Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Yah I always get the usual yer 599 w/great sounding and cool looking D-104 audio when I use mine. But I prefer some others that just don't have the cool looks! Heil,Shure,Kenwood, and one cheapo guitar store mic. I am accepting other freebies if you will pay the shipping! To each their own. 73 Jay - NO5J On 1/9/2014 4:51 PM, manual...@juno.com wrote: I use a D-104 with the Flex 5000 many times cause it looks cool and works well. Pete, wa2cwa http://www.manualman.com On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:41:44 -0600 "Patrick Greenlee" writes: Here is a vote for the Heil PR40. Plenty of other mikes out there and you can discuss mikes to death but I have never heard a good argument against the PR40 other than it cost more than using a crystal ear bud and gluing a plastic funnel to it and shouting into the funnel. Why drive a screw with a hammer when there is a perfectly good tool for the job. You find me something that has more capability for the buck as applied to ham radio and I might want one. Hasn't happened yet. Patrick NJ5G -Original Message- From: Scott Blixt Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:23 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need to make it work with the Flex? On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just OK... ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- Jay - NO5J n...@no5j.org ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
I'm using an Audio Technica ATR30 with the built-in equalizer in my 5000A. The mic has a frequency response of 60~15kHz, is designed for vocals, and cost $30. And I get the famed "unsolicited reports of great audio" using it. Personally, I just can't see spending huge bucks on a microphone for SSB. But then again, I'm not into the "Single Wideband" nonsense, either.. 73, Jim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
I had a Heil 781 and got better reports with a D-104. All mikes used with my 5000 got reports of being bassy until I skewed the response WAY WAY down on the low frequencies On Thursday, January 9, 2014 6:13 PM, William H. Fite wrote: Obviously (at least I hope it was obvious), I was being facetious about using a Neumann 150, which currently runs on the order of $6500 a copy. I'm a happy Heil owner and I agree that Bob has done the amateur community a great service over the years. But...so often we speak to each other as if the only choices were Heil or some ten cent POS that it is wise to remind ourselves once in a while that there are many, many mics out there, including relatively inexpensive studio mics that will beat the pants off anything from Heil. And that is no slam at Heil. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:51 PM, wrote: > I use a D-104 with the Flex 5000 many times cause it looks cool and works > well. > > Pete, wa2cwa > http://www.manualman.com/ > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:41:44 -0600 "Patrick Greenlee" > writes: > > Here is a vote for the Heil PR40. Plenty of other mikes out there > > and you > > can discuss mikes to death but I have never heard a good argument > > against > > the PR40 other than it cost more than using a crystal ear bud and > > gluing a > > plastic funnel to it and shouting into the funnel. > > > > Why drive a screw with a hammer when there is a perfectly good tool > > for the > > job. > > > > You find me something that has more capability for the buck as > > applied to > > ham radio and I might want one. Hasn't happened yet. > > > > Patrick NJ5G > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Scott Blixt > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:23 PM > > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > > > > I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need > > to make > > it work with the Flex? > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It > > was just > > > OK... > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > -- I can explain it for you, but I can't comprehend it for you. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] post-I Internal tuner of Flex-3000
I match a standard G5RV 80-10 meters with only the ATU in my Flex 5000 with no difficulty achieving 1.0:1 SWR on all bands except 17 meters which is 1.4:1 SWR. Actually, on 80 meters the antenna will tune with SWR 1.0:1 without ATU at resonance. Dave W7IWW -Original Message- From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of hmattc...@juno.com Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:59 PM To: dwmu...@gmail.com Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] post-I Internal tuner of Flex-3000 Dave, Thanks for the article. Is anyone using a closed loop that will tune on the Flex from 80-10 meters? The length of my antenna and ladder line length may not be cut properly. I am using a closed loop of 262ft fed with ladder line into a 4:1 balun and into a short piece of RG213 into the shack window. Is there any antenna that will tune 80-10 meters thru the 3000 There may not be such an antenna? Thanks for anyone,s assistance. Matthew-KJ4TN ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6969 - Release Date: 01/02/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Obviously (at least I hope it was obvious), I was being facetious about using a Neumann 150, which currently runs on the order of $6500 a copy. I'm a happy Heil owner and I agree that Bob has done the amateur community a great service over the years. But...so often we speak to each other as if the only choices were Heil or some ten cent POS that it is wise to remind ourselves once in a while that there are many, many mics out there, including relatively inexpensive studio mics that will beat the pants off anything from Heil. And that is no slam at Heil. