RE: Re-design (less ugly msg)
> >The asap rendering is mostly done, we still need to bring back many of > >the renderers. > > I suppose you mean the PDFRenderer is mostly done. Yes. I should probably expand on that topic a bit. The layout creates an area tree which consists of pages. As each page is created by the layout the page is added to the area tree. It is set up so that as a page is added to the area tree it is handled immediately. The area tree model deals with pages as they are added, it can store the page, render immediately or if the page is not ready cache for later rendering. So this is done with the area tree model. The next part is rendering. Each renderer can handle a page that is sent to it or prepare for a page that is not ready. For PDF it can output the page contents in any order so that ready pages are rendered and output to the pdf document, other pages can be setup for later rendering. The next part is the PDF document. This is setup so that it can output immediately any pdf object that is added to the document. This means that it will output images, pages and some other smaller objects immediately and then release any memory used for those objects. The other renderers haven't been updated yet but they will be able to take advantage of this. > >The "SAX" input is really about processing the layout as the fo comes > >in. This depends mainly on the FO tree and the layout system. > > What up-to-date source and doc could I read in order to understand the > purpose of making FO Tree layout ASAP ? This is where the docs are but not really up to date: http://xml.apache.org/fop/design/index.html > Cedrick Le Nevanen > Airbus France - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re-design (less ugly msg)
>The asap rendering is mostly done, we still need to bring back many of >the renderers. I suppose you mean the PDFRenderer is mostly done. >The "SAX" input is really about processing the layout as the fo comes >in. This depends mainly on the FO tree and the layout system. What up-to-date source and doc could I read in order to understand the purpose of making FO Tree layout ASAP ? Cedrick Le Nevanen Airbus France This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re-design
>The asap rendering is mostly done, we still need to bring back many of >the renderers. I suppose you mean the PDFRenderer is mostly done. >The "SAX" input is really about processing the layout as the fo comes >in. This depends mainly on the FO tree and the layout system.What up-to-date source and doc could I read in order to understand the purpose of making FO Tree layout ASAP ? Cedrick Le Nevanen Airbus France -Message d'origine- De: Keiron Liddle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: jeudi 23 janvier 2003 21:09 À: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet: Re: Re-design This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re-design
On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 06:37 PM, LENEVANEN Cedrick wrote: Confronted to volumetric problems I am very interested in the re-design branch of the FOP project, in particular the "FO SAX input" and "ASAP rendering" tasks. I wonder if I could try helping in order to make possible getting a release available this year. The asap rendering is mostly done, we still need to bring back many of the renderers. The "SAX" input is really about processing the layout as the fo comes in. This depends mainly on the FO tree and the layout system. Any help would be great. But I have not been able to catch the real design/development state of the 1.0 branch. Does anyone already work on the preceding items ? Generally yes, but we could use any help if you can contribute. There are lots of areas that need development. CÈdrick Le NÈvanen Airbus France - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re-design
Where did you find these tasks? I'm not sure what you mean with these. That's great that you want to help! Welcome! On 23.01.2003 18:37:55 LENEVANEN Cedrick wrote: > Confronted to volumetric problems I am very interested in the re-design > branch of the FOP project, in particular the "FO SAX input" and "ASAP > rendering" tasks. I wonder if I could try helping in order to make possible > getting a release available this year. > > But I have not been able to catch the real design/development state of the > 1.0 branch. Does anyone already work on the preceding items ? Jeremias Maerki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re-design
Confronted to volumetric problems I am very interested in the re-design branch of the FOP project, in particular the "FO SAX input" and "ASAP rendering" tasks. I wonder if I could try helping in order to make possible getting a release available this year. But I have not been able to catch the real design/development state of the 1.0 branch. Does anyone already work on the preceding items ? Cédrick Le Névanen Airbus France This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Current status of re-design
