Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
Hello All, Somehow I did not receive all your messages, but the last posting from Rick contained all the missing pieces. I thank everybody for your input. A lot of information to digest, and I will get back to some of you for further guidance. Sorry for all my questions, but if you don't ask, you get no answers 73, Peter, NH6VB > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:47:19 -0400 > From: rjl...@gmail.com > To: telli...@itsco.com > CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > You're right and makes sense to me. The fewer moving parts the better I > always say. > Rick > W2JAZ > > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Tim Ellison wrote: > > > And it does a good job of it too. I don’t think W6IHG is improving it > > anymore, but it really works well on my 910H, which I plan to retire after I > > get the V/U in service. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Tim > > > > > > > > *From:* kq...@verizon.net [mailto:kq...@verizon.net] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:34 PM > > > > *To:* Tim Ellison > > *Cc:* rjl...@gmail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > *Subject:* Re: RE: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > > > > > > > OK, so the Radio Tuner program completes what Nova was always lacking. > > Thanks for the clarification. > > Jim > > > > > > Aug 3, 2010 01:31:15 PM, telli...@itsco.com wrote: > > > > > > > >xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m=" > > http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"; > > >xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40";> > > > > > > > They > > >are two separate programs that accomplish the same thing. Except > > RadioTuner uses > > >Nova for Doppler control. > > > > -Tim > > > > *From:* kq...@verizon.net [mailto:kq...@verizon.net ] > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:09 PM > > > *To:* Tim Ellison > > > *Cc:* rjl...@gmail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > > *Subject:* Re: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > > > Tim, do you mean SatPC32 AND/OR Radio Tuner? > > > Since SatPC32 does Doppler correction and rotor pointing, I'd rather just > > use it > > >than have another application to worry about. > > > 73, Jim KQ6EA > > > > > > > > > Aug 3, 2010 11:28:51 AM, telli...@itsco.com wrote: > > > > >There has been some testing with SatPC32 and RadioTuner by > > >W6IHG with the V/U module. > > > > Both look like they will work fine. > > > > > > > > > > > >-Tim > > > > > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > > > >From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [ > > mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz ] > > On Behalf Of Richard Lawn > > > >Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:12 PM > > > >To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > > >Subject: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > > > > > > >I'd like to hear from anyone using the 5000A on the satellites. I'm > > > >interested in the software you are using, rotor control, and of course > > >any > > > >quirks or issues you've encountered. I'm thinking of clearing out my > > > >shack > > > >including the FT-847 and trying the 5000A with VHF/UHF module. > > > >TNX > > > >Rick > > > >W2JAZ > > > >___ > > > >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > > >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > > > > > > >target="_blank"><http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz> > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > > >Archives: > > > >target="_blank"><http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > > >Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > > > >___ > > > >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > > >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > > > > > > >target="_blank"><http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz> > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > > >Archives: > > > >target="_blank"><http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > > >Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
You're right and makes sense to me. The fewer moving parts the better I always say. Rick W2JAZ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Tim Ellison wrote: > And it does a good job of it too. I don’t think W6IHG is improving it > anymore, but it really works well on my 910H, which I plan to retire after I > get the V/U in service. > > > > > > -Tim > > > > *From:* kq...@verizon.net [mailto:kq...@verizon.net] > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:34 PM > > *To:* Tim Ellison > *Cc:* rjl...@gmail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz > *Subject:* Re: RE: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > > > OK, so the Radio Tuner program completes what Nova was always lacking. > Thanks for the clarification. > Jim > > > Aug 3, 2010 01:31:15 PM, telli...@itsco.com wrote: > > > > >xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m=" > http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"; > >xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40";> > > > > They > >are two separate programs that accomplish the same thing. Except > RadioTuner uses > >Nova for Doppler control. > > -Tim > > *From:* kq...@verizon.net [mailto:kq...@verizon.net ] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:09 PM > > *To:* Tim Ellison > > *Cc:* rjl...@gmail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > *Subject:* Re: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > Tim, do you mean SatPC32 AND/OR Radio Tuner? > > Since SatPC32 does Doppler correction and rotor pointing, I'd rather just > use it > >than have another application to worry about. > > 73, Jim KQ6EA > > > > > > Aug 3, 2010 11:28:51 AM, telli...