[Flexradio] VAC 4.10
I've recently bought a Flex-1500, initially to give SDR QSO-ing a try and now I'm hooked. Almost all my QSOs are digital, so I realise I'll need VAC. I've tried 4.09 and it works reasonably well, except for some latency issues (audio card or PowerSDR settings?). The audio outputs to MixW appear to be band dependent and I have to adjust the RX gain in PowerSDR to compensate, which is a bit of a drag. Is this normal? I plan to buy VAC 4.09 but I see from the purchasing page I only appear to be able to buy 4.10, not 4.09. Maybe I'm missing something, or do I then ask for 4.09, having bought 4.10? Also, is the licence for a single installation or is it licensed to me so that I can use it, for instance, when I use a laptop for static mobile operations? Thanks in advance Bob Towers MM0RKT ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
See my comments below -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bob Towers Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:53 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 I've recently bought a Flex-1500, initially to give SDR QSO-ing a try and now I'm hooked. Almost all my QSOs are digital, so I realize I'll need VAC. [Tim] You don't really need it, but it makes no sense to transfer audio to and from PowerSDR and the digital mode program using a physical sound card. I've tried 4.09 and it works reasonably well, except for some latency issues (audio card or PowerSDR settings?). [Tim] There is always a latency process with audio transfer. All components contribute to the overall latency. The audio outputs to MixW appear to be band dependent [Tim] Really? I just set the IO channels to VAC and they do not change UNLESS you initialize a new sound card (physical or virtual) in Windows that changes the audio device ID number. ... and I have to adjust the RX gain in PowerSDR to compensate, which is a bit of a drag. Is this normal? [Tim] All bands will have different output gain characteristics due to band conditions. Higher bands generally are less noisy than lower frequency bands. There is no output gain normalization process in PowerSDR; the signal characteristics you are receiving is the actual signal. So yes, this is normal, per se. I plan to buy VAC 4.09 but I see from the purchasing page I only appear to be able to buy 4.10, not 4.09. [Tim] Yes, that is correct. Maybe I'm missing something, or do I then ask for 4.09, having bought 4.10? [Tim] That is the correct process. Once you have purchased 4.10 you can request 4.09 from VAC support (Eugene) and he will instruct you on how to get it. Make sure you ask for the digitally signed version if you are using 64-bit Vista or Win7 Also, is the license for a single installation or is it licensed to me so that I can use it, for instance, when I use a laptop for static mobile operations? [Tim] I don't want to make any statements regarding other developers license agreements. If you have the 4.10 demo version installed, you have a copy of the software license. Look in the Help file for the section on Distribution Policy. Thanks in advance Bob Towers MM0RKT ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
All, Go to the link provided when purchasing 410 and substitute 409 and voila. Keith On 5/3/11 9:14 AM, Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com wrote: See my comments below -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bob Towers Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:53 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 I've recently bought a Flex-1500, initially to give SDR QSO-ing a try and now I'm hooked. Almost all my QSOs are digital, so I realize I'll need VAC. [Tim] You don't really need it, but it makes no sense to transfer audio to and from PowerSDR and the digital mode program using a physical sound card. I've tried 4.09 and it works reasonably well, except for some latency issues (audio card or PowerSDR settings?). [Tim] There is always a latency process with audio transfer. All components contribute to the overall latency. The audio outputs to MixW appear to be band dependent [Tim] Really? I just set the IO channels to VAC and they do not change UNLESS you initialize a new sound card (physical or virtual) in Windows that changes the audio device ID number. ... and I have to adjust the RX gain in PowerSDR to compensate, which is a bit of a drag. Is this normal? [Tim] All bands will have different output gain characteristics due to band conditions. Higher bands generally are less noisy than lower frequency bands. There is no output gain normalization process in PowerSDR; the signal characteristics you are receiving is the actual signal. So yes, this is normal, per se. I plan to buy VAC 4.09 but I see from the purchasing page I only appear to be able to buy 4.10, not 4.09. [Tim] Yes, that is correct. Maybe I'm missing something, or do I then ask for 4.09, having bought 4.10? [Tim] That is the correct process. Once you have purchased 4.10 you can request 4.09 from VAC support (Eugene) and he will instruct you on how to get it. Make sure you ask for the digitally signed version if you are using 64-bit Vista or Win7 Also, is the license for a single installation or is it licensed to me so that I can use it, for instance, when I use a laptop for static mobile operations? [Tim] I don't want to make any statements regarding other developers license agreements. If you have the 4.10 demo version installed, you have a copy of the software license. Look in the Help file for the section on Distribution Policy. Thanks in advance Bob Towers MM0RKT ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- Keith Goobie ke...