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:51 PM, wrote: > I use a D-104 with the Flex 5000 many times cause it looks cool and works > well. > > Pete, wa2cwa > http://www.manualman.com > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:41:44 -0600 "Patrick Greenlee" > writes: > > Here is a vote for the Heil PR40. Plenty of other mikes out there > > and you > > can discuss mikes to death but I have never heard a good argument > > against > > the PR40 other than it cost more than using a crystal ear bud and > > gluing a > > plastic funnel to it and shouting into the funnel. > > > > Why drive a screw with a hammer when there is a perfectly good tool > > for the > > job. > > > > You find me something that has more capability for the buck as > > applied to > > ham radio and I might want one. Hasn't happened yet. > > > > Patrick NJ5G > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Scott Blixt > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:23 PM > > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > > > > I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need > > to make > > it work with the Flex? > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It > > was just > > > OK... > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > -- I can explain it for you, but I can't comprehend it for you. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] post-I Internal tuner of Flex-3000
Dave, Thanks for the article. Is anyone using a closed loop that will tune on the Flex from 80-10 meters? The length of my antenna and ladder line length may not be cut properly. I am using a closed loop of 262ft fed with ladder line into a 4:1 balun and into a short piece of RG213 into the shack window. Is there any antenna that will tune 80-10 meters thru the 3000 There may not be such an antenna? Thanks for anyone,s assistance. Matthew-KJ4TN ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
I use a D-104 with the Flex 5000 many times cause it looks cool and works well. Pete, wa2cwa http://www.manualman.com On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:41:44 -0600 "Patrick Greenlee" writes: > Here is a vote for the Heil PR40. Plenty of other mikes out there > and you > can discuss mikes to death but I have never heard a good argument > against > the PR40 other than it cost more than using a crystal ear bud and > gluing a > plastic funnel to it and shouting into the funnel. > > Why drive a screw with a hammer when there is a perfectly good tool > for the > job. > > You find me something that has more capability for the buck as > applied to > ham radio and I might want one. Hasn't happened yet. > > Patrick NJ5G > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Blixt > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:23 PM > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > > I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need > to make > it work with the Flex? > > > > On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It > was just > > OK... ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Here is a vote for the Heil PR40. Plenty of other mikes out there and you can discuss mikes to death but I have never heard a good argument against the PR40 other than it cost more than using a crystal ear bud and gluing a plastic funnel to it and shouting into the funnel. Why drive a screw with a hammer when there is a perfectly good tool for the job. You find me something that has more capability for the buck as applied to ham radio and I might want one. Hasn't happened yet. Patrick NJ5G -Original Message- From: Scott Blixt Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:23 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need to make it work with the Flex? On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just OK... Scott Blixt A Minnesota MadMan ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ No infections found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo System Shield http://www.iolo.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need to make it work with the Flex? On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just > OK... Scott Blixt A Minnesota MadMan ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Never meant to imply, suggest the Heil was the only choice, just one of two items in this and very frequent/popular discussions, and perhaps an obvious made-for-ham use option without special cables, EQ/mixer, etc. I'd love to have a Neumann though I don't know what I would do with it. I have dealt with and heard (not enjoyed) an overwhelming number of mis-handled SM58s and such and when I can get a performer to disconnect his "guitar store" mic and try something like a PR35 and everyone notices in about 8 bars it's better for them... done. I wear what fits. What fits me may not fit others. Your mileage may vary. (I will add that if Bob really does as much for entry to and enjoyment of ham radio as I believe, he's done as much or more for educating the hobby in digestible ways on truly practical and useful things as well or better than the ARRL/QST has, so I'm happy to pay his firm a fair price for an effective product I enjoy. Like Flex, made in America by people who understand and care about their customers! I don't see Icom, Kenwood or Yaesu as concerned.) From: William H. Fite To: Bob Kay Cc: Jim Aspinwall ; "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations My primary mic is a Heil 781 but I feel compelled to point out that there are MANY alternatives. It is by no means a choice between Heil and a five buck electret. Shop around. Guys who obsess over their audio quality might want a Neumann M-150. