Re: [Flightgear-devel] Turning final to LinuxTag 2008 in Berlin
Hi Torsten, On Monday 02 June 2008 21:01, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > > Some of the pics at http://www.t3r.de/linuxtag/ show our amazing > hardware setup with up to four 24" widescreen displays per cockpit bringing > FlightGear in cinemascope to the people. A complete set of controls > (Joystick and yoke, rudder, throttle) for both stations allowed some > "almost real" flying. > Thanks for the Pics. Please find a selection of my own pictures below: http://durktalsma.xs4all.nl/LinuxTag2008/web/index.html > Cheers, Durk - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
* Curtis Olson -- Tuesday 03 June 2008:
> Well assuming that we have agreed to switch over to a case insensitive
> search,
I think we have. Takes another hour until I have compiled OSG 2.5.1
and the newest sg/fg changes, but then I'll commit Stuart's patch
(after having fixed indendation and random spaces, of course :-).
For those not fully understanding the issue yet, here's a little
illustration: If I use the following quite useful shell function ...
apt() { LANG=en_US zgrep "^1 " $FG_ROOT/Airports/apt.dat.gz|sed -r
's,^..{13},,'|egrep -i "$*" ; }
like so:
$ apt "" # normally I'd write e.g.apt ^LO or apt Dallas
then I get a list of all airports, and a part of it looks like this:
YWTL Waterloo
CYKF WATERLOO
KALO WATERLOO RGNL
37NE Watermeier
MA97 Waters
KART WATERTOWN INTL
KRYV Watertown Muni
KATY WATERTOWN RGNL
2S5 Waterville
CCW3 Waterville Kings Co Muni
KWVL WATERVILLE ROBERT LAFLEUR
40C Watervliet Municipal
S25 WATFORD CITY MUNI
So a case-sensitive search for "Wat" would give me an unpredictable
"random" result. There's no rule for when names are capitalized or
versal. This is not suited to find a particular airport. Of course,
we could modify the names when reading in apt.dat.gz, but that's a
bit tricky, too. Some things don't make sense when auto-capitalized:
AB (Airbase) shouldn't become Ab, for example.
m.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 02 June 2008: > > And before we do anything like that we should first decide if > > we *really* want and need the case sensitivity configurable. > > ... especially considering that we are having the discussion exactly > because case-sensitivity turned out to be useless given the bad > state of apt.dat. So, if it's useless, why make it an option? :-) Well assuming that we have agreed to switch over to a case insensitive search, that it's hard to disagree with you. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 02 June 2008: > And before we do anything like that we should first decide if > we *really* want and need the case sensitivity configurable. ... especially considering that we are having the discussion exactly because case-sensitivity turned out to be useless given the bad state of apt.dat. So, if it's useless, why make it an option? :-) m. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
* Curtis Olson -- Monday 02 June 2008: > I may be completely misunderstanding this whole thread, but could we add > another widget to the search dialog window that is tied to a boolean > property. We could, but it would IMHO also be a bit unclean, as it would influence all airport-search widgets. (Sure, we use only one, but that's not the point.) And before we do anything like that we should first decide if we *really* want and need the case sensitivity configurable. Just adding checkboxes for the sake of it doesn't make dialogs better. This rings my bloat-bell. :-} m. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
Torsten Dreyer -- Tuesday 03 June 2008: > > Maybe a litte checkbox named "Case sensitive search" might give the user > the > > freedom of choice? This adds one option without dropping the other. > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > Widgets are associated with one single property, and they read > from it after getting a "dialog-update" and write to it after > getting a "dialog-apply". The former is used for sending the > search expression to the widget, the latter for returning the > selected entry. > > So to add a widget config option, one would have to encode that > in the search expression, for example by (optionally) setting a > non-ASCII character at the first position via some embedded Nasal. > But that's a bit ugly, and I'm not sure if it's worth it. > Case-insensitive ought to be enough for anybody. :-) I may be completely misunderstanding this whole thread, but could we add another widget to the search dialog window that is tied to a boolean property. Then the search function could check the state of this value when it searches to control the case sensitivity behavior. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
* Stuart Buchanan -- Monday 02 June 2008: > Assuming it passes muster, [...] It doesn't. You are adding 2-space spaghetti code indentation to a file that uses 4 spaces. m. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
--- On Mon, 2/6/08, Stuart Buchanan wrote:
> I will continue looking at this, though if anyone else
> would like to jump in with suggestions, that would be very
> welcome.
... and here's the patch, based on Fred's original patch.