@goobie.org Richmond Hill, Ontario ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Does he have a 64 Bit signed version of 4.09? The copy I have is not signed. Mike VA3MW On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Keith Goobie ke...@goobie.org wrote: All, Go to the link provided when purchasing 410 and substitute 409 and voila. Keith On 5/3/11 9:14 AM, Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com wrote: See my comments below -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bob Towers Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:53 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 I've recently bought a Flex-1500, initially to give SDR QSO-ing a try and now I'm hooked. Almost all my QSOs are digital, so I realize I'll need VAC. [Tim] You don't really need it, but it makes no sense to transfer audio to and from PowerSDR and the digital mode program using a physical sound card. I've tried 4.09 and it works reasonably well, except for some latency issues (audio card or PowerSDR settings?). [Tim] There is always a latency process with audio transfer. All components contribute to the overall latency. The audio outputs to MixW appear to be band dependent [Tim] Really? I just set the IO channels to VAC and they do not change UNLESS you initialize a new sound card (physical or virtual) in Windows that changes the audio device ID number. ... and I have to adjust the RX gain in PowerSDR to compensate, which is a bit of a drag. Is this normal? [Tim] All bands will have different output gain characteristics due to band conditions. Higher bands generally are less noisy than lower frequency bands. There is no output gain normalization process in PowerSDR; the signal characteristics you are receiving is the actual signal. So yes, this is normal, per se. I plan to buy VAC 4.09 but I see from the purchasing page I only appear to be able to buy 4.10, not 4.09. [Tim] Yes, that is correct. Maybe I'm missing something, or do I then ask for 4.09, having bought 4.10? [Tim] That is the correct process. Once you have purchased 4.10 you can request 4.09 from VAC support (Eugene) and he will instruct you on how to get it. Make sure you ask for the digitally signed version if you are using 64-bit Vista or Win7 Also, is the license for a single installation or is it licensed to me so that I can use it, for instance, when I use a laptop for static mobile operations? [Tim] I don't want to make any statements regarding other developers license agreements. If you have the 4.10 demo version installed, you have a copy of the software license. Look in the Help file for the section on Distribution Policy. Thanks in advance Bob Towers MM0RKT ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- Keith Goobie ke...@goobie.org Richmond Hill, Ontario ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Yes Dave W0DHB -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Michael Walker Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:29 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Does he have a 64 Bit signed version of 4.09? The copy I have is not signed. Mike VA3MW On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Keith Goobie ke...@goobie.org wrote: All, Go to the link provided when purchasing 410 and substitute 409 and voila. Keith On 5/3/11 9:14 AM, Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com wrote: See my comments below -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bob Towers Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:53 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 I've recently bought a Flex-1500, initially to give SDR QSO-ing a try and now I'm hooked. Almost all my QSOs are digital, so I realize I'll need VAC. [Tim] You don't really need it, but it makes no sense to transfer audio to and from PowerSDR and the digital mode program using a physical sound card. I've tried 4.09 and it works reasonably well, except for some latency issues (audio card or PowerSDR settings?). [Tim] There is always a latency process with audio transfer. All components contribute to the overall latency. The audio outputs to MixW appear to be band dependent [Tim] Really? I just set the IO channels to VAC and they do not change