@itsco.com wrote: > > >There has been some testing with SatPC32 and RadioTuner by > >W6IHG with the V/U module. > > > Both look like they will work fine. > > > > > > > > >-Tim > > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [ > mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz ] > On Behalf Of Richard Lawn > > >Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:12 PM > > >To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > >Subject: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > > > > >I'd like to hear from anyone using the 5000A on the satellites. I'm > > >interested in the software you are using, rotor control, and of course > >any > > >quirks or issues you've encountered. I'm thinking of clearing out my > > >shack > > >including the FT-847 and trying the 5000A with VHF/UHF module. > > >TNX > > >Rick > > >W2JAZ > > >___ > > >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > > > > >target="_blank"><http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz> > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > >Archives: > > >target="_blank"><http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/> > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > >Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > >___ > > >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > > > > >target="_blank"><http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz> > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > >Archives: > > >target="_blank"><http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/> > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > >Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Peter Scheller wrote: > > Tim, > > I was rather thinking of connecting the output of the (my) SCS modem > to the Flex and have the best of both worlds. Then do it. Tim provided you with the documentation to do it. It includes the cable wiring diagram for the Flex 3000 and 1500. The Flex 5000 has RCA connectors for audio line-in, audio line-out, and PTT so you would need to make a different cable. Still, it is a piece of cake. The serial port or USB port on your SCS PTC-IIex or PTC-IIpro just connects to the computer running PowerSDR. You install AirMail on the computer with PowerSDR and allow AirMail to control PowerSDR through a virtual comm port while controlling the PTC-IIex through the computer's USB or serial port. It really is quite simple. > Also in maritime mobile > application, it sure would enhance e-mail access, given the superior > attributes > of the Flex system. > Yes, AirMail over PACTOR-III is quite nice. I used to run it on my boat. It was nice having email access even when away from Internet access. Personally I preferred the SailMail service to Winlink because I could use encryption and transmit business correspondence but I used both. > Just thinking out loud. > Others have already done this. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.931.492.6776 (USA) (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
I did this with a Flex-3000 and PTC-IIe some months ago. The signals you need are on the Flexwire connector. It helps if you start with a cable from SCS with the DIN connector already attached since these are hard to solder. I found it quick and easy to do, and it worked exceedingly well. George, PJ5/KJ6VW On 8/4/2010 01:02, Peter Scheller wrote: > Tim, > > I was rather thinking of connecting the output of the (my) SCS modem > to the Flex and have the best of both worlds. Also in maritime mobile > application, it sure would enhance e-mail access, given the superior > attributes > of the Flex system. > > Just thinking out loud. > > 73, > Peter NH6VB > > > >> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 22:19:28 -0500 >> From: tim.n9...@gmail.com >> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz >> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users >> >> Peter et al, >> >> Winmor is not intended to be a Pactor III replacement. It is designed to >> have as high a data rate as possible given the legal limitations of HF >> while being very robust. It is also limited by being a sound card mode. >> >> Pactor III is a proprietary mode. The only way to legally use them >> whether you use external hardware or not is to license the technology >> from SCS. It is my understanding that to date no one has licenses P III >> from them. >> >> I have no idea what a Pactor III OEM license would cost but I imagine it >> would not be cheap. It would probably entail a great deal of expense for >> Flex to add a feature a small number of users would care about. >> >> 73, >> >> Tim McDonough, N9PUZ >> IL ARES Assistant SEC - Digital Operations >> Sangamon County, Springfield, IL >> >> On 8/3/2010 8:48 PM, Peter Scheller wrote: >> >> >>> As an added item, and that has nothing to do with satellite operation, I am >>> also >>> an AF MARS member, running a WL2K PACTOR III station. A PACTOR III modem >>> is external hardware, and cannot be duplicated by soundcard as tried >>> (Winmore). >>> >>> My question here is, if there is a way of incorporating an external SCS >>> modem >>> into a Flex radio system to have "Radio e-mail". If that would be possible, >>> that would >>> be wonderful and worth the purchase of a Flex 300 by itself. Food for >>> thought. >>> >> ___ >> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >> Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: >> http://www.flex-radio.com/ >> > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
