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A nice little tool is the Screamer Radio www.screamer-radio.com Free application to listen to and record internet radio/audio streams. /Björn - Original Message - From: Kamen Nedev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 6:52 AM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: edition Ah, that would be the ultimate utopia - no physical media anywhere, everyone just emitting their own sounds and pieces, everywhere in the world! And then, tools - in a Net crowded with streams and sounds, we could devise tools to navigate the audio streams, sonnar-like. Then, by the time the aliens arrive, we wouldn't even notice - we'd all be busy blogging, tagging, and sonnar-combing the web... (No, this is not a joke, this is serious - and I'd love to be there to see/hear it) Kamen On 02/05/2006, at 6:29, Kathy Forer wrote: On May 1, 2006, at 10:11 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: Apart from those, you can really get personal using something like Nicecast: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/ With them (and probably others that are PC friendly), anyone can narrowcast from their desktop. If I want to hear ForeRadio, then you send out your narrowcast address and anyone can listen to what you're listening to or sending out. It's how I did the rodcast with the Fluxus/Dada sounds. Democratic radio for all! Rod, I like my radio station name, thank you! 9didit didtt dit got to got those LPs onto digital one day... Kathy ForeRadio to follow, follow follow Kamen Nedev c/Pelayo Nº38, 5º Izda. 28004 Madrid España (+34) 649 77 80 37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://emitmedia.blogspot.com http://emit-es.blogspot.com http://emit.omweb.com
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On 2006 Apr 30, at 1:34 PM, Kamen Nedev wrote: I remember a fascinating moment in Ninotchka in which Greta Garbo (in her role as a Soviet envoy to the West) tells her just-seduced Western counterpart who's about to turn on the radio: No, honey! Let's play music just for ourselves! and pulls out a record. Peculiar moment: from the commons to the private. There's something to say about music for private moments. While others could come up with their ideas of what was just for ourselves it was often too difficult for me to analyze and produce something. The ladies seemed to be able to come up with something that was always to their taste - thankfully so. R~~ --- Now playing: The Fall - Repetition RANDOM RODIO: (often) rodcasting at: http://rodcast.dyndns.org:8000/listen.m3u you won't like all of it
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On 2006 Apr 30, at 9:03 AM, Ann Klefstad wrote: Very interesting, yes! It presumes a kind of purposeful inquiring search that I mostly seem not to have. Radio survives, I think, because we like being ambushed by small bits of diverse things to hear. I have boxed sets too and seldom listen to them because somehow I want to hear X occurs to me much less than I want to hear something. Surprise me. More and more I feel that to surrender my own responsibility to choose this or that is what I want. I want the gift of others' choice. Is this some disease of the will, or is it more common than I think? Yup, Ann. I agree! If only the radio ambush was really so diverse tho... I think the boxed set dilemma could be partially solved by taking advantage of our new glorious (I think, anyway) technology of the desktop audio player (iTunes, etc.) and/or portable audio player (iPod, etc). In my front room, I have a 400 disc changer that I haven't used in at least 3 years. It used to be great for dumping the various boxed sets onto, but now they get emptied into boxes the size of a pack o' cigs. Definitely NOT a disease of the will - it's a surrender to the variety of sound and ideas that surround you. You can't help but learn from this. I think the want to hear something attitude sometimes extends to just the sound or, maybe the audio aura that something creates. If I decide to put on something from a 72 disc set of Oum Koulthoum, it's not because I'm listening to a story being told over the span of these discs, but, rather, I'm becoming engulfed in the sound of her great Arabic singing and I think that the meaning takes care of itself - your brain recognizes the intense feelings of desire, jealousy, etc... If we really don't have a central repository of all recorded music readily available to us, then I've long wished for everyone to have their own personal radio station - which is possible now. Even if you only have a dial-up connection of Crispin Webb quality, you can still broadcast - well, actually narrowcast - right from your desktop and other's can tune in if they share your taste in music...'cause there's always people who have things that both the listener AND the 'caster don't have and can share. Whether it's corporate rock or ambient field recordings, it's always out there coming IN. R~~ --- Now playing: Brian Eno - Passing Over http://stasick.org
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On May 1, 2006, at 7:24 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: If we really don't have a central repository of all recorded music readily available to us, then I've long wished for everyone to have their own personal radio station - which is possible now. Even if you only have a dial-up connection of Crispin Webb quality, you can still broadcast - well, actually narrowcast - right from your desktop and other's can tune in if they share your taste in music...'cause there's always people who have things that both the listener AND the 'caster don't have and can share. Whether it's corporate rock or ambient field recordings, it's always out there coming IN The concept isn't quite as personal as yours, -- it's a commercial service customizing a feed to your taste, not an individually produced station, -- and some are lacking in variety and depth, but there are a few pretty darn good custom radio stations out there now. Some even allow you to share your profile with others. http://www.gnoosic.com/ http://www.pandora.com http://music.yahoo.com/launchcast/station.asp http://www.last.fm/ http://www.soundflavor.com/ http://epitonic.com/ http://di.fm/
