Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Christian Schmitt wrote: > Hello, > > here is a short update: > Today I went to EDDF to take some photos of as many buildings and things > as possible, to be able to better create textures. Some of the results > can already be seen in SVN. However, I have one problem: There is > reconstruction going on on gate c/d and they built a new tower-like > thing there. I also read there will be more A380 parkings. I was not > able to take a detailed shot of this, so if anybody is able to provide > me with some photos of that new construction, I'd be very greateful. > Other pictures are welcome, too :-) > > Cheers, > > Chris I was lucky to find some pics of this new construction on the web. Together with a plan of EDDF i was able to more or less measure the sizes of the new Gate D and texture it. It is already in SVN. Cheers, Chris - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Heiko Schulz wrote: > Yes, have a lok into the wiki: > http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Interactive_Traffic > Thanks for this hint. As soon as I get the NEW_GUI branch of Taxidraw finally working here, I will maybe take a look there. But I'm still modelling EDDF and it is makeing good progress, as some of you might notice. Cheers, Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
--- Christian Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hone more question: Is there a way to set maximum > sizes for aircraft > that are allowed on a particular parking position? > That would solve the > current problem of a 747 parking on at Gate B on a > position not suitable > for that size. > > Chris > Yes, have a lok into the wiki: http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Interactive_Traffic Cheers HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy. www.yahoo.de/go - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
--- Christian Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hone more question: Is there a way to set maximum > sizes for aircraft > that are allowed on a particular parking position? > That would solve the > current problem of a 747 parking on at Gate B on a > position not suitable > for that size. > > Chris > Yes, have a lok into the wiki: http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Interactive_Traffic Cheers HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails jetzt einfach von unterwegs. www.yahoo.de/go - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Am Donnerstag 13 März 2008 schrieb Christian Schmitt: > Hone more question: Is there a way to set maximum sizes for aircraft > that are allowed on a particular parking position? That would solve the > current problem of a 747 parking on at Gate B on a position not suitable > for that size. The parking positions (parkings.xml) have a parameter 'radius' that determines the maximum allowed size for a parking spot. Thomas - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hone more question: Is there a way to set maximum sizes for aircraft that are allowed on a particular parking position? That would solve the current problem of a 747 parking on at Gate B on a position not suitable for that size. Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi, I just corrected the building positions once more and checked everything with Google Earth. The parking positions are ok for our current buildings. However, as I already wrote, there are some changes in reality to make room for the A380. These new gates are spread across the Terminals and I have not yet looked deeper into it. However: Positions D121, D111, D101 and D91 changed. There are only 3 positions left, in addition to a bigger reconstruction of the D building. Greetings Chris Gabor Toth wrote: > Hi, > > Loading the attached file into Google Earth will show you the parking > positions at EDDF. This way you can check if they are correct. > > Unfortunately I do not have too much time to redo the ground network, if > any > of you can do it, I'm more than pleased. :) > > My idea about the performace issue is to make it scalable by the user. I > mean a slide bar or something in the AI menu. (eg. only every second, tenth > whatever AI flight to activate) > > Regards, > Gabor > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi, Loading the attached file into Google Earth will show you the parking positions at EDDF. This way you can check if they are correct. Unfortunately I do not have too much time to redo the ground network, if any of you can do it, I'm more than pleased. :) My idea about the performace issue is to make it scalable by the user. I mean a slide bar or something in the AI menu. (eg. only every second, tenth whatever AI flight to activate) Regards, Gabor On Wednesday 12 March 2008 15:49, Heiko Schulz wrote: > --- Christian Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > Heiko Schulz wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I had a look too on the airport, and it looks > > > > great. > > > > > With AI-Traffic it looks real nice and realistic! > > > > > > But I noticed that the groundnetwork not match to > > > > the > > > > > new Scenery 1.0.0 - that could maybe the problem. > > > > > > Cheers > > > HHS > > > > Thank you. > > Yes, the ground network needs some work. Planes are > > starting on the > > grass on the right side of the runway. Are you > > working on this? > > > > Chris > > I can do if wanted- I thought that Gabor Toth (or Toth > Gabor ?) is on it. > > For the AI-Traffic I noticed that I the files I did > for LSZH also touch EDDF- a lot of flights goes to > EDDF. But I'm not sute if I really should make it > officially- on older hardware like GFX 5200 it slows > down the perfomance a lot. > > Cheers > HHS > > still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html > But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html > > > E-Mails jetzt auf Ihrem Handy. > www.yahoo.de/go > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel EDDF_parkings.kml Description: application/vnd.google-earth.kml - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