Tim, I was rather thinking of connecting the output of the (my) SCS modem to the Flex and have the best of both worlds. Also in maritime mobile application, it sure would enhance e-mail access, given the superior attributes of the Flex system. Just thinking out loud. 73, Peter NH6VB > Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 22:19:28 -0500 > From: tim.n9...@gmail.com > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > Peter et al, > > Winmor is not intended to be a Pactor III replacement. It is designed to > have as high a data rate as possible given the legal limitations of HF > while being very robust. It is also limited by being a sound card mode. > > Pactor III is a proprietary mode. The only way to legally use them > whether you use external hardware or not is to license the technology > from SCS. It is my understanding that to date no one has licenses P III > from them. > > I have no idea what a Pactor III OEM license would cost but I imagine it > would not be cheap. It would probably entail a great deal of expense for > Flex to add a feature a small number of users would care about. > > 73, > > Tim McDonough, N9PUZ > IL ARES Assistant SEC - Digital Operations > Sangamon County, Springfield, IL > > On 8/3/2010 8:48 PM, Peter Scheller wrote: > > > As an added item, and that has nothing to do with satellite operation, I am > > also > > an AF MARS member, running a WL2K PACTOR III station. A PACTOR III modem > > is external hardware, and cannot be duplicated by soundcard as tried > > (Winmore). > > > > My question here is, if there is a way of incorporating an external SCS > > modem > > into a Flex radio system to have "Radio e-mail". If that would be possible, > > that would > > be wonderful and worth the purchase of a Flex 300 by itself. Food for > > thought. > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
Peter et al, Winmor is not intended to be a Pactor III replacement. It is designed to have as high a data rate as possible given the legal limitations of HF while being very robust. It is also limited by being a sound card mode. Pactor III is a proprietary mode. The only way to legally use them whether you use external hardware or not is to license the technology from SCS. It is my understanding that to date no one has licenses P III from them. I have no idea what a Pactor III OEM license would cost but I imagine it would not be cheap. It would probably entail a great deal of expense for Flex to add a feature a small number of users would care about. 73, Tim McDonough, N9PUZ IL ARES Assistant SEC - Digital Operations Sangamon County, Springfield, IL On 8/3/2010 8:48 PM, Peter Scheller wrote: As an added item, and that has nothing to do with satellite operation, I am also an AF MARS member, running a WL2K PACTOR III station. A PACTOR III modem is external hardware, and cannot be duplicated by soundcard as tried (Winmore). My question here is, if there is a way of incorporating an external SCS modem into a Flex radio system to have "Radio e-mail". If that would be possible, that would be wonderful and worth the purchase of a Flex 300 by itself. Food for thought. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Peter Scheller wrote: > Well here, it is not my intention ti incite WW III. > > So just for basics, Flex Radio is admit tingly a superior radio. No doubt. > Price, depends on options. With all bells, accessories and whistles a price > tag > of $7000.00+ is foreseeable. > > Icom only proprietary system, not likely. My pre amps are SSB, the best > available. > So why run separate power cables, if there is no need for them? > As Tim suggested, bias-'T's are available. > > My complaint about the shortcomings of a Flex radio are strictly the > requirements for > external power cables to antenna mounted pre amps for satellite operation. > Nothing else. > Easily fixed with an external power injector in the coax. Given the different power requirements for mast-mounted devices I don't think I would want my radio to try to provide that. But again, that is a matter of personal preference. > As an added item, and that has nothing to do with satellite operation, I am > also > an AF MARS member, running a WL2K PACTOR III station. A PACTOR III modem > is external hardware, and cannot be duplicated by soundcard as tried > (Winmore). > Well, it COULD be duplicated by PC software running through a soundcard. The processing power in the SCS PTC-whatever is nowhere near the processing power available in a PC. But PACTOR-III is a proprietary protocol owned by SCS and no one else is allowed to implement it so it makes the point moot. I do think that Winmor is an interesting attempt to build a software-only modem to provide an alternative to the SCS hardware. It appears to perform pretty well too. Perhaps there will be a Winmor-II that approaches the performance of PACTOR-III. Certainly Winmor outperforms PACTOR-I and comes reasonably close to PACTOR-II. > > My question here is, if there is a way of incorporating an external SCS > modem > into a Flex radio system to have "Radio e-mail". If that would be possible, > that would > be wonderful and worth the purchase of a Flex 300 by itself. Food for > thought. > You should look through the Knowledge Base. There is an application-note in there about interfacing the SCS PTC-x devices to the Flex 5000. It is actually quite easy. From a purist point of view, I don't like the idea that I have to turn the digital signal in the radio back into analog in order to drive my SCS PTC-IIpro. I would prefer that the signal remain in the digital domain as it does for all the "soundcard" modes. But the bottom line is how it works. > In summary, it is not, and was not my intend to "knock" Flex radios, but > point out > the shortcomings for my intended use. > Well, one man's shortcomings are another man's flexibility. FWIW, I really like my Flex radios. As I said, I haven't found a better receiver out there. Like any other choice, you have to weigh each feature in terms of its importance and then decide what best fits your needs. For me everything revolves around the quality of the receiver and the ability to keep the signal in the digital domain once it has been been converted in the radio hardware. That pretty much puts Flex at the top of the list of amateur radio transceivers as far as I am concerned. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.931.492.6776 (USA) (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