On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 21:30, Patrick Dean Rusk wrote: > I've been following this list for a few weeks now, but I'm still unclear as > to the current status of the re-design efforts. The FOP Web site's "status" > page hasn't been updated since June, apparently, when the estimate of being > 35% done was issued. It's difficult to estimate but it might be around 50% at the moment. > Anyone want to take a stab at saying where things stand now. Is NewFOP > able to generate any PDF files? Is there a set of formatting objects and > properties that are known to work/sort of work/not work? How about the site being updated with forrest using cvs FOP to create the PDF files. Then you can see what it does. Don't really have a list of things yet, but the idea is to have examples that are generated and you can see if it works or not. > Thank you. > > Patrick Rusk > > P.S. Last night I was up at 3:30 AM EST (US) when FOP emails started flying > back and forth. I thought, "Wow! These guys are really commiteed to all be > working this late." Until I realized most of you are from Europe or > Australia. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Current status of re-design
I've been following this list for a few weeks now, but I'm still unclear as to the current status of the re-design efforts. The FOP Web site's "status" page hasn't been updated since June, apparently, when the estimate of being 35% done was issued. Anyone want to take a stab at saying where things stand now. Is NewFOP able to generate any PDF files? Is there a set of formatting objects and properties that are known to work/sort of work/not work? Thank you. Patrick Rusk P.S. Last night I was up at 3:30 AM EST (US) when FOP emails started flying back and forth. I thought, "Wow! These guys are really commiteed to all be working this late." Until I realized most of you are from Europe or Australia. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Documentation Question
Hi Dave, On Sun, 2002-06-23 at 15:02, David Penton wrote: > I'm just trying to get familiar with fop design, with the ultimate > intention of participating. I have two questions. > > I got the source from cvs. I am looking in xml-fop/docs/design and also > xml-fop/docs/design/alt.design but it is not clear to me how I am meant > to view the various documentation files (xml, png, svg and whatnot) in > those directories. Are they meant to be examined separately, or are > they used to create some html or pdf that I should look at? The "htmldoc" build target converts these into the html documentation that you can see on the website. It is easier to view the html documentation. > Also, I cannot get at the faq servlet listed on the website. I think I > saw mention somewhere in the archives to this list that there may be a > known problem with, but I cannot for the life of me re-locate that in > the archive. How does one get at the latest faq for development? The faq is really for user issues. What do you want to know? > - Dave Penton - Keiron. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
finally i found a workaround for my 2. problem: the 2 files page.svg and float.svg were not found during the fop run because in the fop.fo file there where the following references to the images: src="url(page.svg)" and src="url(float.svg)" i simply removed "url" and the "()" so that i got : src="page.svg" src="float.cvs" and got the fop.pdf including the images! does anyone knows what the actual problem is here ? does this look like a XSLT problem or is it a FOP problem ? Bodo - Original Message - From: "Bodo Teichmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:20 AM Subject: Re: Design Tasks > Karen, Keiron, > in fact, it is the classpath sequence: i moved the fop.jar at the beginning > of the classpath in the build.bat script and now this problem is gone, but > problem no. 2 is still there > bodo > > - Original Message - > From: "Karen Lease" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:10 PM > Subject: Re: Design Tasks > > > > Hi Bodo, > > > > Maybe it's Windows or maybe it's your Xslt task. The fact that the > > parser can't find a URI for your document sounds familiar. I mad a > > change in Xslt a couple of weeks ago which I think might fix this. > > Assuming you are updating from CVS, please make sure you update the > > sources and then rebuild the buildtools.jar. > > > > using the command "build -buildfile buildtools.xml" in your xml-fop > > directory. > > > > Hope that helps you. > > -Karen Lease > > > > > > Bodo Teichmann wrote: > > > > > > Keiron, > > > now i got the pdf but still have the following problems: > > > 1. the relative uri in fop.xml do not work. i get the following error > from > > > the SAX parser: > > > >Task xslt - SAX ERROR: > > > > org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Relative URI "design/intro.xml"; > kann > > > nicht > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
