[Flightgear-devel] compiling FlightGear-- linking phase

2006-05-31 Thread Sexauer, Steve
I'm trying to compile FlightGear for the first time. (using VS 8 on
windoze)

I'm getting 704 unresolved externals (4411 errors) on the second pass of
the linking phase (after compiling everything sucessfully) 

I have the following defined in the linker as additional library
directories
C:\plib\lib C:\simgear;  C:\AL;C:\zlib; 

plib has 12 .libs
SimGear has SimGear.lib
AL has alut.lib  ( alut.dll)
zlib has  zdll.lib ( zlib1.dll)

I'm also getting a good number of unreferenced local variable warnings
in the compile phase. Is that anything to look into ?

I didn't reinstall the base anywhere since I have the main installation,
but I dont see anything in there it needs.  ? 


Thanks 
Steve




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[Flightgear-devel] feature request - animation

2006-05-31 Thread Dave Culp
Would it be possible for some kind soul to add personality to the blend 
and scale animations?  This will allow better modeling of contrails and 
smoke.

Thanks,
Dave 


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[Flightgear-devel] ..make -I/opt/include, was ..what did I miss here??? cvs Simgear (or terrorgear) in /opt

2006-05-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 30 May 2006 03:55:55 +0200, Arnt wrote in message 
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 On Mon, 29 May 2006 15:44:39 +0200, Erik wrote in message 
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  Arnt Karlsen wrote:
   Hi,
   
   ..what did I miss here???  cvs Simgear for terrorgear in /opt
  
   AL/alut.h: No such file or directory make[3]: ***
   [visual_enviro.o]
  
  You forgot to add -I/opt/include to the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS
  variable.

.._how_ do I _do_ this

 ..aye, and to get FreeAlut installed.  Trying without it,, breaks 
  make -I/opt/include  on missing /opt/include/AL/alut.h .
 
 On Mon, 29 May 2006 18:17:49 +0200 (CEST), Anders wrote in message 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Mon, 29 May 2006, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   ..what did I miss here???  cvs Simgear for terrorgear in /opt
  
  Have you installed FreeAlut too? As far as I know it is not part of
  OpenAL  anymore - and it is needed..
 
 ..ok, in  /opt/include, I have AL/al.h, alc.h and alext.h, the plib
 and simgear trees, but AL is still not seen by  make -I/opt/lib \
 -I/opt/include/ -I/opt/include/AL .  
 Adding  -I/opt/include/AL/*,  I learn Nothing to be done for 
 /opt/include/AL/* .
 
..I am missing something _basic_ here, and and even if I will be first
to coffman start a gasifier this afternoon,  I'm out of ideas on 
make -I/opt/include , and this is now holding up rebuilding the 
new vmap1Cape Verde scenario too, plus Dene's and Georg's work 
on our airventure.org/atc/ scenarios, I need TerraGear working 
to do my part here.

-- 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sailing Ships (was Re: Tides in FlightGear?)

2006-05-31 Thread Steve Hosgood
Jim A wrote:

All very good, and a great technical challenge.  But, maybe a branch called 
FloatGear would be in order?   ;-)

  

I love it! Thanks - that made me smile first thing in the morning.

then there are land vehicles  -- for transportation, sport, and 
defenseDriveGear?

  

Or TopGear (or IntoGear) :-)

It would be cool to have the Nimitz (and others) respond to sea state, and the 
visual eye candy of the water to look appropriate to the sea state condition.

These thoughts all seem daunting, but seeing what this community has 
accomplished thus far, it could very well happen.
  


Indeed - however my suggestion would be that should the world-system of 
FG get used for things other than flight simulation, that it doesn't get 
branched. Branching just makes maintainance more difficult and breeds 
flamewars.

It is probably best that people wanting to use FlightGear as a world 
engine for other things (like ship sims) just get on with it using the 
code as is, but keep talking on this list so that mainline code 
developers can try and avoid doing things that deliberately break those 
side-projects.

Should something like a ship-sim become popular (and people have asked 
about ship sims on here before) then maybe its code might enter FG's CVS 
repository, just like a new flight-sim engine might. (There are at least 
three flight-sim engines in there already.)

It might even happen that FlightGear code becomes three or more 
conceptual lumps, rather than the two is is now (SimGear  FlightGear). 
SimGear is already starting to look like a great load of astronomy stuff 
could be broken out into - er - EphemGear? :-)

I shall keep an interested eye on whatever improvements are suggested 
(and made) to the oceans in FG. The development people will probably 
already want to allow for things like aircraft carriers to behave more 
naturally - if they keep that in mind, hooking in a sailing ship later 
should be straightforward.

