cutting lines/marks; drawing lines without a table?

[paul]

Hello
I'm looking for suggestions on how I can place cutting lines on my pages, so
that after printing people will know where to cut the page. As you can tell I am
no typographer myself, but usually these things are somewhere along the
border/margins of the page. Of course I could restructure my document so that
there would be blocks or cells that I could assign a border to, but I would much
more prefer a way to simply draw those lines on top by specifiyng place, length
and direction for example. Is this a case for embedding svg?
I appreciate any comment, suggestion, or links to resources. Thanks!
paul


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You were still in the subscription list. Maybe the confirmation mail you
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Re: RTF Border Problem

[Jeremias Maerki]

Didn't you see my answer?
http://www.nabble.com/RTF-Border-Problem-tf3120110.html

On 06.02.2007 23:17:32 Tim Keen wrote:
>RTF Border Problem
> Hi all,
> 
> Has anyone had a chance to look at this?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Tim
> 
>  Original Message    Subject:  RTF Border Problem  
>   Date:  Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:48:39 +1000   
>   From:  Tim Keen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Reply-To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   To:  fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
>  
> 
> RTF Border Problem
>  Hi all,
> 
> I've come across what I believe is a small problem with the RTFrenderer. The 
> fo shows a bordered block (line 231), empty block,bordered block. What I 
> expect is 2 distinct bordered paragraphs witheither an empty paragraph or no 
> paragraph in between. What I get(swan.rtf) is 2 paragraphs with a border 
> around both paragraphseffectively bordering the paragraphs together.
> 
> Am I being unreasonable? Is this really a problem with me?
> 
> Please let me know.
> 
> FWIW I'm using FOP.0.93.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Tim Keen
> 



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RE: cutting lines/marks; drawing lines without a table?

[Pascal Sancho]

Hi Paul.

Check this [1] in mailing archives, that should help you.

[1] http://www.nabble.com/RE%3A-Crop-Marks-and-Bleeds-tf2176126.html#a6016798

Pascal

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> De : news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de paul
> Envoyé : mercredi 7 février 2007 09:00
> À : fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> Objet : cutting lines/marks; drawing lines without a table? 
> 
> Hello
> I'm looking for suggestions on how I can place cutting lines 
> on my pages, so that after printing people will know where to 
> cut the page. As you can tell I am no typographer myself, but 
> usually these things are somewhere along the border/margins 
> of the page. Of course I could restructure my document so 
> that there would be blocks or cells that I could assign a 
> border to, but I would much more prefer a way to simply draw 
> those lines on top by specifiyng place, length and direction 
> for example. Is this a case for embedding svg?
> I appreciate any comment, suggestion, or links to resources. Thanks!
> paul


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Re: Table header printing on next page - Seems to be room for last row

[Vincent Hennebert]

Hi Tim,

Sorry for the delay.

Tim Keen a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> Has anyone had a chance to have a look at this?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Tim
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Table header printing on next page - Seems to be room for last 
> row
> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:23:35 +1000
> From: Tim Keen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To:   fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> In the following the table header appears to be printing on the next page 
> when 
> there is ample room for the last, albeit empty, table row. (example file 
> lid1.pdf)
>  
> Is this a problem?
>  
> FWIW when I remove the last empty row (line 404 to 408) the entire "STATUS 
> HISTORY" moves to the next page. (example lid2.pdf)

You have keep-with-next="always" on the "STATUS HISTORY" block and on
each row of the table excepted the last but one. That means a page break
can only occur before the last row. You may want to remove the
keep-with-next on the table's rows, or on the contrary put one also on
the last but one row. At least you will no longer have the border alone
on the next page.

That said, that doesn't explain the strange behaviour you're having.
Interestingly enough, if you remove all of the keep-with-next on the
table's rows, you will see the entire table on the first page, with the
last border-only row. There's probably a bug and I'll keep your example
under the hand for when I try to find it.

Meanwhile, I hope the above workaround will suit you.

Vincent


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RE: cutting lines/marks; drawing lines without a table?

[Paul L]

ah... crop marks is what those things are called!!! I had specifically looked
up this term in a dictionary, but it told me the word for it was cutting
lines :( 

thank you for the help
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Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Uwe Kubosch]

Hi all!

I am using FOP 0.93 with JSE 6 to render PDFs with lots of images
containing high resolution images and I am scaling the images using only
one dimension in the external-graphics tags.

The result is a PDF of about 1.1GB.  Naturally my print-person complains
that the file is unnecessarily large and has asked me to reduce the
output resolution to 300dpi.

How do I do that?

Any help is greatly appreciated.


Uwe

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Re: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Chris Bowditch]

Uwe Kubosch wrote:

Hi all!