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On 2006 May 01, at 8:48 PM, Kathy Forer wrote: The concept isn't quite as personal as yours, -- it's a commercial service customizing a feed to your taste, not an individually produced station, -- and some are lacking in variety and depth, but there are a few pretty darn good custom radio stations out there now. Some even allow you to share your profile with others. http://www.gnoosic.com/ http://www.pandora.com http://music.yahoo.com/launchcast/station.asp http://www.last.fm/ http://www.soundflavor.com/ http://epitonic.com/ http://di.fm/ Yup, some of these are great. There's also odeo.com which is a real goody too! They *would* be more personalized if they didn't have these government restrictions (usually having to do with how many songs by one artist that can be played back to you in a row for instance). I've been with Last FM for about 14 months and there's a great exchange of ideas there. Apart from those, you can really get personal using something like Nicecast: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/ With them (and probably others that are PC friendly), anyone can narrowcast from their desktop. If I want to hear ForeRadio, then you send out your narrowcast address and anyone can listen to what you're listening to or sending out. It's how I did the rodcast with the Fluxus/Dada sounds. Democratic radio for all! R~~ --- Now playing: David Bowie - Beauty And The Beast
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Be yourself the neighbourhood broadcaster: http://www.broadcastyourpodcast.com/ /Björn being ambushed by small bits of diverse things to hear. I have boxed sets too and seldom listen to them because somehow I want to hear X occurs to me much less than I want to hear something. Surprise me. More and more I feel that to surrender my own responsibility to choose this or that is what I want. I want the gift of others' choice.
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On May 1, 2006, at 10:11 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: Apart from those, you can really get personal using something like Nicecast: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/ With them (and probably others that are PC friendly), anyone can narrowcast from their desktop. If I want to hear ForeRadio, then you send out your narrowcast address and anyone can listen to what you're listening to or sending out. It's how I did the rodcast with the Fluxus/Dada sounds. Democratic radio for all! Rod, I like my radio station name, thank you! 9didit didtt dit got to got those LPs onto digital one day... Kathy ForeRadio to follow, follow follow
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Ah, that would be the ultimate utopia - no physical media anywhere, everyone just emitting their own sounds and pieces, everywhere in the world! And then, tools - in a Net crowded with streams and sounds, we could devise tools to navigate the audio streams, sonnar-like. Then, by the time the aliens arrive, we wouldn't even notice - we'd all be busy blogging, tagging, and sonnar-combing the web... (No, this is not a joke, this is serious - and I'd love to be there to see/hear it) Kamen On 02/05/2006, at 6:29, Kathy Forer wrote: On May 1, 2006, at 10:11 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: Apart from those, you can really get personal using something like Nicecast: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/ With them (and probably others that are PC friendly), anyone can narrowcast from their desktop. If I want to hear ForeRadio, then you send out your narrowcast address and anyone can listen to what you're listening to or sending out. It's how I did the rodcast with the Fluxus/Dada sounds. Democratic radio for all! Rod, I like my radio station name, thank you! 9didit didtt dit got to got those LPs onto digital one day... Kathy ForeRadio to follow, follow follow Kamen Nedev c/Pelayo Nº38, 5º Izda. 28004 Madrid España (+34) 649 77 80 37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://emitmedia.blogspot.com http://emit-es.blogspot.com http://emit.omweb.com
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Interesting post thanks On 2006 Apr 28, at 4:08 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Hmmm, you have a point here. CDs suck. Period. The thing is, I'm not into CDs, I'm into the idea of publication, edition, or whatever you might call it. I don't care if it's a CD or a USB stick or a vinyl record, as long as I get this idea of an edition. In any case, for most of us, ephemeral netcasting and netlabels (or, as in your case, even our own resources) seem to be the most accessible path. well, you know...you go along with the formats in order to conduct the business of music. As they change, so do the needs of distribution channels. BUT when it comes to personal access, I've been increasingly interested in anything that has a deep time-bottom and doesn't have to be compiled in a linear manner. I'm surrounded by box/Bach sets that take the form of gargantuan proportions: 182 CDs of Bach...50 CDs of Merzbow...50 