Re: [Flexradio] 1500 and THP HL45B

2013-09-03 Thread bearcreekcattery
Using the HL45B as an IPA to drive a PA works well.  Consideration must
be given to hard line keying both amps.  The HL45B requires making up a
keying line with a proprietary pin out (not a phono plug).  If you are
soldering iron challenged, Array Solutions will make one up for you.

Jim
de nx4e
 
On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 18:48:33 -0700 (PDT) amfone amfone20...@yahoo.com
writes:
   Anyone every try the Tokyo High Power HL45B with the Flex 1500 and 
 wonder if so what experience's you had? I'm  thinking of using the 
 amp alone with the Flex but also to drive a larger amp like the 
 Drake L7.
 
 
 Thanks 73
 Tim
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[Flexradio] Amplifier for 1500

2013-06-22 Thread bearcreekcattery
Jim:  If you would settle for 3db less power output, the THL 45B works
well in this application with the 1500.  Cost around $450 new at HRO. 
Array Solutions will build the keying cable, plug and play, if you elect
to farm that task out.  I used one as an IPA to drive a pair of 3-500Zs
on 6 meters with a 1500.5 watts input1000 + output with this
train.  The THL 45B is a sturdy little beast, as is all their gear!

Best,

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Re: [Flexradio] broad band noise

2013-05-30 Thread bearcreekcattery
That seems to be a mirror image of my experience.  

73

Jim
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On Wed, 29 May 2013 19:59:06 -0500 Bill Tynan
billandmat...@windstream.net writes:
 Jim:
 
 Do you have your noise blanker turned on? The kind of behavior you 
 mention 
 is common to all noise blankers, even software ones. I have it with 
 my Flex 
 5000. I turn off the noise blanker and the problem goes away.
 
 73,
 
 Bill Tynan, W3XO
 
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 To: 
Jim Broaddus
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Panama City, Florida USA
850 722-9927
 Subject: [Flexradio] broad band noise
 
  Query:  My 3000 has phantom audio issues, for lack of a better 
 way to
  verbalize, especially noted when pre amp is on and a strong cw 
 signal is
  received on an adjacent frequency, as far as 100 Khz off center 
 freq!
  Turning preamp off helps, but is not a cure.  I operate this rig 
 mainly
  on 6 meters, for what it's worth, although band selection 
 shouldn't be a
  factor.  This cw splatter condition is strong enough to be 
 copied 100
  Khz +/- above and below freq on which it is actually transmitted.
 
  Thoughts?
 
  Jim
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[Flexradio] broad band noise

2013-05-29 Thread bearcreekcattery
Query:  My 3000 has phantom audio issues, for lack of a better way to
verbalize, especially noted when pre amp is on and a strong cw signal is
received on an adjacent frequency, as far as 100 Khz off center freq! 
Turning preamp off helps, but is not a cure.  I operate this rig mainly
on 6 meters, for what it's worth, although band selection shouldn't be a
factor.  This cw splatter condition is strong enough to be copied 100
Khz +/- above and below freq on which it is actually transmitted.
 
Thoughts?
 
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Re: [Flexradio] broad band noise

2013-05-29 Thread bearcreekcattery
Post script.  Issue seems worse when noise blanker is on.  Actually
better with the ANF on and both noise blankers off.

Jim
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On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:02:50 -0700 Greg a...@cablespeed.com writes:
 Jim,
 
 Is you noise blanker ON?
 
 If so, see if the same condition persists with it off.
 
 73
 Greg
 
 
 On 5/29/13, bearcreekcatt...@juno.com bearcreekcatt...@juno.com 
 wrote:
  Query:  My 3000 has phantom audio issues, for lack of a better 
 way to
  verbalize, especially noted when pre amp is on and a strong cw 
 signal is
  received on an adjacent frequency, as far as 100 Khz off center 
 freq!
  Turning preamp off helps, but is not a cure.  I operate this rig 
 mainly
  on 6 meters, for what it's worth, although band selection 
 shouldn't be a
  factor.  This cw splatter condition is strong enough to be 
 copied 100
  Khz +/- above and below freq on which it is actually transmitted.
 
  Thoughts?
 
  Jim
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Re: [Flexradio] broad band noise

2013-05-29 Thread bearcreekcattery
Greg:  That's encouraging to know.  But, a good S9 cw sig can be heard
100 Khz away, faintly.  Not to the point of ad nauseam, but definitely
distracting.  Best I can describe itsounds like something rattling
around in there.  Maybe all 3000's do that!

Big cats are predictablethey are hard wired predators!