Peter, In regards to your Pactor question, the answer is in the Knowledge Base. http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50422.aspx -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Peter Scheller Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:48 PM To: brian-wb6...@lloyd.com Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users Well here, it is not my intention ti incite WW III. So just for basics, Flex Radio is admit tingly a superior radio. No doubt. Price, depends on options. With all bells, accessories and whistles a price tag of $7000.00+ is foreseeable. Icom only proprietary system, not likely. My pre amps are SSB, the best available. So why run separate power cables, if there is no need for them? My complaint about the shortcomings of a Flex radio are strictly the requirements for external power cables to antenna mounted pre amps for satellite operation. Nothing else. As an added item, and that has nothing to do with satellite operation, I am also an AF MARS member, running a WL2K PACTOR III station. A PACTOR III modem is external hardware, and cannot be duplicated by soundcard as tried (Winmore). My question here is, if there is a way of incorporating an external SCS modem into a Flex radio system to have "Radio e-mail". If that would be possible, that would be wonderful and worth the purchase of a Flex 300 by itself. Food for thought. In summary, it is not, and was not my intend to "knock" Flex radios, but point out the shortcomings for my intended use. 73, Peter, NH6VB Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 20:07:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users From: brian-wb6...@lloyd.com To: nh...@msn.com CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Peter Scheller wrote: Brian, On my current satellite radio (IC-910) there is no need to run separate power cables to the antenna mounted pre amps. They are switched in and out by software. But the software has to do something to communicate with the preamps and possibly power amps up there. Also, if you place a tower mounted power amp up there you aren't going to be able to power it effectively through the coax. Separate power cables to the pre amps, and manual switching are, at least to me, NOT ACCEPTABLE. Particular on a (very good) $7000.00+ radio. Would you like to put a model "T" type engine hand crank on a corvette? Well, I certainly wouldn't consider this manual switching. You hit the PTT on your mic and a lot of very nice, automatic sequencing happens. That is uses separate wires may seem archaic to you but to me it spells a LOT of flexibility to accomplish any sort of power and sequencing I might have in mind. It also allows me to integrate products from different vendors to achieve maximum performance and flexibility. Perhaps I am wrong but it sounds like what you are using with your IC-9100 is a closed, proprietary system from Icom. Now I am not knocking Icom but I would bet that their control system does not allow you to easily integrate products from other vendors. I am also willing to bet that the Icom preamps are not the best available. I am sure they are good, but probably not the best. I tend to be oriented to performance and am willing to do some integration in order to achieve it. You seem to be oriented toward convenience and are willing to accept some performance compromises to achieve that. I fully understand. Life is about choices. The satellite systems I am most familiar with are VSATs pushing data through various geostationary satellites. I expect to have to run separate power and control to things like dish-mounted 200W C-band and Ku-band transmitting converters and LNBs. It is just the nature of the beast and it has perhaps set my expectations differently from yours. But I understand where you are coming from. It is nice to run the coax up the tower, attach the preamp, and have everything be automatic from the get-go. I don't think you are going to get that from Flex as Flex doesn't make matching mast-mounted preamps. I saw that Tim suggested that you run power up the coax using a bias-injection 'T' which should work for powering and switching the preamps. It probably wouldn't take much, just a relay, to control that from the Flex to switch off the power to the preamp and put the preamp into bypass before TX PTT is asserted in the radio. It would be very close to what you have working with the Icom preamps but it would require a bit of work on your part. You just have to decide whether or not it is worth it. Me? I like the Flex radios. They have the best receivers I have used. Period. To me it would be worth an hour or two with a soldering iron and some hand-tools. I think their built-in sequencer is quite nice and quite advanced. Usually you have to buy an outboard box to get that. To me
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
