Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
I think Ray is on the money here. VAC in and of itself is not without processing. It is selecting DIGL/DIGU that causes the DSP to leave the input unprocessed. Try turning on VAC while in USB mode and I think you'll find you already have what you're looking for (processing option for VAC inputs). Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ray, K9DUR > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 3:25 PM > To: 'Robert Dennison'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers > > Rob, > > Like anything, one person's feature is another person's bug. The audio > coming in through VAC intentionally bypass all audio processing (EQ, > compression, etc.) because it was envisioned to be used only for "digital" > modes. I used quotes because SSTV, while not a digital mode, would still > use VAC. In any event, it would not be beneficial to use any audio > processing with these modes. > > Perhaps the feature that should be asked for is to make the inclusion of > the > audio processing optional with VAC. > > All of that said, a question comes to mind. Is it VAC that bypasses the > audio processing, or is it selecting DIGL or DIGU mode? I am not certain. > This is where we need Tim or one of the software developers to step in. > > 73, Ray, K9DUR > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex- > radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Very good point, Mike, Maybe would should strike a deal with our programmers: We'll back of on new ideas for PowerSDR until they get the User Interface split off... vy 73 Rob AB7CF On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:21:30 -0400 Mike Naruta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Instead of having FRS change PowerSDR, > I'd rather have them get version 2 going. > That will split out the User Interface > and make lots of changes possible. > > > > > Robert Dennison wrote: > > Hey Dan, > > > > Thanks... > > > > Looks like you've put your finger on an improvement for PowerSDR. > Surely > > the equalizer ought to be in the mic audio stream no matter how we > enter. > > > > Maybe we can get Tim Ellison to weigh in... > > > > vy 73 > > Rob > > AB7CF > > > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Mike, Thank you! Bob K5KDN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Naruta Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 3:21 PM To: FlexRadio Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers Instead of having FRS change PowerSDR, I'd rather have them get version 2 going. That will split out the User Interface and make lots of changes possible. Robert Dennison wrote: > Hey Dan, > > Thanks... > > Looks like you've put your finger on an improvement for PowerSDR. Surely > the equalizer ought to be in the mic audio stream no matter how we enter. > > Maybe we can get Tim Ellison to weigh in... > > vy 73 > Rob > AB7CF > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
PowerSDR has only one audio input channel that is "processed" That is the microphone audio in. VAC when auto enabled, is intended for interfacing to digital mode sound card programs, which needs unprocessed audio. Try un-checking the VAC auto enable option and see what happens. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Dennison Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 4:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers Good point Neal, Best regards, Rob AB7CF On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:11:27 -0400 "Neal Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It would have to be "mode sensitive" though because we don't need no > stinkin' eq on digital modes! I imagine thats one of the reasons its > not there currently. > > 73 > Neal > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hey Dan, > > > > Thanks... > > > > Looks like you've put your finger on an improvement for PowerSDR. > Surely > > the equalizer ought to be in the mic audio stream no matter how > we enter. > > > > Maybe we can get Tim Ellison to weigh in... > > > > vy 73 > > Rob > > AB7CF > > > > > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Dan Babcock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > writes: > > > > > > > Rob, > > > > > > I have used a Logitech 350USB headset successfully with the > > > SDR-1000. The connection to PowerSDRis through VAC (Virtual > Audio > > > Cable). This setup works especially wellwith digital audio > modes. > > > The only downsides are the audio chain willnot include the > PowerSDR > > > equalizer control and the stock headphones canbe a little hard > on > > > the ears after an hour. The upsides are good audioreports, > > > flexible, independant software routing of audio through > eitherthe > > > headset or speakers and a price of less than $50 at Office > > > Max(Fabrique en Chine). I have actually seen refurbished ones > for > > > under$20 on amazon.com. > > > > > > BTW, It doesn't have to be a USB headset. A USB desk > microphone and > > > USB speakers would work equally well. > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > Dan N4XWE > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 > > 8:19:38 AM > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers > > Hi > > Trevor, > > Thanks, Though I'm thinking desk or boom mike. I'll > > look into > the > > > Shure. > > > > > > > > > vy 73 > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > ___ > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > ___ > > > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > > > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > Neal Campbell > Abroham Neal Software > Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux > (540) 242 0911 > - > Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com > > For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Rob, Like anything, one person's feature is another person's bug. The audio coming in through VAC intentionally bypass all audio processing (EQ, compression, etc.) because it was envisioned to be used only for "digital" modes. I used quotes because SSTV, while not a digital mode, would still use VAC. In any event, it would not be beneficial to use any audio processing with these modes. Perhaps the feature that should be asked for is to make the inclusion of the audio processing optional with VAC. All of that said, a question comes to mind. Is it VAC that bypasses the audio processing, or is it selecting DIGL or DIGU mode? I am not certain. This is where we need Tim or one of the software developers to step in. 73, Ray, K9DUR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Instead of having FRS change PowerSDR, I'd rather have them get version 2 going. That will split out the User Interface and make lots of changes possible. Robert Dennison wrote: > Hey Dan, > > Thanks... > > Looks like you've put your finger on an improvement for PowerSDR. Surely > the equalizer ought to be in the mic audio stream no matter how we enter. > > Maybe we can get Tim Ellison to weigh in... > > vy 73 > Rob > AB7CF > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Good point Neal, Best regards, Rob AB7CF On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:11:27 -0400 "Neal Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It would have to be "mode sensitive" though because we don't need no > stinkin' eq on digital modes! I imagine thats one of the reasons > its > not there currently. > > 73 > Neal > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hey Dan, > > > > Thanks... > > > > Looks like you've put your finger on an improvement for PowerSDR. > Surely > > the equalizer ought to be in the mic audio stream no matter how > we enter. > > > > Maybe we can get Tim Ellison to weigh in... > > > > vy 73 > > Rob > > AB7CF > > > > > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Dan Babcock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > writes: > > > > > > > Rob, > > > > > > I have used a Logitech 350USB headset successfully with the > > > SDR-1000. The connection to PowerSDRis through VAC (Virtual > Audio > > > Cable). This setup works especially wellwith digital audio > modes. > > > The only downsides are the audio chain willnot include the > PowerSDR > > > equalizer control and the stock headphones canbe a little hard > on > > > the ears after an hour. The upsides are good audioreports, > > > flexible, independant software routing of audio through > eitherthe > > > headset or speakers and a price of less than $50 at Office > > > Max(Fabrique en Chine). I have actually seen refurbished ones > for > > > under$20 on amazon.com. > > > > > > BTW, It doesn't have to be a USB headset. A USB desk > microphone and > > > USB speakers would work equally well. > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > Dan N4XWE > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:19:38 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers > > > > > > Hi Trevor, > > > > > > Thanks, Though I'm thinking desk or boom mike. I'll look into > the > > > Shure. > > > > > > > > > vy 73 > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > ___ > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > ___ > > > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > > > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > Neal Campbell > Abroham Neal Software > Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux > (540) 242 0911 > - > Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com > > For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
It would have to be "mode sensitive" though because we don't need no stinkin' eq on digital modes! I imagine thats one of the reasons its not there currently. 