Jim
de nx4e

On Wed, 29 May 2013 14:40:49 -0700 Greg a...@cablespeed.com writes:
 Hi Jim.  How strong is the offending signal?  I have seen signals 
 that
 were S9+40 bounce the noise floor up to 40 kHz away with the NB on 
 but
 when off it was maybe about 5-10 kHz.
 
 BTW...I just looked at your website.WOW.  Best word I can use 
 to
 describe what you are doing.  There was a local gal from WA not 
 long
 ago who was volunteering at a similar facility in CA.  Someone left 
 a
 door open and she was killed when feeding.  Reports say she had a
 great rapor with the cat toowondering if the cat thought he was
 playing??
 
 Closest thing I get to wild cats are the barn cats who take care of
 mice in our barn. :)  Its amazing how these ferral cats can still
 develop a relationship with someone once the fear factor wears off.
 They will actually come sit in our laps at times to be loved up. :)
 
 GL
 
 Greg
 AB7R
 
 
 On 5/29/13, bearcreekcatt...@juno.com bearcreekcatt...@juno.com 
 wrote:
  Post script.  Issue seems worse when noise blanker is on.  
 Actually
  better with the ANF on and both noise blankers off.
 
  Jim
  de nx4e
  On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:02:50 -0700 Greg a...@cablespeed.com 
 writes:
  Jim,
 
  Is you noise blanker ON?
 
  If so, see if the same condition persists with it off.
 
  73
  Greg
 
 
  On 5/29/13, bearcreekcatt...@juno.com 
 bearcreekcatt...@juno.com
  wrote:
   Query:  My 3000 has phantom audio issues, for lack of a 
 better
  way to
   verbalize, especially noted when pre amp is on and a strong cw
  signal is
   received on an adjacent frequency, as far as 100 Khz off 
 center
  freq!
   Turning preamp off helps, but is not a cure.  I operate this 
 rig
  mainly
   on 6 meters, for what it's worth, although band selection
  shouldn't be a
   factor.  This cw splatter condition is strong enough to be
  copied 100
   Khz +/- above and below freq on which it is actually 
 transmitted.
  
   Thoughts?
  
   Jim
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[Flexradio] more on simplicity

2013-05-25 Thread bearcreekcattery
While were about ita simple digest dealing with
installation/operation of outboard features like the cw skimmer would be
helpful.  I have done it twice now and both times the install was
different.  I made it work, but I am not sure how.  Reminds me of
something Bill Gates did/does/continues to do! Way over the head of the
average ham.  I am an average ham.

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[Flexradio] cottage industry

2013-05-21 Thread bearcreekcattery
Great idea.  Buy Flex rigs on the secondary marketdust them off as
necessary, put a refurb sticker on the highly coveted case (Flex 5001)
and resell them for a profit!  What a niche!  Might want to hire Dudley
away from Flex to run the back room.
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[Flexradio] option

2013-05-21 Thread bearcreekcattery
Email Tentecseriously, they make finely crafted cabinets out of wood!
 When your 5000 CABINET WEARS OUT, no worries.  How cool would that
bea wooden Flex!  LOL.   

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Re: [Flexradio] Flex Financing

2013-05-20 Thread bearcreekcattery
As I say:  real hams use paypal with the bill me later feature.  Pay it
on timezero interest.  Cause it's fashionable to be poor.
 
Jim
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 On 5/20/2013 1:40 PM, Drax Felton wrote:
  For many other pricey hobby products: Jet skis, motorcycles, 
 boats, etc. one can get manufacture labelled financing to buy one.
 
  Why not in Amateur Radio where the only option is a multi-thousand 
 credit card charge?
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[Flexradio] juggler vein

2013-05-20 Thread bearcreekcattery
Some of you guys are serial complainers.  

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[Flexradio] 5000 discontinued (Cont'd)

2013-05-18 Thread bearcreekcattery
As I understand it, comparing the 3000 to the 5000, the 3000 has better
receive sensitivity on 6 meters which is important to me. Some of us
flex-a-holics contend that they may have tried to cram too many modules
into the small 5000 box. I am sure that there are those who will argue
this point.   I have owned a 3000 and a 1500.  I would like to see
multiple SO-239 RF outputs on the 3000, but other than that, it's the
most bang for the buck out there IMHO.  It could be a mistake to
discontinue the 3000.  I understand the marketing behind deleting the
5000 from the line.  I wonder what that will do to the used secondary
5000 market?  We shall soon see!

With reference to the Apache, with all due respect:  Be Americanbuy
American!  Tentec, Elecraft, Flex are the big 3 to me.

Best,

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[Flexradio] Did I Mis Quote?