UNLESS you initialize a new sound card (physical or virtual) in Windows that changes the audio device ID number. ... and I have to adjust the RX gain in PowerSDR to compensate, which is a bit of a drag. Is this normal? [Tim] All bands will have different output gain characteristics due to band conditions. Higher bands generally are less noisy than lower frequency bands. There is no output gain normalization process in PowerSDR; the signal characteristics you are receiving is the actual signal. So yes, this is normal, per se. I plan to buy VAC 4.09 but I see from the purchasing page I only appear to be able to buy 4.10, not 4.09. [Tim] Yes, that is correct. Maybe I'm missing something, or do I then ask for 4.09, having bought 4.10? [Tim] That is the correct process. Once you have purchased 4.10 you can request 4.09 from VAC support (Eugene) and he will instruct you on how to get it. Make sure you ask for the digitally signed version if you are using 64-bit Vista or Win7 Also, is the license for a single installation or is it licensed to me so that I can use it, for instance, when I use a laptop for static mobile operations? [Tim] I don't want to make any statements regarding other developers license agreements. If you have the 4.10 demo version installed, you have a copy of the software license. Look in the Help file for the section on Distribution Policy. Thanks in advance Bob Towers MM0RKT ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- Keith Goobie ke...@goobie.org Richmond Hill, Ontario ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
But you have to do EXACTLY what was suggested. You buy 4.10. You ask Eugene to give you the link TO THE SIGNED VERSION OF 4.09 Bob N4HY On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Dave Beumer WØDHB d...@w0dhb.net wrote: Yes Dave W0DHB -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Michael Walker Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:29 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Does he have a 64 Bit signed version of 4.09? The copy I have is not signed. Mike VA3MW On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Keith Goobie ke...@goobie.org wrote: All, Go to the link provided when purchasing 410 and substitute 409 and voila. Keith On 5/3/11 9:14 AM, Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com wrote: See my comments below -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bob Towers Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:53 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 I've recently bought a Flex-1500, initially to give SDR QSO-ing a try and now I'm hooked. Almost all my QSOs are digital, so I realize I'll need VAC. [Tim] You don't really need it, but it makes no sense to transfer audio to and from PowerSDR and the digital mode program using a physical sound card. I've tried 4.09 and it works reasonably well, except for some latency issues (audio card or PowerSDR settings?). [Tim] There is always a latency process with audio transfer. All components contribute to the overall latency. The audio outputs to MixW appear to be band dependent [Tim] Really? I just set the IO channels to VAC and they do not change UNLESS you initialize a new sound card (physical or virtual) in Windows that changes the audio device ID number. ... and I have to adjust the RX gain in PowerSDR to compensate, which is a bit of a drag. Is this normal? [Tim] All bands will have different output gain characteristics due to band conditions. Higher bands generally are less noisy than lower frequency bands. There is no output gain normalization process in PowerSDR; the signal characteristics you are receiving is the actual signal. So yes, this is normal, per se. I plan to buy VAC 4.09 but I see from the purchasing page I only appear to be able to buy 4.10, not 4.09. [Tim] Yes, that is correct. Maybe I'm missing something, or do I then ask for 4.09, having bought 4.10? [Tim] That is the correct process. Once you have purchased 4.10 you can request 4.09 from VAC support (Eugene) and he will instruct you on how to get it. Make sure you ask for the digitally signed version if you are using 64-bit Vista or Win7 Also, is the license for a single installation or is it licensed to me so that I can use it, for instance, when I use a laptop for static mobile operations? [Tim] I don't want to make any statements regarding other developers license agreements. If you have the 4.10 demo version installed, you have a copy of the software license. Look in the Help file for the section on Distribution Policy. Thanks in advance Bob Towers MM0RKT ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- Keith Goobie ke...@goobie.org Richmond Hill, Ontario ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Its only a problem if it cant be fixed via a workaround - put win7 into test mode, problem solved... (except for the additional issues 4.10 causes) -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2010 3:33 PM To: k5nwa Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:11 PM, k5nwa k5...