am 
having to use this FT-857D and wish I could use my new shiny 
Flex-5000A, cuz it ain;t big enough or heavy enough to serve as a 
boat-anchor.  I don't need just a receiver. I need the transmitter to 
work also.  Maybe I need Neal to build me a brand new computer.  Who 
knows.???


73,
Lee, AA5J


On 2/12/2010 10:38 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:

You should install 1.18.5


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell

Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:36 PM
To: Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

Uninstall 1.8.3, reboot, reinstall 1.8.3 and then kick it up. I 
think that

will fix it.
73

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

Amateur Radio: K3NC
Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
wrote:


  Database reset had no effect.





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WD4ELG

Greensboro, NC - FM06be

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Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Beumer W0DHB
Mike

I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency.

The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick
turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780  ..
I'll check it out though.

Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) 

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM
To: Ray - K9DUR
Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

Hi Ray,

I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it.
The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so
great now, however it's still not instant?

Is this normal?
I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound
input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison.

Thanks.

Mike.

On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Alternatively, contact the author & see if he won't let you downgrade 
> to VAC 4.9, which works fine.
>
> 73, Ray, K9DUR
> http://k9dur.info
>
>
>
>



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Re: [Flexradio] why worry about dpc's?

2010-02-19 Thread Brett Gazdzinski

My dpc's are very low, they run around 20 with spikes up to maybe 50.
But when I run normal mode, very low buffers, 190 KHz bandwidth, psdr fails 
if I try to record something and play it back.  That must be to much to ask 
of little buffers.
Safe mode 1 has no issues ever, normal mode with moderate buffer sizes seems 
fine.
If you want to monitor your signal, or do fast break in I suppose, small 
buffers equals low delay.


The old laptop I used to use with the flex 5000 had higher dpc readings, 
2000 I think and would only run in safe mode 1, and the delay was VERY bad. 
Besides the delay, no problems at all, no glitches even with many other 
programs open, in safe mode 1 with bigger buffers.


I think if you do voice and dont monitor yourself, that is fine, if you do 
CW but dont do break in, I would guess its fine.

I suspect the 3000 is not as critical

Brett







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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 58, Issue 19

2010-02-19 Thread Tim Ellison
I'd send him an e-mail and ask for v4.09.  Tell him v4.10 is worthless and 4.09 
works just fine.  Then when it gets fixed (an assumption on my part), you 
should be able to upgrade.


-Tim


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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Tatum
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:56 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 58, Issue 19

Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info.

I have just purchased VAC and have version 4.10.0.2537 and have been  
disappointed with it, I thought
it was the settings that I was using, I got them from the Flex  
Knowledge Centre.

I've found there are huge delays getting the sound to fldigi for CW  
and PSK31 decoding, seems extremely slow?
I'm running it on a 3.4Ghz Quad Core AMD 965 system which is showing  
total CPU load at <5% for 99% of the time so I know
it's not the system under load causing the problem :)

On SSB there is a lot of popping and audio drops outs making it  
almost unusable, I was about to contact the author and ask
for a refund but I'll hold fire until you get a result from them and  
hopefully a patch fix!

Please keep us informed of progress.

Thanks.

Mike.
M0AWS / F5VKM
http://www.f5vkm.com

On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:

>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:20:56 -0500
> From: "Tim (W4TME)" 
> To: Flexradio 
> Subject: [Flexradio] Caution: New VAC version,4.10 does not work well
>   with PowerSDR
> Message-ID: <4b7dcb58.8010...@flex-radio.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> To all Flexers,
>
> There is a new version of VAC, v4.10 that has been released in the  
> past
> few days.  Initial testing has indicated that it is *not* a "drop in"
> replacement for VAC v4.09.
>
> I have been experiencing significant audio drop outs on receive and
> (worse) on transmit.  Changing sample rates and buffers sizes does not
> seem to make any improvement in the audio quality.
>
> I would strongly recommend that Flexers who utilize VAC *NOT* install
> VAC 4.10 until some of these issues can be rectified.  If you do  
> plan to
> test VAC 4.10, please do so with a dummy load until you are certain of
> the quality of signal you are transmitting.
>
> I have started a correspondence with the VAC developers to help  
> identify
> and rectify the significant deficiencies and defects in VAC 4.10 as  
> they
> pertain to its use with PowerSDR.
>
> One other note to all users.  Please do not post on the reflectors the
> URL for VAC upgrades.  This is private information and is shared with
> only registered users of VAC and not the thousands of users on the
> reflectors.  The distributors of VAC don't appreciate it and obviously
> get a little upset if it is done since it allows their software to be
> easily pirated.  If you are a registered user of VAC and you do not  
> know
> how to get updates, you must contact the entity you purchased VAC from
> to get that information.
>
> -Tim
> -- 
> W4TME
> FlexRadio Systems - Info Management Admin.
> "Tune in Excitement"


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Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

2010-02-19 Thread Ray - K9DUR
Mike,

Alternatively, contact the author & see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC
4.9, which works fine.