Steve.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..make -I/opt/include, was ..what did I miss here??? cvs Simgear (or terrorgear) in /opt

2006-05-31 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Wed, 31 May 2006, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Tue, 30 May 2006 03:55:55 +0200, Arnt wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 29 May 2006 15:44:39 +0200, Erik wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 You forgot to add -I/opt/include to the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS
 variable.

 .._how_ do I _do_ this

Hi,

I don't remember having to mess with the CFLAGS to compile SimGear.

./configure --prefix=/opt
make
make install

should do it after OpenAL, FreeALUT and plib has been installed in /opt or 
their default location.
(I use the Debian/Testing packages libopenal-dev and libalut-dev)

LAST MINUTE NOTE:
   At this point I had completely forgotten that Arnt was trying to build
   TerraGear and not FlightGear. I have never build TerraGear but I still
   hope that the following is helpful for someone.

 ..aye, and to get FreeAlut installed.  Trying without it,, breaks
  make -I/opt/include  on missing /opt/include/AL/alut.h .

I don't think sending the -I flag to make will do any good.

CFLAGS=-I/opt/include make

might work. But the --prefix option to configure should have taken care of 
that already.

 ..I am missing something _basic_ here, and and even if I will be first
 to coffman start a gasifier this afternoon,  I'm out of ideas on
 make -I/opt/include , and this is now holding up rebuilding the
 new vmap1Cape Verde scenario too, plus Dene's and Georg's work
 on our airventure.org/atc/ scenarios, I need TerraGear working
 to do my part here.

Here are my ./configure lines:
(always followed by make; make install)

plib:
./configure --prefix=/home/anders/FlightGear/0.9_cvs

SimGear:
./configure --prefix=/home/anders/FlightGear/0.9_cvs

FlightGear:
./configure --prefix=/home/anders/FlightGear/0.9_cvs --enable-sdl


For me OpenAL and ALUT was a pain to compile and install on my system so I 
were happy when the Debian packages were updated to a new enough version.
(The amount of compile/install problems seems to differ a lot between 
different systems and OpenAL versions. I've only tried on two systems.)

Cheers,

Anders
-- 
In a world without fences, who needs gates?
Email: anders(at)gidenstam.org
WWW: http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/JSBSim-LTA/


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[Flightgear-devel] fgmap navaids

2006-05-31 Thread Pigeon

Hi all,

I have just put up the navaids stuff to the fgmap for people to
test/play with a bit. It is at http://mpmap02.flightgear.org/
or http://pigeond.net/flightgear/fg_server_map.html and there is now a
new nav tab in the menu.


Hope the interface is straight forward. Currently there are mainly
two ways of using it:
 
- Search a navaid by its id/code or name. After a search, results
  would be shown at the bottom, and you can show and pan to a navaid
  by clicking on it in the result list.

- Show all navaids in the current view of the map.

You can select what type of navaid to search for/show as well.

You can toggle a type of navaid to be visible/invisible.



There are certain things on my TODO list:

- Drawing proper glideslope/etc for ILS, currently it only shows the
  name and the freq for the ILS.

- Heliport is not done/shown yet.

- Optimizing the database/queries. I haven't tune anything yet. I
  guess this is one of the purposes of this testing release. So
  please don't mind if sometimes the lookups are slow.

- Adding metar reports for airports


Please let me know any feedbacks and bugs.


http://mpmap01.flightgear.org/ stays as it is, just in case the new
fgmap is really broken :)


Pigeon.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgmap navaids

2006-05-31 Thread Pigeon
 There are certain things on my TODO list:

Also, airways are not done yet.


Pigeon.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgmap navaids

2006-05-31 Thread dene maxwell
WOW!!

great stuff Pigeon... tried to out-wit it by putting in Titahi Bay (a 
local NDB) straight back at me!!!


looking forward to airways

Cheers
:-D ene


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Subject: [Flightgear-devel] fgmap navaids
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:29:35 +1000


Hi all,

 I have just put up the navaids stuff to the fgmap for people to
test/play with a bit. It is at http://mpmap02.flightgear.org/
or http://pigeond.net/flightgear/fg_server_map.html and there is now a
new nav tab in the menu.


 Hope the interface is straight forward. Currently there are mainly
two ways of using it:

 - Search a navaid by its id/code or name. After a search, results
   would be shown at the bottom, and you can show and pan to a navaid
   by clicking on it in the result list.

 - Show all navaids in the current view of the map.

 You can select what type of navaid to search for/show as well.

 You can toggle a type of navaid to be visible/invisible.



 There are certain things on my TODO list:

 - Drawing proper glideslope/etc for ILS, currently it only shows the
   name and the freq for the ILS.

 - Heliport is not done/shown yet.

 - Optimizing the database/queries. I haven't tune anything yet. I
   guess this is one of the purposes of this testing release. So
   please don't mind if sometimes the lookups are slow.