@sbcglobal.net wrote: At 09:04 PM 2/23/2010, Brian Lloyd wrote: I guess I don't understand the concern about VAC 4.09 vs. VAC 4.10. Yes, there is a problem with 4.10 and its interaction with PSDR but I haven't heard anything about special enabling features in 4.10 that makes its use mandatory. Certainly 4.09 works just fine with PSDR when communicating with back-end CODECs. This seems to me like a non-issue. Have I missed something? -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL People want something past 4.09 that works because they have 64 bit windows that must have signed drivers, 4.09 is not a signed driver so you have to play all sorts of tricks to get it to work. Oh, that's right. Sorry. I'm still on XP and keep forgetting about the problems with Vista and 7. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
On 02/23/10 10:04 pm, Brian Lloyd wrote: I guess I don't understand the concern about VAC 4.09 vs. VAC 4.10. Yes, there is a problem with 4.10 and its interaction with PSDR but I haven't heard anything about special enabling features in 4.10 that makes its use mandatory. Certainly 4.09 works just fine with PSDR when communicating with back-end CODECs. This seems to me like a non-issue. Have I missed something? But if somebody buys VAC now, will they get a choice of 4.09 or 4.10, or will 4.10 be the only version available -- at least without jumping through hoops? 73 Alan NV8A ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
I don't know the answer to that, but it is a very good question. I suspect a purchaser will have to ask that of the vendor before they pay their money. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:52 AM To: FlexRadio Reflector Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 On 02/23/10 10:04 pm, Brian Lloyd wrote: I guess I don't understand the concern about VAC 4.09 vs. VAC 4.10. Yes, there is a problem with 4.10 and its interaction with PSDR but I haven't heard anything about special enabling features in 4.10 that makes its use mandatory. Certainly 4.09 works just fine with PSDR when communicating with back-end CODECs. This seems to me like a non-issue. Have I missed something? But if somebody buys VAC now, will they get a choice of 4.09 or 4.10, or will 4.10 be the only version available -- at least without jumping through hoops? 73 Alan NV8A ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Alan NV8A n...@charter.net wrote: But if somebody buys VAC now, will they get a choice of 4.09 or 4.10, or will 4.10 be the only version available -- at least without jumping through hoops? Yeah, I get it now. It was one of those moments where my usually-functional brain wasn't functioning. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Tim Any update from Eugene regarding VAC 4.10 issues ? Dave W0DHB ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
I guess I don't understand the concern about VAC 4.09 vs. VAC 4.10. Yes, there is a problem with 4.10 and its interaction with PSDR but I haven't heard anything about special enabling features in 4.10 that makes its use mandatory. Certainly 4.09 works just fine with PSDR when communicating with back-end CODECs. This seems to me like a non-issue. Have I missed something? -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
At 09:04 PM 2/23/2010, Brian Lloyd wrote: I guess I don't understand the concern about VAC 4.09 vs. VAC 4.10. Yes, there is a problem with 4.10 and its interaction with PSDR but I haven't heard anything about special enabling features in 4.10 that makes its use mandatory. Certainly 4.09 works just fine with PSDR when communicating with back-end CODECs. This seems to me like a non-issue. Have I missed something? -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL People want something past 4.09 that works because they have 64 bit windows that must have signed drivers, 4.09 is not a signed driver so you have to play all sorts of tricks to get it to work. Cecil k5nwa www.softrockradio.org www.qrpradio.com http://parts.softrockradio.org/ Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:11 PM, k5nwa k5...@sbcglobal.net wrote: At 09:04 PM 2/23/2010, Brian Lloyd wrote: I guess I don't understand the concern about VAC 4.09 vs. VAC 4.10. Yes, there is a problem with 4.10 and its interaction with PSDR but I haven't heard anything about special enabling features in 4.10 that makes its use mandatory. Certainly 4.09 works just fine with PSDR when communicating with back-end CODECs. This seems to me like a non-issue. Have I missed something? -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL People want something past 4.09 that works because they have 64 bit windows that must have signed drivers, 4.09 is not a signed driver so you have to play all sorts of tricks to get it to work. Oh, that's right. Sorry. I'm still on XP and keep forgetting about the problems with Vista and 7. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Hi Tim, Yes I am using RigCAT and the PowerSDR.xml file. Works perfectly ;) Mike. On 20 Feb 2010, at 03:18, Tim Ellison wrote: How do you have CAT configured with FLDIGI? RigCat? -Tim -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:20 PM To: Tim Ellison Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB; 'Ray - K9DUR'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Tim, CAT works fine, it's instant, tune the F3K and fldigi and BandMaster keep track of the frequency instantly, the delay seems to be with the sound getting into fldigi, I've been giving away points in the ARRL International DX CW Contest and I am decoding the morse in my head and replying to the stations and when I finish the QSO fldigi is still showing the QSO coming in, it's a long way behind me! (I'm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle) I'm using the VAC settings from the FlexRadio knowledge-base, are there any other tweaks I can make to improve the speed of sound getting into fldigi? If not, I will try hooking the F3K up to another PC's sound card running Ubuntu Linux and run fldigi on it as this is how I have been doing it with conventional radios and the decoding is instant. Maybe it is fldigi that runs slow under windows? As I said, this is my first time back on windows for many years and so I am not used to how it performs, or doesn't as the case may be ;)) One thing I must add is that the filtering on the F3K is stunning, I'm working CW stations that are on top of each other without any problems at all, the 50Hz filter is extremely useful in contest conditions and with some fine adjustment of the AGC/AF there is no ringing at all which makes it a lot easier on the ears! For a few of the stations I've actually narrowed down the filter even further from 50hz and I can still read the DX station without any problems at all! For all the little Foibles I'm having here at the moment I must congratulate the FlexRadio team on producing such a fine piece of HAM kit, it's certainly the best receiver I have ever played with! Cheers! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 20 Feb 2010, at 01:36, Tim Ellison wrote: This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio- boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http:// www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Interesting. I have Fldigi 3.12.5 running using RigCat and the time between clicking on TX in Fldigi and the start of transmission is ~100 ms. Did you use Brian's Fldigi PowerSDR setup how to https://fedorahosted.org/fldigi/wiki/Documentation/HOWTO/PowerSDR -Tim -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:45 AM To: Tim Ellison Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB; 'Ray - K9DUR'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Tim, Yes I am using RigCAT and the PowerSDR.xml file. Works perfectly ;) Mike. On 20 Feb 2010, at 03:18, Tim Ellison wrote: How do you have CAT configured with FLDIGI? RigCat? -Tim -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:20 PM To: Tim Ellison Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB; 'Ray - K9DUR'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Tim, CAT works fine, it's instant, tune the F3K and fldigi and BandMaster keep track of the frequency instantly, the delay seems to be with the sound getting into fldigi, I've been giving away points in the ARRL International DX CW Contest and I am decoding the morse in my head and replying to the stations and when I finish the QSO fldigi is still showing the QSO coming in, it's a long way behind me! (I'm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle) I'm using the VAC settings from the FlexRadio knowledge-base, are there any other tweaks I can make to improve the speed of sound getting into fldigi? If not, I will try hooking the F3K up to another PC's sound card running Ubuntu Linux and run fldigi on it as this is how I have been doing it with conventional radios and the decoding is instant. Maybe it is fldigi that runs slow under windows? As I said, this is my first time back on windows for many years and so I am not used to how it performs, or doesn't as the case may be ;)) One thing I must add is that the filtering on the F3K is stunning, I'm working CW stations that are on top of each other without any problems at all, the 50Hz filter is extremely useful in contest conditions and with some fine adjustment of the AGC/AF there is no ringing at all which makes it a lot easier on the ears! For a few of the stations I've actually narrowed down the filter even further from 50hz and I can still read the DX station without any problems at all! For all the little Foibles I'm having here at the moment I must congratulate the FlexRadio team on producing such a fine piece of HAM kit, it's certainly the best receiver I have ever played with! Cheers! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 20 Feb 2010, at 01:36, Tim Ellison wrote: This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio- boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http:// www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Hi Tim, Yes I've been through that setup procedure just fine. The Rig CAT Control side works fine, it's just that there seems to be a long delay in the sound getting to fldigi via the VAC for some reason which results in the delay in decoding, all the freq display and TX/RX works in an instant just fine. I have tested with another PC running fldigi under Ubuntu which is connected via the F3K speaker O/P and it decodes instantly, the fldigi running via the VAC is at least one word or more behind all the time. The next test will be fldigi running under windows on the PSDR PC with the sound passed to it via the O/P on the F3K connected to the soundcard input on the same PC and fldigi configured to get it's sound input via the soundcard instead of via VAC. I'll let you know the outcome! Mike. On 20 Feb 2010, at 14:45, Tim Ellison wrote: Interesting. I have Fldigi 3.12.5 running using RigCat and the time between clicking on TX in Fldigi and the start of transmission is ~100 ms. Did you use Brian's Fldigi PowerSDR setup how to https://fedorahosted.org/fldigi/wiki/Documentation/HOWTO/PowerSDR -Tim -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:45 AM To: Tim Ellison Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB; 'Ray - K9DUR'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Tim, Yes I am using RigCAT and the PowerSDR.xml file. Works perfectly ;) Mike. On 20 Feb 2010, at 03:18, Tim Ellison wrote: How do you have CAT configured with FLDIGI? RigCat? -Tim -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:20 PM To: Tim Ellison Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB; 'Ray - K9DUR'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Tim, CAT works fine, it's instant, tune the F3K and fldigi and BandMaster keep track of the frequency instantly, the delay seems to be with the sound getting into fldigi, I've been giving away points in the ARRL International DX CW Contest and I am decoding the morse in my head and replying to the stations and when I finish the QSO fldigi is still showing the QSO coming in, it's a long way behind me! (I'm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle) I'm using the VAC settings from the FlexRadio knowledge-base, are there any other tweaks I can make to improve the speed of sound getting into fldigi? If not, I will try hooking the F3K up to another PC's sound card running Ubuntu Linux and run fldigi on it as this is how I have been doing it with conventional radios and the decoding is instant. Maybe it is fldigi that runs slow under windows? As I said, this is my first time back on windows for many years and so I am not used to how it performs, or doesn't as the case may be ;)) One thing I must add is that the filtering on the F3K is stunning, I'm working CW stations that are on top of each other without any problems at all, the 50Hz filter is extremely useful in contest conditions and with some fine adjustment of the AGC/AF there is no ringing at all which makes it a lot easier on the ears! For a few of the stations I've actually narrowed down the filter even further from 50hz and I can still read the DX station without any problems at all! For all the little Foibles I'm having here at the moment I must congratulate the FlexRadio team on producing such a fine piece of HAM kit, it's certainly the best receiver I have ever played with! Cheers! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 20 Feb 2010, at 01:36, Tim Ellison wrote: This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio- boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems
[Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Tim/Mike What OS are you running with VAC 4.10 and how many CPU's ? One of the improvements in 4.10 was to spread the VAC computations over multi-cores . I've downloaded my upgrade, but holding off awaiting word from Tim . Dave W0DHB -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Tatum Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:56 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 58, Issue 19 Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. I have just purchased VAC and have version 4.10.0.2537 and have been disappointed with it, I thought it was the settings that I was using, I got them from the Flex Knowledge Centre. I've found there are huge delays getting the sound to fldigi for CW and PSK31 decoding, seems extremely slow? I'm running it on a 3.4Ghz Quad Core AMD 965 system which is showing total CPU load at 5% for 99% of the time so I know it's not the system under load causing the problem :) On SSB there is a lot of popping and audio drops outs making it almost unusable, I was about to contact the author and ask for a refund but I'll hold fire until you get a result from them and hopefully a patch fix! Please keep us informed of progress. Thanks. Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote: Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:20:56 -0500 From: Tim (W4TME) t...@flex-radio.com To: Flexradio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Caution: New VAC version,4.10 does not work well with PowerSDR Message-ID: 4b7dcb58.8010...@flex-radio.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed To all Flexers, There is a new version of VAC, v4.10 that has been released in the past few days. Initial testing has indicated that it is *not* a drop in replacement for VAC v4.09. I have been experiencing significant audio drop outs on receive and (worse) on transmit. Changing sample rates and buffers sizes does not seem to make any improvement in the audio quality. I would strongly recommend that Flexers who utilize VAC *NOT* install VAC 4.10 until some of these issues can be rectified. If you do plan to test VAC 4.10, please do so with a dummy load until you are certain of the quality of signal you are transmitting. I have started a correspondence with the VAC developers to help identify and rectify the significant deficiencies and defects in VAC 4.10 as they pertain to its use with PowerSDR. One other note to all users. Please do not post on the reflectors the URL for VAC upgrades. This is private information and is shared with only registered users of VAC and not the thousands of users on the reflectors. The distributors of VAC don't appreciate it and obviously get a little upset if it is done since it allows their software to be easily pirated. If you are a registered user of VAC and you do not know how to get updates, you must contact the entity you purchased VAC from to get that information. -Tim -- W4TME FlexRadio Systems - Info Management Admin. Tune in Excitement ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Hi Dave, I'm using Windows XP on a Quad Core AMD Phenom II x4 965 AM3 Black Edition CPU running at 3.4Ghz with 4GB RAM. The system load is never above 5% with everything running, PSDR, VAC, DDUtil, Fldigi, VOAcap and Band Master. The audio from VAC is quite poor to say the least, I have been quite disappointed with my purchase which I made only 2 days ago :( I'm hoping for a patch fix ASAP otherwise will be looking for a refund ;) Cheers! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:10, Dave Beumer W0DHB wrote: Tim/Mike What OS are you running with VAC 4.10 and how many CPU's ? One of the improvements in 4.10 was to spread the VAC computations over multi-cores . I've downloaded my upgrade, but holding off awaiting word from Tim . Dave W0DHB -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Tatum Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:56 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 58, Issue 19 Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. I have just purchased VAC and have version 4.10.0.2537 and have been disappointed with it, I thought it was the settings that I was using, I got them from the Flex Knowledge Centre. I've found there are huge delays getting the sound to fldigi for CW and PSK31 decoding, seems extremely slow? I'm running it on a 3.4Ghz Quad Core AMD 965 system which is showing total CPU load at 5% for 99% of the time so I know it's not the system under load causing the problem :) On SSB there is a lot of popping and audio drops outs making it almost unusable, I was about to contact the author and ask for a refund but I'll hold fire until you get a result from them and hopefully a patch fix! Please keep us informed of progress. Thanks. Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote: Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:20:56 -0500 From: Tim (W4TME) t...@flex-radio.com To: Flexradio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Caution: New VAC version, 4.10 does not work well with PowerSDR Message-ID: 4b7dcb58.8010...@flex-radio.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed To all Flexers, There is a new version of VAC, v4.10 that has been released in the past few days. Initial testing has indicated that it is *not* a drop in replacement for VAC v4.09. I have been experiencing significant audio drop outs on receive and (worse) on transmit. Changing sample rates and buffers sizes does not seem to make any improvement in the audio quality. I would strongly recommend that Flexers who utilize VAC *NOT* install VAC 4.10 until some of these issues can be rectified. If you do plan to test VAC 4.10, please do so with a dummy load until you are certain of the quality of signal you are transmitting. I have started a correspondence with the VAC developers to help identify and rectify the significant deficiencies and defects in VAC 4.10 as they pertain to its use with PowerSDR. One other note to all users. Please do not post on the reflectors the URL for VAC upgrades. This is