CDs of Klaus Schulze, etc. and just last week I got all squishy and excited when this explicated anthem from Prinzendorf that is the 51 disc Orgien Mysterien Theater (Orgies and Mysteries Theater) of Hermann Nitsch (of Viennese Aktionist fame) shows up with thick books/boots and poster. So I have to ask: why not just send me a small hard drive? The books/scores have a nicer feel than little slip covers around discs, but the sound could've been just as easily sent on a keychain harddrive. So, I think of a single Terrabyte for my work. The idea of making it one long work that uses 40 years of pieces dropped inside at various points. One of the things that I've learned and've appreciated during my studies with Stockhausen over these past few years is this idea of one large work (his Licht - 29 hours long) as a ground by which various smaller solo or group ensemble pieces can be extracted for performance. In my case, it's somewhat the reverse where individual pieces are interlaced into a whole that constantly/consistently grows. Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? R --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Are You Are Missing Winner
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Very interesting, yes! It presumes a kind of purposeful inquiring search that I mostly seem not to have. Radio survives, I think, because we like being ambushed by small bits of diverse things to hear. I have boxed sets too and seldom listen to them because somehow I want to hear X occurs to me much less than I want to hear something. Surprise me. More and more I feel that to surrender my own responsibility to choose this or that is what I want. I want the gift of others' choice. Is this some disease of the will, or is it more common than I think? AK On 4/30/06 4:45 AM, Roger Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting post thanks On 2006 Apr 28, at 4:08 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Hmmm, you have a point here. CDs suck. Period. The thing is, I'm not into CDs, I'm into the idea of publication, edition, or whatever you might call it. I don't care if it's a CD or a USB stick or a vinyl record, as long as I get this idea of an edition. In any case, for most of us, ephemeral netcasting and netlabels (or, as in your case, even our own resources) seem to be the most accessible path. well, you know...you go along with the formats in order to conduct the business of music. As they change, so do the needs of distribution channels. BUT when it comes to personal access, I've been increasingly interested in anything that has a deep time-bottom and doesn't have to be compiled in a linear manner. I'm surrounded by box/Bach sets that take the form of gargantuan proportions: 182 CDs of Bach...50 CDs of Merzbow...50 CDs of Klaus Schulze, etc. and just last week I got all squishy and excited when this explicated anthem from Prinzendorf that is the 51 disc Orgien Mysterien Theater (Orgies and Mysteries Theater) of Hermann Nitsch (of Viennese Aktionist fame) shows up with thick books/boots and poster. So I have to ask: why not just send me a small hard drive? The books/scores have a nicer feel than little slip covers around discs, but the sound could've been just as easily sent on a keychain harddrive. So, I think of a single Terrabyte for my work. The idea of making it one long work that uses 40 years of pieces dropped inside at various points. One of the things that I've learned and've appreciated during my studies with Stockhausen over these past few years is this idea of one large work (his Licht - 29 hours long) as a ground by which various smaller solo or group ensemble pieces can be extracted for performance. In my case, it's somewhat the reverse where individual pieces are interlaced into a whole that constantly/consistently grows. Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? R --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Are You Are Missing Winner
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Disease of the will - or the willing of dis-ease? Either way it afflicts me too Ann. Allan Are -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Klefstad Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:04 AM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: edition Very interesting, yes! It presumes a kind of purposeful inquiring search that I mostly seem not to have. Radio survives, I think, because we like being ambushed by small bits of diverse things to hear. I have boxed sets too and seldom listen to them because somehow I want to hear X occurs to me much less than I want to hear something. Surprise me. More and more I feel that to surrender my own responsibility to choose this or that is what I want. I want the gift of others' choice. Is this some disease of the will, or is it more common than I think? AK On 4/30/06 4:45 AM, Roger Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting post thanks On 2006 Apr 28, at 4:08 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Hmmm, you have a point here. CDs suck. Period. The thing is, I'm not into CDs, I'm into the idea of publication, edition, or whatever you might call it. I don't care if it's a CD or a USB stick or a vinyl record, as long as I get this idea of an edition. In any case, for most of us, ephemeral netcasting and netlabels (or, as in your case, even our own resources) seem to be the most accessible path. well, you know...you go along with the formats in order to conduct the business of music. As they change, so do the needs of distribution channels. BUT when it comes to personal access, I've been increasingly interested in anything that has a deep time-bottom and