73 Neal On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Dan, > > Thanks... > > Looks like you've put your finger on an improvement for PowerSDR. Surely > the equalizer ought to be in the mic audio stream no matter how we enter. > > Maybe we can get Tim Ellison to weigh in... > > vy 73 > Rob > AB7CF > > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Dan Babcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > > > Rob, > > > > I have used a Logitech 350USB headset successfully with the > > SDR-1000. The connection to PowerSDRis through VAC (Virtual Audio > > Cable). This setup works especially wellwith digital audio modes. > > The only downsides are the audio chain willnot include the PowerSDR > > equalizer control and the stock headphones canbe a little hard on > > the ears after an hour. The upsides are good audioreports, > > flexible, independant software routing of audio through eitherthe > > headset or speakers and a price of less than $50 at Office > > Max(Fabrique en Chine). I have actually seen refurbished ones for > > under$20 on amazon.com. > > > > BTW, It doesn't have to be a USB headset. A USB desk microphone and > > USB speakers would work equally well. > > > > 73, > > > > Dan N4XWE > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:19:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers > > > > Hi Trevor, > > > > Thanks, Though I'm thinking desk or boom mike. I'll look into the > > Shure. > > > > > > vy 73 > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > _ > ___ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > ___ > > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Hey Dan, Thanks... Looks like you've put your finger on an improvement for PowerSDR. Surely the equalizer ought to be in the mic audio stream no matter how we enter. Maybe we can get Tim Ellison to weigh in... vy 73 Rob AB7CF On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Dan Babcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rob, > > I have used a Logitech 350USB headset successfully with the > SDR-1000. The connection to PowerSDRis through VAC (Virtual Audio > Cable). This setup works especially wellwith digital audio modes. > The only downsides are the audio chain willnot include the PowerSDR > equalizer control and the stock headphones canbe a little hard on > the ears after an hour. The upsides are good audioreports, > flexible, independant software routing of audio through eitherthe > headset or speakers and a price of less than $50 at Office > Max(Fabrique en Chine). I have actually seen refurbished ones for > under$20 on amazon.com. > > BTW, It doesn't have to be a USB headset. A USB desk microphone and > USB speakers would work equally well. > > 73, > > Dan N4XWE > > > > - Original Message > From: Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:19:38 AM > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers > > Hi Trevor, > > Thanks, Though I'm thinking desk or boom mike. I'll look into the > Shure. > > > vy 73 > Rob > > > > > _ ___ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Rob, I have used a Logitech 350USB headset successfully with the SDR-1000. The connection to PowerSDRis through VAC (Virtual Audio Cable). This setup works especially wellwith digital audio modes. The only downsides are the audio chain willnot include the PowerSDR equalizer control and the stock headphones canbe a little hard on the ears after an hour. The upsides are good audioreports, flexible, independant software routing of audio through eitherthe headset or speakers and a price of less than $50 at Office Max(Fabrique en Chine). I have actually seen refurbished ones for under$20 on amazon.com. BTW, It doesn't have to be a USB headset. A USB desk microphone and USB speakers would work equally well. 73, Dan N4XWE - Original Message From: Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:19:38 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers Hi Trevor, Thanks, Though I'm thinking desk or boom mike. I'll look into the Shure. vy 73 Rob Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Hi Trevor, Thanks, Though I'm thinking desk or boom mike. I'll look into the Shure. vy 73 Rob AB7CF On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:46 + (GMT Standard Time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor Smithers) writes: > >How do others feel about it for casual SSB? > > Well, if you're looking for a "communications" mic (as opposed to > wide band hifi) and don't mind a > hand/fist type how about the Shure 527b. The response curve of the > element appears to fall somewhere > between the Heil HC4 and HC5. > > 73 to all > Trevor G0KTN > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
>How do others feel about it for casual SSB? Well, if you're looking for a "communications" mic (as opposed to wide band hifi) and don't mind a hand/fist type how about the Shure 527b. The response curve of the element appears to fall somewhere between the Heil HC4 and HC5. 73 to all Trevor G0KTN ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Hi Rob. Heil push to talk switch assembly wired to an adapter cable to the 9 pin connector on the back of the SDR1000. I can also plug in the Heil footswitch. RS mike goes direct into the Edirol FA66. Carl Robert Dennison wrote: > Hey Carl, > > Thanks for the tip. As well as the initial input... > > How did you set up the PTT? > > vy 73 > Rob > AB7CF > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Hey Carl, Thanks for the tip. As well as the initial input... How did you set up the PTT? vy 73 Rob AB7CF On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:51:38 -0500 Carl Vangsness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: As an aside to using inexpensive mikes with the SDR-1000, I also made my own boom out of a swing arm lamp from Target and unused mike parts from a very poor desktop mike stand. I will never use a desktop stand again - conducted noise from everything that vibrates within a block of my house. 