Well here, it is not my intention ti incite WW III. So just for basics, Flex Radio is admit tingly a superior radio. No doubt. Price, depends on options. With all bells, accessories and whistles a price tag of $7000.00+ is foreseeable. Icom only proprietary system, not likely. My pre amps are SSB, the best available. So why run separate power cables, if there is no need for them? My complaint about the shortcomings of a Flex radio are strictly the requirements for external power cables to antenna mounted pre amps for satellite operation. Nothing else. As an added item, and that has nothing to do with satellite operation, I am also an AF MARS member, running a WL2K PACTOR III station. A PACTOR III modem is external hardware, and cannot be duplicated by soundcard as tried (Winmore). My question here is, if there is a way of incorporating an external SCS modem into a Flex radio system to have "Radio e-mail". If that would be possible, that would be wonderful and worth the purchase of a Flex 300 by itself. Food for thought. In summary, it is not, and was not my intend to "knock" Flex radios, but point out the shortcomings for my intended use. 73, Peter, NH6VB Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 20:07:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users From: brian-wb6...@lloyd.com To: nh...@msn.com CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Peter Scheller wrote: Brian, On my current satellite radio (IC-910) there is no need to run separate power cables to the antenna mounted pre amps. They are switched in and out by software. But the software has to do something to communicate with the preamps and possibly power amps up there. Also, if you place a tower mounted power amp up there you aren't going to be able to power it effectively through the coax. Separate power cables to the pre amps, and manual switching are, at least to me, NOT ACCEPTABLE. Particular on a (very good) $7000.00+ radio. Would you like to put a model "T" type engine hand crank on a corvette? Well, I certainly wouldn't consider this manual switching. You hit the PTT on your mic and a lot of very nice, automatic sequencing happens. That is uses separate wires may seem archaic to you but to me it spells a LOT of flexibility to accomplish any sort of power and sequencing I might have in mind. It also allows me to integrate products from different vendors to achieve maximum performance and flexibility. Perhaps I am wrong but it sounds like what you are using with your IC-9100 is a closed, proprietary system from Icom. Now I am not knocking Icom but I would bet that their control system does not allow you to easily integrate products from other vendors. I am also willing to bet that the Icom preamps are not the best available. I am sure they are good, but probably not the best. I tend to be oriented to performance and am willing to do some integration in order to achieve it. You seem to be oriented toward convenience and are willing to accept some performance compromises to achieve that. I fully understand. Life is about choices. The satellite systems I am most familiar with are VSATs pushing data through various geostationary satellites. I expect to have to run separate power and control to things like dish-mounted 200W C-band and Ku-band transmitting converters and LNBs. It is just the nature of the beast and it has perhaps set my expectations differently from yours. But I understand where you are coming from. It is nice to run the coax up the tower, attach the preamp, and have everything be automatic from the get-go. I don't think you are going to get that from Flex as Flex doesn't make matching mast-mounted preamps. I saw that Tim suggested that you run power up the coax using a bias-injection 'T' which should work for powering and switching the preamps. It probably wouldn't take much, just a relay, to control that from the Flex to switch off the power to the preamp and put the preamp into bypass before TX PTT is asserted in the radio. It would be very close to what you have working with the Icom preamps but it would require a bit of work on your part. You just have to decide whether or not it is worth it. Me? I like the Flex radios. They have the best receivers I have used. Period. To me it would be worth an hour or two with a soldering iron and some hand-tools. I think their built-in sequencer is quite nice and quite advanced. Usually you have to buy an outboard box to get that. To me that *is* the "Corvette" approach. And besides, even a brand new Corvette needs new springs, shocks, wheels, tires, anti-sway bars, bushings (I prefer Delrin myself), seat, and roll-bar before it is *REALLY* ready to drive. It is all a matter of perspective. ;-) (I drive a tricked-out Miata on the track myself but the 'vette is a close second for best-raw-material-for-a-track-car. And I
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Peter Scheller wrote: > Brian, > > On my current satellite radio (IC-910) there is no need to run separate > power > cables to the antenna mounted pre amps. They are switched in and out by > software. > But the software has to do something to communicate with the preamps and possibly power amps up there. Also, if you place a tower mounted power amp up there you aren't going to be able to power it effectively through the coax. > Separate power cables to the pre amps, and manual switching are, at least > to me, > NOT ACCEPTABLE. Particular on a (very good) $7000.00+ radio. Would you like > to > put a model "T" type engine hand crank on a corvette? > Well, I certainly wouldn't consider this manual switching. You hit the PTT on your mic and a lot of very nice, automatic sequencing happens. That is uses separate wires may seem archaic to you but to me it spells a LOT of flexibility to accomplish any sort of power and sequencing