doesn't have to be compiled in a linear manner. I'm surrounded by box/Bach sets that take the form of gargantuan proportions: 182 CDs of Bach...50 CDs of Merzbow...50 CDs of Klaus Schulze, etc. and just last week I got all squishy and excited when this explicated anthem from Prinzendorf that is the 51 disc Orgien Mysterien Theater (Orgies and Mysteries Theater) of Hermann Nitsch (of Viennese Aktionist fame) shows up with thick books/boots and poster. So I have to ask: why not just send me a small hard drive? The books/scores have a nicer feel than little slip covers around discs, but the sound could've been just as easily sent on a keychain harddrive. So, I think of a single Terrabyte for my work. The idea of making it one long work that uses 40 years of pieces dropped inside at various points. One of the things that I've learned and've appreciated during my studies with Stockhausen over these past few years is this idea of one large work (his Licht - 29 hours long) as a ground by which various smaller solo or group ensemble pieces can be extracted for performance. In my case, it's somewhat the reverse where individual pieces are interlaced into a whole that constantly/consistently grows. Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? R --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Are You Are Missing Winner
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I remember a fascinating moment in Ninotchka in which Greta Garbo (in her role as a Soviet envoy to the West) tells her just-seduced Western counterpart who's about to turn on the radio: No, honey! Let's play music just for ourselves! and pulls out a record. Peculiar moment: from the commons to the private. But there is a point to it being somehow out there: sound, music, anything. Btw, the film is cool: can't remember dates or directors, but it is a curious mix between Metropolis and a Marx Bros. comedy. Highly recommendable. K. On 30/04/2006, at 20:09, Allan Revich wrote: Disease of the will - or the willing of dis-ease? Either way it afflicts me too Ann. Allan Are -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Klefstad Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:04 AM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: edition Very interesting, yes! It presumes a kind of purposeful inquiring search that I mostly seem not to have. Radio survives, I think, because we like being ambushed by small bits of diverse things to hear. I have boxed sets too and seldom listen to them because somehow I want to hear X occurs to me much less than I want to hear something. Surprise me. More and more I feel that to surrender my own responsibility to choose this or that is what I want. I want the gift of others' choice. Is this some disease of the will, or is it more common than I think? AK On 4/30/06 4:45 AM, Roger Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting post thanks On 2006 Apr 28, at 4:08 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Hmmm, you have a point here. CDs suck. Period. The thing is, I'm not into CDs, I'm into the idea of publication, edition, or whatever you might call it. I don't care if it's a CD or a USB stick or a vinyl record, as long as I get this idea of an edition. In any case, for most of us, ephemeral netcasting and netlabels (or, as in your case, even our own resources) seem to be the most accessible path. well, you know...you go along with the formats in order to conduct the business of music. As they change, so do the needs of distribution channels. BUT when it comes to personal access, I've been increasingly interested in anything that has a deep time-bottom and doesn't have to be compiled in a linear manner. I'm surrounded by box/Bach sets that take the form of gargantuan proportions: 182 CDs of Bach...50 CDs of Merzbow...50 CDs of Klaus Schulze, etc. and just last week I got all squishy and excited when this explicated anthem from Prinzendorf that is the 51 disc Orgien Mysterien Theater (Orgies and Mysteries Theater) of Hermann Nitsch (of Viennese Aktionist fame) shows up with thick books/boots and poster. So I have to ask: why not just send me a small hard drive? The books/scores have a nicer feel than little slip covers around discs, but the sound could've been just as easily sent on a keychain harddrive. So, I think of a single Terrabyte for my work. The idea of making it one long work that uses 40 years of pieces dropped inside at various points. One of the things that I've learned and've appreciated during my studies with Stockhausen over these past few years is this idea of one large work (his Licht - 29 hours long) as a ground by which various smaller solo or group ensemble pieces can be extracted for performance. In my case, it's somewhat the reverse where individual pieces are interlaced into a whole that constantly/consistently grows. Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? R --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Are You Are Missing Winner Kamen Nedev c/Pelayo Nº38, 5º Izda. 28004 Madrid España (+34) 649 77 80 37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://emitmedia.blogspot.com http://emit-es.blogspot.com http://emit.omweb.com