--- Christian Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Heiko Schulz wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I had a look too on the airport, and it looks > great. > > With AI-Traffic it looks real nice and realistic! > > > > But I noticed that the groundnetwork not match to > the > > new Scenery 1.0.0 - that could maybe the problem. > > > > Cheers > > HHS > > > > Thank you. > Yes, the ground network needs some work. Planes are > starting on the > grass on the right side of the runway. Are you > working on this? > > Chris > I can do if wanted- I thought that Gabor Toth (or Toth Gabor ?) is on it. For the AI-Traffic I noticed that I the files I did for LSZH also touch EDDF- a lot of flights goes to EDDF. But I'm not sute if I really should make it officially- on older hardware like GFX 5200 it slows down the perfomance a lot. Cheers HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html E-Mails jetzt auf Ihrem Handy. www.yahoo.de/go - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > I had a look too on the airport, and it looks great. > With AI-Traffic it looks real nice and realistic! > > But I noticed that the groundnetwork not match to the > new Scenery 1.0.0 - that could maybe the problem. > > Cheers > HHS > Thank you. Yes, the ground network needs some work. Planes are starting on the grass on the right side of the runway. Are you working on this? Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
--- Toth Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hi Chris, > > I've updated the scenery last night, buildings of > terminal1 add more > realistic feeling to EDDF. :) I really enjoy flying > there. > > When I was measuring parking positions, I have > always put the marker on the > yellow line, but I was unsure which part of the > aircraft (front, center, > back) should be matched. So it can happen that > aircraft are parking a bit too > close or too far to the building, but I expect no > error in the direction > perpendicular to aircraft's front/back axis. > > I'm going to export all the parking positions into > a kml file, and load them > into Google Earth, to check. I'll let you know the > result. > > Regards, > Gabor > > On Wednesday 12 March 2008 00:54, Christian Schmitt > wrote: > > Hi Gabor, > > > > > This problem can come from two sources, the > parking positions can be > > > defined wrong, or the position or scale of the > buildings can be wrong. Or > > > both. :) > > > > Now with more and more parts of the terminals > being added, I encounter > > more errors with the aircraft positions again (the > big ones like 747 > > stand partly in the building). The gate in the > middle (Gate B) has this > > problem. I don't say it's not my fault. As I put > the buildings together > > and position them in relation to their neighbours, > errors might add up. > > So I'm still working on correcting this. But to > rule out any other error > > source I just want to know how precisely you > defined the parking positions? > > > > Greetings > > Chris > > > > ___ Hi, I had a look too on the airport, and it looks great. With AI-Traffic it looks real nice and realistic! But I noticed that the groundnetwork not match to the new Scenery 1.0.0 - that could maybe the problem. Cheers HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy. www.yahoo.de/go - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi Chris, I've updated the scenery last night, buildings of terminal1 add more realistic feeling to EDDF. :) I really enjoy flying there. When I was measuring parking positions, I have always put the marker on the yellow line, but I was unsure which part of the aircraft (front, center, back) should be matched. So it can happen that aircraft are parking a bit too close or too far to the building, but I expect no error in the direction perpendicular to aircraft's front/back axis. I'm going to export all the parking positions into a kml file, and load them into Google Earth, to check. I'll let you know the result. Regards, Gabor On Wednesday 12 March 2008 00:54, Christian Schmitt wrote: > Hi Gabor, > > > This problem can come from two sources, the parking positions can be > > defined wrong, or the position or scale of the buildings can be wrong. Or > > both. :) > > Now with more and more parts of the terminals being added, I encounter > more errors with the aircraft positions again (the big ones like 747 > stand partly in the building). The gate in the middle (Gate B) has this > problem. I don't say it's not my fault. As I put the buildings together > and position them in relation to their neighbours, errors might add up. > So I'm still working on correcting this. But to rule out any other error > source I just want to know how precisely you defined the parking positions? > > Greetings > Chris > > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi Gabor, > This problem can come from two sources, the parking positions can be > defined > wrong, or the position or scale of the buildings can be wrong. Or both. :) > Now with more and more parts of the terminals being added, I encounter more errors with the aircraft positions again (the big ones like 747 stand partly in the building). The gate in the middle (Gate B) has this problem. I don't say it's not my fault. As I put the