Karen, Keiron, in fact, it is the classpath sequence: i moved the fop.jar at the beginning of the classpath in the build.bat script and now this problem is gone, but problem no. 2 is still there bodo - Original Message - From: "Karen Lease" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Design Tasks > Hi Bodo, > > Maybe it's Windows or maybe it's your Xslt task. The fact that the > parser can't find a URI for your document sounds familiar. I mad a > change in Xslt a couple of weeks ago which I think might fix this. > Assuming you are updating from CVS, please make sure you update the > sources and then rebuild the buildtools.jar. > > using the command "build -buildfile buildtools.xml" in your xml-fop > directory. > > Hope that helps you. > -Karen Lease > > > Bodo Teichmann wrote: > > > > Keiron, > > now i got the pdf but still have the following problems: > > 1. the relative uri in fop.xml do not work. i get the following error from > > the SAX parser: > > >Task xslt - SAX ERROR: > > > org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Relative URI "design/intro.xml"; kann > > nicht > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
One of those Internet-enabled electronic whiteboards. :-) Why don't you produce an initial concept for what you think layout managers should do, and I'll do the same for FO's. Then we can define the boundary. Regards, Arved At 12:12 AM 9/11/01 +0200, you wrote: >I guess I'm not yet 100% where the boundaries between all this stuff is. >Too bad we can't do a whiteboard session... > >-Karen > > >Arved Sandstrom wrote: >> >> At 10:56 PM 9/10/01 +0200, you wrote: >> >Hi Keiron, >> > >> >I'd like to think about Layout Managers, but I'd be more than happy to >> >bat ideas around with anyone else who's interested in that. >> > >> >Karen >> >> Well, you already know that I am interested in that, but I backed off >> because I thought you would want to take that. But I'll be happy to help. >> >> Regards, >> Arved >> >> Fairly Senior Software Type >> e-plicity (http://www.e-plicity.com) >> Wireless * B2B * J2EE * XML --- Halifax, Nova Scotia >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fairly Senior Software Type e-plicity (http://www.e-plicity.com) Wireless * B2B * J2EE * XML --- Halifax, Nova Scotia - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
I guess I'm not yet 100% where the boundaries between all this stuff is. Too bad we can't do a whiteboard session... -Karen Arved Sandstrom wrote: > > At 10:56 PM 9/10/01 +0200, you wrote: > >Hi Keiron, > > > >I'd like to think about Layout Managers, but I'd be more than happy to > >bat ideas around with anyone else who's interested in that. > > > >Karen > > Well, you already know that I am interested in that, but I backed off > because I thought you would want to take that. But I'll be happy to help. > > Regards, > Arved > > Fairly Senior Software Type > e-plicity (http://www.e-plicity.com) > Wireless * B2B * J2EE * XML --- Halifax, Nova Scotia > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
At 10:56 PM 9/10/01 +0200, you wrote: >Hi Keiron, > >I'd like to think about Layout Managers, but I'd be more than happy to >bat ideas around with anyone else who's interested in that. > >Karen Well, you already know that I am interested in that, but I backed off because I thought you would want to take that. But I'll be happy to help. Regards, Arved Fairly Senior Software Type e-plicity (http://www.e-plicity.com) Wireless * B2B * J2EE * XML --- Halifax, Nova Scotia - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
Hi Bodo, Maybe it's Windows or maybe it's your Xslt task. The fact that the parser can't find a URI for your document sounds familiar. I mad a change in Xslt a couple of weeks ago which I think might fix this. Assuming you are updating from CVS, please make sure you update the sources and then rebuild the buildtools.jar. using the command "build -buildfile buildtools.xml" in your xml-fop directory. Hope that helps you. -Karen Lease Bodo Teichmann wrote: > > Keiron, > now i got the pdf but still have the following problems: > 1. the relative uri in fop.xml do not work. i get the following error from > the SAX parser: > >Task xslt - SAX ERROR: > > org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Relative URI "design/intro.xml"; kann > nicht > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
Hi Keiron, I'd like to think about Layout Managers, but I'd be more than happy to bat ideas around with anyone else who's interested in that. Karen Keiron Liddle wrote: > > Hi All, > > These are the design tasks that I think we need to cover before (serious) > coding is done on the new layout approach. . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