2013-05-18 Thread bearcreekcattery

Last night, I read on this list, a comment from a dependable person that
the 5000 would be discontinued.  I have not horse in this race.  Just
quoting a reliable source.

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[Flexradio] No mas pantalones?

2013-05-15 Thread bearcreekcattery


Oklet's take a vote:  Respect yes.  No question about that.  Purchase
of a new rig:  YES_  NO_  LOL__


Best,

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What's up with this wife approval stuff?  Real hams use paypal and bill
me later while they hide their purchases from their wives.  No mas
pantalones?


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[Flexradio] so sorry

2013-05-15 Thread bearcreekcattery
You did not really think that I hide my equipment from my wife did you? 
That was a joke.  But, I do hide my new motorcycle gear!  

Have fun!

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[Flexradio] Fw: 2.6.4 issue

2013-05-02 Thread bearcreekcattery
Not firewire drivers but just as quirky.  2.6.4 works now as it should
since I uninstalled virtual serial port emulator!  Some sort of conflict
with these two programs, even though the emulator was shut down.  Touchy
little thing.
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Re: [Flexradio] 2.6.4 issue

2013-05-02 Thread bearcreekcattery
Downloaded and read itbut since the emulator was not turned on, I
thought it would not play into the equation.  But, it did.
My only issue with Flexmaking things work that are complicated.  This
could explain why we see 3000's and 5000's for sale on ebay and QTH!  I
figure that I will solve this little problem by buying a Tentec to use as
a back up when my flex is hosed up.  The Flex will still be #1.  Consumer
loyalty or slightly demented?  Not sure which.

Jim
NX4E
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writes:
 Naughty, naughty!   You didn't download the 14 page set of release 
 notes for 
 2.6.4 !
 
 Lee   K9WRU
 - Original Message - 
 From: bearcreekcatt...@juno.com
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 9:39 PM
 Subject: [Flexradio] 2.6.4 issue
 
 
 I had been running 2.5.3 until my hard drive crashed.  Made sense 
 to me
  to install 2.6.4 at this juncture.  It seemed like the download 
 went as
  it should have and my 3000 is recognized.  When I attempt to run 
 the
  program, a see a pop up window that tells me I need to update my 
 firmware
  to continue.  That's curiousI have the latest 3000 firmware
  installed.  When the update option is selected, I receive a 
 message
  saying it's complete and that I should restart Power SDR.  It just 
 keeps
  looping around itself repeating the same updated needed message, 
 never
  allowing me to go beyond that point.  No joy!  What's the 
 workaround for
  this?
 
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[Flexradio] 2.6.4 issue

2013-05-01 Thread bearcreekcattery
I had been running 2.5.3 until my hard drive crashed.  Made sense to me
to install 2.6.4 at this juncture.  It seemed like the download went as
it should have and my 3000 is recognized.  When I attempt to run the
program, a see a pop up window that tells me I need to update my firmware
to continue.  That's curiousI have the latest 3000 firmware
installed.  When the update option is selected, I receive a message
saying it's complete and that I should restart Power SDR.  It just keeps
looping around itself repeating the same updated needed message, never
allowing me to go beyond that point.  No joy!  What's the workaround for
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Re: [Flexradio] Legacy Radios?

2013-04-17 Thread bearcreekcattery
I wouldn't imagine that the 3000 would not be declared legacy  in the
near future.  They say that the 5000's receiver is slightly more
sensitive and it can be lashed up with an assortment of modules. My 3000
does everything I want it to do, with the possible exception of its
potential to overdrive an rf amplifier w/o tieing it to an ALC circuit. 
Some of the Tokyo Hy Power Labs linear amps come with a printed warning,
stating not to use them with SDR's w/o ALC.  The SDR's have quite a few
interconnects that increase the possibility for induction of problematic
proximity static electricity.  

I am looking for a back up for my 3000 and I just might select another
3000 to be kept in an shielded box under the bed as lightning tends to
find my rigs quite often here in Florida, just off the Gulf of Mexico. 
Moving forward, I am hopeful that Flex will not follow in Microsoft's
footsteps, keying on knowledge gained after their introduction of Windows
8 which seems to be influenced by too much touch screen.

Jim
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 18:40:49 +0100 Mike mi...@m0aws.co.uk writes:
 For me legacy means old and no longer supported, especially in the
 software world, where I spend most of my life, and since PSDR is
 software ...
 
 :-)
 
 73,
 
 Mike.
 
 On 17/04/13 18:20, Greg wrote:
  I don't think their use of the word legacy is meant in the context 
 of
  obsolete, even though that is one of the definitions.  I believe 
 it
  is meant that they are the predecessor of their latest 
 technology.
 
  anything handed down from the past, as from an ancestor or
  predecessor: (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/legacy)
 
 
  73
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Re: [Flexradio] Microphone recommendations for 5000?