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Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10

2010-02-19 Thread Mike Tatum

Hi Dave,

I'm using Windows XP on a Quad Core AMD Phenom II x4 965 AM3 Black  
Edition CPU running at 3.4Ghz with 4GB RAM.
The system load is never above 5% with everything running, PSDR, VAC,  
DDUtil, Fldigi, VOAcap and Band Master.


The audio from VAC is quite poor to say the least, I have been quite  
disappointed with my purchase which I made only 2 days ago :(


I'm hoping for a patch fix ASAP otherwise will be looking for a  
refund ;)


Cheers!

Mike.
M0AWS / F5VKM
http://www.f5vkm.com

On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:10, Dave Beumer W0DHB wrote:


Tim/Mike

What OS are you running with VAC 4.10 and how many CPU's ?
One of the "improvements" in 4.10 was to spread the VAC  
computations over

multi-cores .

I've downloaded my upgrade, but holding off awaiting word from Tim .

Dave W0DHB

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Tatum
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:56 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 58, Issue 19

Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info.

I have just purchased VAC and have version 4.10.0.2537 and have been
disappointed with it, I thought it was the settings that I was  
using, I got

them from the Flex Knowledge Centre.

I've found there are huge delays getting the sound to fldigi for CW  
and

PSK31 decoding, seems extremely slow?
I'm running it on a 3.4Ghz Quad Core AMD 965 system which is  
showing total
CPU load at <5% for 99% of the time so I know it's not the system  
under load

causing the problem :)

On SSB there is a lot of popping and audio drops outs making it almost
unusable, I was about to contact the author and ask for a refund  
but I'll

hold fire until you get a result from them and hopefully a patch fix!

Please keep us informed of progress.

Thanks.

Mike.
M0AWS / F5VKM
http://www.f5vkm.com

On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:



Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:20:56 -0500
From: "Tim (W4TME)" 
To: Flexradio 
Subject: [Flexradio] Caution: New VAC version,  4.10 does not work

well

with PowerSDR
Message-ID: <4b7dcb58.8010...@flex-radio.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

To all Flexers,

There is a new version of VAC, v4.10 that has been released in the
past few days.  Initial testing has indicated that it is *not* a  
"drop

in"
replacement for VAC v4.09.

I have been experiencing significant audio drop outs on receive and
(worse) on transmit.  Changing sample rates and buffers sizes does  
not

seem to make any improvement in the audio quality.

I would strongly recommend that Flexers who utilize VAC *NOT* install
VAC 4.10 until some of these issues can be rectified.  If you do plan
to test VAC 4.10, please do so with a dummy load until you are  
certain

of the quality of signal you are transmitting.

I have started a correspondence with the VAC developers to help
identify and rectify the significant deficiencies and defects in VAC
4.10 as they pertain to its use with PowerSDR.

One other note to all users.  Please do not post on the reflectors  
the

URL for VAC upgrades.  This is private information and is shared with
only registered users of VAC and not the thousands of users on the
reflectors.  The distributors of VAC don't appreciate it and  
obviously

get a little upset if it is done since it allows their software to be
easily pirated.  If you are a registered user of VAC and you do not
know how to get updates, you must contact the entity you purchased  
VAC

from to get that information.

-Tim
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[Flexradio] VAC 4.10

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Beumer W0DHB
Tim/Mike

What OS are you running with VAC 4.10 and how many CPU's ?
One of the "improvements" in 4.10 was to spread the VAC computations over
multi-cores .

I've downloaded my upgrade, but holding off awaiting word from Tim .

Dave W0DHB 

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Tatum
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:56 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 58, Issue 19

Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info.

I have just purchased VAC and have version 4.10.0.2537 and have been
disappointed with it, I thought it was the settings that I was using, I got
them from the Flex Knowledge Centre.