It sounds like a problem with windows (dos) and classpaths. It works fine for me on unix so I don't really know what the problem is. On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:48:21 Bodo Teichmann wrote: > 'Relative URI "design/intro.xml"; can not be resoved without a > Document-URI.' > if i replace all relative URI with absolute ones starting with > file:///C:/workdir_cvs/xml-fop_cvs/docs/ then it works up to this > problem: > > 2. beside some warnings fop can not handle the external SVG's so that the > pdf has no images contained: - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
Keiron, now i got the pdf but still have the following problems: 1. the relative uri in fop.xml do not work. i get the following error from the SAX parser: >Task xslt - SAX ERROR: > org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Relative URI "design/intro.xml"; kann nicht >ohne eine Dokument-URI aufgel÷st werden. >DEBUG 10001 [fop ] (): using SAX parser org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXPar >ser >Failed to open C:\workdir_cvs\xml-fop_cvs\docs\design\fop.pdf > >BUILD FAILED unfortuately the error message is a terrible mix from german (but without german umlauts) and english. the german parts translated back to english probably mean: 'Relative URI "design/intro.xml"; can not be resoved without a Document-URI.' if i replace all relative URI with absolute ones starting with file:///C:/workdir_cvs/xml-fop_cvs/docs/ then it works up to this problem: 2. beside some warnings fop can not handle the external SVG's so that the pdf has no images contained: output from build.bat: ... [5 ] [1 ] [2 ERROR 10001 [fop ] (): ERROR LOADING EXTERNAL SVG: SAX2 driver class org .apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser not found Error while creating area : No ImageReader for this type of image (file:page.svg ) ] [3 ] [4 ERROR 10001 [fop ] (): ERROR LOADING EXTERNAL SVG: SAX2 driver class org .apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser not found Error while creating area : No ImageReader for this type of image (file:float.sv g) ] [5 ] [6 ] [7 ] [8 ] [9 ] [10 ] Parsing of document complete, stopping renderer Initial heap size: 8895Kb Current heap size: 8776Kb Total memory used: -118Kb Memory use is indicative; no GC was performed These figures should not be used comparatively Total time used: 5388ms Pages rendererd: 15 Avg render time: 359ms/page docs: BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 19 seconds Bodo - Original Message - From: "Keiron Liddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:00 PM Subject: Re: Design Tasks > On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:57:30 Bodo Teichmann wrote: > > Keiron, > > i still have a little problem with the optional.jar. > > runing build.bat gives me an: > > > > C:\workdir_cvs\xml-fop_cvs\docs\design\build.xml:49: > > java.lang.ClassNotFoundExce > > ption: org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional.TraXLiaison > > error. > > > > looking into optional.jar, downloaded from > > http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-ant/release/v1.4/bin/ > > jakarta-ant-1.4-optional.jar (and placed into fops lib directroy) > > tells me that there is no TraXLiaison class in package > > org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional. > > (i can only find a "XslpLiaison.class") > > do you use a different version of "optional.jar" or do i need to > > recompile > > ant with special options? > > > > Bodo > > I have just changed it so that you don't need this jar, it uses the xslt > task that is in the fop tools instead. > So update your cvs and it should be a bit better. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:57:30 Bodo Teichmann wrote: > Keiron, > i still have a little problem with the optional.jar. > runing build.bat gives me an: > > C:\workdir_cvs\xml-fop_cvs\docs\design\build.xml:49: > java.lang.ClassNotFoundExce > ption: org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional.TraXLiaison > error. > > looking into optional.jar, downloaded from > http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-ant/release/v1.4/bin/ > jakarta-ant-1.4-optional.jar (and placed into fops lib directroy) > tells me that there is no TraXLiaison class in package > org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional. > (i can only find a "XslpLiaison.class") > do you use a different version of "optional.jar" or do i need to > recompile > ant with special options? > > Bodo I have just changed it so that you don't need this jar, it uses the xslt task that is in the fop tools instead. So update your cvs and it should be a bit better. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