I might have in mind. It also allows me to integrate products from different vendors to achieve maximum performance and flexibility. Perhaps I am wrong but it sounds like what you are using with your IC-9100 is a closed, proprietary system from Icom. Now I am not knocking Icom but I would bet that their control system does not allow you to easily integrate products from other vendors. I am also willing to bet that the Icom preamps are not the best available. I am sure they are good, but probably not the best. I tend to be oriented to performance and am willing to do some integration in order to achieve it. You seem to be oriented toward convenience and are willing to accept some performance compromises to achieve that. I fully understand. Life is about choices. The satellite systems I am most familiar with are VSATs pushing data through various geostationary satellites. I expect to have to run separate power and control to things like dish-mounted 200W C-band and Ku-band transmitting converters and LNBs. It is just the nature of the beast and it has perhaps set my expectations differently from yours. But I understand where you are coming from. It is nice to run the coax up the tower, attach the preamp, and have everything be automatic from the get-go. I don't think you are going to get that from Flex as Flex doesn't make matching mast-mounted preamps. I saw that Tim suggested that you run power up the coax using a bias-injection 'T' which should work for powering and switching the preamps. It probably wouldn't take much, just a relay, to control that from the Flex to switch off the power to the preamp and put the preamp into bypass before TX PTT is asserted in the radio. It would be very close to what you have working with the Icom preamps but it would require a bit of work on your part. You just have to decide whether or not it is worth it. Me? I like the Flex radios. They have the best receivers I have used. Period. To me it would be worth an hour or two with a soldering iron and some hand-tools. I think their built-in sequencer is quite nice and quite advanced. Usually you have to buy an outboard box to get that. To me that *is* the "Corvette" approach. And besides, even a brand new Corvette needs new springs, shocks, wheels, tires, anti-sway bars, bushings (I prefer Delrin myself), seat, and roll-bar before it is *REALLY* ready to drive. It is all a matter of perspective. ;-) (I drive a tricked-out Miata on the track myself but the 'vette is a close second for best-raw-material-for-a-track-car. And I am coveting an LS-6 powerplant for my Miata.) YMMV. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.931.492.6776 (USA) (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
Brian, On my current satellite radio (IC-910) there is no need to run separate power cables to the antenna mounted pre amps. They are switched in and out by software. Separate power cables to the pre amps, and manual switching are, at least to me, NOT ACCEPTABLE. Particular on a (very good) $7000.00+ radio. Would you like to put a model "T" type engine hand crank on a corvette? 73, Peter NH6VB Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 18:36:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users From: brian-wb6...@lloyd.com To: nh...@msn.com CC: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz From: Peter Scheller [mailto:nh...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:29 PM To: Tim Ellison Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Satellite Users The problem I see with the Flex as a satellite user is, that you cannot (at least yet) supply the 12VDC needed for switching in and out antenna mounted pre-amps. This is a serious deficiency that keeps me from becoming a proud Flex owner. Just my 2c worth. Peter, NH6VB AMSAT #30992 Deficiency? Huh. One of the nice things about the F5K is that it has a PTT sequencer built-in. There are three PTT outputs and PSDR allows you to set the delay between them. Since someone doing serious microwave work would probably want to sequence the RX amp, the TX amp, and then the transverter, I can't see how you could escape running separate PTT wiring up the tower so running separate power wiring up also seems reasonable. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.931.492.6776 (USA) (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
> > From: Peter Scheller [mailto:nh...@msn.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:29 PM > To: Tim Ellison > Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > The problem I see with the Flex as a satellite user is, > that you cannot (at least yet) supply the 12VDC needed > for switching in and out antenna mounted pre-amps. > This is a serious deficiency that keeps me from becoming > a proud Flex owner. Just my 2c worth. > Peter, NH6VB AMSAT #30992 > Deficiency? Huh. One of the nice things about the F5K is that it has a PTT sequencer built-in. There are three PTT outputs and PSDR allows you to set the delay between them. Since someone doing serious microwave work would probably want to sequence the RX amp, the TX amp, and then the transverter, I can't see how you could escape running separate PTT wiring up the tower so running separate power wiring up also seems reasonable. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.931.492.6776 (USA) (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