Assuming it passes muster, could someone review and commit please?
-Stuart
Index: AirportList.cxx
===
RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/GUI/AirportList.cxx,v
retrieving revision 1.18
diff -u -p -r1.18 AirportList.cxx
--- AirportList.cxx 11 Mar 2008 15:58:57 - 1.18
+++ AirportList.cxx 2 Jun 2008 21:05:01 -
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-
+#include
#include
#include
@@ -22,6 +22,7 @@ AirportList::~AirportList ()
void
AirportList::create_list ()
{
+const std::ctype &ct = std::use_facet
>(std::locale() );
int num_apt = _airports->size();
char **content = new char *[num_apt + 1];
@@ -30,8 +31,13 @@ AirportList::create_list ()
const FGAirport *apt = _airports->getAirport(i);
STD::string entry(apt->getName() + " (" + apt->getId() + ')');
-if (!_filter.empty() && entry.find(_filter) == STD::string::npos)
+if (!_filter.empty()) {
+ // Perform filter check case-insensitively
+ std::string cientry(apt->getName() + " (" + apt->getId() + ')');
+ ct.toupper( (char *) cientry.data(), (char *) cientry.data() +
cientry.size() );
+ if (cientry.find(_filter) == std::string::npos)
continue;
+}
content[n] = new char[entry.size() + 1];
strcpy(content[n], entry.c_str());
@@ -60,7 +66,12 @@ AirportList::destroy_list ()
void
AirportList::setValue (const char *s)
{
-STD::string filter(s);
+std::string filter(s);
+const std::ctype &ct = std::use_facet
>(std::locale() );
+
+// convert filter to upper-case for case-insensitive matching
+ct.toupper( (char *) filter.data(), (char *) filter.data() +
_filter.size() );
+
if (filter != _filter) {
_filter = filter;
create_list();
Index: AirportList.hxx
===
RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/GUI/AirportList.hxx,v
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -p -r1.7 AirportList.hxx
--- AirportList.hxx 11 Mar 2008 15:58:57 - 1.7
+++ AirportList.hxx 2 Jun 2008 21:05:01 -
@@ -9,10 +9,6 @@
#include
#include "dialog.hxx"
-
-
-SG_USING_STD(string);
-
class FGAirportList;
class AirportList : public puaList, public GUI_ID
@@ -28,7 +24,7 @@ class AirportList : public puaList, publ
private:
FGAirportList * _airports;
char ** _content;
-STD::string _filter;
+std::string _filter;
};
#endif // __AIRPORTLIST_HXX
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
* Torsten Dreyer -- Tuesday 03 June 2008: > Maybe a litte checkbox named "Case sensitive search" might give the user the > freedom of choice? This adds one option without dropping the other. Widgets are associated with one single property, and they read from it after getting a "dialog-update" and write to it after getting a "dialog-apply". The former is used for sending the search expression to the widget, the latter for returning the selected entry. So to add a widget config option, one would have to encode that in the search expression, for example by (optionally) setting a non-ASCII character at the first position via some embedded Nasal. But that's a bit ugly, and I'm not sure if it's worth it. Case-insensitive ought to be enough for anybody. :-) m. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
Am Montag, 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Melchior FRANZ: > * Stuart Buchanan -- Monday 02 June 2008: > > Nevertheless, I think these are acceptable numbers for a 3 character > > string. The user can easily perform a more specific search on receiving > > a large number of results. > > As I told on IRC already, the current case-sensitive behavior wasn't > an accident or laziness. It allowed a more precise search string with > less hits. This seemed useful at times where airport names were > consistently and correctly capitalized. Unfortunately, current apt.dat > is a complete mess in this regard, so case-sensitivity turned into > a disadvantage, and I agree that case-insensitivity is now desirable. > (Well, fixing apt.dat would be even better, but not in our responsibility.) Maybe a litte checkbox named "Case sensitive search" might give the user the freedom of choice? This adds one option without dropping the other. Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] permissions problem in /FlightGear-0.9/source/src/ATCDCL
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't create a lock file in that directory when doing a check-in. > Curt, could you please fix the permissions on that directory? Sorry, my fault, should be fixed now. BTW, I just received 100' of rubber tubing so I can rig up a sailplane launcher ... something like this, only my wing is 7.5' and I'm more than a little nervous if this will actually work or not. http://youtube.com/watch?v=XSDsBklV8vA Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] permissions problem in /FlightGear-0.9/source/src/ATCDCL
Hi, I can't create a lock file in that directory when doing a check-in. Curt, could you please fix the permissions on that directory? Thanks, Tim - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
