Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2?

2003-01-01 Thread Owen Smith
I second and third Josh's and Melissa's ideas about a second box for/of the fluxlist. 
I am also happy to help out in any way needed along with contributing. It seems to me 
that there are two aspects that would be nice to work into this project: 1. a
collection of scores since there have been several nice ones posted to the list, so 
this could be a compilation of those already posted as well as new ones; 2. More along 
the lines of Melissa's idea of a box of multiples or the like (that is what
you were thinking wasn't it Melissa?) 

I have more ideas, but let's see what others think. . . .

Owen




FLUXLIST: H.N.Y

2003-01-01 Thread Melissa McCarthy

Thinking about the day, the year ahead, the year behind -- it's been pretty durn good! Happy New Year to all you FluxlistFolk, and here's to some projects and scripts and ideas and good art!


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Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2?

2003-01-01 Thread Melissa McCarthy

I second the thought of a Second Fluxlist Box the first one was great, and I'm getting into doing multiples. So I'd participate, but can't offer to do more.
Anyone else?
 



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FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2?

2003-01-01 Thread Josh Ronsen
Friends,

Is it not time to start thinking of a second FluxList Box? I treasure the first one 
and I love showing it to visitors.

While recently thinking of the Fluxus for Dummies book that will never get finished, I 
thought that a FluxList box is a project I could tend to completion. Who is in it with 
me?

Should we have the same parameters as last time? I have not began to look for boxes.

I would prefer that the theme of the box be kept free (i.e. open to any 
interpretation), but I would like to suggest two titles:

a) Box #2: FluxList for Dummies
b) FluxList Box for Peace

However, everything is open for debate.

-Josh Ronsen
in Austin, Texas






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FLUXLIST: spirit of fluxus

2003-01-01 Thread armadill0
www.slonet.org/~tsulaiti/fluxus.html

Please note:

fluxus definition

Handwritten note by GM.

Squeak, squeak.

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Re: FLUXLIST: make that THREE and FOUR

2003-01-01 Thread armadill0
On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:14:10 -0700, "Carol Starr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> thank you allen for having the courage to through the bull  out of
> the
> barn.

  The only bullSHIT in the barn is you.
  Nor is allen "courageous".
  If he were, he'd not be censoring the list.
  And certainly not (us) but others who have been involved in FLUXUS
  rather before him, if we are not mistaken.

  Shu, but we cannot imagine it is comfortable for
  those who attempt to make careers out of currently fashionable
  corpse of FLUXUS.

  Lest it's forgotten, the major figuras of FLUXUS were involved in 
  it in the 60s, 70s.

  Typical academic "feeding" after founder's death, as well
  as attempts to rewrite history, after all of the originals
  start dying out.

  It would be so comfortable if all figuras pre-1980s
  when FLUXUS happened are removed n'est pas?

  This is not courage.

  This is cheap egotistical + standard academic shark
  politics.

  FAR REMOVED from ART.

  
> now lets all have a very creative and happy 2003.

  You are not capable of creativity, dear.
  Self-important drivel? Yes.

  None of the stuff on this list touches GM, Nam Jun Paik,
  Flynt, Cage, Beuys, La Monte Young, Karpow (sp?)--truly +
  genuinely intelligent, good + exceptional
  individuals.

  It's a shame to see academicism destroy yet another
  "corpse" after the acting figures are dead.

> xxx

  Hyenas.
  
  PS. We are not speaking for nor involved with Eric Andersen.
  The above is recived + transmitted via other manner.

> allen bukoff wrote:
> 
> > Open the windows, let some stale air out, let some fresh air in.
> >
> > I swear I don't know what has gotten into me...abusing power like this.
> >
> > Maybe 2003 is a time to renew Fluxlist.
> >
> >    Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:04:12 -0800
> >    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >    Subject: Majordomo results: remove eric anderson & st auby tamas
> >
> >   xx remove FLUXLIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Succeeded.
> >  
> >   xx remove FLUXLIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Succeeded.
> >  
> 
 

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Re: FLUXLIST: make that THREE and FOUR

2003-01-01 Thread Carol Starr
thank you allen for having the courage to through the bull  out of the
barn. now lets all have a very creative and happy 2003.

cheers, carol  :)
xxx

allen bukoff wrote:

> Open the windows, let some stale air out, let some fresh air in.
>
> I swear I don't know what has gotten into me...abusing power like this.
>
> Maybe 2003 is a time to renew Fluxlist.
>
>    Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:04:12 -0800
>    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    Subject: Majordomo results: remove eric anderson & st auby tamas
>
>   xx remove FLUXLIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Succeeded.
>  
>   xx remove FLUXLIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Succeeded.
>  




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2003-01-01 Thread armadill0
O. Excuse us--but we must have been mistaken.
This is not a FLUXUS list.
It is a pacifier for a few ignorant maniacs
who cannot control themselves.

New air? Yes, we are always for "new air".
But new air means overcoming old, murderous ape
impulses and programmatic knee-jerks.

And that requires real (art)work.
Not passive-aggressive dictatorial idiocy.


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[no subject]

2003-01-01 Thread armadill0
From: allen bukoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: welcome

welcome to fluxlist

what is your purpose in joining?  

.Our intent is obvious to those who can see.

what do you hope to get out of fluxlist
subscription?

.Hope does not function in order to "get things out of."

allen bukoff
one of severall fluxlist list administrators/owners

.owner = dictatorial ape

is this FLUXLIST or a list to act as pacifiers for the egos of a few
marginal
figures?

Tell us allen, dear, how does it work?

Several idiots project their own negativity + egos onto us,
and we must either swallow crap and play along with their egos,
or are censored?