I've found there are huge delays getting the sound to fldigi for CW and
PSK31 decoding, seems extremely slow?
I'm running it on a 3.4Ghz Quad Core AMD 965 system which is showing total
CPU load at <5% for 99% of the time so I know it's not the system under load
causing the problem :)

On SSB there is a lot of popping and audio drops outs making it almost
unusable, I was about to contact the author and ask for a refund but I'll
hold fire until you get a result from them and hopefully a patch fix!

Please keep us informed of progress.

Thanks.

Mike.
M0AWS / F5VKM
http://www.f5vkm.com

On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:

>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:20:56 -0500
> From: "Tim (W4TME)" 
> To: Flexradio 
> Subject: [Flexradio] Caution: New VAC version,4.10 does not work
well
>   with PowerSDR
> Message-ID: <4b7dcb58.8010...@flex-radio.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> To all Flexers,
>
> There is a new version of VAC, v4.10 that has been released in the 
> past few days.  Initial testing has indicated that it is *not* a "drop 
> in"
> replacement for VAC v4.09.
>
> I have been experiencing significant audio drop outs on receive and
> (worse) on transmit.  Changing sample rates and buffers sizes does not 
> seem to make any improvement in the audio quality.
>
> I would strongly recommend that Flexers who utilize VAC *NOT* install 
> VAC 4.10 until some of these issues can be rectified.  If you do plan 
> to test VAC 4.10, please do so with a dummy load until you are certain 
> of the quality of signal you are transmitting.
>
> I have started a correspondence with the VAC developers to help 
> identify and rectify the significant deficiencies and defects in VAC 
> 4.10 as they pertain to its use with PowerSDR.
>
> One other note to all users.  Please do not post on the reflectors the 
> URL for VAC upgrades.  This is private information and is shared with 
> only registered users of VAC and not the thousands of users on the 
> reflectors.  The distributors of VAC don't appreciate it and obviously 
> get a little upset if it is done since it allows their software to be 
> easily pirated.  If you are a registered user of VAC and you do not 
> know how to get updates, you must contact the entity you purchased VAC 
> from to get that information.
>
> -Tim
> --
> W4TME
> FlexRadio Systems - Info Management Admin.
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Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 58, Issue 19

2010-02-19 Thread Mike Tatum

Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info.

I have just purchased VAC and have version 4.10.0.2537 and have been  
disappointed with it, I thought
it was the settings that I was using, I got them from the Flex  
Knowledge Centre.


I've found there are huge delays getting the sound to fldigi for CW  
and PSK31 decoding, seems extremely slow?
I'm running it on a 3.4Ghz Quad Core AMD 965 system which is showing  
total CPU load at <5% for 99% of the time so I know

it's not the system under load causing the problem :)

On SSB there is a lot of popping and audio drops outs making it  
almost unusable, I was about to contact the author and ask
for a refund but I'll hold fire until you get a result from them and  
hopefully a patch fix!


Please keep us informed of progress.

Thanks.

Mike.
M0AWS / F5VKM
http://www.f5vkm.com

On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:



Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:20:56 -0500
From: "Tim (W4TME)" 
To: Flexradio 
Subject: [Flexradio] Caution: New VAC version,  4.10 does not work well
with PowerSDR
Message-ID: <4b7dcb58.8010...@flex-radio.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

To all Flexers,

There is a new version of VAC, v4.10 that has been released in the  
past

few days.  Initial testing has indicated that it is *not* a "drop in"
replacement for VAC v4.09.

I have been experiencing significant audio drop outs on receive and
(worse) on transmit.  Changing sample rates and buffers sizes does not
seem to make any improvement in the audio quality.

I would strongly recommend that Flexers who utilize VAC *NOT* install
VAC 4.10 until some of these issues can be rectified.  If you do  
plan to

test VAC 4.10, please do so with a dummy load until you are certain of
the quality of signal you are transmitting.

I have started a correspondence with the VAC developers to help  
identify
and rectify the significant deficiencies and defects in VAC 4.10 as  
they

pertain to its use with PowerSDR.

One other note to all users.  Please do not post on the reflectors the
URL for VAC upgrades.  This is private information and is shared with
only registered users of VAC and not the thousands of users on the
reflectors.  The distributors of VAC don't appreciate it and obviously
get a little upset if it is done since it allows their software to be
easily pirated.  If you are a registered user of VAC and you do not  
know

how to get updates, you must contact the entity you purchased VAC from
to get that information.