--- On Mon, 2/6/08, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Stuart Buchanan -- Monday 02 June 2008: > > Nevertheless, I think these are acceptable numbers for > a 3 character > > string. The user can easily perform a more specific > search on receiving > > a large number of results. > > As I told on IRC already, the current case-sensitive > behavior wasn't an accident or laziness. I must have missed that. I have not been paying enough attention to the IRC channel when logged on recently. My apologies. > BTW: that ICAO codes are output in parentheses is also not > just a > cosmetic issue: this was done to allow searching for all > French airports > with "(LF", for (almost) all Austrian military > airports with "(LOX" etc. Thanks for pointing that out. I will ensure that this behaviour is unaffected by any changes. -Stuart __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
* Stuart Buchanan -- Monday 02 June 2008: > Nevertheless, I think these are acceptable numbers for a 3 character > string. The user can easily perform a more specific search on receiving > a large number of results. As I told on IRC already, the current case-sensitive behavior wasn't an accident or laziness. It allowed a more precise search string with less hits. This seemed useful at times where airport names were consistently and correctly capitalized. Unfortunately, current apt.dat is a complete mess in this regard, so case-sensitivity turned into a disadvantage, and I agree that case-insensitivity is now desirable. (Well, fixing apt.dat would be even better, but not in our responsibility.) BTW: that ICAO codes are output in parentheses is also not just a cosmetic issue: this was done to allow searching for all French airports with "(LF", for (almost) all Austrian military airports with "(LOX" etc. m. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch to perform airport searches case-insensitively
--- On Sun, 1/6/08, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > I confirm there in no strcasestr or equivalent in MS > runtime. > The patch below should be portable, although more > convoluted. >From reading the patch, I don't think this does quite what we want either. My >reading is that this ensures that the identifier of the airport is in upper >case. However, thanks for pointing out another approach to the problem. What we really want is to ensure that any search is completely case-insensitive. For example, apt.dat contains the following lines: 1 400 1 1 KLVK LIVERMORE MUNI 1 425 0 1 4AK2 Livengood Camp 13982 0 0 LIVD Dobbiaco Currently, searching for "LIV" returns the first and last lines, while searching for "Livermore" returns nothing, despite being what most people would search for. I think a use searching for "liv" would expect to see all the results above, and more. One issue that is worth discussion is that if we make the search completely case-insensitive, we obviously increase the number of results returned. In the example above, searching for "liv" would return a total of 54 results. A much less unique string, such as "san" would return over 400. Note that this assumes that the user has the entire world scenery installed, which is pretty unlikely. Nevertheless, I think these are acceptable numbers for a 3 character string. The user can easily perform a more specific search on receiving a large number of results. I will continue looking at this, though if anyone else would like to jump in with suggestions, that would be very welcome. -Stuart __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Slow startup
Hi Fred, On Sunday 01 June 2008 17:25, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Hi, > > looking for why startup is so slow, I found at least three causes that > could be addressed : > > 1. FGAIAircraft class throws hundreds of FP_Inactive exceptions where a > simple boolean return value could have made the job ( the try/catch bloc > is in the calling code ) FYI, I have already changed this in my local copy of FlightGear. Some new changes to the AI code required a more fundamental change here. Currently, AI aircraft remain active, even when parked, because this allows for much better control over the animation. As mentioned previously, I still need to clean up the code a bit more, but I hope to commit these changes shortly. Cheers, Durk - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Slow startup
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Hi, > > looking for why startup is so slow, I found at least three causes that > could be addressed : > > 1. FGAIAircraft class throws hundreds of FP_Inactive exceptions where a > simple boolean return value could have made the job ( the try/catch bloc > is in the calling code ) > 2. UpdateFunctor() / testNan in modelmgr.cxx also throws a lot of > sg_range_exception exceptions where again a simple test in the calling > function could have made the job, > 3. The scenegraph is drawn again and again while the splash screen is > visible, slowing down the initialisation phase even more. > > Exception throwing is very slow on some platform and should be reserved > to exceptional case. > > Solving 1. and 2. is easy and I have a patch ready. But 3. needs a > little bit of search for me. Any advice from the scenegraph gurus ? I > guess a osg::Switch node could prevent the scenegraph to be > updated/culled/drawn while the scenery is loading and nothing but the > splash screen is visible. Hi Fred, I believe #3 is most likely the dominant factor. I don't know if I can recall the whole history of development, but I think it started out with the introduction of the threaded tile loader to reduce pauses when new tiles needed to be loaded. Plib was not multithreaded and neither is opengl so