private information and is shared with only registered users of VAC and not the thousands of users on the reflectors. The distributors of VAC don't appreciate it and obviously get a little upset if it is done since it allows their software to be easily pirated. If you are a registered user of VAC and you do not know how to get updates, you must contact the entity you purchased VAC from to get that information. -Tim -- W4TME FlexRadio Systems - Info Management Admin. Tune in Excitement ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Hi Dave, I've got the VAC buffers set to 512 which is the smallest available on the drop down list, is there something else I should be looking at? Mike. On 20 Feb 2010, at 00:32, Dave Beumer W0DHB wrote: Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Hi Tim, CAT works fine, it's instant, tune the F3K and fldigi and BandMaster keep track of the frequency instantly, the delay seems to be with the sound getting into fldigi, I've been giving away points in the ARRL International DX CW Contest and I am decoding the morse in my head and replying to the stations and when I finish the QSO fldigi is still showing the QSO coming in, it's a long way behind me! (I'm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle) I'm using the VAC settings from the FlexRadio knowledge-base, are there any other tweaks I can make to improve the speed of sound getting into fldigi? If not, I will try hooking the F3K up to another PC's sound card running Ubuntu Linux and run fldigi on it as this is how I have been doing it with conventional radios and the decoding is instant. Maybe it is fldigi that runs slow under windows? As I said, this is my first time back on windows for many years and so I am not used to how it performs, or doesn't as the case may be ;)) One thing I must add is that the filtering on the F3K is stunning, I'm working CW stations that are on top of each other without any problems at all, the 50Hz filter is extremely useful in contest conditions and with some fine adjustment of the AGC/AF there is no ringing at all which makes it a lot easier on the ears! For a few of the stations I've actually narrowed down the filter even further from 50hz and I can still read the DX station without any problems at all! For all the little Foibles I'm having here at the moment I must congratulate the FlexRadio team on producing such a fine piece of HAM kit, it's certainly the best receiver I have ever played with! Cheers! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 20 Feb 2010, at 01:36, Tim Ellison wrote: This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio- boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http:// www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
How do you have CAT configured with FLDIGI? RigCat? -Tim -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:20 PM To: Tim Ellison Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB; 'Ray - K9DUR'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Tim, CAT works fine, it's instant, tune the F3K and fldigi and BandMaster keep track of the frequency instantly, the delay seems to be with the sound getting into fldigi, I've been giving away points in the ARRL International DX CW Contest and I am decoding the morse in my head and replying to the stations and when I finish the QSO fldigi is still showing the QSO coming in, it's a long way behind me! (I'm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle) I'm using the VAC settings from the FlexRadio knowledge-base, are there any other tweaks I can make to improve the speed of sound getting into fldigi? If not, I will try hooking the F3K up to another PC's sound card running Ubuntu Linux and run fldigi on it as this is how I have been doing it with conventional radios and the decoding is instant. Maybe it is fldigi that runs slow under windows? As I said, this is my first time back on windows for many years and so I am not used to how it performs, or doesn't as the case may be ;)) One thing I must add is that the filtering on the F3K is stunning, I'm working CW stations that are on top of each other without any problems at all, the 50Hz filter is extremely useful in contest conditions and with some fine adjustment of the AGC/AF there is no ringing at all which makes it a lot easier on the ears! For a few of the stations I've actually narrowed down the filter even further from 50hz and I can still read the DX station without any problems at all! For all the little Foibles I'm having here at the moment I must congratulate the FlexRadio team on producing such a fine piece of HAM kit, it's certainly the best receiver I have ever played with! Cheers! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 20 Feb 2010, at 01:36, Tim Ellison wrote: This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio- boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http:// www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