73, Carl Vangsness, WC0V Robert Dennison wrote: Hi Alan, The 33-3018 appears to be replaced by the 33-3038. If you could take a peek would be appreciated... vy 73 Rob AB7CF On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:06:32 -0400 Alan NV8A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On 03/16/08 04:17 pm Robert Dennison wrote: To perhaps draw this to a close... I searched the archives to find a reference to an inexpensive mic for flexRadios. Back on Nov 29, Carl Vangsness recommended the RS 33-3018 dynamic mic. How do others feel about it for casual SSB? I can't see that the 33-3018 is still available. I'm using a Shure PG58 I bought used from Chicago Surplus at a hamfest (they still had some at another hamfest I went to yesterday -- Saturday). I found that it's intended as a vocalist's mic for pop music, but people tell me it sounds fine. 73 Alan NV8A ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
As an aside to using inexpensive mikes with the SDR-1000, I also made my own boom out of a swing arm lamp from Target and unused mike parts from a very poor desktop mike stand. I will never use a desktop stand again - conducted noise from everything that vibrates within a block of my house. 73, Carl Vangsness, WC0V Robert Dennison wrote: >Hi Alan, > >The 33-3018 appears to be replaced by the 33-3038. > >If you could take a peek would be appreciated... > >vy 73 >Rob >AB7CF > > >On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:06:32 -0400 Alan NV8A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>On 03/16/08 04:17 pm Robert Dennison wrote: >> >> >> >>>To perhaps draw this to a close... >>> >>>I searched the archives to find a reference to an inexpensive mic >>> >>> >>for >> >> >>>flexRadios. Back on Nov 29, Carl Vangsness recommended the RS >>> >>> >>33-3018 >> >> >>>dynamic mic. How do others feel about it for casual SSB? >>> >>> >>I can't see that the 33-3018 is still available. I'm using a Shure >>PG58 >>I bought used from Chicago Surplus at a hamfest (they still had some >>at >>another hamfest I went to yesterday -- Saturday). I found that it's >> >>intended as a vocalist's mic for pop music, but people tell me it >>sounds >>fine. >> >>73 >> >>Alan NV8A >> >> >> >> >> > >___ >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Hi Alan, The 33-3018 appears to be replaced by the 33-3038. If you could take a peek would be appreciated... vy 73 Rob AB7CF On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:06:32 -0400 Alan NV8A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 03/16/08 04:17 pm Robert Dennison wrote: > > > To perhaps draw this to a close... > > > > I searched the archives to find a reference to an inexpensive mic > for > > flexRadios. Back on Nov 29, Carl Vangsness recommended the RS > 33-3018 > > dynamic mic. How do others feel about it for casual SSB? > > I can't see that the 33-3018 is still available. I'm using a Shure > PG58 > I bought used from Chicago Surplus at a hamfest (they still had some > at > another hamfest I went to yesterday -- Saturday). I found that it's > > intended as a vocalist's mic for pop music, but people tell me it > sounds > fine. > > 73 > > Alan NV8A > > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
On 03/16/08 04:17 pm Robert Dennison wrote: > To perhaps draw this to a close... > > I searched the archives to find a reference to an inexpensive mic for > flexRadios. Back on Nov 29, Carl Vangsness recommended the RS 33-3018 > dynamic mic. How do others feel about it for casual SSB? I can't see that the 33-3018 is still available. I'm using a Shure PG58 I bought used from Chicago Surplus at a hamfest (they still had some at another hamfest I went to yesterday -- Saturday). I found that it's intended as a vocalist's mic for pop music, but people tell me it sounds fine. 73 Alan NV8A ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Hi All, To perhaps draw this to a close... I searched the archives to find a reference to an inexpensive mic for flexRadios. Back on Nov 29, Carl Vangsness recommended the RS 33-3018 dynamic mic. How do others feel about it for casual SSB? vy 73's Rob AB7CF On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:05:04 -0700 Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quoting Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Sun 16 Mar 2008 08:41:07 > AM PDT: > > > 1. Given that the PowerSDR equalizer has a built in preamp and 10 > bands > > of equalization, why does it make a hoot what's used for a mic? > Just > > equalize and heat to taste... > > There's some mic specialists on this list who will no doubt cringe > at > my oversimplifications below, but, I'll leap in: > > There's more to mic differences than raw frequency response > (otherwise > recording studios wouldn't spend kilobucks on mics). Polar > sensitivity (i.e. the mic's "antenna pattern") can have a huge > effect > on the sound one gets, partly because it changes the ratio of direct > > and reflected sound. There's also mechanical effects (breath > noises, > pops, etc.). Not the least is sensitivity.. a mic that's only > sensitive from 500-1000Hz and is down 20 dB at 2kHz, isn't going to > be > equalizable, no matter how much gain you have. > > Indeed, a lot of this