Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived

2006-09-22 Thread Mike Naruta
Dave, if you import the database from the previous
version, it will remember the PA gain settings
last entered.

If you install a new version without db import,
it will install default values and you can
run the PA calibration routine on the Setup
with a dummy load.  Doesn't take long and
I still find it interesting to watch.

So, there is no more gain typing needed.



Mike - AA8K



David Ackrill wrote:


 
 I've got it up and running this afternoon and checked it into my Bird 
 Termaline dummy load and it calibrates OK.  One question, the Gain 
 results on the paper they sent is different to the default settings.  Do 
 you have to keep re-entering them?  I noticed that, when I changed from 
 V1.6.2 to one of the latest updates, the gain numbers were different.  
 Is there a way to save the gain figures and do they get changed by the 
 calibration routine?
 
 I've already calibrated against WWV on 10MHz, so almost ready to start 
 making some contacts.  What's the betting there will be a CME, I wont 
 have any antennas up for VHF, and the HF bands will be knocked out?  HI
 
 Dave (G0DJA)
 

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Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived

2006-09-22 Thread David Ackrill
Mike Naruta wrote:
 Dave, if you import the database from the previous
 version, it will remember the PA gain settings
 last entered.
   

Thanks for the advice Mike,

Do I need to re-enter the Test Results, on the paperwork that came with 
the rig, or is it safe to just run the calibration routine with the 
default values, I wonder?

Also, now I've calibrated the RX, the RX floor is below the display, and 
the setting wont let me see it below -200dB.  I wonder if I got the 
calibration set up correctly?  I tuned to 10MHz, found a nice strong WWV 
transmission and PowerSDR seemed happy with it and ran the RX 
calibration programme using -130 as per the instruction for having the 
RFE board installed.

Dave (G0DJA)

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Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived

2006-09-22 Thread Gerald Capodieci
If it's new hardware you need to enter the printed settings or run the 
calabrate program.

David Ackrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Mike Naruta wrote:
 Dave, if you import the database from the previous
 version, it will remember the PA gain settings
 last entered.
 

Thanks for the advice Mike,

Do I need to re-enter the Test Results, on the paperwork that came with 
the rig, or is it safe to just run the calibration routine with the 
default values, I wonder?

Also, now I've calibrated the RX, the RX floor is below the display, and 
the setting wont let me see it below -200dB. I wonder if I got the 
calibration set up correctly? I tuned to 10MHz, found a nice strong WWV 
transmission and PowerSDR seemed happy with it and ran the RX 
calibration programme using -130 as per the instruction for having the 
RFE board installed.

Dave (G0DJA)

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Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived

2006-09-22 Thread Eric Wachsmann
If you have a dummy load, we will always recommend you just running the
calibration routine as opposed to entering the data we provide.  We provide
the data as a historical reference and for those without a dummy load.

You will get the most accurate results running the calibration with your
radio at your location with your unique environment variables.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of David Ackrill
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:43 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived
 
 Mike Naruta wrote:
  Dave, if you import the database from the previous
  version, it will remember the PA gain settings
  last entered.
 
 
 Thanks for the advice Mike,
 
 Do I need to re-enter the Test Results, on the paperwork that came with
 the rig, or is it safe to just run the calibration routine with the
 default values, I wonder?
 
 Also, now I've calibrated the RX, the RX floor is below the display, and
 the setting wont let me see it below -200dB.  I wonder if I got the
 calibration set up correctly?  I tuned to 10MHz, found a nice strong WWV
 transmission and PowerSDR seemed happy with it and ran the RX
 calibration programme using -130 as per the instruction for having the
 RFE board installed.
 
 Dave (G0DJA)
 
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Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived - Level Calibration

2006-09-22 Thread Mike Naruta
David Ackrill wrote:

 
 Also, now I've calibrated the RX, the RX floor is below the display, and 
 the setting wont let me see it below -200dB.  I wonder if I got the 
 calibration set up correctly?  I tuned to 10MHz, found a nice strong WWV 
 transmission and PowerSDR seemed happy with it and ran the RX 
 calibration programme using -130 as per the instruction for having the 
 RFE board installed.
 
 Dave (G0DJA)
 
 

Dave, what kind of signal generator did you use
to get a -130 dBm signal for your level calibration?

I have an Elecraft XG-1 that I use for a -73 dBm signal.


Mike - AA8K


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Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived

2006-09-22 Thread Thompson_Peter
Dave,

I use my Elecraft XG-1 at 50uV to do the RX level calibration (this
corresponds to -73dBm which is S9).
I use either the XG-1 or wwv at 10.0MHz for the RX freq calibration.
As pointed out earlier, the RX null requires a stronger sig than the
50uV supplied by the XG-1 so a second TX is a good choice for this
calibration.

Your situation with the noise floor so low sounds like something isn't
right with the level cal.  My noise floor typically sits at about
-130dBm on 20m with med pre-amp setting.  It sounds like you need to
recalibrate the RX level against a known sig level, if I'm reading your
comments correctly.

Pete, N3EVL

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 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:00 PM
 To: 'David Ackrill'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived
 
 If you have a dummy load, we will always recommend you just 
 running the calibration routine as opposed to entering the 
 data we provide.  We provide the data as a historical 
 reference and for those without a dummy load.
 
 You will get the most accurate results running the 
 calibration with your radio at your location with your unique 
 environment variables.
 