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On 2006 Apr 28, at 11:03 PM, Kathy Forer wrote: Ahh, then you need to go to molecular, protein or holographic memory. How about 10 GB per cubic centimeter in a sugar cube? http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~nd/surprise_97/journal/vol1/ary/ Thanks for this. I've been watching the holographic storage for a while, but didn't know about the Protein one - WOW! Sounds like you could use one of Bowie's 'Man Who Fell To Earth' metal spheres. Oh, boy. That brings up early memories! Kinda like a lighted platform that would read a golfball sized sphere? I just wish the whole of recorded music was easily available somewhere. The Biggest Disk Extreme is nice, nuh? Three impressive things: speed, it's small footprint, and, of course, it's storage size. I have to say tho that when you have a smaller HD, you learn to transfer stuff to discs sooner (because you'll soon lose room)...but, of course, with something huge, it's easier to dump a bunch of extra unnecessary things onto it - without discipline - which just becomes another crap buildup area. rod --- Now playing: David Bowie - Teenage Wildlife http://stasick.org
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On 2006 Apr 29, at 1:53 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: So maybe, in this sense, an appropriate way to prepare a Fluxbox nowadays would be to turn it into a Fluxdrive... Yup, I'm in for it. Yeah, a Sony Fluxstick. rod --- Now playing: The Fall - New Puritan RANDOM RODIO: (often) rodcasting at: http://rodcast.dyndns.org:8000/listen.m3u you won't like all of it
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On 2006 Apr 29, at 2:18 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Well, the costs are the costs. Once upon a time, we had these things called public libraries, which were really cool for people who couldn't, you know, buy 20-30 books or records a week. But we kind of forgot about these places. I mean, even our university libraries aren't what they used to be anymore. Yes, of course: COSTS - that's always the bugaboo... ...but I've spent less time in the library too because you no longer have to go there to hear their scratchy old LPs (which have been played to death and ill-cared for - CDs too - for decades). Say you haven't heard White Bird from It's A Beautiful Day for many years. Does you really want to call around to libraries looking for it? In any case, for works of this size (and historical value), it seems obvious that we need more resources like ubuweb. I don't mean free access, necessarily, but just the availability of material. I mean, you download the Dial-a-Poem pieces if you really want to hear them, and, well, if you're really into them, you can go out and try and find an original LP edition, or a CD box set, or whatever. Yup, and we're getting more resources for that kind of thing now. If Ubuweb has the complete Dial-A-Poet series, then I can now dump my whole collection online. There's always someone on eBay, for instance, who'll want the feel and size of the LP artwork and'll be willing to pay a pretty price for it. rod --- Now playing: David Bowie - Ashes To Ashes
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On 01/05/2006, at 0:07, Rod Stasick wrote: On 2006 Apr 29, at 2:18 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Well, the costs are the costs. Once upon a time, we had these things called public libraries, which were really cool for people who couldn't, you know, buy 20-30 books or records a week. But we kind of forgot about these places. I mean, even our university libraries aren't what they used to be anymore. Yes, of course: COSTS - that's always the bugaboo... ...but I've spent less time in the library too because you no longer have to go there to hear their scratchy old LPs (which have been played to death and ill-cared for - CDs too - for decades). Say you haven't heard White Bird from It's A Beautiful Day for many years. Does you really want to call around to libraries looking for it? Well, I was using the idea of a public library allegorically - to indicate the Net, or whatever's left of the free online commons out there. Oh, well, there's still some space between the bookshelves there... Best, Kamen Kamen Nedev c/Pelayo Nº38, 5º Izda. 28004 Madrid España (+34) 649 77 80 37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://emitmedia.blogspot.com http://emit-es.blogspot.com http://emit.omweb.com
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Well, the costs are the costs. Once upon a time, we had these things called public libraries, which were really cool for people who couldn't, you know, buy 20-30 books or records a week. But we kind of forgot about these places. I mean, even our university libraries aren't what they used to be anymore. In any case, for works of this size (and historical value), it seems obvious that we need more resources like ubuweb. I don't mean free access, necessarily, but just the availability of material. I mean, you download the Dial-a-Poem pieces if you really want to hear them, and, well, if you're really into them, you can go out and try and find an original LP edition, or a CD box set, or whatever. Best, Kamen On 29/04/2006, at 1:23, Kraig Louis Lamper wrote: i'm not gonna lie... i've almost purchased the Merzbox about 7 times and each time i manage to resist the temptation somehow. lately i've been wanting to buy An Anthology from LaMonte Young and the MELA foundation except it costs so damn much for a poor college student to purchase. Quoting Rod Stasick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, I think of a single Terrabyte for my work. The idea of making it one long work that uses 40 years of pieces dropped inside at various points. One of the things that I've learned and've appreciated during my studies with Stockhausen over these past few years is this idea of one large work (his Licht - 29 hours long) as a ground by which various smaller solo or group ensemble pieces can be extracted for performance. In my case, it's somewhat the reverse where individual pieces are interlaced into a whole that constantly/consistently grows. Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? R --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Are You Are Missing Winner Kamen Nedev c/Pelayo Nº38, 5º Izda. 28004 Madrid España (+34) 649 77 80 37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://emitmedia.blogspot.com http://emit-es.blogspot.com http://emit.omweb.com