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And it does a good job of it too. I don’t think W6IHG is improving it anymore, but it really works well on my 910H, which I plan to retire after I get the V/U in service. -Tim From: kq...@verizon.net [mailto:kq...@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:34 PM To: Tim Ellison Cc: rjl...@gmail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: RE: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users OK, so the Radio Tuner program completes what Nova was always lacking. Thanks for the clarification. Jim Aug 3, 2010 01:31:15 PM, telli...@itsco.com<mailto:telli...@itsco.com> wrote: > >xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" >xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"; >xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40";> > They >are two separate programs that accomplish the same thing. Except RadioTuner >uses >Nova for Doppler control. -Tim From: kq...@verizon.net<mailto:kq...@verizon.net> [mailto:kq...@verizon.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:09 PM > To: Tim Ellison > Cc: rjl...@gmail.com<mailto:rjl...@gmail.com>; > flexradio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz> > Subject: Re: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users Tim, do you mean SatPC32 AND/OR Radio Tuner? > Since SatPC32 does Doppler correction and rotor pointing, I'd rather just use > it >than have another application to worry about. > 73, Jim KQ6EA > > > Aug 3, 2010 11:28:51 AM, telli...@itsco.com<mailto:telli...@itsco.com> wrote: >There has been some testing with SatPC32 and RadioTuner by >W6IHG with the V/U module. > > Both look like they will work fine. > > > > > >-Tim > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: > >flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz<mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz> > >[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Richard Lawn > >Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:12 PM > >To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz> > >Subject: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > > >I'd like to hear from anyone using the 5000A on the satellites. I'm > >interested in the software you are using, rotor control, and of course >any > >quirks or issues you've encountered. I'm thinking of clearing out my > >shack > >including the FT-847 and trying the 5000A with VHF/UHF module. > >TNX > >Rick > >W2JAZ > >___ > >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz> > > > >target="_blank"><http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz>http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > >Archives: > >target="_blank"><http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/>http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > >Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > >http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > >___ > >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz> > > > >target="_blank"><http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz>http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > >Archives: > >target="_blank"><http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/>http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > >Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > >http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
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That is a good point. The SSBs I use are in VOX mode right now since I don’t have an amp to drive high power which would require RX/TX switching and dedicated DC power, so the power is on all the time. Fortunately I have not had any problems. Keeping the fingers crossed. -Tim From: kq...@verizon.net [mailto:kq...@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:36 PM To: Tim Ellison Cc: nh...@msn.com; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users My "two cents" worth is to always run separate power to my preamps. I got tired of replacing the switching transistor inside my FT-847 after the few times the center conductor of the coax accidentally got shorted to ground. Jim Aug 3, 2010 01:32:09 PM, telli...@itsco.com<mailto:telli...@itsco.com> wrote: >Really? I just use bias "T"s. It works just fine with my mast mounted >SSB preamps. > > >-Tim > >From: Peter Scheller [mailto:nh...@msn.com] >Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:29 PM >To: Tim Ellison >Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > >The problem I see with the Flex as a satellite user is, >that you cannot (at least yet) supply the 12VDC needed >for switching in and out antenna mounted pre-amps. >This is a serious deficiency that keeps me from becoming >a proud Flex owner. Just my 2c worth. >Peter, NH6VB AMSAT #30992 > >> From: telli...@itsco.com<mailto:telli...@itsco.com> >> To: rjl...@gmail.com<mailto:rjl...@gmail.com>; >> flexradio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz> >> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:28:33 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users >> >> There has been some testing with SatPC32 and RadioTuner by W6IHG with the >V/U module. Both look like they will work fine. >> >> >> -Tim >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: >> flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz<mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz> >> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Richard Lawn >> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:12 PM >> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz> >> Subject: [Flexradio] Satellite Users >> >> I'd like to hear from anyone using the 5000A on the satellites. I'm >> interested in the software you are using, rotor control, and of course >any >> quirks or issues you've encountered. I'm thinking of clearing out >my shack >> including the FT-847 and trying the 5000A with VHF/UHF module. >> TNX >> Rick >> W2JAZ >> ___ >> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz> >> >target="_blank"><http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz>http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >> Archives: >target="_blank"><http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/>http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >> Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: >> http://www.flex-radio.com/ >> >> ___ >> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz> >> >target="_blank"><http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz>http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >> Archives: >target="_blank"><http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/>http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >> Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: >> http://www.flex-radio.com/ >___ >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz> > >target="_blank"><http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz>http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >Archives: >target="_blank"><http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/>http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
Really? I just use bias "T"s. It works just fine with my mast mounted SSB preamps. -Tim From: Peter Scheller [mailto:nh...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:29 PM To: Tim Ellison Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Satellite Users The problem I see with the Flex as a satellite user is, that you cannot (at least yet) supply the 12VDC needed for switching in and out antenna mounted pre-amps. This is a serious deficiency that keeps me from becoming a proud Flex owner. Just my 2c worth. Peter, NH6VB AMSAT #30992 > From: telli...@itsco.com > To: rjl...@gmail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:28:33 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > There has been some testing with SatPC32 and RadioTuner by W6IHG with the V/U > module. Both look like they will work fine. > > > -Tim > > > -Original Message- > From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz > [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Richard Lawn > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:12 PM > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > > I'd like to hear from anyone using the 5000A on the satellites. I'm > interested in the software you are using, rotor control, and of course any > quirks or issues you've encountered. I'm thinking of clearing out my shack > including the FT-847 and trying the 5000A with VHF/UHF module. > TNX > Rick > W2JAZ > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
They are two separate programs that accomplish the same thing. Except RadioTuner uses Nova for Doppler control. -Tim From: kq...@verizon.net [mailto:kq...@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:09 PM To: Tim Ellison Cc: rjl...@gmail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users Tim, do you mean SatPC32 AND/OR Radio Tuner? Since SatPC32 does Doppler correction and rotor pointing, I'd rather just use it than have another application to worry about. 73, Jim KQ6EA Aug 3, 2010 11:28:51 AM, telli...@itsco.com<mailto:telli...@itsco.com> wrote: >There has been some testing with SatPC32 and RadioTuner by W6IHG with the V/U >module. > Both look like they will work fine. > > >-Tim > > >-Original Message- >From: >flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz<mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz> >[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Richard Lawn >Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:12 PM >To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz> >Subject: [Flexradio] Satellite Users > >I'd like to hear from anyone using the 5000A on the satellites. I'm >interested in the software you are using, rotor control, and of course any >quirks or issues you've encountered. I'm thinking of clearing out my >shack >including the FT-847 and trying the 5000A with VHF/UHF module. >TNX >Rick >W2JAZ >___ >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz> > >target="_blank"><http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz>http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >Archives: >target="_blank"><http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/>http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > >___ >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz> > >target="_blank"><http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz>http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >Archives: >target="_blank"><http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/>http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Satellite Users
There has been some testing with SatPC32 and RadioTuner by W6IHG with the V/U module. Both look like they will work fine. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Richard Lawn Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:12 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Satellite Users I'd like to hear from anyone using the 5000A on the satellites. I'm interested in the software you are using, rotor control, and of course any quirks or issues you've encountered. I'm thinking of clearing out my shack including the FT-847 and trying the 5000A with VHF/UHF module. TNX Rick W2JAZ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Satellite Users
I'd like to hear from anyone using the 5000A on the satellites. I'm interested in the software you are using, rotor control, and of course any quirks or issues you've encountered. I'm thinking of clearing out my shack including the FT-847 and trying the 5000A with VHF/UHF module. TNX Rick W2JAZ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