we could fake it mostly and load all the terrain data and build the scene graph, but model loading (which can trigger texture loading which triggers opengl calls) could not be moved outside the render thread. So any models that needed to be loaded where pushed onto a queue and one (or maybe a few?) were loaded each rendered frame. At the time, FlightGear started running as soon as the local tile was loaded (so that the local terrain elevation could be determined and so that the aircraft could be properly ground trimmed.) However, this meant that you saw the remaining elements of the scene loading and popping into view and often this led to really stuttery frame rates until everything was loaded. So the solution was to keep the splash screen drawn and hide the main scene until after all these initial loads have taken place, but as you have pointed out, these are interleaved, one at a time between scene draws which are never actually shown. Also, the FDM is running during this time, even though nothing is being shown to the user (that means the plane could be falling or bouncing or rolling down the runway before the view comes up.) It might make sense to come up with a flag somewhere and just flush the load queue entirely in one shot at startup rather than hide the outside world with the splash screen? What we've grown into right now clearly is inefficient. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Turning final to LinuxTag 2008 in Berlin
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > Four packed days of linuxtag are over. Thanks to all who have been at the > booth, either as a visitor or as crew personal. > > Some of the pics at http://www.t3r.de/linuxtag/ show our amazing > hardware setup with up to four 24" widescreen displays per cockpit bringing > FlightGear in cinemascope to the people. A complete set of controls > (Joystick > and yoke, rudder, throttle) for both stations allowed some "almost real" > flying. > > Once again, we shared our booth with the nice people of linux-gamers.net. > Having all these graphics-loades screens and cool sound, our booth was > usually loaded with visitors. > > See you next year at LinuxTag 2009! Hi Torsten, Thanks for the pictures and updates. Also thanks to all the developers and sponsors that pitched in to help out with the booth! Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Turning final to LinuxTag 2008 in Berlin
Hi Four packed days of linuxtag are over. Thanks to all who have been at the booth, either as a visitor or as crew personal. Some of the pics at http://www.t3r.de/linuxtag/ show our amazing hardware setup with up to four 24" widescreen displays per cockpit bringing FlightGear in cinemascope to the people. A complete set of controls (Joystick and yoke, rudder, throttle) for both stations allowed some "almost real" flying. Once again, we shared our booth with the nice people of linux-gamers.net. Having all these graphics-loades screens and cool sound, our booth was usually loaded with visitors. See you next year at LinuxTag 2009! Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Some TV material from 3sat about Linuxtag 2008 AND Flightgear
Csaba Halász wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Holger Wirtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Here it is (german comments, 19 GB): > > Uh, you almost scared me away with that :) > Luckily it is only 19MB. > > Thanks! > uuups... yep - you are right. sorry it's a little bit to warm for my personal CPU here in Berlin (32 °C - about 90 °Fahrenheit). Time for the pool. Regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Some TV material from 3sat about Linuxtag 2008 AND Flightgear
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Holger Wirtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here it is (german comments, 19 GB): Uh, you almost scared me away with that :) Luckily it is only 19MB. Thanks! -- Csaba/Jester - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Some TV material from 3sat about Linuxtag 2008 AND Flightgear
Holger Wirtz wrote: > Hi, > > last week Flightgear was represented at Linuxtag 2008 in Berlin, > Germany. The TV station 3sat made some small trailers about Linux and > OpenSource projects. I made an mpeg2 stream which shows some projects on > this fair. At the end you can see some seconds of captain DT flying a > 777 at EDDF :-) > Great to see! Thanks a bunch! Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Some TV material from 3sat about Linuxtag 2008 AND Flightgear
Hi, last week Flightgear was represented at Linuxtag 2008 in Berlin, Germany. The TV station 3sat made some small trailers about Linux and OpenSource projects. I made an mpeg2 stream which shows some projects on this fair. At the end you can see some seconds of captain DT flying a 777 at EDDF :-) Here it is (german comments, 19 GB): http://squonk.abacab.org/3sat_Neues_20080601_Linuxtag2008.avi Regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz Phone : (+49 30) 884299-40 ## ## ## ### ## DFN-Verein Fax : (+49 30) 884299-70 ## ## ## Stresemannstr. 78E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## ## ## ### 10963 Berlin # ## ## ## GERMANY WWW : http://www.dfn.de GPG-Fingerprint: ABFA 1F51 DD8D 503C 85DC 0C51 E961 79E2 6685 9BCF - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