can be done with clever DSP. Of particular > interest these days are phased array schemes that use multiple small > > mics that adaptively track the source of the voice to create sort of > > the ultimate in noise cancelling mic, without needing a boom hanging > > off your head. (think astronauts or divers with their head inside a > > helmet, or, for a more conventional application, video > conferencing). > However, as we used to say when building motion control stuff, no > amount of closed loop control can make a wet noodle into a steel > bar. > > > jim, w6rmk > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Hi Jim, We haven't chatted for a bit, but sounds like you're having fun.. You make good points... to summarize: paying big bucks for raw frequency response should be low on the list compared to polar sensitivity and mechanical characteristics. To which I would add style of operation (eg. headset) were I to use it intensively. Am I close? vy 73 Rob AB7CF On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:05:04 -0700 Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quoting Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Sun 16 Mar 2008 08:41:07 > AM PDT: > > > 1. Given that the PowerSDR equalizer has a built in preamp and 10 > bands > > of equalization, why does it make a hoot what's used for a mic? > Just > > equalize and heat to taste... > > There's some mic specialists on this list who will no doubt cringe > at > my oversimplifications below, but, I'll leap in: > > There's more to mic differences than raw frequency response > (otherwise > recording studios wouldn't spend kilobucks on mics). Polar > sensitivity (i.e. the mic's "antenna pattern") can have a huge > effect > on the sound one gets, partly because it changes the ratio of direct > > and reflected sound. There's also mechanical effects (breath > noises, > pops, etc.). Not the least is sensitivity.. a mic that's only > sensitive from 500-1000Hz and is down 20 dB at 2kHz, isn't going to > be > equalizable, no matter how much gain you have. > > Indeed, a lot of this can be done with clever DSP. Of particular > interest these days are phased array schemes that use multiple small > > mics that adaptively track the source of the voice to create sort of > > the ultimate in noise cancelling mic, without needing a boom hanging > > off your head. (think astronauts or divers with their head inside a > > helmet, or, for a more conventional application, video > conferencing). > However, as we used to say when building motion control stuff, no > amount of closed loop control can make a wet noodle into a steel > bar. > > > jim, w6rmk > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Quoting Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Sun 16 Mar 2008 08:41:07 AM PDT: > 1. Given that the PowerSDR equalizer has a built in preamp and 10 bands > of equalization, why does it make a hoot what's used for a mic? Just > equalize and heat to taste... There's some mic specialists on this list who will no doubt cringe at my oversimplifications below, but, I'll leap in: There's more to mic differences than raw frequency response (otherwise recording studios wouldn't spend kilobucks on mics). Polar sensitivity (i.e. the mic's "antenna pattern") can have a huge effect on the sound one gets, partly because it changes the ratio of direct and reflected sound. There's also mechanical effects (breath noises, pops, etc.). Not the least is sensitivity.. a mic that's only sensitive from 500-1000Hz and is down 20 dB at 2kHz, isn't going to be equalizable, no matter how much gain you have. Indeed, a lot of this can be done with clever DSP. Of particular interest these days are phased array schemes that use multiple small mics that adaptively track the source of the voice to create sort of the ultimate in noise cancelling mic, without needing a boom hanging off your head. (think astronauts or divers with their head inside a helmet, or, for a more conventional application, video conferencing). However, as we used to say when building motion control stuff, no amount of closed loop control can make a wet noodle into a steel bar. jim, w6rmk ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Mics for flexers
Hi all, Have three questions about mics, but first let me say I'm a cw guy thru and thru. Grew up on Telegraph Rd. Claim it permanently warped me... (Absolutely true, Telephone Rd. ran parallel to Telegraph Rd a mile South.) Still I do like to have a mic for each rig. Just haven't bothered to buy for my 1K. So here are the questions: 1. Given that the PowerSDR equalizer has a built in preamp and 10 bands of equalization, why does it make a hoot what's used for a mic? Just equalize and heat to taste... 2. About a 6 months ago a Radio Shack mic was recommended. Can anyone remember the Model Number? 3. One of the neat things about the Panadapter is you can actually see the SSB waveforms. It astounds me at the number of SSB sigs out there with huge amounts of bass boost. Is there a reason? I seem to remember that most of the intelligence in a voice signal is in the high frequency fricatives? Thanks in advance for helping out CW guy! vy 73 Rob AB7CF ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