2012-11-10 Thread bearcreekcattery
If you want to go all the way to the top, look at the specs on the Heil
Pro 40.  Adaptors are available for those who want plug and play
compatibility with their flex rigs.  I know, many will say that this mic
is an overkill.   For me, it was a good investment since I wanted
broadcast quality, durability and bragging rights.  Available new on ebay
for about $275then, there is always the cost of the adaptors and the
PTT devise (hand trigger or foot switch).  You will need an inexpensive
mic stand or a more expensive mic boom with or without a shock mount.  A
Pop Filter is available which actually works!  Very cool.

Jim
de nx4e

 
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:48:44 -0500 (EST) Dennis Erickson
dericks...@aol.com writes:
 
 
 Which mic should I get.  It needs to be plug ready as I do not have 
 solder gun yet.
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] New 5000a Owner Panic

2012-10-12 Thread bearcreekcattery
RFI can occur when there is an impedance mismatch betweeen the
transceiver and the antenna.  Coax acts like it's actually three
conductorsthe center, inter shield and outer shield.  Ofter, RF
voltage feedback travels into the transceiver on the outer shield. 
Straight out of the ARRL handbook.  Usually more noticable on 10 meters
than on 80.  Solution.tweek the antenna for less that 1.5:1 VSWR.
When computers are added to the equasion, RFI can be reduced with proper
groundinng and toroid cores.  

White Man's Magic.

Jim
de nx4e
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:38:15 -0700
=?utf-8?B?Um9iZXJ0IENvc3RhLCBLQjZRWE0=?= kb6...@yahoo.com writes:
 I have the same issue. Works on 80 and audio is distorted on 20 
 meters. I'll bet it is RF ingress issues like mine. Now to determine 
 where the RF is coming into the radio.
 
 73,
 Robert
 KB6QXM
 Ham Radio Open Conversation
 Yahoo group owner/moderator
 
 
 - Reply message -
 From: Ken Akin kena...@gmail.com
 To: aar...@gmail.com
 Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: [Flexradio] New 5000a Owner Panic
 Date: Thu, Oct 11, 2012 8:41 pm
 
 
 Aaren -
 
 The it works on 80, dies on 20  very much sounds like RF getting 
 into the
 computer.  Others can give you a list of things to check, but to 
 start with
 - you need a short solid ground connection between the 5000 and the 
 PC.  RF
 in the shack may result from high swr, keeping RF off of the outside 
 of the
 coax when it comes into the shack (using  *Toroidal Chokes* on the 
 coax)
 can help a lot.
 
 73
 
 Ken  AC0HO
 
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Aaren:
 
 
   1. Front mic port is DOA right out of the box.
 
 
  Check to make sure that the notch on the mic connector is lined 
 up
  correctly with the port when you plug it in. I've noticed that 
 some
  connectors go in without the notch being aligned.
 
  Tony
 
 
 
  On 10/11/2012 10:54 PM, Aaren Jensen wrote:
 
  I took delivery of a new 5000a with ATU 3 days ago and I'm having 
 a case
  of
  panic and potential buyers remorse. Please expound some wisdom or 
 talk me
  off the cliff.
 
 
  1. Front mic port is DOA right out of the box. I've switched 
 to a xlr
  mic plugged into the balanced port on the rear and I'm 
 clicking MOX
  on and
  off to transmit. It's a work around but it looks like I'll 
 already
  have to
  send it back straight away for repair. Arggh. I have a ticket 
 open
  with
  Flex and I'm waiting for approval to return it.
  2. Band conditions are horrible this week but for two nights 
 browsing
  around 80m and 40m are it's working and no problems other 
 than my own
  learning curve.
  3. Tonight I venture onto 20m and every time I key the mic 
 PowerSDR
  freezes and crashes. Takes a few minutes to recover and 
 reboot
  everything
  and I try again with the same results. I was able to 
 participate on a
  80m
  net with no problems, then back to 20m and more crashes. I 
 thought it
  was
  the power output and played with that, but no real pattern 
 emerged?
  4. At one point it locked up so bad I couldn't even start 
 PowerSDR
  anymore and had to remove the entire software package, 
 reboot,
  reinstall,
  reboot, and treat the rig like it was a fresh first time 
 install
  again.
  Back to 20m with everything new and default, tuned, keyed mic 
 and app
  crashes
 
  Help oh wise Elmers on the mountain top.
 