 
 Eric Wachsmann
 FlexRadio Systems
 
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  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived
  
  Mike Naruta wrote:
   Dave, if you import the database from the previous 
 version, it will 
   remember the PA gain settings last entered.
  
  
  Thanks for the advice Mike,
  
  Do I need to re-enter the Test Results, on the paperwork 
 that came with
  the rig, or is it safe to just run the calibration routine with the
  default values, I wonder?
  
  Also, now I've calibrated the RX, the RX floor is below the 
 display, and
  the setting wont let me see it below -200dB.  I wonder if I got the
  calibration set up correctly?  I tuned to 10MHz, found a 
 nice strong WWV
  transmission and PowerSDR seemed happy with it and ran the RX
  calibration programme using -130 as per the instruction for 
 having the
  RFE board installed.
  
  Dave (G0DJA)
  
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Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived

2006-09-22 Thread Eric Wachsmann
The RX null does not REQUIRE a stronger signal than -73.0dBm, but you will
likely get a BETTER null if you do use a stronger signal.  Just wanted to
clarify that.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

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 As pointed out earlier, the RX null requires a stronger sig than the
 50uV supplied by the XG-1 so a second TX is a good choice for this
 calibration.


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Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived

2006-09-22 Thread David Ackrill

Gerald Capodieci wrote:
 If it's new hardware you need to enter the printed settings or run the 
 calabrate program.

 */David Ackrill [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:


 Do I need to re-enter the Test Results, on the paperwork that came
 with
 the rig, or is it safe to just run the calibration routine with the
 default values, I wonder?


Ah, well then I've been 'belt and braces' as I've been entering the Test 
Result settings and then running the calibrate program.

However, it's a good job my dummy load is oil filled, and rated for 50W 
continuous and at least 100W on a 50/50 duty cycle, as the calibrate 
program has been hitting over 100W both on the PowerSDR display and on 
my power meter...

I'll take another look at the set up, and make sure it's not trying to 
overdrive the system.

Dave (G0DJA)

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Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived

2006-09-22 Thread David Ackrill
Eric Wachsmann wrote:
 If you have a dummy load, we will always recommend you just running the
 calibration routine as opposed to entering the data we provide.  We provide
 the data as a historical reference and for those without a dummy load.

 You will get the most accurate results running the calibration with your
 radio at your location with your unique environment variables.


 Eric Wachsmann
 FlexRadio Systems
   
Thanks for the clarification Eric,

Given my self inflicted problems with the RFE pins, and the MP3+, I'm a 
bit squeemish about making sure that I do things in the right order this 
time!

Dave (G0DJA)

   

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Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived

2006-09-22 Thread Tim Ellison
What you are seeing is in order.  The new PA calibration routine runs at
100 watts for all bands except for 10  12 meters where it should be 75
watts

-Tim
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Gerald Capodieci wrote:
 If it's new hardware you need to enter the printed settings or run the

 calabrate program.

 */David Ackrill [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:


 Do I need to re-enter the Test Results, on the paperwork that came
 with
 the rig, or is it safe to just run the calibration routine with
the
 default values, I wonder?


Ah, well then I've been 'belt and braces' as I've been entering the Test

Result settings and then running the calibrate program.

However, it's a good job my dummy load is oil filled, and rated for 50W 
continuous and at least 100W on a 50/50 duty cycle, as the calibrate 
program has been hitting over 100W both on the PowerSDR display and on 
my power meter...

I'll take another look at the set up, and make sure it's not trying to 
overdrive the system.

Dave (G0DJA)

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Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived - Level Calibration

2006-09-22 Thread David Ackrill
Mike Naruta wrote:
 David Ackrill wrote:


 Also, now I've calibrated the RX, the RX floor is below the display, 
 and the setting wont let me see it below -200dB.  I wonder if I got 
 the calibration set up correctly?  I tuned to 10MHz, found a nice 
 strong WWV transmission and PowerSDR seemed happy with it and ran the 
 RX calibration programme using -130 as per the instruction for having 
 the RFE board installed.

 Dave (G0DJA)



 Dave, what kind of signal generator did you use
 to get a -130 dBm signal for your level calibration?

 I have an Elecraft XG-1 that I use for a -73 dBm signal.


I'm sure that -130 was suggested as a start point for RFE boards...

Maybe that's changed.

OK, time to reset all the parameters and start again...

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Re: [Flexradio] New SDR1000 has arrived

2006-09-22 Thread David Ackrill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave,

 I use my Elecraft XG-1 at 50uV to do the RX level calibration (this
 corresponds to -73dBm which is S9).
 I use either the XG-1 or wwv at 10.0MHz for the RX freq calibration.
 As pointed out earlier, the RX null requires a stronger sig than the
 50uV supplied by the XG-1 so a second TX is a good choice for this
 calibration.

 Your situation with the noise floor so low sounds like something isn't
 right with the level cal.  My noise floor typically sits at about
 -130dBm on 20m with med pre-amp setting.  It sounds like you need to
 recalibrate the RX level against a known sig level, if I'm reading your
 comments correctly.

 Pete, N3EVL

I think I've been confusing old instructions, and the latest instructions...

OK, all reset, PA set up again, and the RX level reset to -70dBm.

I'm listening to the Russian frequency standard on 9.996MHz.  Which is 
peaking somewhere about -120dB above noise, which is at about -140dB on 
the standard setting.

Unfortunately, WWV isn't so good now, it being night over here.  LOL.

Ah well, maybe tomorrow...

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