I am using FOP 0.93 with JSE 6 to render PDFs with lots of images
containing high resolution images and I am scaling the images using only
one dimension in the external-graphics tags.

The result is a PDF of about 1.1GB.  Naturally my print-person complains
that the file is unnecessarily large and has asked me to reduce the
output resolution to 300dpi.

How do I do that?


FOp Configuration in fop.xconf has parameters to control the source and 
target resolutions:


	

72
	

72


Chris




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SV: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Johan Johansson]

In your fop config file add this after the root:

  
  300
  
  300



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Hi all!

I am using FOP 0.93 with JSE 6 to render PDFs with lots of images
containing high resolution images and I am scaling the images using only
one dimension in the external-graphics tags.

The result is a PDF of about 1.1GB.  Naturally my print-person complains
that the file is unnecessarily large and has asked me to reduce the
output resolution to 300dpi.

How do I do that?

Any help is greatly appreciated.


Uwe

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Re: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Uwe Kubosch]

Thanks for the answers!

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 12:13 +, Chris Bowditch wrote:
> FOp Configuration in fop.xconf has parameters to control the source and 
> target resolutions:
> 
>   
>   72
>   
>   72

This entry is already there in the /conf/fop.xconf file.

Is this file used by default or do I have to specify it?


Uwe

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SV: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Johan Johansson]

fop.xconf is used by default if no config is selected by the: fop -c 


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Thanks for the answers!

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 12:13 +, Chris Bowditch wrote:
> FOp Configuration in fop.xconf has parameters to control the source and 
> target resolutions:
> 
>   
>   72
>   
>   72

This entry is already there in the /conf/fop.xconf file.

Is this file used by default or do I have to specify it?


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Re: SV: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Uwe Kubosch]

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 13:40 +0100, Uwe Kubosch wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 13:35 +0100, Johan Johansson wrote:
> > fop.xconf is used by default if no config is selected by the: fop -c 
> > 

I am using the FOP ANT task to start FOP, and it seems the default
config is NOT used, at least not in the way I did it.  When I explicitly
set the config file using the "userconfig" attribute the file is read,
and I get output from FOP that it haas new default values.

However, these new default values do not seem to affect the result.  My
file size is unaffected when I change the source-resolution and
target-resolution to 300 or 72.

Still hoping to get it right :)


Uwe

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Re: SV: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Uwe Kubosch]

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 13:35 +0100, Johan Johansson wrote:
> fop.xconf is used by default if no config is selected by the: fop -c 
> 

...and the default fop.xconf file sets a resolution of 72dpi.  Doesn't
that mean that this setting does not affect the output?  

I have tried to find references to this setting, and I found an old
discussion (2004) that stated that this setting was only used for
rasterized output like TIFF or PNG.  Do you know if this is correct?


Uwe

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Re: SV: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Jeremias Maerki]

On 07.02.2007 13:40:27 Uwe Kubosch wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 13:35 +0100, Johan Johansson wrote:
> > fop.xconf is used by default if no config is selected by the: fop -c 
> > 
> 
> ...and the default fop.xconf file sets a resolution of 72dpi.  Doesn't
> that mean that this setting does not affect the output?  

Not images that are included using external-graphic in PDF. Those images
are always embedded as is.

> I have tried to find references to this setting, and I found an old
> discussion (2004) that stated that this setting was only used for
> rasterized output like TIFF or PNG.  Do you know if this is correct?

Yes.

The work-around:
Create a fo:instream-foreign-object and include the image inside some
minimal SVG wrapper. That should get the image scaled down.


Jeremias Maerki


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Re: SV: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Uwe Kubosch]

Thank you very much for your answer!

> The work-around:
> Create a fo:instream-foreign-object and include the image inside some
> minimal SVG wrapper. That should get the image scaled down.

Could you please include a minimal, but detailed example?  An example of
tag I have now:





The image height is unknown and unspecified.  Could you write an example
of how to include this in an SVG wrapper?


Uwe

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Re: SV: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Chris Bowditch]

Johan Johansson wrote:

fop.xconf is used by default if no config is selected by the: fop -c 



this isn't true. The settings in fop.xconf are only used if the file is 
specified to FOP using -c option.


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Re: SV: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Chris Bowditch]

Uwe Kubosch wrote:


On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 13:35 +0100, Johan Johansson wrote:


fop.xconf is used by default if no config is selected by the: fop -c 




...and the default fop.xconf file sets a resolution of 72dpi.  Doesn't
that mean that this setting does not affect the output?  


I have tried to find references to this setting, and I found an old
discussion (2004) that stated that this setting was only used for
rasterized output like TIFF or PNG.  Do you know if this is correct?