-Tim
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Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

2010-02-19 Thread Tim Ellison
Yes, that is exactly the approach I would take.


-Tim

From: Spencer Borden [mailto:borden_spen...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:02 PM
To: Tim Ellison
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

This brings up a question.  After a system is up and running in Safe Mode 1, 
Sample rate 96kHz and buffer size 1024, what would be the course in incremental 
changes to reduce latency?

Would it be to increase sample rate / decrease buffer size , in Safe Mode 1.  
Then try Normal mode, starting with the larger buffer sizes and slower sample 
rates?

Spence
AB1HO


From: Tim Ellison 
To: Lazy Senior ; "flexRadio@flex-radio.biz" 

Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 3:34:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

See my comments below


-Tim


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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz]
 On Behalf Of Lazy Senior
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:49 PM
To: flexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

Perhaps you could define long duration. At what DPC duration does the
DPC level start to affect PSDR performance?

[Tim] Somewhere around 1500 us.  Definitely in excess of 2000 us

There really is a lot of misconception about this subject. I actually
had a ham tell me a few days (on the air) that he would never buy a Flex
because he had heard you had to have a new super fast computer with no
latencys. His exact words.

[Tim] This is the misinformation FlexRadio's competitors are spreading in an 
attempt to discredit them, because it is the only thing they can think of to 
attack.  The software model of ever more improvements is a killer.  They busted 
the artificial barrier to price vs. Performance with the FLEX-3000.  Desperate 
people say desperate things.

First time I ever heard that one. When I told him I was running an old
4yr old computer running Vista, I do not think he believed me.

Since the Flex Driver with the DPC checker will tell you to run the
normal mode with anything under 1000us, can I assume that 1000us is just
fine and not considered long duration?

[Tim] In 99% of the cases I have dealt with, anything under 1000 us is OK.  The 
lower the number, the less latency you will hear in the MON when monitoring 
your transmissions.  Also the lower the number the more "headroom" you have to 
absorb a spike if something is compounding the problem.

I also am assuming that the different Safe 1,2,3 modes are for
compensating for DPC  latencys higher than 1000us?

[Tim] Exactly.  The modes "enforce" larger hardware buffers to hold the 
incoming or outgoing samples while the PC is taking a siesta waiting for some 
hardware component to relinquish control of the PC back to the operating system 
(the cause of DPCs).

As long as we are on the Subject, why does the Flex Manual recommend
Safe Mode 1 over normal mode?

[Tim] Because it recommends using initial setting that are conservative to 
ensure that the radio will work without freezing for the lowest common 
denominator of PC configurations.  You start out with conservative settings and 
get more aggressive once you understand the limits of your system and how to 
adjust them for lower internal latency (the listening in the MON or operating 
fast CW, both of which require low internal latency in PowerSDR).

Stan K9IUQ


Tim Ellison wrote:
> If you have long duration DPCs it will do the following in order of severity
>
> 1.) Increase internal latency.  Most likely heard in the monitor
> 2.) Causes audio drop outs or "stuttering".  Also described as a "motor 
> boating" sound.
> 3.) Freeze the operation of PowerSDR
>
>
> -Tim
>
>
>


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Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

2010-02-19 Thread Tim Ellison
See my comments below


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Lazy Senior
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:49 PM
To: flexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

Perhaps you could define long duration. At what DPC duration does the 
DPC level start to affect PSDR performance?
 
[Tim] Somewhere around 1500 us.  Definitely in excess of 2000 us

There really is a lot of misconception about this subject. I actually 
had a ham tell me a few days (on the air) that he would never buy a Flex 
because he had heard you had to have a new super fast computer with no 
latencys. His exact words.

[Tim] This is the misinformation FlexRadio's competitors are spreading in an 
attempt to discredit them, because it is the only thing they can think of to 
attack.  The software model of ever more improvements is a killer.  They busted 
the artificial barrier to price vs. Performance with the FLEX-3000.  Desperate 
people say desperate things.

First time I ever heard that one. When I told him I was running an old 
4yr old computer running Vista, I do not think he believed me.

Since the Flex Driver with the DPC checker will tell you to run the 
normal mode with anything under 1000us, can I assume that 1000us is just 
fine and not considered long duration?