Keiron, i still have a little problem with the optional.jar. runing build.bat gives me an: C:\workdir_cvs\xml-fop_cvs\docs\design\build.xml:49: java.lang.ClassNotFoundExce ption: org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional.TraXLiaison error. looking into optional.jar, downloaded from http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-ant/release/v1.4/bin/ jakarta-ant-1.4-optional.jar (and placed into fops lib directroy) tells me that there is no TraXLiaison class in package org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional. (i can only find a "XslpLiaison.class") do you use a different version of "optional.jar" or do i need to recompile ant with special options? Bodo - Original Message - From: "Keiron Liddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Design Tasks > On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:11:46 Bodo Teichmann wrote: > > i would like to help in further development of fop. > > currently i'm still in the learning stage and because of that i would > > realy > > like to read the lastest doc from you in docs/design. > > unfortunately i don't know much about docbook and the information given > > in > > the docs/design/Readme is not sufficient for me to generate the pdfs. > > > > > The Readme: > > > To convert to pdf: > > >- place the docbook files in a directory name "docbook" > > > > which are the docbook files. and what should be the parent directory of > > "docbook" , should i create this directory in the docbook or in the fop > > package or do i need to create a new directory hirachy for the conversion > > ? > > The docbook files are the files from the distribution at > http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbook. > You need to unpack the distro and put the files into the > docs/design/docbook directory. So that the docbook "README" file (among > others) will be in "docs/design/docbook/README". > > > >- place docbookx package in a directory name "docbookx" > > > > what exactly is the docbookx package? is it the zip file found in > > http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/index.shtml > > called "docbkx412.zip" ? > > > > >the files are avaialable here: > > >http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/index.shtml > > > > what files do i need from this site ? just the .zip ? > > You just need to get the zip file "docbkx412.zip" and to then unzip it into > the docs/design/docbookx/ directory. > I don't really know what the package is, something to do with dtds. > > > do i need anything from http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbook ? > > > > > >- run the build script > > im working on w2k so i need to translate the sh script to .bat. what is > > "jboss" and how do i need to set $JBOSS_HOME ? > > This is an error, just ignore it, it will go away. > > -- > > You will also need the ant optional jar file in lib/optional.jar > > Hopefully this will become easier?? > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
Hi, Keiron I'd like to look at the FO Object category. I think your target date is a good one. Regards, Arved Quoting Keiron Liddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi All, > > These are the design tasks that I think we need to cover before (serious) > coding is done on the new layout approach. > > FO Objects: > The classes that represent the FO object heirarchy should implement one or > more interfaces that represent what the object can do in terms of the > layout and what it will add into the layout. An fo object can create an > inline or a block area or return what its children create. > > Layout Managers: > Areas that create a page or block area will need to implement a layout > manager that can take the information for the current object and add child > created areas. It is likely that there will be managers for page, block, > table and list among others. > > Area Tree: > The area tree needs to have all the appropriate block and inline areas and > extra information to handle the layout process. > Inline areas - character, leader, space, unresolved page, container etc. > Block areas - in flow block, relative and absolute position, viewport areas > > Renderers: > The renderers need to be able to handle the area tree. eg. blocks, inlines, > fills, clips, viewports, etc. > > The design includes descriptions of what it does, the layout situations it > handles and how it is used. > > Of course all of these parts will need to co-operate, so co-operation will > be needed when doing the design. > Across all of these are things like footnotes, floats and links. > > So far I have started to look at the area tree. > So for those people who think they are up to the challenge we can start to > get stuck into the lower level design/implementation of the new layout. > I think a two week period is enough to get a good view of what we need to > do here. So we can aim for 24 Sept. > > Documents will eventually be placed in docs/design to add to the current > information. > > Any questions/comments are welcome and particularly contributions. > > Keiron > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- This mail was sent through the Nova Scotia Provincial Server, with technical resources provided by Chebucto Community Net. http://nsaccess.ns.ca/mail/ http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:11:46 Bodo Teichmann wrote: > i would like to help in further development of fop. > currently i'm still in the learning stage and because of that i would > realy > like to read