Re: [Flightgear-devel] Me262

2006-04-26 Thread Ioan Suciu
Here is the official site of this project:http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html This incredible project is the result 
of a decade of privately-administered effort to create flight worthy 
examples of the Messerschmitt 262 fighter, and is now entering its 
final stages.  Formerly subcontracted to the Texas Airplane Factory 
and administered by Classic Fighter Industries, Inc. the WTMF 
			owner's group has now assumed watch over the final, and most 
			critical, phase of the project.  Our Seattle-based team of 
			expert designers, engineers and technicians recently completed the 
			flight test program for the first of 
  our five jets, while the second machine is rapidly approaching similar 
			tests..


Re: [Flightgear-devel] Me262

2006-04-25 Thread Julien Pierru
it even made it to airliners.net

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1036465/M/

Julien


Re: [Flightgear-devel] Me262

2006-04-25 Thread Dave Culp
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 03:11 pm, Lee Elliott wrote:
> This is the second Me262 to be built by the Me262 Project and it
> was first flown by Wolfgang Czaia on August 15th, 2005 from
> Seattle, where it was built.  These new-build Me262s are
> convertible to tandem two-seaters and the first one to be built,
> N262AZ, was configured as such.

Here's a link to a photo of this airplane before it was shipped to Germany:

 http://www.stormbirds.com/project/images/2005_4.jpg



Dave 


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Me262

2006-04-25 Thread Lee Elliott
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 20:28, Georg Vollnhals wrote:
> ng.
>
> > What the subject said is apparently correct:
> >
> >   "today the First Flight in Manching / Germany"
> >
> > I guess "today" rellay means "today" !
>
> That is very right, it is the "First Flight" of one of the
> rebuild planes "in Manching/Germany".
>
> But it is *NOT* the first flight of this American project to
> rebuild the Me262 - but somehow not really true as there are
> modern engines and some details changed due to security
> reasons.
>
> This project has an amazing story as the companies who build
> the planes changed during the development and after the maiden
> flight there was one accident due to landing gear structure
> defect only with smaller damage.
>
> The testpilot is former German military jet pilot with a lot
> of experience (Wolfgang Czerny ) and has written a nice
> book about his work with the Me262.
>
> There are several Me262 build, at least 1 for a German flight
> museum. It might this one which has been tested in Manching.
>
> Sorry details lacking as I have them all but could not find
> them on the run!
>
> May be you can find more with Google about this project.
>
> Regards
> Georg EDDW "HeliFlyer"

This is the second Me262 to be built by the Me262 Project and it 
was first flown by Wolfgang Czaia on August 15th, 2005 from 
Seattle, where it was built.  These new-build Me262s are 
convertible to tandem two-seaters and the first one to be built, 
N262AZ, was configured as such.

I've been following this story for a few years and there have 
been regular reports in some of the classic aircraft magazines.

LeeE



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Me262

2006-04-25 Thread Georg Vollnhals
ng.
>
> What the subject said is apparently correct:
>
>   "today the First Flight in Manching / Germany"
>
> I guess "today" rellay means "today" !
>
That is very right, it is the "First Flight" of one of the rebuild planes "in 
Manching/Germany".

But it is *NOT* the first flight of this American project to rebuild the Me262 
- but somehow not really true as there are modern engines and some details 
changed due to security reasons.

This project has an amazing story as the companies who build the planes 
changed during the development and after the maiden flight there was one 
accident due to landing gear structure defect only with smaller damage.

The testpilot is former German military jet pilot with a lot of experience 
(Wolfgang Czerny ) and has written a nice book about his work with the 
Me262.

There are several Me262 build, at least 1 for a German flight museum.
It might this one which has been tested in Manching.

Sorry details lacking as I have them all but could not find them on the run!

May be you can find more with Google about this project.

Regards
Georg EDDW "HeliFlyer" 


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Me262

2006-04-25 Thread Dave Culp
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 10:48 am, Steve Hosgood wrote:
> Those photos could have been taken yesterday if it wasn't for the fact
> that there - are --- no --- ME262's -- still -- flying.

There was a group of people in Ft. Worth who were building five Me-262's, full 
scale, using J-85 engines.  I think they were bought-out a couple years ago, 
and I don't know what became of their nearly completed airplanes.  Maybe this 
is one of them?


Dave


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Me262

2006-04-25 Thread Michal Fabik

> Amazing isn't it? You forget just how good Agfacolor
> was, even in the 
> 1940's. I take it the photos must have been color
> corrected or something 
> because there's no scratches or fading or anything.
> 
> Those photos could have been taken yesterday if it
> wasn't for the fact 
> that there - are --- no --- ME262's -- still --
> flying.

Are you sure about that -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me-262 (section 5),
besides there's no swastikas on it as far as I could see.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Me262

2006-04-25 Thread Martin Spott
Steve Hosgood wrote:

> Those photos could have been taken yesterday if it wasn't for the fact 
> that there - are --- no --- ME262's -- still -- flying.

What the subject said is apparently correct:

  "today the First Flight in Manching / Germany"

I guess "today" rellay means "today" !

The person who sent me these images is an old veteran of the BO105
development (now working as "special confiuguration manager" for the
NH90, the guy whom to contact if you want a Gatling attached to your
NH90 ) and apparentlyy he still maintained his connections to his
old workplace. I don't think that he sent these pictures as a joke,

Cheers,
Martin.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Me262

2006-04-25 Thread Steve Hosgood

Martin Spott wrote:


I just recieved these photographs from a collague at Eurocopter.
Subject of his EMail was: "today the First Flight in Manching / Germany"

 http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Me_20262-1.jpg
 http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Me_20262-2.jpg
 http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Me_20262-3.jpg
 http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Me_20262-4.jpg

Enjoy,
Martin.
 

Amazing isn't it? You forget just how good Agfacolor was, even in the 
1940's. I take it the photos must have been color corrected or something 
because there's no scratches or fading or anything.


Those photos could have been taken yesterday if it wasn't for the fact 
that there - are --- no --- ME262's -- still -- flying.


D'Oh!
Steve


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