[Tim] In 99% of the cases I have dealt with, anything under 1000 us is OK.  The 
lower the number, the less latency you will hear in the MON when monitoring 
your transmissions.  Also the lower the number the more "headroom" you have to 
absorb a spike if something is compounding the problem.

I also am assuming that the different Safe 1,2,3 modes are for 
compensating for DPC  latencys higher than 1000us?

[Tim] Exactly.  The modes "enforce" larger hardware buffers to hold the 
incoming or outgoing samples while the PC is taking a siesta waiting for some 
hardware component to relinquish control of the PC back to the operating system 
(the cause of DPCs).

As long as we are on the Subject, why does the Flex Manual recommend 
Safe Mode 1 over normal mode?

[Tim] Because it recommends using initial setting that are conservative to 
ensure that the radio will work without freezing for the lowest common 
denominator of PC configurations.  You start out with conservative settings and 
get more aggressive once you understand the limits of your system and how to 
adjust them for lower internal latency (the listening in the MON or operating 
fast CW, both of which require low internal latency in PowerSDR).

Stan K9IUQ


Tim Ellison wrote:
> If you have long duration DPCs it will do the following in order of severity
>
> 1.) Increase internal latency.  Most likely heard in the monitor
> 2.) Causes audio drop outs or "stuttering".  Also described as a "motor 
> boating" sound.
> 3.) Freeze the operation of PowerSDR
>
>
> -Tim
>
>
>   


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Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

2010-02-19 Thread Ray - K9DUR
Stan,

I do not believe that you can put a hard, fast number on the threshold where
DPC's will cause problems or not.  Especially since other factors, such as
RFI, enter into the equation as well.   All that can really be done is
define a vague range where below that range is almost undoubtedly safe,
above that range is almost certainly a problem, & within that range is a
crap shoot.  Ask Tim or Neal for approximate numbers defining the range.

Changes & improvements to the software & the firmware come so rapidly that
it is impossible for the documentation to keep up with current practice.
Not to mention improvements in the FireWire driver.

As for setting the driver to Normal vs. Safe Mode 1 -- the FLEX-5000 manual
was written at the time of the release of PowerSDR v1.14.0 & the FLEX-3000
manual with the release of v1.18.0.  There have been many improvements since
v1.18.0 that now allow running the FireWire driver in Normal mode.  The
documentation simply has not caught up with reality yet.  Furthermore, it
never will due to the rapid release of improvements in the software.  When
the documentation is next updated, it will only be in sync with the software
for at most a day or two.  The manual is best used as a reference for normal
day-to-day operation of the radio type functions (changing frequency, using
filters, etc.).  Optimum setup values vary with each revision to the code
andare discussed on the FlexEdge reflector.

73, Ray, K9DUR
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Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

2010-02-19 Thread Lazy Senior
Perhaps you could define long duration. At what DPC duration does the 
DPC level start to affect PSDR performance?


There really is a lot of misconception about this subject. I actually 
had a ham tell me a few days (on the air) that he would never buy a Flex 
because he had heard you had to have a new super fast computer with no 
latencys. His exact words.


First time I ever heard that one. When I told him I was running an old 
4yr old computer running Vista, I do not think he believed me.


Since the Flex Driver with the DPC checker will tell you to run the 
normal mode with anything under 1000us, can I assume that 1000us is just 
fine and not considered long duration?


I also am assuming that the different Safe 1,2,3 modes are for 
compensating for DPC  latencys higher than 1000us?
As long as we are on the Subject, why does the Flex Manual recommend 
Safe Mode 1 over normal mode?


Stan K9IUQ


Tim Ellison wrote:

If you have long duration DPCs it will do the following in order of severity

1.) Increase internal latency.  Most likely heard in the monitor
2.) Causes audio drop outs or "stuttering".  Also described as a "motor 
boating" sound.
3.) Freeze the operation of PowerSDR


-Tim


  



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Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

2010-02-19 Thread Tim Ellison

If you have long duration DPCs it will do the following in order of severity

1.) Increase internal latency.  Most likely heard in the monitor
2.) Causes audio drop outs or "stuttering".  Also described as a "motor 
boating" sound.
3.) Freeze the operation of PowerSDR


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Lazy Senior
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:55 PM
To: flexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

No, not a lot. It could go to 1000us and neither the Flexradio or you 
would notice any difference in PSDR performance. PSDR seems very 
tolerant of DPC levels up to 1000us or so.  In fact the Flex driver 
suggests Normal mode for DPC levels at 1000us.