  73
 
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Re: [Flexradio] Game changing

2012-05-23 Thread bearcreekcattery
 Let's see it this post makes it, or winds up on the cutting room
floor.  My dealings with Flex Radio's Tim Ellison have come to a
screaming halt!  He quoted me a firm price for a new 5000A with ATU and
second receiver option, $2998. I asked Tim Ellison 3 times to check his
numbers and he led me to believe that this price was firm.  Well,
yesterday, I received an email from him saying that he had made a mistake
and the transceiver package price was $3499!  He said that he made an
honest mistake! Where I come from, if a supplier or individual quotes a
price and the buyer accepts it, that's a contract.  The arrogance of Flex
has turned me off for their gear.  This is a real disappointment, as I
just sold/traded my IC756 Pro III and my Yaesu FT-897D package to amass
funds to finance the new Flex. Bottom linebe careful with companies
who zoom up to the top, as sometimes they move too fast causing customer
service to suffer.  If I should buy another Flex, it would be a used one
from an individual, not from Flex Radio.  I have waisted much time and I
am very frustrated.

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[Flexradio] Apology

2012-05-23 Thread bearcreekcattery
I apologize for my comments posted here to the group. You guys were
right.  What I said was inappropriate.   I had no way of knowing that Tim
had an ongoing health issue.  I hope that I have not offended anyone's
sensitivities.  I will lay low in the tall grass!  I have been told that
I am sometimes too aggressive. In my own defense, I work with big cats
professionally, and I have become hardened.

Truly sorry,


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[Flexradio] Flex 5000 wanted

2012-05-20 Thread bearcreekcattery

 I trust that this post will not be in violation of user group protocols 
Understanding that there are those of you who want to upgrade to the 6000
series,  I seek to purchase a like new 5000, preferably with tuner and
second receiver.  I am available at my personal email address:
bearcreekcatt...@juno.com for discussions.

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Re: [Flexradio] the cost

2012-05-19 Thread bearcreekcattery
Observations from a big cat wranglerfor me, the only thing more
exciting than working with one of our big cats here at BCFC, a 501(c)(3)
non profit feline sanctuary, is taking a break between tours to sneak off
and work 6 meters on my little Flex 1500!   Now here's the big news:  for
many of us who are unable to plunk down 6K for a 6000, the introduction
of this new radio may drive the Flex 5000 market down to the point where
we may see, for the first time, these great 5000's available on the used
market as flex-a-holics trade up.  As I spoke to Tim at Flex yesterday,
he communicated to me that there may be a few used 5000's available
directly through Flex, under full warranty, at price points that we have
never seen before.  Not to shabby!  

Best,

Jim Broaddus
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:21:44 + (UTC) amsct...@comcast.net writes:
 I heard murmurings about the price of the 6700 on the floor at Dayton 
 yesterday, and expected this to appear on the reflector. I have to 
 say that I find the price on both the 6500 and the 6700 to be 
 extremely fair. 
 
 What do I base this opinion on? Look at 6000 series pamphlet, and 
 Google the FPGAs that Flex are using; the Xlinx XC6VLX130T (used 
 in the 6700) cost, in single unit quantities, over $1200.00 USD! 
 FPGAs are complex, expensive, their yields are low and the price of 
 the development tools are not cheap. My company uses a suite that 
 cost $40K USD per seat... 
 
 I'm sure that Flex is pricing both models as competitively as 
 possible, and is not using a prestige pricing model. I'm also sure 
 that, based on sales of 1500s and 3000s, they are well aware that 
 many people can't (or won't) pay $7K. This is why they are 
 offering two models, so as to compete in two price-to-performance 
 arenas. 
 
 Personally, I most certainly do not want Flex to de-content the 
 6700 to make it more affordable. I want the performance advantages 
 of the 6700 and am willing to pay for it. 
 
 
 Mike Alexander 
 
 amsct...@comcast.net 
 
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 To: Reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz 
 Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:18:51 AM 
 Subject: [Flexradio] the cost 
 
 
 just my own opinion since we all live in very bad economy if the 
 price of $7k or any in this area it is very high make me wonder how 
 many people will buy 
 black box for $7k or 7.000 euro or more , ? 
 the price to add for update is make it high as well but not for all 
 of us , I will say if the price is $2100 or in this area I will say 
 update of $300 OR �300 WILL WORK GREAT FOR EVERY ONE this for a 
 year .flex will make more mony by doing it .since they will sale 
 more and get more . 
 yes it cost money nothing is for free and I am sure flex will have 0 
 bug on since you pay for it no ?? 
 flex keep the price down so every one will have this new 6700 and 
 enjoy it I hope they will 
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