buildings together and position them in relation to their neighbours, errors might add up. So I'm still working on correcting this. But to rule out any other error source I just want to know how precisely you defined the parking positions? Greetings Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hello, here is a short update: Today I went to EDDF to take some photos of as many buildings and things as possible, to be able to better create textures. Some of the results can already be seen in SVN. However, I have one problem: There is reconstruction going on on gate c/d and they built a new tower-like thing there. I also read there will be more A380 parkings. I was not able to take a detailed shot of this, so if anybody is able to provide me with some photos of that new construction, I'd be very greateful. Other pictures are welcome, too :-) Cheers, Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi Chris, I've just updated my scenery, it looks perfect now. :) Thank you. :) Yep. Flying at EDDF is a totally new experience now. Regards, Gabor On Monday 10 March 2008 17:52, Christian Schmitt wrote: > Hi everybody. The problem is mostly solved. The update is already in > SVN. I'm still working on making the remaining gates more accurate. > > Cheers, > Chris > > Gabor Toth wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > > > Let me express my appreciate to your wodwerful work. As I fly very > > often to EDDF (in FG and IRL as well), this airport become one of my > > favourites. > > > > I have noticed only one minor issue so far with the buildings of > > Terminal 2DE and 1C. When you load AI traffic data and ground map for > > EDDF in FG you will see airplanes parking at wrong positions (behind the > > buildings of 1C, "in" the passenger bridges of 2DE.) > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi, On Monday 10 March 2008 18:59, Durk Talsma wrote: > On Monday 10 March 2008 16:34, Heiko Schulz wrote: > It looks like the Lufthansa Traffic files are in CVS, but the ground > network for EDDF isn't committed yet. If there are no objections from > Tabor's side, I'd like to commit his ground network as well. There is no objection. :-) I grant you the permission to commit any work by me. (Traffic files, ground networks, whatever..) > > Hopefully, once we start working on a new architecture, in which AI traffic > is fed from a separate application into FlightGear, using the multiplayer > system, hopefully much of that load will be offloaded from FlightGear. This > could be run either on a separate computer, or using a network connection > from the same machine... I'm also interested in this project. I can contribute on programming side (C, C++). I also have a server with spare capacities I can offer. Best regards, Gabor - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi, as long we havn't the discussed feature - where will we able to download this Traffic-files? There are some in CVS, but I sometimes heard, that people did their own - would be grat if anyone can profit from. Cheers HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html E-Mails jetzt auf Ihrem Handy. www.yahoo.de/go - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > as long we havn't the discussed feature - where will > we able to download this Traffic-files? > > There are some in CVS, but I sometimes heard, that > people did their own - would be grat if anyone can > profit from. > > Cheers > HHS > I can offer to use my SVN for this. As there is already the structure for the Data directory it would be no problem to add an Ai subdir. Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi, as long we havn't the discussed feature - where will we able to download this Traffic-files? There are some in CVS, but I sometimes heard, that people did their own - would be grat if anyone can profit from. Cheers HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy. www.yahoo.de/go - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
--- Durk Talsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hi Heiko, > > On Monday 10 March 2008 19:06, Heiko Schulz wrote: > > So it is sure, that we will change the > architecture of > > flightgear, like proposed in the "famous" pdf? > > > > > Actually, I don't think it's likely that that is > going to happen anytime soon. > I wasn't really referring to this pdf, though, but > refering to the idea of > moving the core of the AI traffic code out of > FlightGear itself, and > communicate positions of other aircraft through the > multiplayer system. We > discussed this idea a few months ago, and IIRC, > everybody seemed to respond > fairly positive to the idea. > > Cheers, > Durk > Ah, yes I remember, I folowed the discussion on IRC. Yes, would be a good thing, and it would come a lot of life in FGFS (outside KSFO! ;-)) Cheers HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html E-Mails jetzt auf Ihrem Handy. www.yahoo.de/go - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi Heiko, On Monday 10 March 2008 19:06, Heiko Schulz wrote: > So it is sure, that we will change the architecture of > flightgear, like proposed in the "famous" pdf? > > Actually, I don't think it's likely that that is going to happen anytime soon. I wasn't really referring to this pdf, though, but refering to the idea of moving the core of the AI traffic code out of FlightGear itself, and communicate positions of other aircraft through the multiplayer system. We discussed this idea a few months ago, and IIRC, everybody seemed to respond fairly positive to the idea. Cheers, Durk - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