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Bob Kay wrote: Check out the details on w1aex web page about his cheap mic. I use a PR40 >and the mic that w1aex describes. As a cheap mic I get many good audio >reports from both. > > >On Thursday, January 9, 2014, Jim Aspinwall wrote: > >> >> >> Observations: Heil vs. electret... >> >> If you work through the Heil site and a couple of his videos on HamNation, >> etc. some things become compelling... >> >> - Electrets are VERY sensitive and will pick up a lot of background noise, >> front, back, left, right, etc. (fannoise, kids, cats, dogs, lawn >> equipment...) >> >> - Heils are designed with acoustic shaping for front pickup of a local >> voice source and cancelling back and side background >> >> >> - Electrets have little or no native spectral response shaping, generally >> poor on the lo-end, extended high end (useless) spectral range so you'll be >> into the equalizer settings a lot to get things sounding right, if at all. >> OK for shotgun and 'bug' mics, not great for radio. >> - Heil's ham line are almost perfect un-equalized for ham voice use and >> much more tolerant avoiding pop, hiss, RF, etc. >> - Heil's pro line can be amazingly and easily well tailored for ham use >> from AM through DX >> >> >> - Electrets require DC bias - opportunities for RF, hum intrusion, another >> complication >> - Heil - no bias >> >> >> I have the Heil HM-Pro, GM-5 and HM-10 and Yaesu and Kenwood cables - the >> Yaesu cable is a direct plug-in for the Flex. Out of the box default Flex >> settings work good, properly setup for gain, EQ, ALC, DX, etc. even better. >> >> Recently acquired a PR35, made an adapter cable to the Yaesu cable, >> external PTT 'dongle' - ran through the recommended audio level setups - >> WONDERFUL. >> >> Given the option - a LOT of reasons to use a Heil in your hand vs. all the >> hassle and potential issues using $5 worth of "kiddie tape recorder" Mr >> Microphone element. >> >> (don't get a dime for this endorsement, just know what has worked very >> well under many rigs/conditions.) >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:22:55 -0500 >> From: > >> To: > > >> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Jim, >> >> I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just >> OK... >> >> I had an old fashioned Astatic D-104 with the $20 W2ENY replacement >> electret >> element that I used with my IC-756ProIII. This works great with my Flex >> 3000. It has a flat response unlike the speech peaked Heil HM-5. If you >> want to tailor the W2ENY element, use the 10 band graphic equalizer in the >> Flex 3000. I would not waste your money on an expensive outboard speech >> processing unit. >> >> http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/ >> http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/instructions.pdf >> >> Roger >> WA1NVC >> >> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:53:51 -0500 >> From: James Eastham > >> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz >> Subject: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations >> Message-ID: > >> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> I'm currently using a Heil HM-5 Mic with my Flex 3K. I'm thinking about >> upgrading and looking for recommendations on what has worked well for >> other 3K owners. I had a QSO the other day with someone who recommended >> to just use a basic computer MIC as in $
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
I agree with William. I was involved in the broadcast biz and happened to own a md441 Sennheiser (sp?) dynamic mic. Awesome sound that gets great reports. But how much you want to spend has more to do with it. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:11 PM, "William H. Fite" wrote: > > My primary mic is a Heil 781 but I feel compelled to point out that there > are MANY alternatives. It is by no means a choice between Heil and a five > buck electret. > > Shop around. Guys who obsess over their audio quality might want a Neumann > M-150. > > >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Bob Kay wrote: >> >> Check out the details on w1aex web page about his cheap mic. I use a PR40 >> and the mic that w1aex describes. As a cheap mic I get many good audio >> reports from both. >> >>> On Thursday, January 9, 2014, Jim Aspinwall wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Observations: Heil vs. electret... >>> >>> If you work through the Heil site and a couple of his videos on >> HamNation, >>> etc. some things become compelling... >>> >>> - Electrets are VERY sensitive and will pick up a lot of background >> noise, >>> front, back, left, right, etc. (fannoise, kids, cats, dogs, lawn >>> equipment...) >>> >>> - Heils are designed with acoustic shaping for front pickup of a local >>> voice source and cancelling back and side background >>> >>> >>> - Electrets have little or no native spectral response shaping, generally >>> poor on the lo-end, extended high end (useless) spectral range so you'll >> be >>> into the equalizer settings a lot to get things sounding right, if at >> all. >>> OK for shotgun and 'bug' mics, not great for radio. >>> - Heil's ham line are almost perfect un-equalized for ham voice use and >>> much more tolerant avoiding pop, hiss, RF, etc. >>> - Heil's pro line can be amazingly and easily well tailored for ham use >>> from AM through DX >>> >>> >>> - Electrets require DC bias - opportunities for RF, hum intrusion, >> another >>> complication >>> - Heil - no bias >>> >>> >>> I have the Heil HM-Pro, GM-5 and HM-10 and Yaesu and Kenwood cables - the >>> Yaesu cable is a direct plug-in for the Flex. Out of the box default >> Flex >>> settings work good, properly setup for gain, EQ, ALC, DX, etc. even >> better. >>> >>> Recently acquired a PR35, made an adapter cable to the Yaesu cable, >>> external PTT 'dongle' - ran through the recommended audio level setups - >>> WONDERFUL. >>> >>> Given the option - a LOT of reasons to use a Heil in your hand vs. all >> the >>> hassle and potential issues using $5 worth of "kiddie tape recorder" Mr >>> Microphone element. >>> >>> (don't get a dime for this endorsement, just know what has worked very >>> well under many rigs/conditions.) >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> >>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:22:55 -0500 >>> From: > >>> To: > >>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>>reply-type=original >>> >>> Jim, >>> >>> I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just >>> OK... >>> >>> I had an old fashioned Astatic D-104 with the $20 W2ENY replacement >>> electret >>> element that I used with my IC-756ProIII. This works great with my Flex >>> 3000. It has a flat response unlike the speech peaked Heil HM-5. If you >>> want to tailor the W2ENY element, use the 10 band graphic equalizer in >> the >>> Flex 3000. I would not waste your money on an expensive outboard speech >>> processing unit. >>> >>> http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/ >>> http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/instructions.pdf >>> >>> Roger >>> WA1NVC >>> >>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:53:51 -0500 >>> From: James Eastham > >>> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz >>> Subject: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations >>> Message-ID: > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> I'm currently using a Heil HM-5 Mic with my Flex 3K. I'm thinking about >>> upgrading and looking for recommendations on what has worked well for >>> other 3K owners.I had a QSO the other day with someone who >> recommended >>> to just use a basic computer MIC as in $9.95 Electret. What I really >>> want is to have great sounding audio and would consider a preamp box I've >>> heard people use ...or would a high quality mic make that unnecessary? >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jim >>> NX3Z >>> ___ >>> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >>> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >>> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >>> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >>> Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: >>> http://www.flexradio.com/ >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those we >> don't ask"* >> ___ >> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
My primary mic is a Heil 781 but I feel compelled to point out that there are MANY alternatives. It is by no means a choice between Heil and a five buck electret. Shop around. Guys who obsess over their audio quality might want a Neumann M-150. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Bob Kay wrote: > Check out the details on w1aex web page about his cheap mic. I use a PR40 > and the mic that w1aex describes. As a cheap mic I get many good audio > reports from both. > > On Thursday, January 9, 2014, Jim Aspinwall wrote: > > > > > > > Observations: Heil vs. electret... > > > > If you work through the Heil site and a couple of his videos on > HamNation, > > etc. some things become compelling... > > > > - Electrets are VERY sensitive and will pick up a lot of background > noise, > > front, back, left, right, etc. (fannoise, kids, cats, dogs, lawn > > equipment...) > > > > - Heils are designed with acoustic shaping for front pickup of a local > > voice source and cancelling back and side background > > > > > > - Electrets have little or no native spectral response shaping, generally > > poor on the lo-end, extended high end (useless) spectral range so you'll > be > > into the equalizer settings a lot to get things sounding right, if at > all. > > OK for shotgun and 'bug' mics, not great for radio. > > - Heil's ham line are almost perfect un-equalized for ham voice use and > > much more tolerant avoiding pop, hiss, RF, etc. > > - Heil's pro line can be amazingly and easily well tailored for ham use > > from AM through DX > > > > > > - Electrets require DC bias - opportunities for RF, hum intrusion, > another > > complication > > - Heil - no bias > > > > > > I have the Heil HM-Pro, GM-5 and HM-10 and Yaesu and Kenwood cables - the > > Yaesu cable is a direct plug-in for the Flex. Out of the box default > Flex > > settings work good, properly setup for gain, EQ, ALC, DX, etc. even > better. > > > > Recently acquired a PR35, made an adapter cable to the Yaesu cable, > > external PTT 'dongle' - ran through the recommended audio level setups - > > WONDERFUL. > > > > Given the option - a LOT of reasons to use a Heil in your hand vs. all > the > > hassle and potential issues using $5 worth of "kiddie tape recorder" Mr > > Microphone element. > > > > (don't get a dime for this endorsement, just know what has worked very > > well under many rigs/conditions.) > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:22:55 -0500 > > From: > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Jim, > > > > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just > > OK... > > > > I had an old fashioned Astatic D-104 with the $20 W2ENY replacement > > electret > > element that I used with my IC-756ProIII. This works great with my Flex > > 3000. It has a flat response unlike the speech peaked Heil HM-5. If you > > want to tailor the W2ENY element, use the 10 band graphic equalizer in > the > > Flex 3000. I would not waste your money on an expensive outboard speech > > processing unit. > > > > http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/ > > http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/instructions.pdf > > > > Roger > > WA1NVC > > > > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:53:51 -0500 > > From: James Eastham > > > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > Subject: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > > Message-ID: > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > I'm currently using a Heil HM-5 Mic with my Flex 3K. I'm thinking about > > upgrading and looking for recommendations on what has worked well for > > other 3K owners.I had a QSO the other day with someone who > recommended > > to just use a basic computer MIC as in $9.95 Electret. What I really > > want is to have great sounding audio and would consider a preamp box I've > > heard people use ...or would a high quality mic make that unnecessary? > > Thanks > > > > Jim > > NX3Z > > ___ > > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > > http://www.flexradio.com/ > > > > > -- > > > > *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those we > don't ask"* > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > -- I can explain it for you, but I can't comprehend it for you. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/li
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Check out the details on w1aex web page about his cheap mic. I use a PR40 and the mic that w1aex describes. As a cheap mic I get many good audio reports from both. On Thursday, January 9, 2014, Jim Aspinwall wrote: > > > Observations: Heil vs. electret... > > If you work through the Heil site and a couple of his videos on HamNation, > etc. some things become compelling... > > - Electrets are VERY sensitive and will pick up a lot of background noise, > front, back, left, right, etc. (fannoise, kids, cats, dogs, lawn > equipment...) > > - Heils are designed with acoustic shaping for front pickup of a local > voice source and cancelling back and side background > > > - Electrets have little or no native spectral response shaping, generally > poor on the lo-end, extended high end (useless) spectral range so you'll be > into the equalizer settings a lot to get things sounding right, if at all. > OK for shotgun and 'bug' mics, not great for radio. > - Heil's ham line are almost perfect un-equalized for ham voice use and > much more tolerant avoiding pop, hiss, RF, etc. > - Heil's pro line can be amazingly and easily well tailored for ham use > from AM through DX > > > - Electrets require DC bias - opportunities for RF, hum intrusion, another > complication > - Heil - no bias > > > I have the Heil HM-Pro, GM-5 and HM-10 and Yaesu and Kenwood cables - the > Yaesu cable is a direct plug-in for the Flex. Out of the box default Flex > settings work good, properly setup for gain, EQ, ALC, DX, etc. even better. > > Recently acquired a PR35, made an adapter cable to the Yaesu cable, > external PTT 'dongle' - ran through the recommended audio level setups - > WONDERFUL. > > Given the option - a LOT of reasons to use a Heil in your hand vs. all the > hassle and potential issues using $5 worth of "kiddie tape recorder" Mr > Microphone element. > > (don't get a dime for this endorsement, just know what has worked very > well under many rigs/conditions.) > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:22:55 -0500 > From: > > To: > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Jim, > > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just > OK... > > I had an old fashioned Astatic D-104 with the $20 W2ENY replacement > electret > element that I used with my IC-756ProIII. This works great with my Flex > 3000. It has a flat response unlike the speech peaked Heil HM-5. If you > want to tailor the W2ENY element, use the 10 band graphic equalizer in the > Flex 3000. I would not waste your money on an expensive outboard speech > processing