I can not tell the difference between 50us or 1000us in real world PSDR use.

Before I tweaked my computer I was getting 1000us. PSDR ran just fine at 
Safe level 1. Flex Driver said I could run at Normal mode.

After much tweaking, I got the DPC level to 50us. BUT it made absolutely 
NO difference in PSDR operation. At least none that I can tell.

I believe that obsessing over DPC's  drives prospective Flex customers 
away because most Hams do not want to buy a new PC in addition to a radio.

On another subject I just got my 5 yr old Laptop running PSDR. Using the 
internal Firewire port and running Win XP. DPC levels at 25us after I 
disabled Microsoft ACPI compliant Control Method Battery driver which 
was causing DPC levels of 4000us every 5 seconds.

With Win XP and DPC levels of 25us or less, am I blown away by the 
*superior* performance of PSDR.

Of course not. In a blind test I would not be able to tell what is 
running the radio..


Since you bring up the subject of low DPC levels frequently, have you 
ever tested PSDR performance at different DPC levels? Should be easy to 
do..
I would be interested in your results, especially if they are different 
than mine.

Stan K9IUQ





Neal Campbell wrote:
>  I have
> found with C-state enabled, it can make your DPCs jump 50+ us. No, not a lot
> but its a huge percentage when you get 0-15 under XP! Disable it also.
>
>
> 73
>
>
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal Software
> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>
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Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

2010-02-19 Thread Neal Campbell
Hi Stan

I hear from customers who say that the ssb monitor is "real time" when the
DPCs are in my range while it gets a bit delayed or garbled when they have
high DPCs. I have one customer who got a system and decided to load it as
much as he could with his 3000 (96KHz, 256 buffer, a lot of other programs
going on, streaming video, etc) and while the DPCs shot up the only artifact
he saw was a delay in the ssb monitor (I hope I am reporting this correctly)

Again, if your system is marginal (you are getting gaps or PSDR is turning
itself off) these tweaks could very well move the performance level down to
a point where you are happy with the system. If you area already happy with
the system, the tweaks do not hurt but they may not help.

This is not a DPC "arms race", its is meant to help people stay with their
computer if they are not getting the performance they expected from their
computer.

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Lazy Senior wrote:

> No, not a lot. It could go to 1000us and neither the Flexradio or you would
> notice any difference in PSDR performance. PSDR seems very tolerant of DPC
> levels up to 1000us or so.  In fact the Flex driver suggests Normal mode for
> DPC levels at 1000us.
>
> I can not tell the difference between 50us or 1000us in real world PSDR
> use.
>
> Before I tweaked my computer I was getting 1000us. PSDR ran just fine at
> Safe level 1. Flex Driver said I could run at Normal mode.
>
> After much tweaking, I got the DPC level to 50us. BUT it made absolutely NO
> difference in PSDR operation. At least none that I can tell.
>
> I believe that obsessing over DPC's  drives prospective Flex customers away
> because most Hams do not want to buy a new PC in addition to a radio.
>
> On another subject I just got my 5 yr old Laptop running PSDR. Using the
> internal Firewire port and running Win XP. DPC levels at 25us after I
> disabled Microsoft ACPI compliant Control Method Battery driver which was
> causing DPC levels of 4000us every 5 seconds.
>
> With Win XP and DPC levels of 25us or less, am I blown away by the
> *superior* performance of PSDR.
>
> Of course not. In a blind test I would not be able to tell what is running
> the radio..
>
>
> Since you bring up the subject of low DPC levels frequently, have you ever
> tested PSDR performance at different DPC levels? Should be easy to do..
> I would be interested in your results, especially if they are different
> than mine.
>
> Stan K9IUQ
>
>
>
>
>
> Neal Campbell wrote:
>
>>  I have
>> found with C-state enabled, it can make your DPCs jump 50+ us. No, not a
>> lot
>> but its a huge percentage when you get 0-15 under XP! Disable it also.
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>> Neal Campbell
>> Abroham Neal Software
>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
>> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

2010-02-19 Thread Lazy Senior
No, not a lot. It could go to 1000us and neither the Flexradio or you 
would notice any difference in PSDR performance. PSDR seems very 
tolerant of DPC levels up to 1000us or so.  In fact the Flex driver 
suggests Normal mode for DPC levels at 1000us.