--- Durk Talsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > Hopefully, once we start working on a new > architecture, in which AI traffic is > fed from a separate application into FlightGear, > using the multiplayer > system, hopefully much of that load will be > offloaded from FlightGear. This > could be run either on a separate computer, or using > a network connection > from the same machine... > So it is sure, that we will change the architecture of flightgear, like proposed in the "famous" pdf? still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy. www.yahoo.de/go - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
On Monday 10 March 2008 16:34, Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > it is not and with the current Scenery 1.0.0 the > ground network has to be done new for the most > airports. It looks like the Lufthansa Traffic files are in CVS, but the ground network for EDDF isn't committed yet. If there are no objections from Tabor's side, I'd like to commit his ground network as well. > > Till end of the week maybe I can do a first step for a > groundwork if wanted. I've also seen that the EHAM ground network needs to be redone due to changes in the apt.dat layout. Before doing this, I'd like to double check the finer details of the scenery generation process with Ralf and Martin.I got the impression that the EHAM layout in the current apt.dat is a much simpler version than the one we had in the 0.9.10 scenery. Before reverting the ground network, I'd like to check whether this is intentional or not. > > Or maybe, that's for fun to me, create some more > flight shedules for EDDF. But this a big work and > difficult for some users, because Interactive Traffic > needs a lot of perfomance and so the whole day-traffic > can't be done (about 82 flight movements a minute is > too much for the most pc's). Hopefully, once we start working on a new architecture, in which AI traffic is fed from a separate application into FlightGear, using the multiplayer system, hopefully much of that load will be offloaded from FlightGear. This could be run either on a separate computer, or using a network connection from the same machine... > > I wished, it would be faster to create Interactive > Traffics... > So do I :-) Cheers, Durk - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi everybody. The problem is mostly solved. The update is already in SVN. I'm still working on making the remaining gates more accurate. Cheers, Chris Gabor Toth wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Let me express my appreciate to your wodwerful work. As I fly very often to > EDDF (in FG and IRL as well), this airport become one of my favourites. > > I have noticed only one minor issue so far with the buildings of Terminal > 2DE and 1C. When you load AI traffic data and ground map for EDDF in FG you > will see airplanes parking at wrong positions (behind the buildings of > 1C, "in" the passenger bridges of 2DE.) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi, it is not and with the current Scenery 1.0.0 the ground network has to be done new for the most airports. Till end of the week maybe I can do a first step for a groundwork if wanted. Or maybe, that's for fun to me, create some more flight shedules for EDDF. But this a big work and difficult for some users, because Interactive Traffic needs a lot of perfomance and so the whole day-traffic can't be done (about 82 flight movements a minute is too much for the most pc's). I wished, it would be faster to create Interactive Traffics... Cheers HHS --- Toth Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hi Chris, > > As far as I know, it is part of the CVS. > > Cheers, > Gabor > > On Monday 10 March 2008 13:50, Christian Schmitt > wrote: > > Gabor Toth wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > > extract the attached tarball into your data > directory. You will also > > > need the appropritate AI aircraft (LH 737, LH > 747, LH A320 LH A333). They > > > are available on Durk's site: > > > > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~dtalsma/flightgear.html > > > > > > Regards, > > > Gabor > > > > WOW! Thank you. That's a completely new experience > for EDDF. Any reason > > why the EDDF AI is not yet included in the > official CVS? > > I will fix the positions ASAP. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > - > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio > 2008. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > > ___ > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio > 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Machen Sie Yahoo! zu Ihrer Startseite. Los geht's: http://de.yahoo.com/set - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi Chris, As far as I know, it is part of the CVS. Cheers, Gabor On Monday 10 March 2008 13:50, Christian Schmitt wrote: > Gabor Toth wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > > > extract the attached tarball into your data directory. You will also > > need the appropritate AI aircraft (LH 737, LH 747, LH A320 LH A333). They > > are available on Durk's site: > > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~dtalsma/flightgear.html > > > > Regards, > > Gabor > > WOW! Thank you. That's a completely new experience for EDDF. Any reason > why the EDDF AI is not yet included in the official CVS? > I will fix the positions ASAP. > > Chris > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Gabor Toth wrote: > Hi Chris, > > extract the attached tarball into your data directory. You will also need > the appropritate AI aircraft (LH 737, LH 747, LH A320 LH A333). They are > available on Durk's site: > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~dtalsma/flightgear.html > > Regards, > Gabor > WOW! Thank you. That's a completely new experience for EDDF. Any reason why the EDDF AI is not yet included in the official CVS? I will fix the positions ASAP. Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi Chris, extract the attached tarball into your data directory. You will also need the appropritate AI aircraft (LH 737, LH 747, LH A320 LH A333). They are available on Durk's site: http://www.xs4all.nl/~dtalsma/flightgear.html Regards, Gabor On Monday 10 March 2008 12:39, Christian Schmitt wrote: > Hi Gabor, > > first of all thank you for this very useful feedback. > > > I have noticed only one minor issue so far with the buildings of > > Terminal 2DE and 1C. When you load AI traffic data and ground map for > > EDDF in FG you will see airplanes parking at wrong positions (behind the > > buildings of 1C, "in" the passenger bridges of 2DE.) > > I have AI traffic activated, but how do I make any AI planes park on the > positions in your screenshots? Sorry. I'm still quite new to FG. > > > This problem can come from two sources, the parking positions can be > > defined wrong, or the position or scale of the buildings can be wrong. Or > > both. :) > > If you used Google Earth, I don't think the positions are wrong. The > dimensions of the buildings are correct as well (measured with Google > Earth as well). I think the positioning is wrong, a fact that I didn't > care about too much until now :-) > > > What is your opinion? Can you check somehow if the buildings are placed > > at the right position? Is it hard to move the buildings to east parallel > > the longer side of Terminal2? > > That would be no big deal and is overdue. Would you please tell me how > to get these planes on there parking positions for reference. > > Cheers, > Chris > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel LH.tgz Description: application/tgz - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Gabor Toth wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Let me express my appreciate to your wodwerful work. As I fly very > often to EDDF (in FG and IRL as well), this airport become one of my > favourites. > > I have noticed only one minor issue so far with the buildings of > Terminal 2DE and 1C. When you load AI traffic data and ground map for > EDDF in FG you will see airplanes parking at wrong positions (behind > the buildings of 1C, "in" the passenger bridges of 2DE.) > > This problem can come from two sources, the parking positions can be > defined wrong, or the position or scale of the buildings can be > wrong. Or both. :) > > When I was working on the ground map of EDDF I was using Google Earth > to measure the positions and directions (separately for every parking > slot), so I assume the parking positions are right. I tested EDDF building position with the ufo and mpmap (my favorite tool for testing building positions when I build airports)... and yes the buildings are located approx. 50 meters too much S-W. mpmap is really the definitive tool to test the building position, I usually check hangars and taxiways so users can follow accurately their aircraft movements on the airport. Cheers, Alexis > What I have noticed is that it looks if the buildings were displaced > to the west by about the distance between two passenger bridges. To > show this I have created some screenshots, which I have put in the > gallery on fgfs.i-net.hu. > > What is your opinion? Can you check somehow if the buildings are > placed at the right position? Is it hard to move the buildings to > east parallel the longer side of Terminal2? > > Thank you in advance, Gabor > > > On Monday 10 March 2008 11:02, Christian Schmitt wrote: > > till busch wrote: > >> hi, > >> > >> would you mind adding a .tar.gz or a zipfile for easier download? > >> > >> > >> thanks, > >> > >> -till > > Hi, > > > > as the whole thing is still in alpha or at least beta state, I want > > to wait until it is more mature. > > > > You can download it just as simple with "svn co > > http://www.ilovelinux.de/svn/fgfs-ffm/user/"; and always keep up > > with all changes. Maybe this was unclear in my first posting. The > > URL is an SVN repository. > > > > HTH Chris > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. > Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ Flightgear-devel > mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi Gabor, first of all thank you for this very useful feedback. > I have noticed only one minor issue so far with the buildings of Terminal > 2DE and 1C. When you load AI traffic data and ground map for EDDF in FG you > will see airplanes parking at wrong positions (behind the buildings of > 1C, "in" the passenger bridges of 2DE.) I have AI traffic activated, but how do I make any AI planes park on the positions in your screenshots? Sorry. I'm still quite new to FG. > This problem can come from two sources, the parking positions can be > defined > wrong, or the position or scale of the buildings can be wrong. Or both. :) If you used Google Earth, I don't think the positions are wrong. The dimensions of the buildings are correct as well (measured with Google Earth as well). I think the positioning is wrong, a fact that I didn't care about too much until now :-) > What is your opinion? Can you check somehow if the buildings are placed at > the right position? Is it hard to move the buildings to east parallel the > longer side of Terminal2? That would be no big deal and is overdue. Would you please tell me how to get these planes on there parking positions for reference. Cheers, Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi Chris, Let me express my appreciate to your wodwerful work. As I fly very often to EDDF (in FG and IRL as