FLUXLIST is a simpleton gathering, or an art list?

It does not matter how many times you "unsubscribe" us.

You're attempting scapegoat murder in order to pacify the murderous
impulses
of a few simpletons. We are quite sure that this is not "mutual support"
but idiocy.




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FLUXLIST: make that THREE and FOUR

2003-01-01 Thread allen bukoff
Open the windows, let some stale air out, let some fresh air in.

I swear I don't know what has gotten into me...abusing power like this.

Maybe 2003 is a time to renew Fluxlist.

  Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:04:12 -0800
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Majordomo results: remove eric anderson & st auby tamas

 xx remove FLUXLIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Succeeded.

 xx remove FLUXLIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Succeeded.
 



Re: FLUXLIST: make that TWO (twice)

2003-01-01 Thread allen bukoff

  Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 15:23:32 -0800
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Majordomo results: remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 xx remove FLUXLIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Succeeded.
 



FLUXLIST: Disgrace

2003-01-01 Thread Eric Andersen
It ia time this buckoff gives up his ownership platitudes and steps down
as listowner.
He is genuine antiflux.



> >From: allen bukoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: FLUXLIST: (II) a few thoughts (addendum)
> >Mime-Version: 1.0
> >X-Loop-Detect: 1
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> >Precedence: bulk
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >X-URL: http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST
> >
> > >HAS ANYONE EVER BEEN KICKED OFF/BANNED FROM FLUXLIST?  Yes.  One
person.
> >
> >Make that two.





FLUXLIST: make that ONE

2003-01-01 Thread 27+
ciao,

is this a list about FLUXUS or aboout "pacifying" crybabies
  carol.meryl.etc. and justified "censorship" + herd mentality?

`, .   `   `k a r e i'? ' D42





Re: FLUXLIST: Re: painful art

2003-01-01 Thread 27+

On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Bertrand Clavez wrote:

>
> >   Escaping work : that's a nice "reason" to make "art" isn't it?
> >   Well then. How about everybody start making art only.
> I've heard about something called Fluxus which is said to have been trying
> to consider working "normally" as an artform (but what can "working
> normally" be meaning?...)

  Certainly. And the "idea" is not new.
  Without disrespect for Fluxus, it has been implemented,
  spoken about, etc. by many others before.
  But we respect FLUXUS for maintaining the notion
  (or attempting to) (which is not evidenced by this list).






Re: FLUXLIST: Re: painful art

2003-01-01 Thread Bertrand Clavez

>   Escaping work : that's a nice "reason" to make "art" isn't it?
>   Well then. How about everybody start making art only.
I've heard about something called Fluxus which is said to have been trying
to consider working "normally" as an artform (but what can "working
normally" be meaning?...)





Re: FLUXLIST: greetings

2003-01-01 Thread Carol Starr

I want to wish every one of you a very Happy New Year.  Peace and
blessings
on you all.

carol
xxx




FLUXLIST: (II) a few thoughts (addendum)

2003-01-01 Thread allen bukoff
>HAS ANYONE EVER BEEN KICKED OFF/BANNED FROM FLUXLIST?  Yes.  One person.

Make that two.


Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 08:57:55 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Majordomo results: remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 xx removed FLUXLIST "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Succeeded.

Happy New Year.




Re: FLUXLIST: all FLUXLIST-digests

2003-01-01 Thread { brad brace }


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Re: FLUXLIST: (I) a few thoughts about moderation, ownership & the originsof FLUXLIST

2003-01-01 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, John Blower wrote:

> >One always concurs with justified violence : the trait of the herd.
> >kk
>
>
> [Yawn...]

  Boredom is a self-inflicted knee-jerk.
  What was written was precise + accurate.
  No amount of "yawning" or other passive-aggressive knee-jerking
  would alter its value-idity.

  Tak.

  Nor would ita lter that you're avoiding responsibility for your own
  behavior.

  The very "first" to scream about "offenders".


  Add yourself to the list.






Re: FLUXLIST: (I) a few thoughts about moderation, ownership & the originsof FLUXLIST

2003-01-01 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, meryl wrote:

> Wasn't there a prize presenter on the old "Let's Make a Deal" game show
> called Carol Meryl?  Or maybe it was Carol Maryl, but is was certainly
> something like that.
>
> Coincidence or what?

  No, babycheeks. Avoid attempting to "sidestep"
  + "slight" what was writtena bout you with "clever" jokes.

  The above is simply meaningless evasiveness.

  Abrogation of responsibility for one's own behavior.






Re: FLUXLIST: (I) a few thoughts about moderation, ownership & the originsof FLUXLIST

2003-01-01 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, meryl wrote:

> Ahh, yer mother wears army boots.

  No babycheeks. We are not the wishful projections inside your brain.

  Ultra-idiotic "clever" but meaningless posturing.
  What was written about you was precis + accurate.

  And we would "suggest" that you don't insult your own mother,
  because that is exactly what you're doing.





Re: FLUXLIST: GOOD WORK

2003-01-01 Thread -IID42 Kandinskij @27+
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Crispin Webb wrote:

> NEGATIVITY may be the only thing that will get our
> attention. BITE someone and they are sure to react.

  Too bad the above is a meaningless "cliche".
  However the "languij" obsessed-ape fancies any
  nonsense that floats out of its mouth and spreads
  around 'wise".

  Introduction of "right" "languij+diets" might destroy
  entire populations safer than Auschwitz, naturralich.





FLUXLIST: Happy New Year

2003-01-01 Thread Roger STEVENS



A Happy and Peaceful 2003 to you all
 
XXX
Roger