I can not tell the difference between 50us or 1000us in real world PSDR use.

Before I tweaked my computer I was getting 1000us. PSDR ran just fine at 
Safe level 1. Flex Driver said I could run at Normal mode.


After much tweaking, I got the DPC level to 50us. BUT it made absolutely 
NO difference in PSDR operation. At least none that I can tell.


I believe that obsessing over DPC's  drives prospective Flex customers 
away because most Hams do not want to buy a new PC in addition to a radio.


On another subject I just got my 5 yr old Laptop running PSDR. Using the 
internal Firewire port and running Win XP. DPC levels at 25us after I 
disabled Microsoft ACPI compliant Control Method Battery driver which 
was causing DPC levels of 4000us every 5 seconds.


With Win XP and DPC levels of 25us or less, am I blown away by the 
*superior* performance of PSDR.


Of course not. In a blind test I would not be able to tell what is 
running the radio..



Since you bring up the subject of low DPC levels frequently, have you 
ever tested PSDR performance at different DPC levels? Should be easy to 
do..
I would be interested in your results, especially if they are different 
than mine.


Stan K9IUQ





Neal Campbell wrote:

 I have
found with C-state enabled, it can make your DPCs jump 50+ us. No, not a lot
but its a huge percentage when you get 0-15 under XP! Disable it also.


73


Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

  



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Re: [Flexradio] CW using DM780

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Beumer W0DHB
Paul

I did verify using the PowerSDR CAT command test feature that KS/KY do work
as advertised so it must be something amiss in DM780.

Probably cockpit error .

Dave

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From: Dave Beumer W0DHB [mailto:d...@w0dhb.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:47 AM
To: 'Paul Mullins'
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] CW using DM780

Hi Paul

I thought I had read somewhere that MCW was not allowed (at least in the
US).

According to the DM780 documentation you should be able to send KS/KY CAT
commands to PowerSDR to generate CW.
KS sets the speed and KY sends an ascii  string to be sent via CWX.

DM780 CW setup is somewhat vague about how to set up to send KS/KY .
I'm not sure if DM780 is sending the commands or if PowerSDR is ignoring
them.

I've seen a few write-ups about PowerSDR and N1MM communicating CW this way.

Another thing that would be nice is if PowerSDR had a Comm port definition
for CW keying like it does for PTT . This would eliminate the need for a
physical cable.

I push on...

Dave 

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From: Paul Mullins [mailto:pmull...@adam.com.au] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 6:18 AM
To: Dave Beumer W0DHB; flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] CW using DM780

Hi there Dave
  in DM78o you should be able to use MCW stands for modulated CW ie the
software (DM780) makes the cw tones.

I will have a look and see if you can use the CW generator in the flex.

Cheers
Paul


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[Flexradio] P55-based motherboard users out there

2010-02-19 Thread Neal Campbell
This might apply to other than Intel Processor motherboards that use the P55
chipset but this one thing I know:

You remember that when you get your computer for your flex radio you should
hit the Del key (or F1 in some cases) to get into your computer's BIOS
settings and disable Speedstep (which is reversely named since it decides to
slow down your processor when it thinks you are not using it very much, so
it should be called Slowstep), This is a power-saving technology and you
cannot blame people for wanting it but for Flex Radios I am afraid it can
cause unpredictable behavior.

There is a new setting that also has a dramatic effect on your DPC levels in
the latest P7P55D motherboard I use, called C-state. Both Speedstep and
C-state are under the CPU settings category. C-states are used to detect
when to go to sleep and when to wake up (your computer, not you!). I have
found with C-state enabled, it can make your DPCs jump 50+ us. No, not a lot
but its a huge percentage when you get 0-15 under XP! Disable it also.

In a similar vein (and something that desktop users wouldn't normally think
to do), look at the Power control item in your control panel. If there is a
power scheme for Performance, select it. If you do not, just make sure that
the timer for allowing your disks to power down is set to 0 (or something
large like 4 hours).

73


Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex-5000A

2010-02-19 Thread Bob McGwier
There is one serious stand out that fits your needs.  DXLabs is written by one 
of the finest programmers around.

Dave has taken this task of providing quality software in for years.  He 
natively supports flex radio cat.  I have used no other for a decade at home.

it is a huge suite, doing much more than logging.  I use SpotCollector, 
pathview, integrated with dxatlas cwskimmer and in and on.