That statement is true for FOP v0.20.5 but in 0.9x there are source and 
target resolution settings to give you more control over resolution of 
images and SVG.


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Re: SV: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Uwe Kubosch]

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 13:45 +, Chris Bowditch wrote:
> > I have tried to find references to this setting, and I found an old
> > discussion (2004) that stated that this setting was only used for
> > rasterized output like TIFF or PNG.  Do you know if this is correct?
> 
> That statement is true for FOP v0.20.5 but in 0.9x there are source and 
> target resolution settings to give you more control over resolution of 
> images and SVG.

Thank you for clarifying this.

Could you please explain what I have to do to get FOP to re-size my
images from their original resolution to a target resolution of 300dpi?


With kind regards,
Uwe Kubosch
Norway

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Re: SV: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Jeremias Maerki]

The attached FO file shows how to do this. Actually, Batik was so clever
I had to trick it into resampling using a dummy feColorMatrix filter
which does not modify the image. Without the filter the image doesn't
get down-sampled.

But for this to work, you need to know the image size. If you don't
you're stuck unless you're happy to dive into FOP source code and
implement an optional resampling of the images.

An alternative if you don't know the image size and therefore cannot use
the SVG work-around, you can try to find a tool that lets you
postprocess the PDF and downsample the images that way. Or you
preprocess the images to a maximum resolution before running FOP.

On 07.02.2007 14:11:08 Uwe Kubosch wrote:
> Thank you very much for your answer!
> 
> > The work-around:
> > Create a fo:instream-foreign-object and include the image inside some
> > minimal SVG wrapper. That should get the image scaled down.
> 
> Could you please include a minimal, but detailed example?  An example of
> tag I have now:
> 
> 
>  border="0mm" margin="0mm" space-before="0mm" space-after="0mm"/>
> 
> 
> The image height is unknown and unspecified.  Could you write an example
> of how to include this in an SVG wrapper?
> 
> 
> Uwe



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Re: Re: font-family="Arial Unicode MS" in rtf doesn't work

[Dominic Marcotte]

Thanks Jeremias it's work!

If we want to use font name with whitespaces like "Arial Unicode MS", we 
must put it in quotes.


If I understand well, I think we can even do this

font-family="'Arial Unicode MS', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', sans-serif"

Dominic



Subject:
Re: font-family="Arial Unicode MS" in rtf doesn't work
From:
Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:03:04 +0100
To:
fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org

To:
fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org


Try font-family="'Arial Unicode MS'"

http://www.w3.org/TR/xsl11/#font-family says:
"Font family names containing whitespace should be quoted."

On 05.02.2007 22:36:32 Dominic Marcotte wrote:
  

Hello,

Font-family "Arial Unicode MS" in FO become "Arial" in RTF.

Like if font-family can't have a space in their name.

font-size="9.5pt">⇓




If I try with font-family "ArialUnicodeMS", I get "ArialUnicodeMS" in 
RTF but I Word or WordPad doesn't konw this font. I must change it 
manualy to "Arial Unicode MS".



I use "FOP Trunk" revision 499827.

Any suggestion?

Dominic





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Re: font-family="Arial Unicode MS" in rtf doesn't work

[Andreas L Delmelle]

On Feb 7, 2007, at 20:25, Dominic Marcotte wrote:


Thanks Jeremias it's work!

If we want to use font name with whitespaces like "Arial Unicode  
MS", we must put it in quotes.


As Daniel pointed out: 'should', not 'must'.

Anyway, should work in FOP Trunk now w/o the quotes as well.



If I understand well, I think we can even do this

font-family="'Arial Unicode MS', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', sans-serif"


Yep, but AFAIK, currently FOP only uses the first one in the list  
(and does not use the others as fallbacks, yet)


Cheers,

Andreas


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Re: RTF Border Problem

[Tim Keen]

Hi Jeremias,

Sorry about nagging follow up. You are right - I didn't see your answer
- my bad. 

A while back I did what  you suggested and it didn't work with just a
space in a block. To make it work I used a zero width non joiner
character in the block  i.e.  0x200D and it renders with what is
effectively an empty paragraph.

I would've thought an empty block would be rendered in RTF as an empty
paragraph regardless of the FO attributes, so whilst the work around is
easy and the problem very minor I do think this is a problem.

Thank you very much for all your help this time and for the countless
times you've helped others.

Cheers

Tim



Jeremias Maerki wrote:

  Didn't you see my answer?
http://www.nabble.com/RTF-Border-Problem-tf3120110.html

On 06.02.2007 23:17:32 Tim Keen wrote:
  
  
   RTF Border Problem
Hi all,

Has anyone had a chance to look at this?