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And I want to vanish into the ether of the eternal infinite Internet. A!!an -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Stasick Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:50 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: edition On 2006 Apr 28, at 6:41 PM, Kathy Forer wrote: On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? How about 3/4 of a terabyte? http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=16748 No, I want to move UP from 1 TB. Something like this: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10351 There's bigger too - 2.5TB but you get into large RAID arrays. R~~ --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Interim
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i'm not gonna lie... i've almost purchased the Merzbox about 7 times and each time i manage to resist the temptation somehow. lately i've been wanting to buy An Anthology from LaMonte Young and the MELA foundation except it costs so damn much for a poor college student to purchase. Quoting Rod Stasick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2006 Apr 28, at 4:08 AM, Kamen Nedev wrote: Hmmm, you have a point here. CDs suck. Period. The thing is, I'm not into CDs, I'm into the idea of publication, edition, or whatever you might call it. I don't care if it's a CD or a USB stick or a vinyl record, as long as I get this idea of an edition. In any case, for most of us, ephemeral netcasting and netlabels (or, as in your case, even our own resources) seem to be the most accessible path. well, you know...you go along with the formats in order to conduct the business of music. As they change, so do the needs of distribution channels. BUT when it comes to personal access, I've been increasingly interested in anything that has a deep time-bottom and doesn't have to be compiled in a linear manner. I'm surrounded by box/Bach sets that take the form of gargantuan proportions: 182 CDs of Bach...50 CDs of Merzbow...50 CDs of Klaus Schulze, etc. and just last week I got all squishy and excited when this explicated anthem from Prinzendorf that is the 51 disc Orgien Mysterien Theater (Orgies and Mysteries Theater) of Hermann Nitsch (of Viennese Aktionist fame) shows up with thick books/boots and poster. So I have to ask: why not just send me a small hard drive? The books/scores have a nicer feel than little slip covers around discs, but the sound could've been just as easily sent on a keychain harddrive. So, I think of a single Terrabyte for my work. The idea of making it one long work that uses 40 years of pieces dropped inside at various points. One of the things that I've learned and've appreciated during my studies with Stockhausen over these past few years is this idea of one large work (his Licht - 29 hours long) as a ground by which various smaller solo or group ensemble pieces can be extracted for performance. In my case, it's somewhat the reverse where individual pieces are interlaced into a whole that constantly/consistently grows. Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? R --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Are You Are Missing Winner
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On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? How about 3/4 of a terabyte? http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=16748
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On 2006 Apr 28, at 6:41 PM, Kathy Forer wrote: On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: Need a solo 29 minute work? OK, let me play the part of the Metzgermeister and just slice some off for you. Would you like that wrapped? How about 3/4 of a terabyte? http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=16748 No, I want to move UP from 1 TB. Something like this: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10351 There's bigger too - 2.5TB but you get into large RAID arrays. R~~ --- Now playing: Paul Wilson - The Fall Cover Artwork: Interim
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On 2006 Apr 28, at 6:23 PM, Kraig Louis Lamper wrote: i'm not gonna lie... i've almost purchased the Merzbox about 7 times and each time i manage to resist the temptation somehow. lately i've been wanting to buy An Anthology from LaMonte Young and the MELA foundation except it costs so damn much for a poor college student to purchase. Well, all of those boxsets give me all kinds of enjoyment from differing perspectives. The Nitsch, I've only heard the equivalent of about 8 CDs, but I already knew what I was in for when I got it. Hard drives anyone? R~~ --- Now playing: Mohammed “Jimmy” Mohammed - Sethed Seketelat
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On Apr 28, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Rod Stasick wrote: No, I want to move UP from 1 TB. Something like this: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10351 There's bigger too - 2.5TB but you get into large RAID arrays. Ahh, then you need to go to molecular, protein or holographic memory. How about 10 GB per cubic centimeter in a sugar cube? http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~nd/surprise_97/journal/vol1/ary/ Sounds like you could use one of Bowie's 'Man Who Fell To Earth' metal spheres. The Biggest Disk Extreme is nice, nuh?