the lastest doc from you in docs/design. > unfortunately i don't know much about docbook and the information given > in > the docs/design/Readme is not sufficient for me to generate the pdfs. > > > The Readme: > > To convert to pdf: > >- place the docbook files in a directory name "docbook" > > which are the docbook files. and what should be the parent directory of > "docbook" , should i create this directory in the docbook or in the fop > package or do i need to create a new directory hirachy for the conversion > ? The docbook files are the files from the distribution at http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbook. You need to unpack the distro and put the files into the docs/design/docbook directory. So that the docbook "README" file (among others) will be in "docs/design/docbook/README". > >- place docbookx package in a directory name "docbookx" > > what exactly is the docbookx package? is it the zip file found in > http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/index.shtml > called "docbkx412.zip" ? > > >the files are avaialable here: > >http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/index.shtml > > what files do i need from this site ? just the .zip ? You just need to get the zip file "docbkx412.zip" and to then unzip it into the docs/design/docbookx/ directory. I don't really know what the package is, something to do with dtds. > do i need anything from http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbook ? > > >- run the build script > im working on w2k so i need to translate the sh script to .bat. what is > "jboss" and how do i need to set $JBOSS_HOME ? This is an error, just ignore it, it will go away. -- You will also need the ant optional jar file in lib/optional.jar Hopefully this will become easier?? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Design Tasks
>From: "Keiron Liddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Documents will eventually be placed in docs/design to add to the current > information. > > Any questions/comments are welcome and particularly contributions. Keiron, i would like to help in further development of fop. currently i'm still in the learning stage and because of that i would realy like to read the lastest doc from you in docs/design. unfortunately i don't know much about docbook and the information given in the docs/design/Readme is not sufficient for me to generate the pdfs. > The Readme: > To convert to pdf: >- place the docbook files in a directory name "docbook" which are the docbook files. and what should be the parent directory of "docbook" , should i create this directory in the docbook or in the fop package or do i need to create a new directory hirachy for the conversion ? >- place docbookx package in a directory name "docbookx" what exactly is the docbookx package? is it the zip file found in http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/index.shtml called "docbkx412.zip" ? >the files are avaialable here: >http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/index.shtml what files do i need from this site ? just the .zip ? do i need anything from http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbook ? >- run the build script im working on w2k so i need to translate the sh script to .bat. what is "jboss" and how do i need to set $JBOSS_HOME ? bodo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: design question to static-content
At 03:53 PM 5/28/01 +0200, Marc Jenzer wrote: > I must create with fop a documentation. On every page I have the same > header (logo, some informations...), but the title is on every page > different. My question: Can I use static-content > flow-name="xsl-region-before"? When yes, how can I set the different > title for every page? Hi, Marc My initial observations: a "title" is properly content, since it describes subsequent content. That is, you might have a title on each page, but the title describes content on each page, not the page itself, if you follow me. Under the circumstances one might ask about the nature of the documentation, and whether it is possible for you to put in explicit page-breaks before each title. It really boils down to what you are attempting to accomplish with the "titles". In the situation where you do not, at FO construction time, have knowledge of pagination and therefore cannot explicitly associate page titles with page content, you may in fact actually be talking more about fo:marker, which is another beast entirely but still may fit the bill. Regards, Arved Fairly Senior Software Type e-plicity (http://www.e-plicity.com) Wireless * B2B * J2EE * XML --- Halifax, Nova Scotia - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: design question to static-content
Has anyone had any trouble loading fop into websphere ? It seems that there are some path errors in the anttasks classes...and I cant find the org.apache.tools.ant.task class anywhere ! Daryl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