Cheers

Tim

 Original Message    Subject:  RTF Border Problem	 
  Date:  Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:48:39 +1000	 
  From:  Tim Keen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>	 
  Reply-To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]	 
  To:  fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org	 
 

RTF Border Problem
 Hi all,

I've come across what I believe is a small problem with the RTFrenderer. The fo shows a bordered block (line 231), empty block,bordered block. What I expect is 2 distinct bordered paragraphs witheither an empty paragraph or no paragraph in between. What I get(swan.rtf) is 2 paragraphs with a border around both paragraphseffectively bordering the paragraphs together.

Am I being unreasonable? Is this really a problem with me?

Please let me know.

FWIW I'm using FOP.0.93.

Cheers

Tim Keen


  
  


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Alignment/indenting issues with list-block inside list-item-body

[amirali786]

Hello, does anybody know why my nested list-block won't align with other
blocks in the parent list-item-body?  Instead it just aligns to the page's
left margin like it's ancestral list-block.  I know I'm not using the
body-start() or label-end() functions for indentation, but I still think I
did it right and want to know why I'm not getting the desired result doing
it this way.  Here is the fo output (nested list-block italicized):


  

  Note:


  The following list
aligns with the 'N' in "Note" (I want it to align with the 'T' in "The")
...
  

  •
  
Item
1
  


  •
  
Item
2
  

  

  

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Re: SV: Rescaling images to 300dpi

[Uwe Kubosch]

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 15:51 +0100, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> The attached FO file shows how to do this. Actually, Batik was so clever
> I had to trick it into resampling using a dummy feColorMatrix filter
> which does not modify the image. Without the filter the image doesn't
> get down-sampled.

Thanks!  I am working on getting this to work.  I think I have solved
the Xalan/Serializer endorsed jar setup, but now I get the an error:

SEVERE: svg graphic could not be built: Can't find bundle for base name
org.apache.fop.svg.resources.Messages, locale en_US
java.util.MissingResourceException: Can't find bundle for base name
org.apache.fop.svg.resources.Messages, locale en_US
at
java.util.ResourceBundle.throwMissingResourceException(ResourceBundle.java:1508)
at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundleImpl(ResourceBundle.java:1262)
at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundle(ResourceBundle.java:964)
at org.apache.batik.i18n.LocalizableSupport.getResourceBundle(Unknown
Source)
at org.apache.batik.i18n.LocalizableSupport.formatMessage(Unknown
Source)
at
org.apache.batik.ext.awt.image.spi.DefaultBrokenLinkProvider.formatMessage(Unknown
 Source)
at
org.apache.batik.bridge.SVGBrokenLinkProvider.getBrokenLinkDocument(Unknown 
Source)
at
org.apache.batik.bridge.SVGImageElementBridge.createBrokenImageNode(Unknown 
Source)
at
org.apache.batik.bridge.SVGImageElementBridge.createImageGraphicsNode(Unknown 
Source)
at
org.apache.fop.svg.PDFImageElementBridge.superCreateGraphicsNode(PDFImageElementBridge.java:108)
at
org.apache.fop.svg.PDFImageElementBridge.createImageGraphicsNode(PDFImageElementBridge.java:100)
at
org.apache.batik.bridge.SVGImageElementBridge.buildImageGraphicsNode(Unknown 
Source)
at
org.apache.batik.bridge.SVGImageElementBridge.createGraphicsNode(Unknown
Source)
at org.apache.batik.bridge.GVTBuilder.buildGraphicsNode(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.batik.bridge.GVTBuilder.buildComposite(Unknown Source)
at org.apache.batik.bridge.GVTBuilder.build(Unknown Source)
at
org.apache.fop.render.pdf.PDFSVGHandler.renderSVGDocument(PDFSVGHandler.java:186)

Any idea how to fix this?  I am planning to chheck out and build the
current trunk in case this has been fixed.

> But for this to work, you need to know the image size. If you don't
> you're stuck unless you're happy to dive into FOP source code and
> implement an optional resampling of the images.

I do know the display-size in millimeters of the image, but not the size
in pixels.  Do I need to know this?  Could you explain why I need to
know this and where in your example I have to set the image size?

> An alternative if you don't know the image size and therefore cannot use
> the SVG work-around, you can try to find a tool that lets you
> postprocess the PDF and downsample the images that way. Or you
> preprocess the images to a maximum resolution before running FOP.

Yes, maybe I'll fall back on this, but it would be nice to let FOP do it
since FOP already has all the information regarding display-size and any
changes to displayed image size would trigger a duplicate change in the
FOP generation and the preprocess-script.

Hmm, maybe I can use the FOP file as input to the image preprocess
script...that just might work!


Uwe

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