 - Adding metar reports for airports


 Please let me know any feedbacks and bugs.


 http://mpmap01.flightgear.org/ stays as it is, just in case the new
fgmap is really broken :)


Pigeon.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..make -I/opt/include, was ..what did I miss here??? cvs Simgear (or terrorgear) in /opt

2006-05-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 01:23:55 +0200 (CEST), Anders wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, 31 May 2006, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Tue, 30 May 2006 03:55:55 +0200, Arnt wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Mon, 29 May 2006 15:44:39 +0200, Erik wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  You forgot to add -I/opt/include to the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS
  variable.
 
  .._how_ do I _do_ this
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't remember having to mess with the CFLAGS to compile SimGear.
 
 ./configure --prefix=/opt
 make
 make install
 
 should do it after OpenAL, FreeALUT and plib has been installed in
 /opt or  their default location.
 (I use the Debian/Testing packages libopenal-dev and libalut-dev)

..duh!  Now I see this.  Simgear make in progress.  ;o)
Update:  Simgear installed ok.  :o)

 LAST MINUTE NOTE:
At this point I had completely forgotten that Arnt was trying to
build TerraGear and not FlightGear. I have never build TerraGear
but I still hope that the following is helpful for someone.

..in progress.  ;o)
 
  ..aye, and to get FreeAlut installed.  Trying without it,, breaks
   make -I/opt/include  on missing /opt/include/AL/alut.h .
 
 I don't think sending the -I flag to make will do any good.
 
 CFLAGS=-I/opt/include make

..now we're talking:  I use  CFLAGS=-I/opt/include make  
instead of  make ,  COLUMNS=160 dpkg -l -style???

..I tried several variants of this, and got the same error, chk
http://80.239.32.252/FreeAlut.make.fails .  A duh later, I 
have SimGear installed ok, however the CFLAGS question 
answered, would be an useful reference for anyone debugging 
FreeAlut, for me, chances are I don't need to understand WTF 
I was trying to do to get TerrorGear done.  ;O)

 might work. But the --prefix option to configure should have taken
 care of  that already.
 
  ..I am missing something _basic_ here, and and even if I will be
  first to coffman start a gasifier this afternoon,  I'm out of
  ideas on make -I/opt/include , and this is now holding up
  rebuilding the new vmap1Cape Verde scenario too, plus Dene's and
  Georg's work on our airventure.org/atc/ scenarios, I need TerraGear
  working to do my part here.
 
 Here are my ./configure lines:
 (always followed by make; make install)
 
 plib:
 ./configure --prefix=/home/anders/FlightGear/0.9_cvs
 
 SimGear:
 ./configure --prefix=/home/anders/FlightGear/0.9_cvs

..does cvs Simgear's  jpg-factory take and respond to jpg size
arguments?  Off FG-0.9.10-2.deb, I get a green 320x240
mail-stamp-in-the-wrong-corner, and no hints other than 
the ugly compile time hint in the  source?  Could not find it 
in FG's property tree either.

 FlightGear:
 ./configure --prefix=/home/anders/FlightGear/0.9_cvs --enable-sdl

..package .debs off  cvs?  ;o)
 
 
 For me OpenAL and ALUT was a pain to compile and install on my system
 so I  were happy when the Debian packages were updated to a new enough
 version. (The amount of compile/install problems seems to differ a lot
 between  different systems and OpenAL versions. I've only tried on
 two systems.)

..thanks a lot, Anders.  :o)

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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380 Development

2006-05-31 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 16:13, Frederic Bouvier wrote:
 Frederic Bouvier wrote :
  ...
Model Author:  Author Name
Creation Date: Creation Date
Version:   Version
Description:   Models a a380
  IndependenVar property, velocities/mach-norm in Table definition is not
  defined.
 
 
  This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual
  way.
  Please contact the application's support team for more information.
 
 
 
  And the windows close itself.

 Because there is an abort() in FGTable.cpp, line 166.

 -Fred

I suspect it is FDM's issue.  Try using the Null FDM.

Ampere


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[Flightgear-devel] v0.9.10 fails with error message

2006-05-31 Thread Don Oliver
Hi All,

I uninstalled a working version 0.9.9, then used the
FlightGear uninstall before installing v0.9.10

Failed with a list of errors.

Again uninstalled, and found that the FlightGear
folders and files were still there, so deleted all,
and again installed v0.9.10

Now fails with only the following errors:
Error reading properties:
Failed to open file at C:/Documents and
Settings/Don.ANTEC/Application
Data/flightgear.org/autosave.xml
(reported by SimGear XML Parser)
unexpected tag 'fdm_config' found in YASim aircraft
description.

Using the default model Cessna 172P Skyhawk (1981
model), and the default airport KSFO

OS Win Xp Pro sp2
CPU AMD Athlon XP
1 GB RAM
Display ATI Radeon 9800 Pro

Thanks for any clues.
Don Oliver


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