unit. > > http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/ > http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/instructions.pdf > > Roger > WA1NVC > > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:53:51 -0500 > From: James Eastham > > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I'm currently using a Heil HM-5 Mic with my Flex 3K. I'm thinking about > upgrading and looking for recommendations on what has worked well for > other 3K owners.I had a QSO the other day with someone who recommended > to just use a basic computer MIC as in $9.95 Electret. What I really > want is to have great sounding audio and would consider a preamp box I've > heard people use ...or would a high quality mic make that unnecessary? > Thanks > > Jim > NX3Z > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > -- *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those we don't ask"* ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Observations: Heil vs. electret... If you work through the Heil site and a couple of his videos on HamNation, etc. some things become compelling... - Electrets are VERY sensitive and will pick up a lot of background noise, front, back, left, right, etc. (fannoise, kids, cats, dogs, lawn equipment...) - Heils are designed with acoustic shaping for front pickup of a local voice source and cancelling back and side background - Electrets have little or no native spectral response shaping, generally poor on the lo-end, extended high end (useless) spectral range so you'll be into the equalizer settings a lot to get things sounding right, if at all. OK for shotgun and 'bug' mics, not great for radio. - Heil's ham line are almost perfect un-equalized for ham voice use and much more tolerant avoiding pop, hiss, RF, etc. - Heil's pro line can be amazingly and easily well tailored for ham use from AM through DX - Electrets require DC bias - opportunities for RF, hum intrusion, another complication - Heil - no bias I have the Heil HM-Pro, GM-5 and HM-10 and Yaesu and Kenwood cables - the Yaesu cable is a direct plug-in for the Flex. Out of the box default Flex settings work good, properly setup for gain, EQ, ALC, DX, etc. even better. Recently acquired a PR35, made an adapter cable to the Yaesu cable, external PTT 'dongle' - ran through the recommended audio level setups - WONDERFUL. Given the option - a LOT of reasons to use a Heil in your hand vs. all the hassle and potential issues using $5 worth of "kiddie tape recorder" Mr Microphone element. (don't get a dime for this endorsement, just know what has worked very well under many rigs/conditions.) Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:22:55 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Jim, I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just OK... I had an old fashioned Astatic D-104 with the $20 W2ENY replacement electret element that I used with my IC-756ProIII. This works great with my Flex 3000. It has a flat response unlike the speech peaked Heil HM-5. If you want to tailor the W2ENY element, use the 10 band graphic equalizer in the Flex 3000. I would not waste your money on an expensive outboard speech processing unit. http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/ http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/instructions.pdf Roger WA1NVC Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:53:51 -0500 From: James Eastham To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm currently using a Heil HM-5 Mic with my Flex 3K. I'm thinking about upgrading and looking for recommendations on what has worked well for other 3K owners. I had a QSO the other day with someone who recommended to just use a basic computer MIC as in $9.95 Electret. What I really want is to have great sounding audio and would consider a preamp box I've heard people use ...or would a high quality mic make that unnecessary? Thanks Jim NX3Z ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] post-I Internal tuner of Flex-3000
Dudley, I am running 2.6.4. That is just my experience. May not hold true for others. Thanks Matthew-KJ4TN. P.S. I run remote hams.com also. I was trying to put up an antenna that the internal tuner would tune on all bands. My 262 ft horizontal loop should be a good all band antenna. I have never had any trouble tuning it with my MFJ 989 tuner. I have recently tried the internal tuner in my Flex-3000 and am unable to get the results I need. Only 80,40,20 tune well. Ten meters does not tune at all. MFJ has no problems with it or any bands from 10-80 meters Again Dudley my results may not be typical of other users. That is why my comments stated that this was my experience but may not be the case for other users. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] John's Tuner Issue
John, I participate in several state QSO parties single op unassisted and find myself looking for a good spot to stop and activate a county in terrain similar to yours. I use the Tarheel 200 and fine tune with the iportable antenna analyzer. I'm very happy with the results and you would have the capability to be truly mobile. That way I don't have to rely on a tuner which may or may not be the best thing for maximum signal output. Good luck and hope to hear you come back to me in a QSO party this year. Russ K5ZZR My Heroes Wear Combat Boots! ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