Best yet?  He does it as a service to ham radio.  Try it first.

Bob
N4HY

--Original Message--
From: Gwyn Williams
Sender: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
To: flexradio Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] Flex-5000A
Sent: Feb 19, 2010 4:12 AM

Hi Everyone,

I am considering using a logging program on the same Vista machine as I 
run my Flex. Does anyone use a general logging program in this way? I've 
seen some entries concerning the N1MM software but I am not that 
interested in contest logging at the moment!

Have a good day and good DXing
73's,
Gwyn - G4FKH

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Re: [Flexradio] Flex-5000A

2010-02-19 Thread Ray - K9DUR
Gwyn,

Asking which logging program you like is the same as asking what make of
automobile is best.  Everyone will give you a different answer.

All of the logging programs have their strengths as well as their
weaknesses.

That being said, here is my 2 pence worth.

I use 2 different logging programs.  While operating, I use N1MM Logger.
Yes, it is a contesting program, but the same features that make it the best
contest logging software also make general operating with PowerSDR a dream.
N1MM does not have any award tracking, QSL, tracking, etc. features.  So, I
use VQLog by EA6VQ, for my general logging requirements.  After an operating
session, I simply export an ADIF file from N1MM which I then import into
VQLog.

N1MM also works directly with MMTTY & FLDIGI for seamlessly integrated RTTY
and digital modes operation.

N1mm Logger -- http://www.n1mm.com -- Free with monthly (or more) updates
available.
VQLog -- http://www.vqlog.com -- 20 Euros ($30 US) for 2-yr upgrade/support
license

73, Ray, K9DUR
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Re: [Flexradio] Flex-5000A

2010-02-19 Thread Jim
I use DXBase 2007. I have been a DXBase user since 2000. Like it very well.
Version 2010 due out anytime.

73 de KE4WY Jim

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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bill Jourdain
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:18 AM
To: 'Gwyn Williams'; 'Flex Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex-5000A

I use ACLog by N3FJP on the same machine as PSDR with no problems.  I have
this interconnected through DDUtil to change the radio frequency (DX spots)
and the SteppIR controller simultaneously.  All works flawlessly on the same
computer.  I am using Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit on this machine.

73,

Bill
AB4BJ

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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gwyn Williams
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:13 AM
To: Flex Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] Flex-5000A

Hi Everyone,

I am considering using a logging program on the same Vista machine as I 
run my Flex. Does anyone use a general logging program in this way? I've 
seen some entries concerning the N1MM software but I am not that 
interested in contest logging at the moment!

Have a good day and good DXing
73's,
Gwyn - G4FKH

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Re: [Flexradio] Flex-5000A

2010-02-19 Thread Bill Jourdain
I use ACLog by N3FJP on the same machine as PSDR with no problems.  I have
this interconnected through DDUtil to change the radio frequency (DX spots)
and the SteppIR controller simultaneously.  All works flawlessly on the same
computer.  I am using Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit on this machine.

73,

Bill
AB4BJ

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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gwyn Williams
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:13 AM
To: Flex Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] Flex-5000A

Hi Everyone,

I am considering using a logging program on the same Vista machine as I 
run my Flex. Does anyone use a general logging program in this way? I've 
seen some entries concerning the N1MM software but I am not that 
interested in contest logging at the moment!

Have a good day and good DXing
73's,
Gwyn - G4FKH

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Re: [Flexradio] Flex-5000A

2010-02-19 Thread David McKenzie
I use Ham Radio Deluxe's logbook and digital mode software with no issues.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Gwyn Williams  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am considering using a logging program on the same Vista machine as I run
> my Flex. Does anyone use a general logging program in this way? I've seen
> some entries concerning the N1MM software but I am not that interested in
> contest logging at the moment!
>
> Have a good day and good DXing
> 73's,
> Gwyn - G4FKH
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[Flexradio] Flex-5000A

2010-02-19 Thread Lee A Crocker
DX lab suite

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/



  
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[Flexradio] Flex-5000A

2010-02-19 Thread Gwyn Williams

Hi Everyone,

I am considering using a logging program on the same Vista machine as I 
run my Flex. Does anyone use a general logging program in this way? I've 
seen some entries concerning the N1MM software but I am not that 
interested in contest logging at the moment!


Have a good day and good DXing
73's,
Gwyn - G4FKH

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