well), this airport become one of my favourites. I have noticed only one minor issue so far with the buildings of Terminal 2DE and 1C. When you load AI traffic data and ground map for EDDF in FG you will see airplanes parking at wrong positions (behind the buildings of 1C, "in" the passenger bridges of 2DE.) This problem can come from two sources, the parking positions can be defined wrong, or the position or scale of the buildings can be wrong. Or both. :) When I was working on the ground map of EDDF I was using Google Earth to measure the positions and directions (separately for every parking slot), so I assume the parking positions are right. What I have noticed is that it looks if the buildings were displaced to the west by about the distance between two passenger bridges. To show this I have created some screenshots, which I have put in the gallery on fgfs.i-net.hu. What is your opinion? Can you check somehow if the buildings are placed at the right position? Is it hard to move the buildings to east parallel the longer side of Terminal2? Thank you in advance, Gabor On Monday 10 March 2008 11:02, Christian Schmitt wrote: > till busch wrote: > > hi, > > > > would you mind adding a .tar.gz or a zipfile for easier download? > > > > thanks, > > > > -till > > Hi, > > as the whole thing is still in alpha or at least beta state, I want to > wait until it is more mature. > > You can download it just as simple with > "svn co http://www.ilovelinux.de/svn/fgfs-ffm/user/"; > and always keep up with all changes. Maybe this was unclear in my first > posting. The URL is an SVN repository. > > HTH > Chris > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
On Monday 10 March 2008, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Quoting till busch : > > hi christian, > > > > sorry. that was my fault -- skimming instead of reading. > > > > the scenery looks very nice to me. i think i miss a building with a > > pyramid-shaped roof: messeturm?. (though my memory may not be the best, > > since i was in frankfurt only twice). > > Do you mean this one : > http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modeledit.php?id=270 yes, exactly the one! cheers, -till - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Quoting till busch : > hi christian, > > sorry. that was my fault -- skimming instead of reading. > > the scenery looks very nice to me. i think i miss a building with a > pyramid-shaped roof: messeturm?. (though my memory may not be the best, since > i was in frankfurt only twice). Do you mean this one : http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modeledit.php?id=270 ;-) -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery - album photo http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
till busch wrote: > hi christian, > > sorry. that was my fault -- skimming instead of reading. > > the scenery looks very nice to me. i think i miss a building with a > pyramid-shaped roof: messeturm?. (though my memory may not be the best, since > i was in frankfurt only twice). > > cheers, > > -till Hi Till, yes, you are right. The current SVN branch is only a preview. We have more models which will be released when they are ready. You can expect much more to come, so update your working copy regularily! :-) I have been working on many of the Frankfurt skyscrapers and will release them as soon as I think they are worth it. However I am currently concentrating on improving the airport. Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
hi christian, sorry. that was my fault -- skimming instead of reading. the scenery looks very nice to me. i think i miss a building with a pyramid-shaped roof: messeturm?. (though my memory may not be the best, since i was in frankfurt only twice). cheers, -till On Monday 10 March 2008, Christian Schmitt wrote: > ... > You can download it just as simple with > "svn co http://www.ilovelinux.de/svn/fgfs-ffm/user/"; > and always keep up with all changes. Maybe this was unclear in my first > posting. The URL is an SVN repository. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
till busch wrote: > hi, > > would you mind adding a .tar.gz or a zipfile for easier download? > > thanks, > > -till > Hi, as the whole thing is still in alpha or at least beta state, I want to wait until it is more mature. You can download it just as simple with "svn co http://www.ilovelinux.de/svn/fgfs-ffm/user/"; and always keep up with all changes. Maybe this was unclear in my first posting. The URL is an SVN repository. HTH Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
hi, would you mind adding a .tar.gz or a zipfile for easier download? thanks, -till On Sunday 09 March 2008, Christian Schmitt wrote: > Hi guys, > > As some of you might already know, we are working on improving the > scenery of Germany. Right now we are 3 people and I want to announce the > first preview of our work. It is currently only Frankfurt and its > Airport, but you can expect more to come in the future. I would be happy > to receive some feedback. > > The SVN branch is available at: > > http://www.ilovelinux.de/svn/fgfs-ffm/user/ > > > Cheers, > Chris > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Frankfurt (EDDF) scenery SVN now available
Hi guys, As some of you might already know, we are working on improving the scenery of Germany. Right now we are 3 people and I want to announce the first preview of our work. It is currently only Frankfurt and its Airport, but you can expect more to come in the future. I would be happy to receive some feedback. The SVN branch is available at: http://www.ilovelinux.de/svn/fgfs-ffm/user/ Cheers, Chris - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
